Tuesday, December 6th, 2011 at 2:10 pm  |  35 responses

What’s In It For Us?

Five trades that should happen before the ’11-12 season kicks off.

by Leo Sepkowitz

With the lockout over and the season three weeks away, there will soon be tons of player movement throughout the League. Free agency will be crammed into just a couple of weeks, and trades could be coming in faster than ever. Rumors have been pouring in over the past week, so it’s a good time to analyze potential “off-season” trades. Here are five deals that work under the salary cap that should happen before the season kicks off, not involving Dwight Howard or Chris Paul.

Trade No. 1:
Jazz Acquire: James Harden, Eric Maynor, Nate Robinson
Thunder Acquire: Al Jefferson

The Financials
Jefferson has two years and $28 million left on his contract, so OKC needs to muster up some money to balance the deal. That’s why Robinson and his $4.5 million expiring contract is included.

What’s In It For Utah
By dealing away Deron Williams last season, the Jazz brought in power forward Derrick Favors and a pick that turned into rookie center Enes Kanter. With Paul Millsap still around, they have tremendous depth in the frontcourt, making Jefferson expendable. They lack a scorer who can create his own shot, and Harden can be that guy for them. Maynor, originally drafted by Utah, would be nice insurance in case Devin Harris flops. Robinson probably won’t bring much to the table, but there are far worse money-balancers.

What’s In It For Oklahoma City
Harden is a really important piece in the Thunder’s offense, but they need a big man who can score. Serge Ibaka, Kendrick Perkins and Nick Collison are all strong defensively, but cannot be relied on as scorers. Jefferson, who averaged 18.5 points per game last season, would take a lot of pressure off of Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook with his ability to put up points in the paint.

Trade No. 2:
Lakers Acquire: Steve Nash
Timberwolves Acquire: Lamar Odom, Lakers First-Round Pick
Suns Acquire: Michael Beasley, Devin Ebanks, Lakers First-Round Pick

The Financials
The Lakers are way over the cap, so they need to make a dollar-for-dollar trade to land Nash. By sending Odom to Minnesota, a team under the cap, and Ebanks’ small contract to Phoenix, they do just that. Minnesota eats up some money but adds a first-round pick, while the Suns clear up a few million in their payroll this season.

What’s In It For Los Angeles
People liked to say that a star point guard wouldn’t fit in Phil Jackson’s system, but the Zen Master is gone. LA will likely lose Shannon Brown in free agency, leaving them really thin at guard and putting way too much pressure on Derek Fisher. Obviously Nash would be a huge upgrade, and at the cost of a couple of picks, which they seemingly never use anyway, and an aging role player in Odom, there’s no way they could pass.

What’s In It For Phoenix
Nash is entering his contract year this season, so Phoenix has to consider moving him. There’s a pretty good chance he’d re-sign with them a year from now as he seems to love Phoenix, but so what if he does? The Suns don’t have the pieces to win any time soon, and this deal could help them move on. Beasley likes to shoot a little too much, but a lineup featuring him, Aaron Brooks, Robin Lopez and Markieff Morris is one with promise. Ebanks isn’t a bad player to have lying around, either.

What’s In It For Minnesota
Not a whole lot. However, they showed interest in Odom on draft day, so I’m assuming they still like him. Beasley, a free agent at season’s end, will probably sign elsewhere with Derrick Williams now in the fold for the Wolves, so they should deal him while they can. Lakers first-round picks tend to be at the back end, but it’s still a solid piece. Add in GM David Kahn’s ability to make the worst possible move at any moment, and it all comes together perfectly.

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  • gubbins

    Almost all of those trades are ridiculous.

  • http://www.slamonline.com megatron

    Ive only read the first trade so far but Im willing to put money on the fact that okc will not give up their lottery pick, their back up point guard, and their 3rd pg for one of the worst defensive bigs in the league.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Not a single one of those trades makes sense.

  • golden state

    if Bargnani is that best the warriors can do, we are in trouble. also pairing bargania and lee would make this the worst defensive team EVER.

  • Actual Factuals

    LMAO the ai in NBA 2k12 wouldn’t even make those horrible trades… The first trade is the only “Semi” reasonable one lol this dude needs to start writing on hockey or something.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Lamar Odom gives Minnesota nothing they need, you can’t take minutes from Kevin Love or Derrick Williams for a rental player, and the Lakers 1st round pick does nothing for Minnesota. And Aaron Brooks isn’t even a Phoenix Sun. He plays in China. And is a UFA. And Marcin Gortat is Phoenix’s Center, not Robin Lopez. And in regards to the Thunder trade, A)It’s illegal, the Salaries Don’t Work. B)You would have 3 bigs making over $10M a season, and only 1 of them would start. C)James Harden is a better basketball player going forward then Al Jefferson, by himself.

  • arjae828

    not almost all…they’re all asinine. what is philly going to do with rodey buckets when they have lou will filling the scoring punch off the bench already? Who wrote this?

  • http://www.2ksports.com Showtime

    In Barkley Voice ( this is TERRUBLE) this is the most delusional trade scenerio’s ever seen in publication

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Page 2 – Josh Smith next to Blake Griffin? You won’t start a center? TO see cool dunks? And why in the world would the Clippers give up a first round pick and take back Marvin Williams, that is crazy. Plus they still have Ryan Gomes, and are trying to sign a FA like Caron Butler. Trade 4 is the only trade that makes reasonable sense, except Golden State was offered Rudy Gay for Monta Ellis, which is a much better package than the worst defensive center in league history and Bayless. So that’s not really in Golden States best interest. And 5) why in the world would Philadelphia give up Andre Iguodala for even more money and not one player of even close to equal value? And why on earth would the Warriors want Jason Kidd. They play a fast pace, 3pt centered offense, and you want to add a PG who doesn’t want to shoot unless he’s standing still with 10 feet of open space in front of him, let alone thefact that you would be taking the ball out of Steph Curry’s hands and prolonging his development.

  • http://redoftoothandclaw.ca/ niQ

    Trade 4, I like it =). Get ‘er done, BC! lol.

  • http://redoftoothandclaw.ca/ niQ

    I take it back, let the tank roll on for a top 5 pick!

  • http://www.slamonline.com aman from arkansas

    what about this:

    Hawks: Steve Nash, A. Biedrins
    Warriors: Josh Smith, R. Lopez
    Suns: Monta Ellis, D. Lee

  • mykel

    monta in toronto haha you funny

  • jdizzle

    Clippers/Hawks is the only one i can see happening, even then its a stretch.

  • MikeC.

    While we’re on the topic of ridiculous trades, how about Dwight Howard to the Knicks for Shelden Williams and a 2-round pick.

  • gani

    Funky trades.

  • meloman2.0

    id love to see the monta trade happen… but hope and reality are two different things

  • Drew

    Seriously you need to stop trying to write about basketball. You clearly don’t know what you’re talking about based on this article alone. Also, we all know if Lakers are going after a PG, they’re not going for Nashty, they going after CP3 Period.

  • http://leobeingleo.com Leo Sepkowitz

    @aman from arkansas — I like that idea, but I doubt the Hawks would be willing to part with Smith and only get older guys in return. Taking on Biedrins’ contract would really hurt, and the risk of having Nash walk at the end of the season is a huge one. Love it from Phoenix and Golden State’s end, though.

  • http://leobeingleo.com Leo Sepkowitz

    @nbk –

    Trade 1 does work money wise – check it out – http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=77mmpl8

    In trade 3, I really doubt the Clippers would pass on Josh Smith because they have Ryan Gomes

    In trade 5, the Warriors bringing in Kidd means huge cap relief for them as they dump Biedrins contract

  • blakos

    Horrible article

  • http://Slamonline.com Caboose

    More realistic trades:

    Lakers get: Chris Paul, Emeka Okafor, David Anderson, New Orleans 2013 1st Round Pick
    Hornets get: Pau Gasol, Lamar Odom, Metta World Peace
    (Lakers get the guy they want, Hornets aren’t completely gutted)
    —————————————————————
    Magic get: Monta Ellis, Andris Biedrins,
    Warriors get: Hedo Turkoglu, JJ Redick, Brandon Bass, Daniel Orton
    (Monta gives Orlando scoring option, gives GS depth at all positions)
    —————————————————————
    Suns get: Tyrus Thomas, DJ Augustin, Boris Diaw
    Bobcats get: Steve Nash. Robin Lopez, Jared Dudley
    (Suns get youth and cap space from Diaw expiring, Bobcats get center help and a star)
    —————————————————————
    Spurs get: Brook Lopez, Jordan Farmar, Anthony Morrow, Sundiata Gaines, Nets 2013 1st Round Pick
    Nets get: Manu Ginobili, Dejuan Blair, Da’Sean Butler, Spurs 2012 1st Round Pick
    (Spurs get a center to pair with Timmy and youth, NJ gets a star alongside Deron and a solid forward)

  • Flud

    This is nonsense. NONSENSE!!

  • T Bone

    man this is terrible!!!

    really struggled to read through this – none of these trades makes any sense.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Firstly, Leo, I appreciate you responding to my comments, as I wasn’t attacking you or anything like that, just don’t agree with the trades. Ok, now the Thunder trade, you’re right my fault, I was not thinking Robinson was at $4.5M this year. And I was saying they would not take back Marvin Williams and give up a draft pick (at all) especially not with Ryan Gomes on the roster. Josh Smith wouldn’t happen simply because there is nowhere for him to play. You have to have a Center, neither Josh Smith nor Blake Griffin are very good post defenders. Unless you think Donald Sterling would be cool paying a bunch of money for guys that are unbalanced. (He still has to give Griffin an Extension, he offered Jordan 8 years $40M yesterday) that would give the Clippers 4 players making around an average of $10M a season (Gordon, Griffin, Jordan, Smith) plus the 3 years @ $7.5M+ per season you’d be payin to Marvin Williams, 2 years $8.5M+ per season for Mo Williams. – In regards to the Jason Kidd aspect, are you saying they would just buy him out? I understood that they would receive salary relief, but isn’t it a waste to chase that relief by giving up Udoh? I’m sure they can find someone to give Biedrins away for. Plus the Mavericks would be taking on salary despite giving up 3 players for 1.

  • http://slamonline.com datkid

    yeah…… no. these trades make no sense.

  • http://www.slamonline.com aman from arkansas

    raptors get- a. blatche
    wizards get- a. bargnani

  • http://leobeingleo.com Leo Sepkowitz

    @nbk – The salary relief wouldn’t come this year for Golden State. However, Kidd’s deal expires at the end of the year while Biedrins has three years left on his contract including this year, all at $9 million per. For the Clippers, I think Jordan, Griffin and Smith could co-exist in a starting lineup.

  • http://leobeingleo.com Leo Sepkowitz

    @caboose – The Hornets would get no young talent back in that deal, and the trio of Lakers coming over aren’t good enough to make any noise considering how bad the Hornets roster would be without Paul. New Orleans adding a first-round pick to the deal makes it even more unfair. In the Ellis deal, the Warriors dump Ellis for a sharp-shooter, two role-playing bigs and Hedu’s ugly contract. That makes very little sense to me. In the Suns deal, I’m not sure why Phoenix would ship out Nash along with Lopez and Dudley – they are two of their better young players. The Nets deal would leave them extremely thin down low.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    You will have 3 guys who can’t shoot from outside 15 feet in your starting lineup? Josh Smith is losing athleticism by the year, the window for him guarding primarily perimeter guys is closing fast if it isn’t already closed. And that still means your wasting a year of Steph Curry’s development for $9M that you would have gotten 2 years later anyway. The Warriors are getting younger and younger and building towards the future. Wouldn’t it be more fruitful for them to take the Monta Ellis trade (which has already been offered, more than once), keep Steph Curry, and slide Reggie Williams or Dorrel Wright to the 2? That way you have a full, balanced roster. (Curry, Wright/Williams, Gay, Lee, Biedrins/Chandler) instead of (Curry, Ellis, Kidd, Wright/Williams, Lee, ?/Chandler)

  • http://www.slamonline.com/online/media/slam-tv/2009/12/video-did-dalembert-block-iguodalas-shot/ Caboose

    Fair enough Leo. It’s certainly hard figuring out trades that work for both teams, let alone 3.

  • http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine nbk

    If I was Atlanta I would pursue a Josh Smith, Zaza Pachulia, & Kirk Hinrich for Andrew Bogut, Drew Gooden, & Beno Udrih. Atlanta fills their void at Center (it is a void) and gets the best player in the trade. But they take back Gooden & Udrih’s contract (giving up Kirk also frees up the starting role for Teague) The Bucks get a true 2nd/1st best player who will fit in with Brandon Jennings, they get Zaza & Kirk to fill their other positional holes, and stick with their defense first philosophy along the way.

  • http://leobeingleo.com Leo Sepkowitz

    Bogut’s missed 76 games over the last three seasons. No way I deal Smith for an injury-prone center with Horford still around AND take on Gooden’s dough if I’m Atlanta.

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    He played 65 last season and has only played less than that once. And led the league in blocks and averaged 11RPG last season. And Horford isn’t cutting it as a Center, he isn’t going to make big steps forward till he plays the right position.

  • chris

    That last trade is AWFUL for the Mavericks

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