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Tuesday, December 6th, 2011 at 9:00 am  |  146 responses

Report: Lakers Want Dwight Howard and Chris Paul


by Marcel Mutoni @marcel_mutoni

If the latest reports are to believed, unless the player’s name starts with Kobe and ends with Bryant, everyone on the Los Angeles Lakers’ roster is available for trading purposes, as the Lakers reportedly chase after both Dwight Howard and Chris Paul.

The idea for the blockbuster move, which would obviously shake up the NBA dramatically, hasn’t only occurred to the Lakers.

According to ESPN, the Clippers are thinking of pulling off a similar move:

Hoping to pull off a pair of blockbuster moves that would rock the NBA, the Lakers are willing to trade anyone on their roster outside of Kobe Bryant to bring Howard and Paul to Los Angeles, two sources said. Whether the Lakers are able to make it happen remains to be seen, but with stars Pau Gasol, Andrew Bynum and Lamar Odom on the roster, they have the talent and the financial capacity to make the trades work. The Lakers have had cursory discussions with New Orleans about Paul within the past few days. It is not clear whether they have spoken with Orlando.

Sources say the Clippers also have intentions to go after both Howard and Paul. And like the Lakers, the Clippers are positioned — financially and talent-wise to make such a move. Unlike the Lakers, the Clippers would not have to make two trades. They could use their wealth of young talent to trade for either Paul or Howard and then sign the other as a free agent next summer when they’ll have enough cap room to offer a maximum-salary contract. The one player the Clippers will not offer in a trade is Blake Griffin. “The Lakers have company (in going after Howard and Paul),” another Western Conference official said. “The Clippers are doing the same thing.”

For the time being, these are just “sources” planting scenarios and trade possibilities in the media, so there’s probably no reason to get too excited about any of this.

Dwight Howard and Chris Paul’s names will appear in new, increasingly crazier trade rumors every single day until they both move on from their current teams. I hope you’ve prepared yourselves adequately for that.

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  • Yesse

    I don’t think they will be able to get both, but sounds great.

  • afra33

    This was expected. The Lakers are the No.1 team in the NBA and a chance like this comes every so often (Shaq). You can’t let this pass you by especially since every player in the NBA would love to play in Hollywood.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Jahmai

    Not happening. One of them, maybe. Not so sure about that either. I’m sure this will drag on until the trade deadline. Basicly repeating Carmelo’s last year. I think I will start avoiding these articles from now on.

  • http://www.twitter.com/hurstysyd Hursty

    This sounds exactly like one of Karl Pilkington’s stories, as he’s telling them to Ricky Gervais.
    Karl says something ridiculous, Ricky responds with something like “hahahaha, f*ck off! That’s absolute bollocks!” Karl says he’s serious, and Steven Merchant just giggles.
    So, this sounds ridiculous, and in contrast to ‘perfectly circular head’ man’s stories, this one may actually have some truth to it (unlike the monkey being fed bananas to fly the spaceship).
    ps – if this sounds incredibly off-balance to you then a) you’re correct. It is. And b) shame on you for not recognising this comedy.

  • jadams12

    I’d be really upset to see this happen. For one, Dwight Howard, stop trynna do exactly what Shaq did in every aspect of your career. It makes you seem wack. For two, superstars stop forming super teams. This is ridiculous. Orlando is stupid to take this trade. Especially when the Nets are giving them a better offer, and the Clippers could do even better than the Nets. If I’m Orlando or the Hornets, I say “Give me Bynum AND Gasol, or NO DEAL”. Its that easy. Because sending Howard for Bynum straight up is a terrible deal.

  • 23

    I think there should be a rule against having the best PG and best Center on the same team. Just unfair. They would be the best combo since stockton and malone. Cp3 would lob dwight alley oops all day. Cp3+dwight= dwight MVP. Could arguably be one of the best matches in nba history. Cp3 made chandler a star. Imagine what he could do for dwight!!!! Give D12 some confidence and watch out nba

  • AD

    if this happens the NBA IS fixed and bye bye to small market teams……. wat ever happen to every team having a superstar smh….. Our generation is made up of a bunch of followers

  • Riggs

    lakers are not the no. 1 team in the nba, what are you smoking? and if the lakers really think that they would give up paul or howard for odom and/or bynum theyre smoking too.

  • robb

    Yeah and I want 100 million. But if they pull it off…man I don’t know what I’d do.

  • jadams12

    SMH. I agree with AD. Bunch of Followers (outside of Durant, Rose who I consider a different generation anyway, that under 25 generation). Orlando has to grow a pair and really strong arm Bynum AND Gasol for Dwight. If not, then they’ll see Gasol – who the Lakers are willing to trade anyway- go to NO for Paul. These small market teams need to stop getting pushed around. In Hindsight, the Jazz Management is the smartest for Trading Deron Williams to the Nets and getting a lot for him, 2 years before his contract ended. Look at their roster now, u trade Al Jeff for Iggy and the Jazz are a playoff team.

  • http://www.optimabbc.be Max

    How is it bad if Dwight wants to be like Shaq again?
    And how is he exactly trying to be like Shaq if he would get traded to the Lakers?

  • cramzy

    Why would these teams willingly take part in creating yet another Lakers dynasty? Isn’t this the very thing these small markets are complaining about?

  • Justin

    Exactly what I was thinking Max. How dare Dwight want to be like Shaq, one of the greatest centers of all time, anyway? It’s an outrage! I also don’t remember Shaq being traded out of Orlando but I’m approaching 40 in a couple years and my memory may have gone a bit.

  • thor

    It’s not about him wanting to be Shaq Max. I think we all know, that isn’t the case. But you have to admit that there are many similarities between them, so it is only natural that people kind bring it up, especially if he goes to lala land.

  • thor

    delete kind^

  • Ali

    Don’t see the Howard to L.A. going down, but CP3 is an interesting thought if they can pull it off.

  • eZ

    Then, Trade Kobe for Blake Griffin. And pack fisher and walton to okc for durant

  • robb

    @jadams12 If you lose Howard (which will happen when he becomes a FA anyway) you better get the best center available when he’s being offered, that’s Bynum, otherwise you’ll end up getting a second tier center next year.

  • fade

    @jadams12, you do know that if Orlando/New Orleans push for both Bynum and Gasol that they won’t get a deal, right? And, ff they don’t get a deal, then there’s a chance that they’ll leave their team with out anything in return.

  • http://www.fullc0urtpress.com K.Holiday

    I dont see anything wrong with D-12 following Shaq’s footsteps. Shaq is one of the greatest centers of all time. There are similarities, so if this is what D-12 is doing, I dont mind as long as he owns up to it! As far as “super teams”, I don’t think there is anything wrong with that either. Super teams are going to breed more superteams, which will breed huge rivalries, which are great for the game. EVERYONE WATCHED MIAMI LAST YEAR whether you liked them or not. Does it suck for small market teams? YEP, definitely does, but it also gives these small market teams something to strive for. Not to say the Clippers are a small market team, but no one wanted to play for them 5 years ago and in comes Blake Griffin and now everyone is paying the Clips a visit during free agency. These small market teams could a draft pick away from being a huge attraction as well. That’s how business works. Not everyone can be on the same level.

  • MUBWAR

    if it happens, the league should create a sub division called the globetrotters including the heat knicks lakers and celtics

  • BRAVO

    THAT ISH CRAZ !!

  • JEr dawg

    It sounds like Shaq move, but really, who doesn’t want more success if you are as talented and charismatic as any superstar looking to expand their horizons? It’s just sheer coincidence. Imagine if Charlotte Bobcats had #1 pick in 2004, has playoff success, personal success, but it’s just…Charlotte. Dwight would make same move toward a trade to LA if not sooner.
    Conspiracy theory? NBA does own Hornets….
    Let it sink in for a minute. GM of team can only do so much. Owners need to approve it. Pau Gasol and few others will somehow make it down there for CP3 while Bynum trades places with Dwight. Orlando’s Organization are boneheads anyways. Rashard Lewis contract and switching his for Gilbert Arenas. Lol

  • All Day

    Lakers won’t be able to get D12 and CP3. They can’t get them both. D12 is headed to the Lakers. The Lakers will sign D-Will as a free agent this summer. CP3 is headed to the Knicks.

  • Riggs

    atlanta wouldve been pursuing dwight if they didnt do that stupid joe johnson move

  • Heals

    Kinda surprised by the desperation of LAL at this point. My only guess is the locker room/on-court chemistry is even more suspect than reported. But I just love how people get to report these crazy deals without ever discussing the contract issues, lack of tradable talent or the fact that any draft picks offered would end up only being late first rounders. Instead everyone (media types) heads to their keyboards or cameras to further fuel the speculation rather than talk about the numerous complexities and obstacles involved in LAL (or NY) landing one of these guys…

  • Heals

    also glad to see the new CBA is keeping stars in smaller markets (que eye roll and head shake)…

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    Not happening.

  • http://www.google.com/news BETCATS

    LOL wut

  • jadams12

    Shaq wasnt even out of the league before Dwight did the whole “Superman” thing. The key thing about that is Shaq keeps throwing jabs at Dwight, “Be your own man. Theres only one Superman, etc.” I could see if Shaq felt that Dwight was worthy of his throne, but Shaq doesnt even like Dwight on the low.

    @Max, As far as the difference between being traded and signing in Free Agency, there really isnt a difference because Dwight chooses where he wants to go because of the contract extension. What I’m saying is, if Dwight wants to be a Laker he lacks originality. Atleast when Shaq signed with LA, he wanted to be like Wilt who was long gone. I don’t like carbon copies. Maybe thats just me.
    @Fade I think the Lakers would take the Trade either way, especially if Orlando threatens to trade him for the Nets deal. LA has no leverage; there are plenty of suitors for Dwight Howard. So if Orlando says Gasol and Bynum, Lakers have no choice but to take if they really want Dwight in a Lakers uniform.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Is a team of Kobe, Paul and Dwight, with a bunch of scrubs, enough? On paper it sounds like it, but for some reason, I’m skeptical.
    Is that team demonstrably better than Miami?
    Is it deep enough to beat Memphis and OKC or Dallas?
    I don’t know, but it would be interesting to see. Although I’d rather Dwight go to New Jersey with Dwill

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    That team would be very good. They would have issues with athletic teams, like the Heat, but that LA team would still compete with & challenge everyone if they got both of them. But it simply isn’t happening. We are much more likely to see neither of them go to LA, and I personally don’t think that’s gonna happen either.

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    They got a small chance of getting one. Zero chance of getting two. The Lakers would have to gut their roster to get Dwight Howard, and let’s make one thing clear, this time Jerry West isn’t the GM on the other team, as he was when they traded for Pau Gasol. lol

  • http://www.slamonline.com angel of stern

    @IAMORANGE4EVER yeah but the #%$#!^@ league owns the hornets

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    The league owns the Hornets. THe league wants to sell the Hornets. The Hornets are not going to be taken advantage of under their watch.

  • http://www.slamonline.com megatron

    ok yesterday I was wondering how they were even going to get 1 of them. Now they want 2? How the fk is that going to happen?

  • http://redoftoothandclaw.ca/ niQ

    IMBA ish.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Durant, thanks to his team’s run of horrible records, got Russell Westbrook, Jeff Green, Serge Ibaka and James Harden.
    His team drafted 1, 4, then 3, and I think Ibaka was like 9. Green as a five.
    So, his team was so garbage, they have had five top ten lottery picks in the past few years.
    OF COURSE HE DOESN’T NEED TO LEAVE. HIS TEAM IS ADDING TOP FLIGHT TALENT EVERY YEAR!
    In contrast, Paul, Dwight, LeBron and Wade were so talented they made their teams PLAYOFF SQUADS within two years to three years and then CONTENDERS within four.
    Look at the talent the general managers in Miami, Cleveland, New Orleans and Orlando have managed to pick up since they first drafted their superstars. Then compare that to what Durant has in OKC, and what Rose has to a certain degree in Chicago.
    You’ll discover a serious gap. It’s amazing that this isn’t more obvious to people.
    If I was a superstar, I would be pissed that my team has wasted seven years of my beastliness and now, is saying “Well give us another three years or four years.”
    At this same point, Jordan had Pippen and Horace Grant on his squad and they were trading for Carthwright, who was a 20 and 10 guy at one point in his career.
    If your team is getting talent, then you’re a punk for jumping ship. If your team is signing Rashard Lewis to $100 million contracts, it’s time to make a move.

  • http://www.optimabbc.be Max

    ^
    Cosign AllenP

  • bike

    I honestly would love to see this happen. Then, have them get knocked off in the playoffs by a team with better balance, more depth, and better coaching.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Right now, the Hornets have like five players under contract.
    And nobody is talking about them signing any good talent. They are on the verge of GROSSLY overpaying for a power forward who has never grabbed 9 rebounds in his entire career!
    They have traded every single one of the lottery picks for the past four years.
    Julian Wright, J.R. Smith and Marcus Thornton.
    If you screw up a lottery pick in the NBA, you have almost certainly doomed your team UNLESS you are just a beast at free agency.
    that is the only thing that saved Pat Riley.

  • DuckTape MOB

    Reading these comments making laugh hard as hell.
    If yall Complaining about this move you might as well sit down in the corner and shut up.
    NBA been like this for a long ass time.Big name players go to Big Cities.
    The reason it’s a front page story is because of ESPN and The Decision which got coverage all over the Media.

    I want Howard on the team don’t really care for CP3 because I think Darius Morris might be our answer for PG

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    The Lakers won’t trade anyone. They’re just lighting a fire under everyone sans Kobe, because of how they got swept by the Mavs. After changing coaches, they won’t change the roster too drastically. They’ll keep the core of the team together, and try and get younger and more defensive at guard (see Delonte West), then let the chips fall where they may for the 66 game season. I’m sorry to disappoint Lakers fans who are playing with the trade machine and getting all excited. LMAO

  • http://bulls.com airs

    on a completely unrelated homer note, i hear talks that the bulls are sleepers in the trade for dwight.
    apparently offering anyone except derrick

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    The Bulls don’t have a franchise player to offer in return. And they also can’t offer draft picks or cap relief. Suffice it to say, there is no chance in Chicago landing Dwight Howard.

  • http://slamonline.com Kap

    I could see the trades happening. Imagine the buzz the nba would receive post lockout if this trade happened. There could be pushing secretly by the league office for one of both of these deals to happen. At the end of the day the NBA is an “Entertainment Business”.

  • tomtom

    oooooooooooh i love the hate, bring the hate!!!! Hahahahahaha!!! Lakers for liiiife :D P.S. Shout out to Hursty for the Pilkington reference.

  • ab40

    I think funny or die has inside info. haha they said they were gonna cut everyone buy kobe if this happens that’s gonna be real life. I hope Dallas can resign Tyson Chandler, he seems to be very selfish right now and if he goes on to lose everywhere else that will tarnish his legacy.

  • http://bulls.com airs

    well this is all just talk, but i also heard the bulls would eat one of the magic’s big contacts, so that could relieve some cap space.
    but really? you don’t think a joakim, luol, and….john lucas trade would be enough?

  • http://slamonline.com Kap

    Bynum was the Lakers second best player in the playoffs last year if not the best with averages of over 18 and 10 with almost 2 blocks. That’s good value in return for two guys who will definitely not resign. Bynum also has only one year left on his contract after this season as well as Odom.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Not really, I mean, how are you going to rebuild when you have over $20M to Luol Deng and Joakim Noah. Plus in order to take back a bigger contract, like say Hedo Turkoglu (the smallest of Orlando’s big contracts) the Bulls would have to include Kyle Korver, Derrick Rose, or Carlos Boozer. Only Rose would be worth anything in a trade, and we know he’s not an option. It really just can’t happen, Chicago has nothing that benefits the Magic.

  • http://bulls.com airs

    oh well.
    at least we don’t have to part ways with john lucas III

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    haha I think Joakim Noah feels the same way.

  • jsmallz

    Another super team wow.willing to give everyone up but kobe.Kobe is good but lets face it he is not just coming into the league. So they trade everybody some how it will be the scrubs with the big three of la. maybe they can sign other role players like the celtics did when they did it. Only reason why it worked for them posey house and some many role players. Then again they had a entire summer not just a couple days. Then you got the fact its a new coach.Paul awsome guard but will have to get use to a new system in a shorten season in which making every game all the more important.La is not the only place to play mean look it is one of many teams with history. seriously matter of where these guys go is if they are traded become free agents in which changes what teams have a better shot.

  • http://slamonline.com Kap

    Any team with Kobe, Chris Paul, and Dwight Howard will be very, very good no matter who the role players are.

  • mike

    This will definitely happen if cp and dwight want it too. Ottis will take bynum and odem easy. Gasol fisher maybe a couple other goons for chris paul and lakers are back in action. Which sucks because I’m a thunder fan

  • http://bigleaguewiffleball.com/ Jon L.

    This would be a tough team to contend with out West. If they get Paul and Howard, I really don’t see a team that could knock them off in the playoffs…not even the possibility of a Heat-Lakers final. I think LA would take it home.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    It doesn’t suck, because that won’t happen. Gasol is not enough to get Chris Paul. And Bynum and Odom are not enough to get Howard. Bynum & Gasol for Howard. Or Bynum & Odom for Paul. It’s that simple.

  • http://slamonline.com Kap

    @nbk…there was a rumor of the Lakers looking for a third team with the Magic trade. Possibly the Bucks and involved Andrew Bogut.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Yeah but that still wouldn’t allow them enough pieces to make a run at Chris Paul. Andrew Bynum is the trade piece both New Orleans and Orlando covet, he can’t get traded to 2 different teams at once.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    And if you think the Bucks are giving up the 2nd best defensive center in the league who is 26 years old for Pau Gasol then your a little nuts.

  • http://nba.com GP23

    No way this is happening.. as of yet anyway. The Lakers are mainly looking for a point guard, and CP3 is destined for the Knicks. D-Will will most likely go to the Lakers, as he won’t be re-signing with the Nets one he becomes a Free Agent.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    The Lakers can’t sign any free agents that cost more than $5M a year. So uhhh, no.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Some of y’all are hilarious.

  • YoLu

    I’d much rather have Joakim Noah over Andrew Bynum. If the Bulls are offering Noah and maybe Taj Gibson (or other piece) for Dwight, then I’d take it over Bynum and Odom. Noah is a winner that doesn’t care so much about personal accolades. Imagine Dwight and Rose together. Those games would last forever because they’re team would have more free throw attempts than field goal attempts.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    What people don’t realize or want to realize about the Chris Paul trade is that it potentially brings back a double double center in Emeka Okafor. His contract is horrid, but he is serviceable. And fits in peachy next to Pau Gasol. (I still like the Orlando trade better, but the New Orleans trade will keep/make LA a contender)

  • http://nba.com GP23

    my bad nbk, totally forgot about that… I’m guessing they will have to look to trade for a point guard then. I just can’t see it being Chris Paul though.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    NO stress GP

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    I still think OKC will be a viable opponent and can beat the Lakers if this asinine deal pulls through. Russ will hold his own against CP, an up and coming SG in JHarden, a top-2 SF in KD (Lakers have no one to guard him), and a stellar defensive frontline to throw at DHow.
    I’m not saying this deal is going to happen (Lakers don’t have enough pieces) but even if it does, OKC has nothing to worry about.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    My homeboy and I were discussing the OKC option.
    In all honesty, the Hornets would have to believe that Russell Westbrook is a superstar to make that deal, or at least a budding superstar.
    Because they will get nothing else in the deal, and they still have to resign Westbrook in a year or two.
    The Thunder are not giving up Harden or Ibaka. All the Hornets might get is Collison or Thabo.
    That means they have to REALLY believe in Westbrook.

  • YoLu

    Westbrook would put up some crazy numbers on the Hornets. The team would be awful, but I’m not sure if Westbrook would initially care too much about that.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    Good point. Especially coming off his WCF showing, the Hornets are going to be more even more hesitant to go from a PG that got everyone involved to a shoot first, ask questions later PG.
    I think the Clippers should forget about getting both guys and focus on CP. EG, CKaman and a couple drafts picks should be more than enough to satisfy the Hornets. If people thought that BGriff was scary last season, imagine him playing with a PG of CP’s caliber.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    On the flip side, the Thunder would have to believe Chris Paul will remain healthy (his knee can hold up) for the long haul. Like the next 5-6 years. Which would be a risk. I would actually assume the Thunder would ask for too much in return for Westbrook. Like draft picks.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    JT, the Clippers won’t include Gordon unless Paul commits to an extension before the trade.

  • http://slamonline.com Kap

    @JTaylor…did you forget about Ron Artest holding Durant on lock the past two years. @nbk…I was talking about Bynum going to Milwaukee.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Yeah Kap, I realize that. Are you trying to say Pau Gasol can net Chris Paul, cuz I already explained why that isn’t enough. The three team trade, if Bogut is involved, will still only bring over Howard. It’s not going to magically give the Lakers enough assets to grab the best PG in the league for a guy who is about as mentally tough as a slim jim.

  • http://slamonline.com swagg

    the title is dumb….every team in the NBA wants Howard and Paul not just he Lakers

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    I told another Lakers fan that if the Hornets trade Paul basically straight up for Gasol that would be ridiculous. The Westbrook trade is a better option than that.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    It’s not that I don’t want either of them…. I do, but I am just fine with the team we have. Obviously an upgrade at point is needed, but other than that I don’t really care about netting any superstars. At least this season anyway. Nash would be nice though.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    “as mentally tough as a slim jim.” LMAO

  • chingy

    I can see a Westbrook for CP3 trade straight up.

  • http://slamonline.com swagg

    I feel you LakeShow. But what happens when Kobe retires. The Lakers will go into a period of sucking. i don’t want that. Bynum is a servicable center but I don’t trust his knees. I rather blow up the team now for the sake of the future. We have a team full of old people. The Lakers are in the beginning of a new era. the Jim Buss error and post Phil era.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    Artest locked up KD the past two seasons, really? I had no idea the lakers went up against OKC in the playoffs last year. Two years is two years ago, I believe KD has gotten significantly better since the last time both guys met in the playoffs.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    swagg, I’m cool either way. Trades go down and we get good talent back, cool. 1 or 2 small trades for a better PG, or grabbing Delonte West is also just fine with me. Either way I feel good about this next year. I’m of the few that think Steve Blake and Barnes will bounce back if they are around this next year, but they probably won’t be. Those guys are good role players though.

  • bike

    As Lake said, why in the world would the Lakers want to blow this team up right now? A healthy Bynum, potentially big contributions from a solid core of young guys, and maybe a new knee for Kobe equals a pretty good shot at another championship. Another example of owners and GMs always reaching for that moving pot of gold instead of concentrating on what they already have…

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Lakeshow, you do realize LA has nothing to offer for Nash right? It just isn’t in the cards

  • http://slamonline.com Kap

    @nbk…I wouldn’t focus on CP3 if I was LA. He is very injury prone and the drafts in recent years have proved you can find a good point guard outside of the lottery. For example, Collison, Lawson, Jeff Teague, Aaron Brooks.

  • http://philosopher.view@blogspot.com The Philosopher

    Easy as this… Pau and Bynum for Dwight, Odem Shannon Brown and Fisher for Paul

  • http://nbasobrietystrike.blogspot.com/ CoolWhip

    Reports indicate the Toronto Raptors are also in the hunt for the two megastars. Offering up anybody on their roster, including the CN Tower and Skydome.
    I’m pro-Paul and Dwight landing in the same spot (hell I predicted Paul to Orlando three years ago), but I don’t like them joining Kobe so he can compile some cursory rings in the end of his career. Here’s to hoping that Orlando loses their mind and get a taste for D-Jordan and Kaman

  • YoLu

    If they have pieces to offer for Paul and Howard, then why couldn’t they make it happen for Nash? The Suns may not accept because they’re in rebuilding denial, but I would think they would have to at least listen to a package involving a young (and apparently first tier) center in Bynum. The Suns would have to throw in Gortat and the Lakers would probably have to add some pieces, but it could happen. I despise the Lakers, but who wouldn’t love to watch Kobe, Nash, and Gasol playing together for 2 or 3 years?

  • http://shinefluid@aol.com yada

    bynum is hurt for half the season every year. gasol and odom are on the bottom ened of their prime. odom probably passed it. wouldnt orlando and N.O be looking for young talent and high draft picks?? why take veterans on their downside?

  • http://yahoo DA WORLD CHAMPS

    CAN NOT see both of them going. 2 be honest DWIGHT is playing mind games he AINT LEAVING ORLANDO. So FANTASIZE about ANOTHER PLAYER L.A.

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    First of all the Suns were weary of Amar’e Stoudemire’s knees, Bynum would be a bigger risk. And secondly, Steve Nash is not nearly as attractive as Chris Paul.

  • http://redoftoothandclaw.ca/ niQ

    @nbk, pause…

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    How is CP “very injury prone” when he’s played 78-80gms in 4 out of 6 seasons? The man played 80gms last season coming off major knee surgery, that’s more games than Wade, Bron and DHow played last season.

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    Yeah you know what I meant

  • Michael

    In other news I’ve decided to go after Mila Kunis and Rihanna.

  • http://Slamonline.com rocksinmypants

    ^hahahA

  • LA Huey

    @nbk, I agree. Paul is more attractive than Nash. While Steve may have his wavy locks, I’m more partial to CP3′s big brown eyes and baby face.

  • YoLu

    Obviously you go for Paul first, but it’s not a done deal just because the Lakers want him. LAC, GS, OKC, and even BOS with Rondo (reports have said the Celtics are willing to risk Paul not resigning) can offer younger, more valuable trade assets to a team that’s up for sale. If the Lakers can’t get Paul, then they still have a PG problem. Nash is still a top tier playmaker. Give him Kobe, Gasol, and Odom instead of Vince, Warrick, and Dudley and a chance to win a title to equal Dirk. I don’t think he’d argue with that. If I’m a Lakers fan, then I wouldn’t either.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Pau and Blake or Odom, Blake and Ebanks or something.. Is it really impossible? I can never figure out trade numbers lol. Seems like ol’ Kupchak could figure something out.

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    Pau and Odom for Nash, Childress and Warrick would work and LA would likely demand Robin Lopez (approximately – I am on my phone so I am not actually gonna look but I’m normally pretty spot on about contracts). You think that improves LA enough to take a 38 year old PG?

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    Pau is not enough to get Nash from Phoenix. First of all, improving the Lakers is just about the last thing on every person with even a tid bit of interest in the Suns, and giving up your (league most) cap space in 2012 for a 31 year old Pau Gasol is a risk. If it’s not completely stupid

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    You would trade Pau for Nash? Are you high?
    I would not trade either Pau or Bynum for Nash.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Not sure if that would. It would obviously improve their offense, but would ruin their defense… HMM, Honestly I would just like a serviceable point guard who can play D. So ya Delonte would be prefect lol.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    I can’t believe the Lakers would even consider trading Pau or Bynum for Nash.
    You don’t trade that sort of size, size in its prime, for an aging, offense only point guard who really is only a superstar in an uptempo system that completely conflicts with what your team runs.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Trading Pau would not improve their offense at all.
    Well, it wouldn’t improve their offense if they were running the triangle. I don’t know about whatever bastard offense Mike Brown is planning.
    Pau, for all his Charmin’ softness, is a very good scorer, great passer and good rebounder. And he plays decent defense. And, here’ the most important thing, HE’S SEVEN FEET TALL.

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    Allen, if they got Dwight and kept Pau I could see the logic behind pursuing Nash. But LA doesn’t have the pieces to make it make sense for both sides. It would be easier to find a useable PF in free agency than a starting PG. And Dwight makes LA’s defense top 5 the day he puts on a jersey.

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    And Nash would do more for an offense that featured Dwight then Pau Gasol would.

  • YoLu

    Nash is a terrible defender, but having him putting up around 14 ppg, 11-12 apg, and shooting around 50-40-90 is light years better than Fisher on the offensive end. He’s old as hell, but with how he takes care of his body it’s hard not to see him being productive for another 3 years. If I’m LA, then I’m not making the trade if Gasol is involved though. If you get rid of Bynum, then you’re losing your main rim protector. I think Gortat would take over that role better than Lopez if you can get him.

    As people have stated, the Lakers are pretty damn good right now. But if they want to solve their PG predicament, then Nash has to be considered.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Would he really?
    I remember how he struggled when Terry Porter slowed the pace and demanded they get Shaq touches.

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    Shaq’s offensive strength isn’t the pick and roll Allen.

  • The Truth

    Howard even said that he wanted to play with Kobe and to be part of Lakers history would be a bonus! Kobe most likely has 2 years left in the league, 3 max so make it happen Lakers and give the overly hyped team the Heats a run for its moneys!

  • AiRsMiTh

    I don’t think I’m going to watch the NBA anymore

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    We’re just desperate to improve at PG Allen. Obviously we don’t wanna get rid of the twin towers, but D-Fish can NOT start again next year. He is to slow on defense and has no offense besides his shooting and he isn’t a good distributor on a team that could really use a good one. I wouldn’t be upset to see 1 of the PF’s go. (Odom, or Pau) But not both of them.

  • http://www.slamonline.com biged

    This discussion is getting dumb.

  • YoLu

    My bad. I hate when hypotheticals are made and I hypocritically made one. That seems to be what free agency and trade rumors are all about though.

  • http://www.offthebackboard.wordpress.com OTB

    I’m pretty sure the Lakers will end up with Howard, or Paul, but not both. There is no way the second GM of the two teams involved would OK getting back guys like Artest/Odom (assuming the other team takes Pau and Bynum) for their franchise player while being known as the GM that allowed the Lakers to kick off another dynasty with a lopsided trade.

    The KG trade in 2007 happened because Aingle and McHale were former teammates, which likely turned the tide towards the Celtics in a lot of ways. Likewise, the Gasol/Kwame trade stood ground because of Jerry West’s influence over the Grizzlies at the time. But Dell Demps and Otis Smith have no relation to anyone on the Lakers, nor do they have any connection with the Lakers as a franchise. One of the teams might crack and give away Howard or Paul, but both will not. As soon as Bynum is out the window as a trade piece, the motivation to trade with the Lakers significantly decreases.

  • http://www.facebook.com/joe.l.brewer3 BlackPhantom

    I wish we had enough pieces to acquire both Paul & Howard, but I’d still be satisfied if we were able to land either player. The big question is, which player would help LA’s title chances more?

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    (imo) This year Paul if Okafor comes with. In the future, Dwight, no question.

  • Jono

    Dear Dwight Howard & Chris Paul, please don’t ruin the NBA.

  • LA Huey

    The Lakers can make it happen so long as they hold the draft rights to CJ Paul and Jahaziel Howard. As Philo would say in some sort of sonnet “History always repeats itself”

  • Tofu

    unrealistic trade moves…bullcrap

  • http://www.facebook.com/joe.l.brewer3 BlackPhantom

    Yeah I think Dwight would probably be a better move for LA

  • http://google J-Ro

    If the Lakers get Paul,the Hornets dont get any PG in return. Man theyre gonna be sorry about trading away Collison.

  • Derek

    As I am a Laker fan this sounds great but the reason that Gasol and Bynum are in seperate trade rumours is because both Chris Paul and Dwight Howard do not want to stay and are not going to sign extensions. The Lakers offer one of their bigs for either Chris or Dwight seperately hoping that they will accept, considering they do not want the same thing to happen to them that LeBron did to the Cavs.

  • Derek

    Dwight is probably more likely going to be going to the Lakers than Chris if either would be considering Dwight is a big and the Lakers are offering a big and Dwight wants to go to L.A.

  • #6marjons

    i dont like the nba anymore

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    One less idiot to worry about.

  • robb

    Honestly with that mediocre coach the Lakers got, they need the most talented players if they want to be successful. If they get both players, Mike Brown can do what he does best (besides leaving his mouth open when a questionable foul is called): “Yeah Kobe shoot the ball. Dwight, yeah Dwight block that dude. Hey Chris, nice job distributing the ball there. Good game y’all.”

  • BAYLORBEARS2012

    I think we all know that CP3 has made up his mind and wants to go to the Knicks. Dwight is a possibility, but he could make a case for the most hated player next to LeBron imo lol. Also when you analyze the roster, outside of Kobe, there is nothing to look forward to in the future. If D12 probably went to Lakers, they’d be giving away probably Bynum who is their potential star in the future along with Odom and some other scrubs and picks. Gasol and Bryant are clearly on the downsides of their career and those three cannot do it alone, as depicted in the NBA Finals where the Miami big 3 lost in 6 to a well-rounded and tamed Mavericks. Heck people said that the Miami big 3 were gona win a crapload of rings. But they realize that there is something called a bench and they need supporting players to take some of the slack away. If I were Dwight, I would want to test the waters of free agency and see what other options there are. If I were the Orlando GM, I would wait and see what else is available later on in the year. theres no rush to trade your best player lol.

    PS: These are teams that I feel can make a legitimate run for D12 come free agency: New Jersey, Boston, NYK (that is if they dont get CP3) and Clippers. All these teams have cap space (boston being the exception; however a chunk of their roster is finished their final year of contract in 2012, thus leaving space for them to sign D12 to a maximum level contract)

  • ClydeSays

    Can’t see how the Lake Show swings both, but we’ll see. Interested to see how Mike Brown does in LA. He seemed to have no control of LBJ at times in Cle. How does he deal with Kobe?

  • golakeshow

    This is great. To all of you crazy dudes out their chew on this. CP3 at pg. Mamba at sg. Odom at PF. D12 at Center and artest. why wouldn’t these trades go down. Bynum for Howard. Pau for CP3? This team would clearly win the title. An why the hell did you bring the Thunder and Bulls into this. I just hope the Lakers don’t throw a huge party at the staples center like the heat did. This will happen if Kupchak is smart.

  • BigBlue

    this just cant happen, not because of financial reasons or the trading value of the players in question, but because it will reinforce the fact that some teams have so much more oppurtunitys to succeed than others in proffesional sports. there will be too much outrage from smaller market owners and the public in general that the lakers, who already have some of the greatest dynastys in basketball history, continue to get shot after shot at creating these dynastys.

  • http://slamonline.com Tae

    Damn im tired of teams tryna get these video game rosters. Im a Lakers fan, but no deal. Keep wat we have n add a few pieces and we’re good for 11-12

  • http://www.KBV4.com KBV4

    Nah B

  • Cool Dude

    It is possible. Gasol + artest or brown for CP3 and Bynum + Odom for D12 is better than pretty much any deal other teams can offer.

  • Holiday

    Wow Pau for CP3 and Bynum for Howard… Straight across? I knew Lakers fans were ignorant and arrogant, but that is completely delusional!!!!

  • Hobbes

    Trade Drew for D12, keep Pau and get Baron Davis, Grant Hill or Tmac.

  • Travesty

    Anyone else thinking that there will be some backlash from players in regards to the hardliners during the lockout? Not just in terms of free agents signings, but also with players signing extensions and superstars forcing their way out of teams. Just a thought.

  • Hobbes

    Yeah CP3 to NYC then Knicks can make Bron the king never won a ring period.

  • Justin

    The Lakers will get Howard but they will not get both. CP3 is going to the Knicks in a year so just end that part of it right there. And I really wish people would stop saying Jerry West was involved in the Lakers/Grizzlies trade for Gasol. He was NOT the GM and didn’t even know about the trade until after it had happened.

  • BBaller

    I loathe the lakers but anything will do to prevent the worst “team” in 25 years the Heat from winning a chip. A shortened season is definitely in their favor.I never want Lebron to win unless it’s in a Cavs uniform.Howard please join the Spurs and the ultimate twin towers will prevent that despicable , arrogant Heat team from winning anything

  • Justin

    I’m with you BBaller. I don’t loathe the Lakers but I don’t want them to win because I don’t want the stupid “now Kobe is just as good as MJ” discussions to get going again. I don’t want the Heat to win because Lebron is the biggest girl on the planet. I don’t want the Knicks to win because I hate the way Stoudemire and Anthony handled their own situations in Phoenix and Denver. I’ll take a Dallas repeat or a Bulls win though

  • ethan

    Yeah no way the L owned hornets is gonna let that happen

  • Daniel

    There is one reason it won’t happen: Gasol and Magic execs + coaching staff have bad blood. If Magic would consider Gasol in a group trade it would still be near impossible, but capable with a little business magic. Add on top of that Gasol’s chemistry issues and age and it just doesn’t make sense unless he was the guy you really wanted. Clippers actually seem like the most probable to pull it off, but even than probably in two trades over two seasons, IF they are successful enough after the first trade to still be attractive.

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