Sunday, September 18th, 2011 at 11:59 am  |  121 responses

LeBron James Ranked 98, Kobe a 94 in NBA 2K12


One of the things basketball gamers look for when they rip open the packaging and throw in a new game is the rankings of the different players, because, in a sense, that number determines how good the guys can be within the gameplay. Well in NBA 2k12, according to Pasta Padre, LeBron is ranked 98, while Kobe tops out at 94: “In NBA 2K11 both Kobe Bryant and LeBron James entered as 97 overall prompting discussion with each having their own factions of supporters but it was mostly harmless since they were tied atop the ratings. With NBA 2K12 though one has gone up while the other has dropped leading to some more contention between those who feel one should be above or at least at the same level as the other. LeBron James will begin NBA 2K12 as a 98 – the highest rated player in the game – while Kobe Bryant has settled in at 94. Miami also features the 96 rated Dwayne Wade and the 80 rated Chris Bosh (who drops from the 87 he started 2K11 with). Bryant and the Heat, who have no players outside the “big three” above 68, are the only ratings revealed so far.”

(H/T: EOB)

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  • Shawn

    Bullsheet!!! Kobe’s the best player in nba and u make lebron better than him? wtf is that! Ill change Kobe’s stats when i get the game

  • Rob Cooper

    Guys these are not ratings for last season, these are more like predictions for how good the player will be this season. All things considered, Kobe is wearing down, reduced role, older, new coach – his rating seems right. LeBron has now settled into his new role and will be looking for his next MVP, first ring. Both ratings seem right to me.

  • Rob Cooper

    Guys these are not ratings for last season, these are more like predictions for how good the player will be this season. All things considered, Kobe is wearing down, reduced role, older, new coach – his rating seems right. LeBron has now settled into his new role and will be looking for his next MVP, first ring. Both ratings seem right to me.

  • Drew

    WTFFF KOBE SHOULD BE 95 WADE SHOULD BE 98 LEBRON SHOULD BE 97 AND BOSH SHOULD BE 85. WADE SHOULD BE HIGHER ESPECIALLY AFTER THE FINALS

  • SogeKing23

    D Rose’s overall is 92. You can see it on insight #8 – defense on operation sports.com or facebook/NBA2k

  • Kyle

    I guess the guys who make these video games and rate players only watch commercials and don’t know the game of basketball. Dirk owned everyone, and he’s always insanely underrated. Bosh said it himself, he was the best player in the league. And if the game wanted to be accurate, Dirk would have a 90 and Kobe would have an 89 after last season. LeBron would still have a 92 or 94 even but they’d have to lower some stuff cause he’s not clutch and he’s an overrated defensive player. He couldn’t stop The Jet after he called him out and said he couldn’t… and while he stopped Rose, on offense with his back to the basket, he couldn’t score against JJ or Kidd. So does he really deserve a 98? You think Larry Bird or Jordan would have been stopped by those guys? Wade is also overrated, and Bosh might be a tad underrated as odd as it seems. Oh well… if you sell JERSEYS, your rating is automatically higher.

    They probably also screwed over Nash, Kidd, Grant Hill, and Kevin Love too. Glad I don’t play videogames since NBA Live 2004(both Nash and Dirk were underrated even then.) If Durant is rated higher than Dirk that might actually crack me up. For people who used to call Dirk soft… Durant is the softest player EVER. Calling for a flagrant where players hear it on a weak foul… and the official right there looked at him like, “do you watch a lot of musicals and Vampire Diaries?” I get that he looks like he’s never lifted a weight in his life with those little kid shoulders and wearing backpacks while sitting down, but he’s not made of glass. I just hope they drop LeBron’s rating to a 48 in the fourth quarter and make Dirk’s a 99 since they care about being so spot-on when it comes to sales, I mean actual skills. Dirk is a 7 foot beast who plays like a shooting guard and has the most unstoppable shot in the game today and makes it when the game’s on the line.

    Wade and LeBron can’t shoot or hit freethrows like most elite scroers(Jordan, Bird, West, Kobe, etc)who aren’t centers. They also can’t hit 3′s, get back on D late after crying about a no-call, and don’t know how to get other teammates actually involved in the game. They’re stat monsters who’ve never helped anyone raise his game. Dirk was better at defense than either of these guys in the Finals… and I’m not even lying. Believe.

  • Celticsfan1530

    98 is way to high of a rating for any player, Lebron or not. I think a 95-96 would be better, even if it means making Kobe lower.

  • JB

    98 for the first three quarters…65 for the 4th

  • jay

    man im more mad about the rest of the team….this is how it should be
    1.lebron 97 (98 a little too high)
    2.dwade 96 (he aint better than lebron….just more clutch)
    3.bosh 86 (80..2k? really?)
    4.chalmers 74 (playoffs was unbelievable)
    5.haslem 71 (at least..cuz he a good backup pf)
    6.miller 70 (yeah 3pt shooter….but also good rebounder)
    7.big z 65 (gettin old…)
    BUT MAINLY 8. Anthony 68…why? (amazing rebounder and defender…played defense on dirk like a pro)

    everybody else was pretty much accurate..(lol).. thats the real list

  • MUBWAR

    i think it’s time people stop saying Lebron can’t shoot. Since he went to the heat, his interior per basket decreased by 2.5 but his field goal went through the roof at 51%.

  • http://slamonline.com Tae

    Kobe’s role isnt reduced…wtf u talkin bout? He still tha man on tha Lakers

  • JAdon

    lebron’s a 98? thats fine he was unreal untill the finals. hope there’s a season, i don’t feel like watching college basketball between football and baseball.

  • Nate

    in my opionion i think its fair that lebron gets 98.. see the difference between james n kobe is that lebron is a better all around player then kobe.. n lebron ACTUALLY plays defense n kobe doesnt so thats what takes half of the ratings added up to be lower than lebron.. n when u talk about CLUTCH.. kobe has his games that he is clutch n so does lebron.. so dnt think lebron hasnt done some of the things in the game that kobe has already done.. besides winning a championship.

  • polo

    rajon rondo will be a 89

  • Nate

    some of the players id rate would be having derrick rose at 93, d wade at 95, dirk at 92, durant at 95… n i think john wall should be 89 n d howard a 96.. sound pretty accurate? n if u read this u have to look at how each players game style is in the game of how dominant they are with it… n they play diff positions so thats y with gamestyle in how dominant they are in their position on how they play is y id give them in my opinion the rating…

  • http://www.slamonline.com Tritty

    After lebrons performance in the finals and also the playoffs in general i think he should be lower!! Kobe should be about 95 and Lebron should be 96!! Dwayne Wade about 94 and looking at Joel Anthony in at 55 after his playoff performances i think he played better than expected and should be about 62-63!!

  • shawn

    lol. cmon. The Finals are not everything. ANd if you knock Lebrons clutch too much just based off that, how do you explain the many other series where he has been pretty good. These ratings are pretty accurate. Kobe is statistically worse then he was at peak, and his defense and athleticism have certainly suffered. For those who say that “Jordan was 99, lebron should be much less derp derp”….. Jordan’s individual ratings(in the best Jordan’s in game) were so ridiculously high, that if ovr ratings could exceed 99 his would do so by a large margin. SO your argument is inert and pointless.

    Lebron is more efficient on offense then Kobe and is a much better and more consistent defender. Metrics show him as right there with iguodala for best wing defense last year Kobe has zero argument to be better in game, objectively. A bit strange that Lebron would be raised in ovr rating considering his offensive efficiency was actually down last year. That said, he should have been higher in 2k11. He is the best player in the league by far.

  • Yesse

    I really hope LeBron’s clutch is low, because the way he played in the finals was terrible.

  • Yesse

    As a matter of fact, if LeBron is 98, Dirk should be above that.

  • http://tempdog1 stephen

    Bosh is 80! hahahaha everyone hates on him

  • sportcenter

    lebron is the best player in the league so his rating shoulb be 98 and kobes should be 96 dwade 94 my opinion

  • Hessam

    Why is Chris Bosh an 80? That’s just inaccurate. 85-87. Lebron at 98 is odd, because he didn’t seem better at anything this year compared to last, he shoulda stayed at 97 and Kob gone down to 96. Kobe is more fun to play with anyways.

  • Sinclair

    Lebron a 98? That is just dumb. Should be no higher than a 94-95 in my opinion. Dude can’t even finish in the finals for God sakes! I wonder how much d*** he had to suck at 2k Sports for them to give him a 98 rating!? If D-Rose isn’t a 95 or better this game will officially be a joke. At least until the first roster update lol

  • http://facebook.com rj

    I’m a big LeBron fan but 98 is too much, I’d say LeBron is a 96 Wade is at 95, Kobe 94, Bosh at 83, D-Rose at 92, Dwight at 90, Durant at 93 Melo at 92, CP3 at 92, Dirk at 90

  • DieselMechanic

    I hope Kobe uses this as motivation. Wade AND Bron both rated higher than him. Wow.

  • Jaysmoove

    Ray Allen better be higher than 80!

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Man, they shafted Bosh on his rating. And I can’t believe Miller and Haslem couldn’t crack the 70s.

  • Rugulose

    Co-sign JTaylor21 and Jukai.

    You guys do realize this is a game, right? And this is for a yet to happen (and possibly non-existent) season. It’s not based on last year’s results, specifically Lebron choking in the finals or his 4th quarters. If that was the case, by that logic Kobe should be rated even lower for getting swept and not even making it to the finals.

    2K made the game and this is what they picked as the rankings. As Jukai pointed out, you can adjust it if you don’t like it!

  • SLJ

    I agree with RJ, all those rating sound reasonible. I have my players I like but I’m a fan of the game. Lebron would be good at 96 and its normally because he has a high shooting rating that he gets rated higher so if you lower his shooting stats a bit he should balance out. And Kobe as much as all you faithful fans hate to admit it is GETTING OLDER! Hence that lower stats, but lets not get crazy 94 is still high!

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Pretty Simple

    LeBron: 96

    D-Wade:95

    Kobe: 95

    Cp3: 93

    D-How: 93

    Dirk: 92

    KD: 92

    D-Rose: 91

    Melo: 90

    Dirk: 90

    Bosh should be a 84 or so.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    lol

  • Jake

    Its dunk, vertical, rebound, passing and blocking stats that puts him over kobe. Even speed. With wade its dunk, vertical, and speed. Remember, just because a player haS a 98 doesn’t mean he has 90s in the right places. There’s a chance that the stats for shooting are miles better on kobe than on lebron or wade. Besides if your not happy, CHANGE THE STATS!

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    The reasons LeBron and Wade are ranked over Kobe are 100% obvious. Seriously, you have to be either dense, dumb, or both (aka a Laker fan) to not understad that the stats are based off of how each player performed in the previous season and playoffs. NOt how they played 3 years ago, or based on what they accomplished, or even on what they “could” do. Kobe was less productive, efficient, and won less. Literally not a single legitimate reason to gripe unless its about the overall ranking of all players being too high.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    I didn’t know you were a Laker fan nbk ;)

  • bike

    LeBron is better than Kobe right now. LeBron is better than Kobe was at the same age. LeBron has to potential to be the GOAT.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    ^Stupid, stupid, stupid^ and a little more stupid. I don’t even want to get into it, it’s so stupid. How can a player who has never won the trophy that is the very reason you play in the L be the GOAT. Straight up stupid.

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    “Has the potential” – which is exaclty what you would say about Michael Jordan at the same age. Then you would respond the same way (because you’d be talking about a player who has achieved less) then you end up being the one who looks stupid stupid stupid.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Naw, I’ll wait for some chicks to hatch before I start blabbing like a idiot about some eggs.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    that doesn’t make sense. Nobody said LeBron will be the GOAT, (That would be calling it a chicken while it’s still an egg) That’s like me saying your stupid because you haven’t learned how to properly use that analogy yet. Your saying someone having potential is stupid. Plus you are infact blabbing about eggs like an idiot.

  • bike

    I said POTENTIAL to be GOAT. He is NOT the GOAT right now, and he might never be. He COULD win several championships over the next several years. He HAS been in the finals twice. Name players that have averaged LeBron’s numbers or better by his age.

  • six

    bosh is not a 80…should be 85-87

  • Pelican

    Those who believe that Lebron,s shooting should be dropped need to get familiar with statistics. Last season Lebron shot 45% from 10-15 feet and 45% from 16-23 feet. Overall he shot 51% from the field which is the highest in his career.

    Lebron was clutch in closing out the Celtics and he carried the Heat down the stretch against Chicago. Those were back to back series of clutch late game play. He failed miserably down the stretch against the Mavericks (perhaps he ran out of gas)and that more then anything defines his “clutch play” /sarcasm/ (?).

    Why do clutch plays against Boston and Chicago get thrown out the window while the lack of clutch play against Dallas defines his play for the season?

    That,s just dumb.

    2K is a respectable sports franchise, they can’t just throw statistics and performance data out the window because people “feel” a player should be rated lower. Players are rated in relation to the statistics they produce and how those statistics compare to that of their peers.

    Lebron had better statistics then anyone in the league last season (by both standard and advanced measures)and he outperformed Wade and Bryant in just about every statistical measure.

    I could easily make the case that his 96 at the end of the year in 2k11 was too low (rebounding and defense in particular).

    Lebron did not out produce his Cleveland numbers, but in terms of skills represented as individual ratings in the game(defense and shooting), he did make strides last season. Those are the statistics that boosted his overall rating (I suspect).

  • Jesse

    btw folks the demo drops in a few hours on xbox live and presumably the playstation network also

  • Kyle

    Agreed with some of the people, but how do you rate Melo or Durant(who hasn’t won anything and doesn’t play any defense over Dirk?) And Kobe shouldn’t be higher since like Barkley said, Dirk was the best player in the series and proved it continually.

    Bosh is higher than a 80, Wade and LeBron are both overrated.

    LeBron maybe deserves the highest rating, but 98? 94 maybe.
    Wade – 93
    Bosh – 86 or 87
    Dirk – 93 – who stopped him in the postseason last year? NO ONE.
    Kobe – 91
    Paul – 93
    Howard – 93(maybe a 94)
    Durant – 90
    D-Rose – 90 (owned by LeBron when Jason “The Jet” Terry called him out and OWNED him.)
    Nash – 87
    Westbrook – 86
    Melo – 90
    Amar’e – 90
    Wall – 86 or 87
    Allen – 82
    Pierce – 84
    Gasol – 88
    Marc Gasol – 80 rising
    Gortat – 77 rising
    Duncan – 79 dropping
    Ginobli – 85
    Kidd – 80 due to his high IQ
    Kevin Love – 87
    Jason Terry – 82… does what Allen does but off the bench with less screens.
    Odom – 81
    Tyson Chandler – 79
    David West – 80
    Kyle Landry – 79 rising big time
    Nick Young – 82 rising probably
    Arenas – 70
    Mike Miller – 77 if healthy at this point
    McGrady – 70
    The Custodian – 99

  • Bobby

    I also believe that (player name) should be rated (arbitrary number plus or minus x). It is outrageous that (another player) has a rating of (arbitrary number plus or minus y)!!!

  • http://Slamonline.com Caboose

    Kyle: That looks like fun. In order of what I think should be the ratings:
    LeBron: 97
    Kobe: 95
    Dwight: 94
    Wade: 94
    Rose: 93
    Dirk: 92
    Durant: 91
    Melo: 90
    Stoudemire: 90
    Paul: 90
    Deron: 90
    Griffin: 88
    Randolph: 87
    Westbrook: 86
    Ellis: 86
    Wall: 86
    Aldridge: 86
    Rondo: 85
    Love: 83
    Manu: 83

  • $$$$

    Lebron: 97
    D-Wade: 96
    Kobe: 94
    Dirk: 92
    Durant: 91
    CP3: 92
    D-Rose: 92
    Dwight: 92
    D-Will: 91
    Melo: 90
    Stat: 90
    Blake: 86
    Aldridge: 86
    Ellis: 84
    Westbrook: 87
    Harden: 81
    DJ Mbenga: 37
    Rondo: 85
    Gasol: 88
    Z-Bo: 83

  • $$$$

    Oh and Bosh should be an 84-85

  • $$$$

    Bosh should be 85 and Stat should be 88

  • Jay

    I don’t mind Kobe at 94 considering his age.

    But Lebron at 98 is overrated. It must be because his Dunk his at 99. But I’m sure it’s because of his offensive awareness stat which should not be as high as it is.

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