Thursday, October 6th, 2011 at 9:35 am  |  31 responses

Deron Williams on European Hoops: ‘This is Definitely Different’


Deron Williams remains the biggest NBA star playing overseas at the moment, and after recently struggling in a game that eliminated his Besiktas squad from a tournament in Belgium, he tells SLAM’s Jake Appleman about the differences in European basketball. From the NY Times: “Deron Williams, the Nets’ point guard, was here Tuesday night with his teammates on Besiktas Milangaz, a professional team from Istanbul playing a game in the Eurocup, a second-tier intercontinental competition. Perhaps Williams wished he had been back at the negotiating table. In a 74-63 loss to host Dexia Mons-Hainaut, he finished with 7 points, 7 assists and 6 turnovers. He shot 3 of 13 from the floor. The loss eliminated Besiktas from the tournament. ‘Didn’t give my team much of a chance,’ he said. … There was Williams in the tiny Mons Arena — seating capacity, about 3,500 — donning a sleek black uniform, white headband and bright red Nikes, staring down screaming fans. The crowd, and the opponents on the floor, were unimpressed with his All-Star status. He was roughed up by Mons-Hainaut. In the first half, after some physical play, Williams had words with Sean Singletary, a former standout at the University of Virginia, and picked up a technical foul. Midway through the second quarter, Justin Cage, who played at Xavier, barreled over Williams. Later, Williams missed three straight free throws — one negated by a lane violation — with the home crowd at full throat. He was knocked down attempting a 3-pointer near the end of the half. Asked if he was still adjusting to the European game, Williams said: ‘I mean, I’ve played in a lot of European basketball. I’ve played in the Olympics. But this is definitely different. The way the reffing has been going has been different for me, but I’ve got to adjust.’”

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  • http://www.slamonline.com UNFROZEN CAVEMAN LAWYER

    SOUNDS LIKE THEYVE BEEN REALLY PHYSICAL WITH HIM AND GETTING AWAY WITH IT. STILL NO EXCUSE FOR THAT HORRID STAT LINE.

  • http://www.optimabbc.be Max

    ^
    Let’s go Belgium lol!

  • Homie

    “I’ve played in the Olympics”. Not European basketball, my friend. I wish him good luck – sounds like he’s going to need it.

  • orso94

    I don’t think NBA players realize how difficult of a transitiotn it is from the NBA style of play.
    Zone defenses. No penetration game. Crazy crowds (especially in Greece and Turkey). No isos at all.
    In my opinion, barely a third of the NBA players would be able to succeed in Europe.
    But he is a superb player, though. He’ll make it.

  • axel

    Lol to the people who thought he was going to average 30PPG..no way with the physical play, zone defense and no isolation. Why do you think nobody averages crazy lebron stats in Europe?

  • bean

    well, and there’s no 3 seconds defense rule

  • The Cyborg

    And there’s no cr@ppy superstar calls or other tick-tacky foul calls.
    Why do ya’ll think it’s other’s getting away with mugging him all the time? Why is it Deron against the others? Same rules apply to all players.
    Man up. NBA players are bunch of pu$$ies anyway nowadays. Stern made it that way.
    //End of rant. :D

  • the truth

    I hate the superstar foul calls in the NBA and some of the ticky tack weak calls, but eurobasket allows way too much hand checking, takes away an element of the game. It’d be nice to have a medium between their rules and ours

  • Niio

    You know for people saying how much physically it is to play Euro ball, why is it or rather how is it that Euro players that play in the NBA are constantly labeled “soft”?

  • http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2011/10/4/2468098/nba-lockout-2011-owners-david-stern-robert-sarver-the-hook Allenp

    Euro ball caters to closing the gap between slower players and stronger players.
    The rules are designed to negate athletic advantages because that plays to the strengths of the players there.
    Also, they allow WAY more physical play on the perimeter than they do down low, which is why it’s more common to see big men called soft, not the wings and guards.
    If the rules are geared towards making you look better, you’ll look better. That’s why lots of Euro cats kill in their league, don’t kill so much in the NBA. It’s a different game. Whether you think one of the other is better is largely based on your personal preferences when watching basketball.

  • robb

    6 turnovers! can you imagine Westbook playing over there???

  • SwissArmyKnife5

    Whatever happened to real ball players? I’m not saying DWill is not good, but NBA cats egos are so fragile. He sounds like he needs a hug smh. I’ve seen him get physical with guys in the NBA, but know it’s different. He has a target on his back over there, those dudes are going for the kill. I suggest he get a warrior mentality, and stop crying, but then again he got his money already he can always come back to the States, and be treated like a star.

  • SwissArmyKnife5

    Playing overseas you have to have a I don’t give a f##k attitude, because that’s how all the players feel about him. He is trying to live off his name, that does not work across the water they need proof.

  • SwissArmyKnife5

    @Robb I think Westbrook’s t/o would be high, but he would have been going hard.

  • http://www.twitter.com/_dfrance dfrance21

    I didn’t get the impression he was crying. He had a bad game, he sounded disappointed. He was asked about the differences, told the guy what they were and said he needed to adjust. I think thats just what he needs, time. This is his first time playing full time in that league, now that he knows how its played/reffed he’ll be better next time.

  • Name

    What did he expect? That he’ll be able to get into the lane with no hand checking, no bigs clogging the middle, and be able to finish with little to no contact and still get the call? The NBA has basically butchered the game, giving perimeter players unprecedented leeway to go where ever they want to go. Meanwhile, inside players still get roughed the hell up.

  • http://shinefluidpt2@aol.com yada

    i think euro players are thought of as mentally soft. plus its alot different playing in your comfort zone than playing a million miles away with no one who speaks like u. so id guess its a tough adjustment as far as style and just comfort. basketball is all about being comfortable

  • http://www.optimabbc.be Max

    ^
    I think they have alot of players speak English :)

  • #6marjons

    hope his weak tenure overseas doesn’t hurt his negotations next year especially if he continues to play this poorly

  • EtheKnickfan

    Those players are sayin “you made it already NBA boy” He taking the spot of someone who cant just go back to the NBA. Anybody making NBA upper tier income, playing a GAME, with as much extra time on their hands as athletes have should not have to work.

  • Clos1881

    And this is exactly why euro basketball is trash it reminds me of a video game I had on super nintendo called bill laImbeers basketball.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Clos1881, That’s your opinion. What makes it trash compared to the NBA? I don’t like Euro Ball very much. But to say it is trash is a little ridiculous. Your not use to it therefore it is trash to you. Good open minded-ness.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    it’s just a different game. If Dwight went out there he would absolutely murder everyone. He would look like the best player in the world. Guys like Andre Miller would look like they could never cut it in the league.

  • ab40

    No thanks slam. Btw perk would fail so hard in europe. Kd would be a show. I don’t know about kobe though. Btw the defensive pressure is all on Williams no great inside players to relieve some of the pressure. I’m sure Besiktas got strong bigs so don’t start defending.

  • Dagger

    Hate to say, but he was putting up these stats after being traded to the Nets as well . . . .

  • clos1881

    @lakeshow my comment has nothing to do with openminded-ness if I said they shouldnt have a leauge then that would be me being closed minded. I come from the school of thought of my man Roger Mayweather skills pay the bills not alot of skills in euro ball the euro leauge is like being a talented highschool player and going to the YMCA to play and them fooling you every time you drive to negate your skill level.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    Euro basketball sucks! Yeah, I said it.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    ^ Is this the real JT, or the Chris Bosh stalker JT?

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    The real JT.

  • MrSuper

    When Dominique Wilkins started playing for PAO Athens he had trouble adjusting at first, too (back in the 90s). Fans of opposing teams heckled the crap out of him and questioned his star status. Then Nique went off and had a 40 point game against Olympiakos, man he sent them packing!! :) But that was the human highlight film, the most underated NBAer ever! He finished the season with 20ppg, a great feat for the European style of play, and proved at least to me, that he was one of the greatest to ever play, managing to adjust his game and flourish “across the water” as you say.
    Deron needs to do his homework.

  • Havana

    Please see above to anyone who is prepared to argue that Manu Ginobili is not a first team HOF. NBA players having success in Europe is by no means guaranteed. Ginobili was dominant in one and semi dominant in the other. Won in both leagues, plus the Olympics. Mastered both styles of play. Even after getting rated in the Mid 20′s in Slamonline’s Top 50 players even while on the downside of his career, I would say that he is still one of the most underrated players / careers in the NBA

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