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Monday, November 14th, 2011 at 9:15 am  |  22 responses

The NBA’s Media Blitz Prior to Players’ Labor Meeting


The League knows that players will hold an enormously important meeting today, and with a chance to hammer their message home once again, David Stern and Adam Silver went on the offensive, media-wise: they “leaked” their labor proposal to the press in full, put it into video form for those who don’t like to read, threw some salty language at player agents, and concluded their media blitz by answering questions on Twitter last night (well, sort of. They mostly just regurgitated the same talking points we’ve been hearing for months.)

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  • http://www.slamonline.com UNFROZEN CAVEMAN LAWYER

    CAPS SHALL CONTINUE FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE. SUFFER, YOU.

  • http://www.usatoday.com/sports/basketball/nba/nba%20proposal%2011-11-2011.pdf IAMORANGE4EVER

    Click my name and read the owners offer that is currently on the table. If the players vote to reject that offer, then they deserve to get bent over by the owners. One thing I LOVE in that offer, is the elmination of players coming back to teams that same season after they were traded and waived by the recipient team: Waiting period for trading team to re-sign traded player who is waived by recipient team is extended until the earlier of (i) one year from the date of the trade, or (ii) the July 1 following the last season of player’s contract.

  • http://itsahardwoodlife.blogspot.com omphalos

    I agree Orange, that deal is perfectly reasonable and fair. No spin here, just the offer they’ve been given, plain and simple. If the players don’t take it they can go to hell.

  • bull22

    believe me, majority of players want to come back and play and stop this nonsense.. but all it takes is for a few BUMS like garnett,durant,wade,allen to hold up this process with threatning that they are willing to tank the season over their hurt pride..

  • bull22

    and lets not forget the main two-headed monster BILLY HUNTER and DEREK FISHER..

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    @omphalos: the players don’t have a leg to stand on if they reject that offer. The clock is stopped, now it’s time to stop the bleeding of the 2011-12 season. Sing it with me now: Kumbaya, my Stern! Kumbaya! Kumbaya, my Stern! Kumbaya! lol

  • http://sportsnickel.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/silvastpierre.jpg Jukai

    I still can’t believe people think this deal is reasonable… sure, let’s take ten figures from the players and give it to the owners, but also completely restrict where they can play. Totes reasonable.

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    Jukai, this is the best deal the players are likely going to get, so to pass it up would not be reasonable. And please spare me that pipe dream hogwash that the players can get a better deal than the one currently on the table should they reject this current offer by the owners, and try going the decertification route. This isn’t Stern’s first rodeo man, he’s got the players union legally cornered. The players can take the deal and stop the bleeding, or get bent over because agents are upset about not having as many tools in their toolbox. *rolls eyes*

  • http://nbasobrietystrike.blogspot.com/ CoolWhip

    Don’t know if any of you followed the ‘live twitter’ responses. SternCo dropped this a few times “We need a system that allows all 30 teams to compete for a championship.” It was so insulting it was actually bordering on comical.

  • http://nbasobrietystrike.blogspot.com/ CoolWhip

    Whenever play resumes, this season, next season, or 2015, I think the league should offer free Broadband LeaguePass to the fans. It would be a sign of good faith to the fans, plus LeaguePass can make an average fan a super fan.
    Ohh, and as always, make sure to check out my site.

  • heals

    ORANGE thanks for the link and opinions, but I’m with Jukai. There’s a big difference between what is reasonable and what is the owners best offer to me. Bull22 if you think those 2 are the main monsters in this mess you are grossly uninformed man. Those bums you speak of also illuminates your ignorance on the subject. Good day, Sir…

  • http://www.slamonline.com spit hot fiyah

    @orange4ever dercertification would probably be the only way they can get a better deal, very far from a sure thing though, in other words not taking this deal is a major gamble if they can’t win in court.

  • http://www.slamonline.com spit hot fiyah

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/gabriel-a-feldman/the-legal-issues-behind-t_2_b_1081107.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000008

    I posted this in another thread, this is for those who missed it. A very informative article about decertification by a sports law professor from tulane.

  • http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/7207951/ncb-derrick-rose-kyrie-irving-37-other-players-nba-one-year-rule-espn-magazine Allenp

    Y’all should really check out what qualifies as a violation of anti-trust law.
    And then consider if the NBA violates it.
    The only professional league with an exemption to antitrust law is baseball, everybody else is only exempt because their players have a union.
    If the union disappears, they have to abide by federal law.

  • http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/7207951/ncb-derrick-rose-kyrie-irving-37-other-players-nba-one-year-rule-espn-magazine Allenp

    Here is an explanation of what decertification means, since it seems some of you are confused about how it works. It’s not about negotiating, it’s about the basic structure of the NBA, the structure that allows smaller teams to compete. Like salary caps, drafts and the maximum salaries..:
    Why would the NBA players decertify?
    The NBA players may believe that the NBPA has not done a good job representing their interests in the CBA negotiations, or they may believe they are better off negotiating as individual employees without the benefit of a union, but the players would primarily be using decertification as a means to end. The end is the ability to bring an antitrust lawsuit against the NBA challenging the lockout as an antitrust violation. The players would argue that the lockout constitutes an illegal “group boycott” by the owners. The players would likely also challenge any of the rules that the league might put in place that restrict a player’s ability to make money or otherwise impact the players working conditions. For example, the players could challenge the NBA’s salary cap, the player draft, and other player and free agency restrictions.

    What is a group boycott?
    In antitrust terms, a lockout is a “concerted refusal to deal.” The NFL players’ antitrust complaint against the NFL earlier this year sums up well the NBA players’ potential argument. In their complaint, the NFL players argued that:

    The “lockout” constitutes an agreement among competitors to eliminate competition for the services of major league professional football players in the United States and to refuse to pay contractually-owed compensation to players currently under contract with the NFL for the 2011 season and beyond, in violation of Section 1 of the Sherman Act…The “lockout” operates as a perpetual horizontal group boycott and price-fixing agreement, which is per se unlawful…The “lockout” has injured and will continue to injure Plaintiffs and class members by depriving them of the ability to work as, receive contractually-mandated compensation for, and/or offer their services as professional football players in a free and open market.

  • robb

    OK players time to make a deal. You don’t have any choices left. Actually (an sadly) you never had many. The owners control everything. Remember that Merovingian dude from The Matrix ? “Choice is an illusion, created between those with power, and those without.” sign the deal and get something decent while you still can.

  • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/gabriel-a-feldman/the-legal-issues-behind-t_2_b_1081107.html Allenp

    And click my name for the source document.

  • http://www.slamonline.com spit hot fiyah

    i posted link that is awaiting mederation. I think allenp cut and pasted from that article. The tulane law professor?

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    @heals, you are welcome man, however, I agree to disagree with you, yet without being disagreeable. Why? Because you’re classy like that. :) @spit hot fiyah, it’s like dollar and a dream gamble. The players need to see the big picture, and take the deal currently on the table while the clock is stopped. Save their money (only lose 1 paycheck if season starts 12/15/11) and the 2011-12 season. Get everyone back to work, and get the fans back too. THE PLAYERS UNION NEED TO STOP THE BLEEDING! YES THEY CAN!

  • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/gabriel-a-feldman/the-legal-issues-behind-t_2_b_1081107.html Allenp

    The players have a decent shot to win in court, despite the obvious bias towards the status quo that most courts have.
    The League restricts employee movement through group machinations. They are able to do this because they operate as a veritable monopoly. The players are not guaranteed a win, but then again, neither are the players.
    And, while the NFL lost, it lost barely, and possibly because it went the “disclaimer of interest” route and not the decertification route.

  • LA Huey

    …..Yeah, should got the decert route not this “disclaimer of interest”.

  • http://sportsnickel.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/silvastpierre.jpg Jukai

    Allenp: Well, the NFL lost mostly because the courts felt they didn’t give it enough time… that it didn’t seem like a group boycott because there was no negotiations. With the players, at least you can say they tried their best.
    Let’s not forget the NFL has decertified and actually WON in court in the past… court declared free agency illegal and forced the NFL to go back and make major concessions for the next CBA.
    The only issue is, it took I think about two and a half, three years… so that’s not good…

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