Sunday, November 13th, 2011 at 12:35 pm  |  55 responses

Fight Night

NBA players react to the Pacquiao-Marquez battle on Twitter.

With no regular season games to play or prepare for, it felt like the entire NBA was watching the Manny Pacquiao vs Juan Manuel Marquez fight Saturday night, if only because everyone was commenting along on Twitter while enjoying the competition. Roll through the gallery above to check out how the League’s best reacted throughout and after the clash; you might notice a common opinion regarding the judges’ decision to allow Pac-Man to retain his title, and while we’ll keep our opinions to basketball-related matters, feel free to chime in with what you thought of the ruling in the comment section.

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  • jay cutler

    I don’t think there was anything insightful to be learned from these twitter reactions. Does slam really have to do them for every dang thing? nevertheless i think the manny aura is in the toilet

  • http://www.slamonline.com UNFROZEN CAVEMAN LAWYER

    MARQUEZ HAS NOW BEATEN MANNY 3 TIMES. BUT, ARUM AND OTHERS HAD TO KEEP THE HYPE FOR THE FLOYD FIGHT. ITS FUNNY HOW ALL THESE BOXING ‘FANS’ AND MANNY ‘FANS’ CAME OUT OF THE WOODWORK A COUPLE YEARS AGO WHEN FLOYD VS MANNY WAS BEGINNING TO BREW. MOST PEOPLE KNOW VERY LITTLE ABOUT BOXING. MANNY HAS MUCH TROUBLE WITH AN OLD MARQUEZ COUNTERPUNCHER. FLOYD IS FASTER AND STRONGER, MANNY DOESNT STAND A CHANCE.

  • http://sportsnickel.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/silvastpierre.jpg Jukai

    So now that Manny looked like sh*t, do you guys think Mayweather is gonna stop dodging him? Or is he gonna keep doing it?

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    Dodging who? Take the same blood test that Mayweather and every fighter that has fought him has taken before a fight.

  • http://sportsnickel.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/silvastpierre.jpg Jukai

    JTaylor: Boxers don’t take blood tests. The fact that you said that kind of throws your knowledge of things into question. Don’t worry, call me the teacher cause I’ll take you to school on this one.
    Manny wanted to do what every fighter does: take a urine test. Mayweather wanted Manny to take Olympic style blood testing which absolutely no player is required to do. Olympic style blood testing means random blood testing anytime 20-something days before the fight. In the middle of the night. During training. Literally the night before the fight.
    Manny said “The last time I took a blood test right before a fight, I felt weak and lost. I am superstitious. What I will do is, I’ll let you test me during training camp. Then you can test me 30 days before a fight. Then you can test me right after the fight. All that time, you can have unlimited urine samples. There is practically no way I could be doping or using HGH and it not be detected in that format. Anything else is unnecessary.”
    Mayweather responded with “I’m a little b*tch and wont fight you unless you take a blood test the day before the fight, which is required by no one and wont make any difference!!!”
    Mayweather is ducking, dude.

  • http://sportsnickel.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/silvastpierre.jpg Jukai

    For more entertaining, listen to Mayweather vs Rude Jude.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    Jukai, oh sure, the little guy felt weak, wahhh wahhh wahh. Cry me a river. Mayweather has been taking that test for a while now and so does every boxer that has fought him (Mosley all the way to Oscar). So if those guys agree to Olympic-style blood testing and don’t complain of weakness after, what’s stopping Pac-Man from doing the same?

  • http://www.slamonline.com Chubachuchi

    Its the principle, your a BOXER, not the athletic commission, you have no right to dictate whether or not your opponent should take a blood test that’s not required. And Pac never tested positive for HGH or doping and its really clear that Money was ducking him out of fear.

    Regardless of that debacle the fight last night was probably one of Manny’s worse in a long while. Marquez just always had his number like Frazier had Ali’s. Pac looked like he didnt know how to approach Marquez’s fighting style, hes proably Pac’s kryptonite in that regard haha Floyd should take some notes. After this I expect Floyd to pounce at Pac, if he doesn’t hes a little bit*h for sure.

  • http://bulls.com airs

    umm, jukai just told you jt.
    thats pure bullsh*t if you honestly think mayweather isn’t ducking him. what gives mayweather the right to make all these qualifications? he does not run the commission. and did you just read everything jukai said???
    manny is willing going above and beyond regular commission qualifications to make the fight happen, but still we see floyd running.
    and no caveman, its twice that marquez lost to manny. however way you want to look at it, a W is a W.
    although, i would have called both of those draws, and marques was a G with that post fight interview.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    As a boxer you have the right to makes sure that your opponent doesn’t have any unfair advantage over you. Just because Pac-Man hasn’t tested positive for roids doesn’t mean he’s not on the juice. Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens never tested positive for steroids but every one knows those guys were clearly on that juice.

  • http://sportsnickel.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/silvastpierre.jpg Jukai

    JTaylor: That’s just not true. This is the first time he’s ever requested ANY of his opponents to take an olympic style blood test. Validated on what I told you to to look up (DJ asks why Mayweather didn’t ask Victor to take a blood test, Mayweather of course ignored it).
    He either a) really thinks Pac roids up and is calling him out or b) is ducking the fight. There is no inbetween. He doesn’t request this when he fights.
    The Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens thing is total horsesh*t. They were taking them when there was no type of testing, pee or blood… Urine tests can pick up everything except HGH, and if Pac is gonna get a blood test every three months, he can’t be on HGH either because you can’t flush the growth hormone out of your body.
    The whole thing stinks. Personally, I would put my money on Mayweather, I think he’s downright a better fighter. But he’s more worried about padding his stats and protecting his undefeated record, he’s downright scared of fighting a lesser fighter because of a CHANCE that guy could beat him.
    He’s a wimp.

  • http://slamonline.com The Black Rick Kamla

    Pac lost, period. This sport is dead and cremated at this point. I don’t even know what these judges have to do to become commissioned any more, I’m absolutely positive I could step in right now and be one of the best judges in the sport….its ridiculous to be honest, its fight after fight after fight…..all this greed and leveraging and politics…if you wanna know who killed boxing first see all of these belt organizations and then look at cats like Arum…..Don King will forever be considered on of the shadiest promoters in boxing history, but one thing no one can ever say about him is that he didn’t put the best fights together….PERIOD.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    Jukai, regardless of whether or not you think Mayweathers’ “ducking” Pac-Man, do you really think that Mayweather loses to the same guy that struggled and some believe lost to Marquez? The same cat Mayweather destroyed 2yrs ago?

  • http://slamonline.com The Black Rick Kamla

    btw, Floyd boxes circles around Pacquiao, light work. Pacquiao needs to just man up and take the tests. Its ridiculous. The best athletes in the world do it. Every Olympic athlete is subjected to random WADA testing protocol, in and out of competition, completely at random. Thats the best athletes in the world; Kobe, Lebron, Bolt, Phelps etc. etc. and what people who don’t follow the negotiations of that fight don’t know is that Floyd conceeded to a two-week cut-off for testing before the fight. Pacquiao and Arum still turned it down. Shane Mosley, a cat who was actually involved in the BALCO scandal from years back agreed to take the tests and prove himself clean……..as just a sports fan its incomprehensible to me that other sports fans would actually root against proper random testing procedures in a sport as violent as boxing (in any contact sport for that matter). And for those who don’t know, the current NSAC testing standards are a joke and have been beaten by a LITANY of dirty fighters over the history the of the sport and this is well documented.

  • http://slamonline.com The Black Rick Kamla

    @JTaylor21 Manny has never fought a skilled counterpuncher with good defense in his life…in his entire career. Basically he’d look like a rookie in the ring with a guy like Floyd. And then the general public would just complain that Floyd wasn’t pressing the action, and he was “running”…. Anyways shouts out to Timothy Bradley for dealing with the scraps that Arum through his way. Arum still won’t get him the good fights but the kid is trying. I personally think he can beat Floyd and Pacquiao….hold me to it

  • http://www.slamonline.com Chubachuchi

    Maaaan I just can’t wait till that Pac-PBF fight its been dragging out way too long. I still think its on Floyd for the fight to happen he has to come out and openly challenge Pac, thats all it takes.
    Ps- Pac was never on anything and everyone knows it.

  • maki

    In a 10-point system, the boxer­ who wins a round is given 10 points, and the other ­boxer gets nine points. (10 -9)
    If there was a ­ knockdown in the round (10-8)
    2 knock downs (10-7)
    If a­ judge can’t decide who won the round, it is­ scored 10-10.
    Now if you are the challenger, you must be­ the aggressor (Pacquiao vs Cotto) in very close­ rounds the­ Champion gets the 10. For example if­ Pacquiao would just stay still and Marquez does not­ attack, Pacquiao gets the 10 and Marquez 9. In this­ case Manny (champion) was always aggressive while­ Marquez (challenger) waits for an attack and­ counters.
    Marquez’s body language fooled a lot of­ people. Making people feel that he was the winner or­ at least it was a draw. It may look like he was­ landing more punches but the tricky part here is he­ was on the defensive, luring Pacquiao into his ­tactical traps (remember the challenger must be the one­ who is aggressive to be awarded 10 ). So even if ­Marquez did connect more punches, he gets only 9 for ­ being defensive and Manny gets the 10 for being the ­attacker.
    Pacquiao got more “10″s than ­Marquez. Manny wins.
    Why Manny won? “Manny knows…”
    By: Philipp Inno

  • http://aruysuy.com deezndhaus aka giogolo

    F*ck Pacquio..im a filipino but he’s ignoramous type of handling himself and his affairs including in the ring has gotten on my nerves real good.

  • http://aruysuy.com deezndhaus aka giogolo

    and F*CK SLAM. cuz this is the 1st time my comment @ 9:34 wasn’t up for review.

  • Saku 39

    Close fight; could have gone either way. Not a robbery. Pac did throw and land more so at least that supports the decision. For selfish reasons I’m happy he got the decision because it doesn’t take off too much of the shine of a PBF/Pac match-up. Make it happen now, Arum. Last time you waited you messed up Juanma/Gamboa.

  • http://sportsnickel.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/silvastpierre.jpg Jukai

    The Black Rick Kamla: None of the people you named had to do the blood testing. Well, I don’t know about Bolt. But when Mayweather Sr came out and said “Kobe did it, Lebron did it, Phelps did it…” Arum quickly corrected him and said “they signed up for random screening but NONE OF THEM WERE SCREENED!”
    And a handful of Olympic fighters have complained about feeling drained after giving blood. Is it mental? Yeah. But it’s still effecting them.
    Point being, Manny said “a month before the fight, right after the fight.”
    There’s no way he could be using HGH and it not be detected in that short amount of time. Pac is willing to go -ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT BOTH THE AMERICAN CLEAN SPORTS ADMINISTRATION AND THE NEVADA STATE COMMISSION BELIEVE IS NEEDED TO TEST FOR DRUGS IN BOXING-
    End.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    And there goes Jukai “ducking” my question.

  • http://sportsnickel.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/silvastpierre.jpg Jukai

    JTaylor, allow me to repost:
    Jukai Posted: Nov.14 at 2:42 am
    “…Personally, I would put my money on Mayweather, I think he’s downright a better fighter. But he’s more worried about padding his stats and protecting his undefeated record, he’s downright scared of fighting a lesser fighter because of a CHANCE that guy could beat him.”
    I’m so willing to answer your question, I did it in the PAST, JTaylor.

  • http://www.slamonline.com UNFROZEN CAVEMAN LAWYER

    I LIKE BLACKRICK MORE NOW THAT I KNOW HES A BOXING FAN. …..
    I LIKE JUKAI LESS, WAS THAT EVEN POSSIBLE?, BECAUSE OF THIS he’s downright scared of fighting a lesser fighter because of a CHANCE that guy could beat him.”
    AND ALL THE OTHER INSANELY RETARDED THINGS HE TYPES. ..
    YOU THINK FLOYD IS TRUELY SCARED? HOW WOULD YOU KNOW THIS? DO YOU KNOW THE MAN? OR ARE YOU JUST MAKING SHTT UP?
    YOU ARE A BOXING IGNORANT FOOL.
    WHO WAS JACK JOHNSON? JACK DEMPSEY? WHATS AN ANCHOR PUNCH? WHAT DID ALI SAY TO LISTON IN THE ICONIC PHOTO WHERE HE IS STANDING OVER HIM? WHO SAID ‘NO MAS’? AND TO WHOM?
    YOU KNOW NOTHING.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    I’ll Punch All of You in the Elbow

  • http://www.thatblogcray.com Anton

    lol @ nbk 12:33

  • http://sportsnickel.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/silvastpierre.jpg Jukai

    I don’t know which statement is more ironic… Tarzan saying you can’t make accusations without knowing the person (LOL!), or Tarzan asking me boxing trivia questions OVER THE INTERNET… a place where you can look up the answers and NO ONE WOULD KNOW.
    His stupidity knows no bounds.
    To be honest, I had no idea what an anchor punch was (it is honestly just a straight left, ie an in-step jab with torque). Other than that, those were some of the most absolute basic questions that any fair-weather fan would know. I don’t really get the point.

  • Papa Smurf

    HGH ain’t helping much in boxing. EPO is the real worry. And the testing Manny has agreed to is inadequate. The state commissions are in the dark ages. If a fighter wants to ensure an even playing field before he risks his life, he is entitled to. Just put it in the contract. State commissions don’t mandate specific brands of gloves be worn, but fighters regularly put such requirements in their contracts. This is no different.

  • Riggs

    Marquez is the ONLY fighter who matches up with Manny, THE ONLY ONE. That does not mean that floyd can easily beat him, at all. Thank god I used to box, otherwise i’d look like an idiot like some of you folks do.

  • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/gabriel-a-feldman/the-legal-issues-behind-t_2_b_1081107.html Allenp

    Mosely took the test.
    So did Ortiz.
    They all took the test.
    Why shouldn’t Mayweather say he refuses to fight dude if he suspects he’s cheating unless he proves he’s not.
    Boxers can set any rules they want, Manny can agree or disagree. You’re basically saying that unless Floyd agrees to fight Manny under rules Manny likes, he’s ducking Manny.
    I could just as easily argue that unless Manny agrees to fight Floyd under rules that Floyd likes, he’s ducking Floyd.
    The truth is that neither of them is in a rush to fight the other one because whoever loses is going to have his rep damaged for real.
    Also, how can Manny be the best pound for pound when Floyd destroyed the same fighter that Manny struggled against and struggled against mightly. I honestly don’t understand how boxing ranking works.

  • snasty10

    if floyd claims to be the best pound for pound fighter ever, he needs to fight the best out there, manny is the best out there, thats why i think a lot of ppl are frustrated with floyd stalling on fighting manny, honestly just fight the guy and give the boxing fans what they want, the best two fighters going at it, Im a floyd and manny fan, i just want to see two of the best have a violent chess match testing each others limits, cuz thats what boxing is if anyone here has fought before its not fun going against someone lesser then you in the ring, its the thrill of testing your will and smarts against someone as good or better then you and seeing if you can come out victorious. This fight alone will save boxing and gain alot of the spotlight back the sport has lost to the UFC

  • snasty10

    And ppl who keep talking about reps, need to stop that, both these guys will go down as some of the best fighters ever, Floyd by far is one of the best defensive/counterpuncher of all time, Manny is the Filipino who will go down as one of the most electrifying strikers ever, F*** reps, leave it all in the ring

  • T-Money

    I don’t care about the argument but I will just confirm the facts: everyone that has face Mayweather recently has agreed to take the test.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Chubachuchi

    It’s not about Floyd’s terms or Manny’s terms, its about the official rules of boxing set up by the official administration who has the sole right to dictate what boxers should do. No boxer should tell another boxer what to do, they’re just boxers. Trying to regulate boxers and checking if they’re on anything is the athletic commission’s job period.

  • http://ggfhh.com Jukai

    This whole “take the test” thing is untrue. Victor did not take the test. Gonna,need citations on mosley doing it.

  • http://sportsnickel.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/silvastpierre.jpg Jukai

    Man Allen, I thought you were better than this. Manny wants to fight on the terms of the Nevada State Athletic Commission. Which is all that matters. Floyd doesn’t. So Manny went above and beyond the Nevada State Athletic Commission. It wasn’t good enough for Floyd.
    Also, Papa Smurf, increased EPO can be detected in urine… which is f*cking pointless because Manny said he’d take a blood test. Not that explaining this to someone who thinks HGH is pointless in boxing will do any good.
    Mosley took a blood test 19-days before the fight. And it wasn’t random. At least according to boxingnews24.

  • robb

    I agree with Riggs about Marquez matching up with Pacquiao, but I do think Floyd’s gonna defeat Pacman convincingly because counterpunchers like JMM and PFB are the most difficult fighters for him. If Marquez gave him so much trouble, Floyd’s gonna crush him. He’s faster, stronger, bigger and younger than JMM, he also has a better defense (Floyd’s defense is the best in boxing) and on top he’s an even better counterpuncher. I can’t wait for Floyd to beat his @ss. This result was sickening.

  • Papa Smurf

    Jukai, your comment about EPO demonstrates your lack of knowledge on the subject. I’m not going to waste my time teaching you a science lesson.

  • Papa Smurf

    Also, Jukai, please don’t respond to my comment until you remove Manny’s nuts from your mouth. Given the inaccurate comments you’ve posted thus far, it’s clear that you’ve been distracted.

  • T-Money

    Well all of this is moot because Manny’s camp came out and said they want a fourth (!) fight with Marquez and aren’t thinking about Floyd. Mayweather’s camp have the date and the venue ready (May 5th)… who’s running now?

  • http://bulls.com airs

    wow.
    ppl are stupid.

  • http://sportsnickel.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/silvastpierre.jpg Jukai

    From Dr. Catlin, who heads the UCLA Olympic Analytical Laboratory:
    2) I’ve heard a lot about using both a blood and urine test to detect EPO use. Doesn’t an athlete have to test positive for EPO on both the blood and urine test to be considered a doper?
    “No.
    Blood testing has received a lot of attention because it is a new concept in the drug testing world. There is a blood test for EPO use, but it is only an indirect test that can be used as a screening measure to save money by determining whether the urine EPO test needs to be conducted. All the blood test does is tell the testers that the athlete has an unusual blood profile that warrants further investigation. The abnormal profile could be caused by the use of EPO, some other blood boosting drug, or just be explained by the athlete being a genetic freak or living at altitude. The testers then perform the urine EPO test to determine whether artificial EPO is the cause of the abnormality.
    The blood test does not have to be done in order for the athlete to test positive for EPO.”
    Whoops! Looks like someone has to STFU!
    S-T-F-U!

  • http://sportsnickel.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/silvastpierre.jpg Jukai

    ^^^^^
    I want to bask in the glory of that for a second.
    I don’t think Papa Smurf is gonna be responding in this thread anymore.
    Also, at T-Money: Well, considering Manny has lost two out of three times to Márquez (imho), it’s kinda ballsy that Manny is gonna try to fight him AGAIN…. unless he realllly doesn’t want to fight Floyd.

  • http://www.slamonline.com UNFROZEN CAVEMAN LAWYER

    NOAH, THOSE QUESTIONS WERENT A QUIZ. I DONT CARE WHETHER YOU ANSWER THEM OR NOT. YOU HAVE REPEATEDLY DEMONSTRATED A LACK OF BOXING KNOWLEDGE, DONT TRY TO PRETEND OTHERWISE.

  • http://sportsnickel.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/silvastpierre.jpg Jukai

    LOL I’m a fair-weather boxing fan. I’ve admitted and will admit that I’m a much bigger fan of the UFC. I probably understand the mechanics of boxing better than I know the history of the art itself.
    But I don’t think you’re anything more than fair-weather yourself. Those questions were absolutely pedestrian. If yer gonna throw them out in rapid fire, make them a little bit more complicated than boxing legends and iconic moments in boxing history that even people who don’t like the sport would know.

  • http://www.slamonline.com UNFROZEN CAVEMAN LAWYER

    YOU REALLY THINK CASUAL BOXING FANS KNOW OF JACK DEMPSEY? WHERE WAS HE FROM? YOU THINK THEY KNOW WHAT ALI SAID TO LISTON? CERTAINLY THOSE ARENT THE HARDEST QUESTIONS, BUT THE VAST MAJORITY OF CASUAL FANS DONT KNOW THOSE THINGS. …. BARELY ANYONE KNOWS WHO TAUGHT ALI THE ANCHOR PUNCH, WASNT A BOXER.
    ANYWAYS

  • Papa Smurf

    Nice try Jukai. I’m sure you’re familiar with Victor Conte … you know, the guy who has made people like Catlin his b!tches. Here’s what he has to say – http://bleacherreport.com/articles/331877-balcos-victor-contes-email-weighs-in-on-manny-pacquiao-steroids. Jukai, you’re clearly not too bright of a guy. I have work to do and have no need to spend any more time exposing your lack of knowledge. You’ve shown that you’re capable of doing that without my help. Have a good day.

  • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/gabriel-a-feldman/the-legal-issues-behind-t_2_b_1081107.html Allenp

    I know nothing about boxing. Well very little.
    But I do know that athletic commissions are corrupt. That boxing can’t even catch people who use “rigged” gloves, and that basically every fight is a privately contracted even between two boxers.
    So, if Floyd says “Do this and I’ll fight you.”
    And Manny says “I ain’t doing this, but I’ll still fight you.”
    Then how can either of them be ducking each other. They both feel that their terms provide them with best playing field.
    Deciding that one argument is better than the other depends on what you consider reasonable, and which fighter you actually like more.
    I don’t think the blood testing is unreasonable because the main reasons why Manny is saying he won’t do it are superstition and that it’s not mandated.
    Those don’t seem to be like very serious reasons, but they are his reasons and he’s entitled to tell Floyd no. I don’t blame either of them.

  • Papa Smurf

    My comment with a link to Victor Conte’s take on the issue has been awaiting moderation. Conte built an empire making people like Catlin look like fools. Just Google – “BALCO’s Victor Conte’s Email Weighs In On Manny Pacquiao & Steroids”. The rest of the comment I posted that is awaiting moderation states: “Jukai, you’re clearly not too bright of a guy. I have work to do and have no need to spend any more time exposing your lack of knowledge. You’ve shown that you’re capable of doing that without my help. Have a good day.” Game over.

  • Papa Smurf

    Oh and, Jukai, now that I’ve ended this debate, you can go back to jerking off while staring at your Manny Pacquiao poster.

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