Thursday, August 4th, 2011 at 9:00 am  |  86 responses

Billy Hunter: 2011-12 NBA Season Likely Lost


by Marcel Mutoni@marcel_mutoni

Billy Hunter, the executive director of the NBA players’ union, has basically thrown in the towel when it comes to saving next season. As far as he’s concerned, there won’t be any NBA games played in 2011-2012.

Speaking to a group of lawyers and judges in Baltimore, Hunter spoke candidly about his gloomy outlook when it comes to negotiations with NBA team owners.

The Baltimore Sun reports:

“We’re $800 million apart per year,” Hunter told about 200 people during a seminar at a conference in Baltimore of the National Bar Association, an organization of predominantly African-American lawyers and judges. The union chief said NBA commissioner David Stern was being limited in negotiations by hard-line owners.

“The circumstances have changed among his constituency,” said Hunter, the executive director since 1996. “In the last six or seven years, there is a new group of owners to come in who paid a premium for their franchises, and what they’re doing is kind of holding his feet to the fire.” Because negotiators are dug in, Hunter said “something has to happen that both of us can use as leverage to save face.”

Asked by a conference attendee whether there would be a 2011-12 season, he replied: “If I had to bet on it at this moment, I would probably say no.”

Well, that’s not very encouraging.

Following every meeting between players and owners since the lockout began, a heavy fog of negativity and distrust has emerged from both sides.

This is just the latest salvo in an endlessly depressing fight that’s nowhere near a resolution. Fun!

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  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    Co-sign Jtaylor. Lets hope that we get a CBB Post Up going on come season time. It’s about time I got back into CBB. When I was young I wouldn’t watch the NBA until play-off time anyway, from December to March CBB is better than the NBA.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    You been straight Philoed! Ahh hide yo kids the Nerve is back to text some trash talk atcha!

  • SIkhWitIt

    Props to the players for sticking to their guns. The owners are nowhere near as entitled as they’d like to believe.

  • the nerve

    yo lakeshow i aint been up here in a minute. did muthaphukkas miss yer boi nerve?? freedom smell good denamuthafukka. i keep goin back 2 this klink tho man. tired. tricks aint want none of this partna.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Ya dood^^ We talk about you daily. “Wheres the Nerve?” everyone keeps asking me. I’m just like be patient guys our beloved nerve will be back!

  • http://www.specialolympics.org/ Felix

    Personally I don’t understand how anyone can side with the owners… well, I can understand because the internet is basically 85% haters… and pro basketball players make a pretty good amount of money… but to paraphrase Chris Rock, “Shaq is rich… The guy that signs Shaq’s contract? He’s wealthy.” so I don’t know why that haterism doesnt spread to the people with the real money, the owners. They mismanaged the revenue, the signed off on the bad contracts, and they imposed the lockout… how are they not at fault? Saying “Players make more money than me… why can’t they take a 15-30% paycut?” seems stupid to me. No one else in America would just cave in 15- 30% of their wages.

  • http://www.specialolympics.org/ Felix

    On a similar but NFL related note… to the GIANTS.. JUST PAY OSI ALREADY HE”S WORTH IT!

  • the nerve

    lakeshow- word its like dAT MY N!GGA? thats what it do yo. i miss yall hos 2 yo!!! i almost gat caught up 4 real w/this jail shtt man. punkz tried 2 rob me out in broad daylight man. i let em git me. i knew who it was. i aint gonna lie i thought is was bcrawford’s goons. naw jokin. but yea man a n!gga had 2 get back at duke. ya dig? got back at duke n ni99as ended up callin tha PO-lice. f dat!
    i made bail tho. HAHA!! i alwayz make bail ya follow me?

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    ^^^Naw dogg.. Consider me confuzzled.

  • the nerve

    i jus had 2 fukk a few nickas up w/ my out of control styz man. that all. i still gotta go 2 court 4 dat jizz. me gots lawyer tho. not no court lawyer. but a real law dude.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Nerve, can you tell us your life story? Sure sounds juicy!

  • mprince

    if the lockout lasts for the whole season..what happens to next year’s draft? how do they determine the order of the picks?

  • the nerve

    i dunno where 2 start man lol. sh.t man my life like a movie man. i b livin tha fast life yo. tru story. drugs gunz n heffers. i dun seen chumps git murked. i live a life where punks come at each other jus cuz. but i be floatin round ya dig? i keep it movin. i keep alot of skeezas in my camp. i got bout 2 main tricks. 3 if they all in line at the same time. i got other broads who wanna roll w/ yer boi. i aint even a pretty n!9ga either. but we all roll 2gether chasin that money. i keep money. used 2 be broke denamuthafukka. not 2 long ago either. moms and pops was gang bangers n junkies. was born in Haiti. moved 2 the ny when i was 5. moved all over the place man. moms found this old ass nicka wit money so she phukked wit him. when he moved we moved. had 2 jack him up 2 a few times. im spittin mad greasy but idgaf ya dig? im gittin MONEY. HO!!

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Thank you Nerve. Never forget your priorities, keep getting that money, HO!!

  • the nerve

    thats what it do my nigca. thats what it do. on the real. im bout 2 get on the ball court w/ these young punks outside my window. i be back later on so i can herb somebody on these boards. theres about 5 or 6 lil niccas outside. 2 of them think they nice. then there this pretty chump who got a little money. u know what happens when hos start stuntin.
    PACE BICHEZ!!!

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Later Nerve, always a pleasure.

  • http://philosopher.view@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    Elvis… has left the building.
    The Nerve is a classic.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Moose

    Well, following the NHL is looking fairly attractive right now…

  • seriousblack

    The Seed and bull22 (the number of his I.Q) are proud, clueless fools. “How dare you players take the millions you’re offered?” The players should turn down money the billionaire owners give them because they don’t deserve it? GTFOH. The simple solution to that would be to stop giving ridiculous contracts out. Who told the Grizzlies to pay Mike Conley that money? Those idiots can’t even use the excuse that they were competing with other teams because no one else would have given him that amount of money. And why should David Stern be making more than Lebron, DWade, or Blake? These three guys alone bring in more advertising dollars, ticket sales, and merchandise sales per year than David Stern’s salary total for 5 years! He’s worth more to the league than the players? That’s an absurd idea and the owners know it. They haven’t made one significant compromise from their original proposal. As Allenp said, this isn’t a strike. Billy Hunter and the players aren’t the one refusing to work. Place the blame on the greedy billionaires.

  • http://jump.com e23

    facebook.com/GameChangersInc.com

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Gilbert Arenas gave back some of his contract offer^^ haha

  • http://www.stonesthrow.com Michael NZ

    Allenp, so self righteous.

  • Feez22

    Well look on the bright side people… the nfl season is right around the corner. If you aren’t an nfl type i don’t know what 2 tell you… spend more time with friends/family or focus more on school/work this upcoming year? this lockout can actually be a productive time for us fans. or a boring time if you don’t want to be optimistic… i’ll be looking forward to the nfl season and focusing on school work.

  • http://www.slamonline.com UNFROZEN CAVEMAN LAWYER

    WHATS ALL THIS?

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/officerbarbrady what

    OK Drew League time to strike a TV deal with ESPN.

  • http://www.fiba.com Darksaber

    Damn, this thread spun outta control faster than the whole lockout mess.
    very entertaining.

  • http://www.freerice.com freerice

    Billy Hunter should take the friggin 1$ paycheck like the nfl player rep did. then they would get it done like the friggin nfl.

  • Ed

    Man, in these tough economic times, where people are losing jobs and NBA players want $800 a year more? Surely at this point in time the owners are the ones taking the risk, let’s say everything falls about, the average Joe will no longer be able to afford to pay high Basketball ticket prices, areans will then be empty, teams fold and look who loses out? Players.

    They get paid very well for what they do, the person assuming the risk should benefit from the profit.

  • the preacher

    ok just to clarify, i currently work at company w a fixed income that i feel could/should get higher. if the company i work for offer profit sharing based on performance and rating, id be a rich mofo. mike miller makes the league minimum. profit sharing would be a raise for him. think about it, gates, sponsorships, tv deals, etc split. that way there wont be no complaints and somewhere down the road some teams will have to drop out, thus having a moer healthy and competetive nba

  • Jase

    Its not the players league. They are employees. Highly paid, and hugely talented and famous….but still employees. The sooner they get that part…the sooner an agreement can be reached.

  • http://slamonline.com Ugh

    Listen up: “In the last six or seven years, there is a new group of owners to come in who paid a premium for their franchises”
    Ted Leonsis – Washington – $250 million ;
    Greg Miller – Utah – inherited ;
    Robert Sarver – Phoenix – $401 million ;
    Clay Bennett – Oklahoma City – $350 million ;
    Mikhail Prokorov – New Jersey – $200 million ;
    Joe Lacob – Golden State – $450 million ;
    Tom Gores – Detroit – $325 million ;
    Dan Gilbert – Cleveland – $375 million ;
    Michael Jordan – Charlotte – $275 million ;
    Michael Gearon Jr – Atlanta – $208 million ;
    What do these have in common? Apart from Atlanta, NJ and Washington, they’re small market teams and apart from Atlanta the teams were bought when they were losing (and badly) and most of them still are. Do you seriously think Hunter is talking bull#%it when he says these guys are pushing hard for a return on the unjustifiable amount money they spent on something they now realise is a losing investment?

  • irondan21

    The league is self destructing and needs a major reboot.

  • seriousblack

    Um Ed, I need you to come back to reality. What major corporation doesn’t have highly paid employees that are rewarded for performance? You do realize that companies like Google and Facebook have billionaire EMPLOYEES right? I’m not talkng about the CEOs either. I’m talking about employees who were rewarded for their performance. I always think it’s strange when people complain about the amount of money athletes make when they don’t even come close to setting precedents for handsomely rewarded employees. I think a lot of people look at them like a group of mostly minority, uneducated guys who somehow don’t deserve to be making money like that. You fools are saying that in a year of record highs they should take pay cuts because some owners overpaid and badly managed franchises? It just sounds stupid. The players should dig in their heels until the owners are ready to deal seriously.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    I remember reading a few years ago that the CEO of Home Depot made $25 million a year. And that was a middle of the pack salary. Right now, Kobe, who is arguably the best basketball player on the planet, and one of the ten greatest of all-time doesn’t make $25 million. But, a middling CEO makes that and it’s the median salary.
    I remember when the chairmen of the stock exchange got fired for .incompetence or something, and got like a $100 million severance package with all kinds of crazy perks. I know that billionaires who get most of their revenue from capital gains typically only pay a 15 percent tax rate, well below the average American.
    Basically, if I wanted to engage in class warfare, there are far more inviting targets than NBA players. Maybe all of the people complaining about NBA players are equally upset about all these other rich people causing problems in their regular lives, but somehow, I doubt it.
    And, Michael NZ, I’m not self righteous, I’m strident in my opinions and willing to call others out on what I see as their BS. If you’re attacking the players for the lockout, while cheerleading the owners, then that’s a clear sign of a problem in my opinion.

  • CubicleWorker

    Slam won’t post my comments, so I’ll have to keep this one brief and hope it gets put on..

    Allenp, the market drives the price for NBA players, as it does for CEO’s. When you’re the best at something you get rewarded for it. The value that the CEO brings to Home Depot is worth $25/million a year otherwise shareholders and the board of governors would not allow it. Keep in mind that includes salary, perks, stock options etc etc

    The value for Kobe is $25/million salary, if you include his perks (shoes, commercials, etc etc) it eclipses $25/million. And he’s worth it..

    The truth is that many players are over-valued. THAT ISNT THE PLAYERS FAULT.. nor is it the owners. The labour market in the NBA inflated players value. It spiralled out of control. Now everybody has to take an objective look and fix the system. That’s what this is all about. Finding a compromise so there’s a system where EVERYBODY can profit. The popularity is high right now, and it’s a major opportunity to make sure that everybody gets paid over the next 5-10 years.

  • CubicleWorker

    NOBODY wants to take a pay cut, whether you make $30,000 or $10,000,000 a year. The problem for the players is that the owners are claiming that the system is unsustainable under the current CBA. Whether that’s true or not, if the owners stick to their position the players are going to get a 100% salary cut this season.

    $2B salary drop in one year, to try to compensate for only $800M over the next 5? On the plus side at least Billy Hunter can “save face”…

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