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Tuesday, August 23rd, 2011 at 12:34 pm  |  51 responses

Polladaday: Kobe’s Future?

Today, Kobe Bryant turns 33 years of age, so we couldn’t help but wonder what’s left in the tank. How many more rings do you think he’ll aquire?

How many more Championships will Kobe Bryant win?

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  • logues

    none. they got swept by dallas this yr, and i dont see them getting by the thunder this season. maybe if they’d get howard or whatever, but i dont see the magic giving him up. lakers would have to give up half their roster to get him. plus if they got to the finals the heat would roll past them

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    I think at least 2. I see 1 more with this current set up of players. And then eventually winning another one not being “The Man” any more.

  • @logues

    The Heat? really? wither it would have been the lakers or Mavs vs heat in the finals Lebron still was gonna be absent from the 4th quarter

  • Darren

    I think one more, bu he’ll retire if he cant be the number one guy on a team after that.

  • http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Video-Don-t-tell-Kobe-Bryant-what-he-can-t-do?urn=nba-233572 nbk

    It depends on Dwight Howard or Chris Paul. As of now, ZERO. Could change to as many as 3 though.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    I like how a team that has been to the finals 3 years in a row, won in two of them and was beat by the future NBA Champions most recently and has the same squad minus P-Jax has ZERO chance of winning a title… hmm.

  • http://www.yomamajokes.com LilKDub503

    Kobe may be 33, but he’s put a lot of NBA miles on his body-15 years worth. That’s a lot for anyone. I think he has three more great seasons left (by normal standards), then 3 more average seasons before he retires.

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    3 more, and not necessarily with the Lakers…same goes for Phil Jackson.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Wayno

    Unless Bean gets another star player to help him out he’s done winning titles. Dwight or CP3 could changethat though.

  • hillbilly

    One, maybe two (if they can get Howard). To the two comedians who voted “four”…don’t bogart it. Pass it to the left. He’s 33 and his knees are basically steak tartare.

  • http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Video-Don-t-tell-Kobe-Bryant-what-he-can-t-do?urn=nba-233572 nbk

    LakeShow teams get older. They did do those things 2 years ago. Last season they got SWEPT, with the GOAT of Coaching. Now they are the same exact team with Mike Brown, and they are a year older. They have ZERO shot at winning a title.

  • http://slamonline.com Kap

    So the lakers have the same odds of winning the title as the Bobcats or Timberwolves, nbk? Thats silly to say and I think you would admit that yourself. Who knows what their team will look like when the finally does start.

  • http://www.ballislife.com/profiles/blogs/kobetop10moments nbk

    With the team as currently constructed i’d give them like a 500-1 shot, w/ those teams you named at a billion-1 – so your right, the Lakers have a better shot them those teams, but IMO they still dont really have a chance.

  • http://slamonline.com Kap

    Dallas proved that an older team can win so I still think the Lakers are one of the five favorites next year. A healthy kobe, a healthy bynum, a focused gasol, and a decent point guard and they could still come out of the West. 500-1 is insulting…

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    This is laughable to me… The Lakers have ZERO shot at a title. You gotta be kidding me. Do the Bulls have ZERO shot at a title? The Mavs? I can’t believe what i’m hearing. If the Lakers don’t have a shot who does?

  • http://slamonline.com Kap

    The demise of Kobe has been greatly exaggerated. Mark my words. He’s coming off a season where he played on a surgically repaired knee and still had one of his most efficient seasons. The knees just prevented him from closing games like he did the previous season.

  • http://www.ballislife.com/profiles/blogs/kobetop10moments nbk

    Pretty much The Heat, Bulls, Mavericks, or Thunder. If half the season gets cut by the Lockout though then I take back what I said. The Lakers would have a pretty good shot mainly because Kobe is much scarier in 50 games then he is in 82 and can conceivably if healthy carry them through a couple games each series. But its irrelevant, i fully expect the Lakers to make a trade by the deadline, or at some point before the next trade deadline whenever that is, and jumping right back into favorite status.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Gasol in his Prime. KB not in his prime and still will put up 25,5,5+ Odom, prime. 6th man of the year. Bynum entering his prime. Becoming one of the best D Anchors in the L. Brown a Defensive minded coach perfect for a team that knows P-Jax Offensive ideas. Blake, Brown, Barnes, a year better acclimated. This is just to silly for me. The Thunder, better than the Lakers…. wow, got it.

  • brandon

    i agree with LakeShow.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

  • http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Video-Don-t-tell-Kobe-Bryant-what-he-can-t-do?urn=nba-233572 nbk

    First of all Kobe 25 5 5 almost happened last season, with Phil Jackson. Mike Brown is bringing a COMPLETELY new offensive system, the triangle and all that was part of it left with Phil Jackson. So I doubt Kobe’s offensive production actually picks up in his absence. — Second, Pau may be “in his prime” but he’s been an 18-20 and 10 big his whole career, literally his whole entire career. And he’s 30 not 27, his prime is almost over. Andrew Bynum can’t stay healthy, he’s played over 55 games, once. Shannon Brown isn’t on the roster – Steve Blake and Derrick Fisher are the worst PG combination of any playoff team in the NBA. Metta World Peace over the last 3 years went from 17PPG on 40% shooting, to 11PPG on 41%, to 8PPG on 39% – he was so bad offensively last season that his normally stellar defense couldn’t make up for it. As he was a -2.0PER when contrasted with his opponent. And to make matters even worse, the Lakers were pathetically better with Ron Artest on offense then without him. That team has major major issues, which should be completely obvious after they got SWEPT. This is just like San Antonio, everyone last season talking about how San Antonio was back because they had a great regular season, ignoring the fact that the same team got swept in the playoffs the year before. If you get swept early in the playoffs, and you don’t make any changes to your personnel then your chances of winning the Ship the next season have to be somewhere around 0% (historically speaking)

  • http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Video-Don-t-tell-Kobe-Bryant-what-he-can-t-do?urn=nba-233572 nbk

    Oh and LA has no depth on their bench, none, not even a little, outside of Lamar Odom. And Matt Barnes? The Lakers are 8.6Points Per 100 Possessions worse then their opponent with Matt Barnes on the court. So please don’t bring him up ever again like he helps your team.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    With all those negative things you just mentioned, they won two titles. If Artest is a little better than putrid. If Blake plays okay, if Fisher nails clutch daggers, Barnes plays like a the good role player he can be(hit threes, play tuff D, rebound at a high rate, energy off the bench)Odom stays consistent, Gasol has balls, Kobe trusts his team mates. You say thats allot of if’s. I say thats allot of opportunities to win a chip. It’s not like the stars need to align perfectly. They won two titles in a somewhat gross fasion. They can do that again. I;m not trying to change your mind, you certainly are not changing mine. So lets see how this next season plays out.

  • http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Video-Don-t-tell-Kobe-Bryant-what-he-can-t-do?urn=nba-233572 nbk

    They won Two titles, the first with Trevor Ariza, a 30 year old Kobe Bryant, and PHIL JACKSON. The second with a 31 Year Old Kobe Bryant, Healthy Andrew Bynum, and PHIL JACKSON. — Oh and there was no Heat in the NBA and the Thunder (who took that 2nd title team to 6 games, despite no Kendrick Perkins, James Harden was almost useless, and it was Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook’s first playoff series. (this and the Lakers have gotten older and less effective, namely, Ron Artest, while Durant has gotten considerably better)) are basically the Lakers cryptonite. Perkins neutralizes Andrew Bynum (even has the same Knee issues), and Westbrook absolutely murders Derrick Fisher and the slow ass Laker front line. Stop acting like the 2011-12 Lakers are the same team that won titles, they are barely more then a shell of their former selves.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    LOL^^

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    I wonder what percentage chance you gave the Mavs of winning the chip this time last year. I’d be willing to bet ZERO.

  • logues

    Lakeshow: at this point heading into this season i dont see how think the lakers are gonna be better than the thunder. i’d take durant over kobe any day at this point in kobe’s career. westbrook is a flatout stud. lakers dont have anyone to stop either of them. ibaka is turning into a defensive force, plus hes athletic on the offensive end and and can shoot. james harden is instant offense off the bench. they play excellent defense, can run with anyone in the leauge, have the leagues best scorer, top 3 pg in the leauge, an awesome bench. the lakers have kobe and pau. they are old and their bench sucks. give it up

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Your right I give it up…

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    NOT!! I’ll take Kobe, Odom, Pau, Bynum over Durant, Westbrook, Ibaka, Perkins. Not even a question in my book. But I like and trust smart vetrans over youngins anyday. Give me an old crafty KB over a young stud Durant. Thats just me tho.

  • http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Video-Don-t-tell-Kobe-Bryant-what-he-can-t-do?urn=nba-233572 nbk

    you’d bet wrong. nbk Posted: Mar.11 at 4:36 pm
    Allen I have been saying all year that Dallas is the only team in the West with more then a 25% chance of beating the Lakers in a series. I didn’t say Dallas was gonna win or anything, but I knew they had a shot.

  • logues

    noones going to win this argument when the dude’s name is Lakeshow. so with that said, im just going to stop wasting my time

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Theres no argument to win Logues. You doubt the Lakers, I don’t. Neither of us are wrong or right till the season is coming to an end. I was wrong last year about the Lakes and I took my licking for that. I will take them again if I am wrong. nbk, so you think Phil Jackson is what held together the Lakers? Last year Phil was practically non-exsistent. He should be somewhat embarassed about his last year coching. He thought everything was given and didn’t actually coach the team. Sounds terrible to be talking about the GCOAT like that, but it’s the truth I watched every game last year he wasn’t nearly as involved and demanding as he needed to be. Brown will be a refreshment and not allot of people think that, but I think he is going to be a better coach for the Lakers next year than P-Jax would be next year if he coached the same way he did this past season.

  • Big M.D.W

    dudes in the stroller

  • http://www.ballislife.com/profiles/blogs/kobetop10moments nbk

    I feel this way for a few reasons, (1) the Lakers lost Phil Jackson, (2) The best Lakers (Bryant, Gasol, Odom) are Only getting older, (3) Mike Brown as to my knowledge will be creating the offense, (4) They have no depth, (5) they have over $90M dollars already committed to next season—not a single free agent they can add, especially with the new CBA, (6) Derek Fisher and Steve Blake are your PG’s, (7) Ron Artest is their second best wing player & their third might honestly be Devin Ebanks. – They have a bunch of issues, and the Mavericks highlighted them in the 2nd round, with the onlymperson i feel couls turn around the current roster promptly retiring.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Older yes. Out of their prime? no. P-Jax… see my above post. Their offense is being done by Pau’s coach from Spain and Brown both. (Offense won’t be potent, but common Kobe and Pau going 1 on 1 will work most the time anyway.) Defense will be better and the have the players to lock down on D. The PG’s suck, but they also have some things they bring to the table that are nice to have in a PG that the others don’t have. Ronnie won’t be worse that last year.(Triangle messed with dude lol) Barnes won’t be injured(he played really well before being injured) Bynum has a chance to be the 2nd best Center next year.(on offense and D) Odom isn’t going to drop off at all. The Mavericks highlighted how to make 80% of your 3pointers in a series. It was an onslught from the perimeter unlike the leagu has seen. Give the Mavs their due, they deserved to win. Lakers didnt play well by any means but the Mavs played out of their minds. They had the same PG troubles, and “Depth issues” when they won 2 rings.

  • http://www.ballislife.com/profiles/blogs/kobetop10moments nbk

    They may have had the same PG issues but they weren’t as pronounced, and for a variety of reasons. Kobe has (wheter you wanna admit it or not) lost a step especially on defense. Derek Fisher is getting worse and worse defwnsively, and he’s getting slower, he’s not staying just as bad as he was 2 years ago when they won a title. Ron Artest has taken considerable steps back, both offensively triangle or not if they dont use him in the post he’s not very effective, and he’s the 5th best post player on the team so thats not much of an option. defensively he’s lost a little bit (although he’s still top 5 in the league). Bynum has a chance to be the second best cemter
    In the league as much as he does to have a season ending injury so the what if game is what it is. And I know the Lakers are still a regular season power, but idk if Mike Brown and the Spanish guy have the offensove chops to win a title. Unless Kobe can pull a Hot Tub Time Machine (which is part of why i think they have a shot during a 50 game season)

  • http://slamonline.com Kap

    Bynum was hurt by the way in both championship runs. Lakers have never had a healthy Bynum except this year in the playoffs.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    “had one of his most efficient seasons”. Hysterical!!
    I’m sorry I just had to laugh at that statement. A guy shoots 45% from the field and people consider that to be “one of his most efficient seasons”?
    Talk about lowered standards for a supposed Top-5 great.

  • Yesse

    If we talk about the present situation i would say none. If Lakers make smart moves and the lockout ends soon, yes Kobe could luckily get 2 more, but will just see.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Wayno

    Lakeshow is a tad crazy if he think the Lakers as they are currently constructed have a legit title chance this year….

  • Red

    At least 2 more! Kobe!! Lakers 4 Life!!!

  • http://gmail.com z

    oh great, jtaylor got ahold of the kobe thread…here we go…I gotta start by saying that i’m a big fan of kob’s. I watched last season, and the previous several, and i gotta say, you guys are basically all arguing about nothing. Youre ALL exactly right! Much as i want to discredit nbk’s arguments, from what i saw last season, everything you’ve pointed out is exactly right. Fish&blake are probly the worst pg combo in the league (seriously derek needs to go i think). But i will say that i think nbk is overvaluing phil jax (i can’t believe i just admitted it’s possible to overvalue phil). I watched him last season very closely, and i agree 100% with lakeshow: phil checked out early on this team. He wasn’t in it all the way last year, which means he shoulda retired last summer, because he didn’t have the fire needed, honestly i think he just came back to see if kobe could will his team to a 2nd threepeat just like you-know-who. Ultimately, the lakers do have as good a chance as anyone out west (except maybe dallas and okc) but as they’re currently built…I don’t see em getting past the 2nd round

  • http://gmail.com z

    But then again if kaps right, and the fall off in kobe’s game has been overexaggerated, and kobe comes back next season in great shape, rested, and has the killer instinct (i’m talking more killer instinct than he’s ever shown), then all bets are off…Jtaylor might hate to admit it, but when kob goes off, there’s STILL no one better

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    thanks for being the voice of reason Z.

  • idrees

    keep andrew bynum, get lamarcus aldridge for pau gasol, get rodney stuckey or stephen curry or some new and fresh point guard and take derek fisher out of the starting line-up, and they’re fine.

  • derek

    I can see Kobe winning at least one more. Over the last 3 years not including this one he has gone to the Finals giving him less time to heal over the summer. Especially with the Lockout giving him a longer break to get back to as healthy as he can. He can work on his game more too with the break so he will have time to rest and to work on his game. I think he will come back next season (whenever that is) even hungrier than he was previously especially being swept and losing some games pretty bad. He wants redemption and I think people will see him using his killer instinct even more next season considering they didn’t make the Finals last year and he’s going to want nothing more than the coveted Larry O’Brian trophy in his hands.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Moose

    65 people voted four or more.

  • Niyagirlfresh

    Lol for “None” leading the votes you peeps wish it were none so you can celebrate. Now he’s getting older that’s for sure, but that doesn’t mean he can’t do it. The older he got he won his first gold medal and two more titles without Shaq as people wanted him to, and still put ona great post season during the 2009 title run, don’t count him out yet peeps!! It’s hard to repeat though.

  • rich

    if he gets that tampon off his finger ill say 1 or 2 more realisticly. he cant shoot from deep with that thing on at all, the ball rolls left and right on it and throws him off.

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    Call it a hunch, but I don’t see Kobe staying married to the Lakers with Jim Buss looking to build around Bynum. I can see both Phil Jackson (possibly front office a la Pat Riley in Miami) and Kobe eventually ending up in the Mecca with the Knicks.

  • Thijsie

    To all the people saying “Kobe has a zero percent chance to win a championship, gtfoh!” I say: This poll doesn’t reflect championship odds, it gives a prediction of the realisation of those odds. Personally I think the Lakers as currently constructed has a 10 percent chance of winning it all this year. With Kobe going on for 5 more years and every year a 1 percentagepoint drop in the chance to win a championship (agefactor) leads to a (.9*.91*.92*.93*.94=) 0.66 chance the lakers will not win anymore in Kobes career.

  • brandon

    Kobe really has that mentality to tie and or beat michael jordan. He WILL get one more ring.

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