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Sunday, August 21st, 2011 at 11:46 am  |  41 responses

Tim Hardaway Pledges Support For Gay Issues

Years after he stirred controversy by going public with his dislike of homosexuality, Tim Hardaway is pledging support for what may seem like an unlikely cause. Via KVIA: “The group opposing a recall of El Paso Mayor John Cook and two city representatives for their support of partner benefits for city employees got an endorsement Thursday from an unlikely source: former University of Texas at El Paso superstar and NBA All-Star Tim Hardaway, who once made headlines for saying he ‘hated gay people.’ The message of Thursday’s news conference, held by El Paso’s ‘No Recall Group,’ was to try to provoke a change of heart for those who oppose health benefits for gay and unmarried partners of city employees. It was clear that Hardaway has had a ‘change of heart’ of his own. When asked on a Miami radio show in 2007 what he thought of having a gay teammate, Hardaway replied: ‘Whoa, first of all, I wouldn’t want him on my team.’ After it was pointed out by the host of the show that his comments were ‘homophobic’ and ‘bigotry,’ Hardaway replied, ‘You know, I hate gay people. I let it be known.’ Hardaway’s anti-gay rant drew criticism across the country, including on late-night talk shows. However, that was four years ago. This is what Tim Hardaway was saying Thursday: ‘It’s not right to not let the gays and lesbians have equal rights here,’ said the 44-year-old, who has been working with gay rights groups in Miami and is now lending an assist to El Paso’s ‘No Recall Group,’ opposing the recall of Cook and City Reps. Susie Byrd and Steve Ortega, who voted to re-establish domestic partner benefits for gay and unmarried partners of city employees. ‘If I know El Paso, like they came together when the 1966 team won a championship and Don Haskins started those five guys,’ Hardaway said, ‘I know the city will grow and understand that gays and lesbians need equal rights.’

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  • Deuce21

    George made him see the light!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4s1iQODC5OI

  • http://slamonline.com Neitel

    are u stupid tim? im homophobic just like you were, and i ain’t changing cause you now changed…fu

  • Heals

    I’m confused (hardly unusual) – Tim Hardaway was saying Thursday: ‘It’s not right to not let the gays and lesbians have equal rights here,’ said the 44-year-old, who has been working with gay rights groups in Miami and is now lending an assist to El Paso’s ‘No Recall Group,’ opposing the recall of Cook and City Reps. Susie Byrd and Steve Ortega, who voted to re-establish domestic partner benefits for gay and unmarried partners of city employee – this passage contradicts the entire premise of the article right?

  • Rus

    This took tremendous guts and courage for Tim to do…. and anyone who has studied the Civil Rights movement in this country can see the similarities, as well as the long arc of justice. There was a sad irony to a young black man making the statements Tim did in 2007, but this was very much more than Tim just saying, “I’m sorry.” This was Tim stepping up and doing something for an important cause, although “rights for city workers in El Paso” is not exactly the national stage. Yet, that gave Tim’s move a greater feel of authenticity. And, as David Zirin likes to point out, it’s often athletes, from Ali to Jackie to Nolan Richardson, who are at the forefront of social change. All in all, this was Hardaway’s best ‘crossover move’ to date….

  • Heals

    I hear ya Neitel. As soon as homosexuals are given equal marriage rights all us heterosexuals are going to be forced in homosexual marriages. Uggghhh I can’t even figure out how I am going to maintain my heterosexual lifestyle if gay marriage is legal. Ohh and the kids, don’t get me started on the kids being corrupted. I mean it’s crazy, heterosexuals have worked over a century to get their divorce rates up over 50% and now the gays just come along and wanna get married cause they “love” each other? Disgusting, but anyway glad to see ignorance still has it’s place. Preach on Neitel…fu

  • http://philosopher.view@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    Ol’ Tim Bug looking for work…

  • http://philosopher.view@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    Heals going in…

  • http://philosopher.view@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    I wonder if Hardaway is going to spend the rest of his professional life trying to make people think that he doesn’t hate gay people.
    Reminds me of when Wade Barkley was nearly crying on camera about how he “just wants a ring”.
    Then he spends the next decade lamenting about how he doesn’t care about winning a ring.
    I guess some people have to use psychology on themselves, sometimes.

  • http://slamonline BossTerry

    The Killer Cross-Over-Back-Peddle.

  • Heals

    Ha good ol’ reading comprehension skills; I thought he had revised his stance from years ago, NOT this past Thursday. Boss there’s D for back peddle that quick…

  • brandon

    this isnt right i wish that everyone would just find the Lord

  • EJ

    Heals is so gay.

  • http://dskjfl.com Jukai

    I feel like there’s not enough asinine preaching about religious principles in this com– oh thanks Brandon! Right on queue!

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-th-Bear

    Bahahaha Heals FTW.

  • Frank Cardinalli

    God bless Tim Hardaway. His efforts will help expose the corruption
    and hatred of the Christo-facists and Republican Party, their partners in crime, who deny a downtrodden and stigmatizated minority by using a flawed theology as it pertains to human sexuality. Could there be anything so foul than to deny another human being of their instrinsic value and dignity?

  • al

    I wonder if he hates dennis rodman then? tectonically he is only a cross dresser?

  • HAMMER

    How can someone overcome his/her lifetime of homofobia and bigotry n a span of “only” 4 yrs? Im not saying that it can’t be done, but im very skeptical. I do, however, truly hope that Timmy has changed his view of gays and lesbians. And I do hope that this isn’t some kind of PR stunt for personal gain in the form of finance or, as The Philosopher said, a coveted job.

  • http://slamonline.com SpaceJam

    Cosign Brandon

  • http://slamonline.com Ugh

    @HAMMER – Prejudice comes from objectifying, rather than subjectifying, someone. Routine or strong exposure to that person’s emotions creates empathy, and from that empathy we recognise that person’s as a person. Then we understand them. That’s why having GLBT people in frequently ‘closeted spaces’ like men’s sports is important – proximity allows that empathising to happen.
    Once you start that process, which Timmy did to his credit, that empathising does happen pretty quickly. It certainly doesn’t take years.

  • HAMMER

    Good point Ugh. That may be true. The reason why im skeptical tho is, like I said, what r his intentions? What does Timmy get out of this, u know what I mean? Is he sincere? Or is this just a front? That’s what im more interested in. But nonetheless, its a huge step 4 him, in my opinion.

  • Chukaz

    you know what annoys me? religious groups trying to keep gay rights as is. if you’re one of those religious weirdos then don’t you believe that god will deal with gays once they die? the lord doesn’t need you to do his job. besides, i think separation of church and state goes both ways. the state doesn’t care about religion and religion doesn’t care about politics. its not like gays are gonna get into heaven just cuz its legal in america. homophobic can go to sleep in piece knowing that god has a couple of seven footers guarding the paint in the pearly gates keeping homosexuals out of heaven. if you’re not a religious freak then how the hell does it affect you if ppl of the same sex get married? live ur life and let others live theirs. if ur concerned about the example that would set for children then just talk to your f*ckin kids about it. who knows maybe by talking to ur kids the teenage pregnancy rate will drop and with it the number of abortions

  • http://www.slamonline.com UNFROZEN CAVEMAN LAWYER

    WHY ARE GAY GUYS ALWAYS THE FIRST ONES OUT OF THE HOTEL IN THE MORNING?

  • bike

    Tim is just covering his a)s. He does not want gays attacking him.

  • http://www.slamonline.com UNFROZEN CAVEMAN LAWYER

    CUZ THEY HAD THEIR SHTT PACKED THE NIGHT BEFORE.

  • vtrobot

    Thanks, Heals. P.S. There is no God. This life is all we got so make the best of it and treat the other human beings well. Or, act like a dumb fu(k, hate people, be “sorry” at the end of it all, and take your rightful place in “heaven.” Peace.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Wayno

    This seems like a “I have a gay friends, so it’s cool” type of move…maybe that’s just me be cynical.

  • SCD

    @Rus

    Gay Rights have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the Civil Rights struggle and I’d wish homosexuals would stop trying to usurp that for their own means. As a Black man I find it highly offensive! As for Tim, It just goes to show you that people will conform to anything when it effects their pockets, sad.

  • EJ

    How are gay rights not civil rights? I guess we should call black rights black rights then, if you want to single out groups of people.

  • http://dskjfl.com Jukai

    Why Gays deserve no rights:
    1. Being gay is not natural. Real Americans ™ always reject unnatural things like eyeglasses, polyester, and air conditioning.
    2. Gay marriage will encourage people to be gay, in the same way that hanging around tall people will make you tall.
    3. Legalizing gay marriage will open the door to all kinds of crazy behavior. People may even wish to marry their pets because a dog has legal standing and can sign a marriage contract.
    4.Straight marriage has been around a long time and hasn’t changed at all; women are still property, blacks still can’t marry whites, and divorce is still illegal.
    5. Straight marriage will be less meaningful if gay marriage were allowed; the sanctity of Britany Spears’ 55-hour just-for-fun marriage would be destroyed.
    6. Straight marriages are valid because they produce children. Gay couples, infertile couples, and old people shouldn’t be allowed to marry because our orphanages aren’t full yet, and the world needs more children.
    7. Obviously gay parents will raise gay children, since straight parents only raise straight children.
    8. Gay marriage is not supported by religion. In a theocracy like ours, the values of one religion are imposed on the entire country. That’s why we have only one religion in America.
    9. Children can never succeed without a male and a female role model at home. That’s why we as a society expressly forbid single parents to raise children.
    10. Gay marriage will change the foundation of society; we could never adapt to new social norms. Just like we haven’t adapted to cars, the service-sector economy, or longer life spans.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Jukai,

    I think your just looking at the extremist side of things. Most people that oppose gay marriage is based upon the words meaning itself. The word itself defining a bond between a man and a woman. They don’t want to change the meaning of marriage for the simple fact that thats not what marriage is. White people can’t call other white people n*ggers just because they want to also be able to call their friends the same thing others use as endearment. That obviously won’t work because that words means something else entirely. Now if gays wanted to have something like “Uniting”(or whatever word they want to use that doesn’t have another meaning already.) as their ‘marriage’ then that would work for most people opposing the use of the word marriage. Did you ever think of that side instead of just the extremist side??

    Some of you guys need to be a little more level headed and quit spewing out your mouth like you are on a high pulpit imo.

  • LP

    he prolly tryna get a coaching gig somewhere, so he has cover that PR aspect of his life before he can get a gig….bottom line.

  • Heals

    But Lakeshow you yourself admit that “marriage” is a social construction. This social construction legally entitles it’s parties to certain societal benefits. Homosexuals are just challenging the legallity of of their exclusion from those societal benefits based upon their sexual preference. It’d be one thing if the definition didn’t have social implications, but it does. Jukai isn’t being extreme, he’s simply illuminating the absurdity of a certain kind of metatlity some individuals cling to when faced with change/something different…

  • bike

    Agree w/LakeShow. Gays seem to want everything on their own terms. If they want some form of legal union then call it something else other than marriage. What they are doing is not the same thing as a man/woman relationship. You would think that they would WANT to call it something else but it always seems like they look at heterosexuals and scream they want the same. For everything.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Heals, yes it is, and thats why I am in favor of full benefits for marriages and ‘unions’. It’s absurd to not let people have benefits because they live differently than you and I. But it’s also absurd to change the definitions of words because certain groups want to be the same as the other groups. Gay marriage is very different than regualr marriage why not create a term for themsleves that is their own like straight couples have theirs(marriage). Those people that you and Juk’s are talking about are few and far between. Why we as a culture allow them to have any credence in level headed discussion is weird to me. Why bring up extremeist when they are “EXTREME.” Equal social benefits is a must for every person in america imo.

  • Heals

    Mos definitely Lake, we may differ ever so slightly in our POV’s, but the true shame is that our modest stances are drowned out by the loud minority. Yeeesssh, we’re talking China-USA politics and Gay marriage debates, this lockout has ceratinly had some unforseen consequences…

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    LOL. It’s good to have these discussions though. So maybe we will benefit from this Lock-Out in some weird way haha.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    Why do you care what they want to call it? They want to call it a marriage because a marriage is a *union* between two spouses.
    Words get added to the dictionary every year. Words become obsolete. Language evolves as humans themselves do. Why should it at all offend you that the definition of marriage, by law, be altered slightly to encompass same-sex couples? And it makes even less sense for you to begrudge a change in the DICTIONARY definition–which, by the way, already includes same-sex couples (search “marriage” on dictionary.com).
    By your logic, words should never be coined. Words should never take on new meanings, or undergo experimentation. That’s right, the gibberish Shakespeare invented should never have been added to our vernacular because YOU CAN’T CHANGE THE DEFINITION OF WORDS!

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    LakeShow at least has a fair stance and acknowledges equal social benefits. So kudos on that.
    @ bike: The only reason gay couples want what straight couples want is because, right now, one is accepted while the other is deprived of legal recognition.
    When minorities call for equal footing, it doesn’t mean they want to be white, it means they want to be treated as human beings.
    I’m pretty sure gay people realize that how they have sex is different for most straight people. I think that’s pretty obvious to anyone past middle-school age.
    Of course, if you’re religious then you believe a union between man and woman is sacred, and thus superior to same-sex couples. Which is fine. You can believe that all you want.
    Too bad the US, despite all its neo-conservative Christian Right lobbying, is still a secular nation.

  • EJ

    Why do christians think that they invented and own marriage? And if marriage is religious, then it should have no business in the government. You could still have it as a religious ritual, if it’s such a big deal.
    There are religious gays too, but I don’t see why they would want to be a part of something that discriminates against themselves, or anybody really.

  • http://SportsCipher.com Jaamal Braithwaite

    I see nothing wrong with him changing his stance and actually doing something. It’s better than making a bs apology to improve your public image.

  • http://dfklf.com Jukai

    Yeah, the gays should have something LIKE marriage but not really marriage. You know, cause ‘separate but equal’ is ALWAYS constitutional and moral.

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