Thursday, January 19th, 2012 at 8:35 am  |  43 responses

Post Up: Federal Holiday

Washington upsets OKC, Mr. Big Shot rides again, and the Spurs and Nuggets win in OT.

by Abe Schwadron | @abe_squad

Kevin Durant played his high school ball in Rockville, Maryland, just a few miles north of where I played mine (okay, so it was only JV, whatever) and less than a half-hour from the Verizon Center, depending on your mode of transportation. So when KD comes back to Washington, it’s a big deal. He’s not shy about where he’s from, nor is he shy about spanking his home town team. That backdrop only added to the shock behind the biggest upset of the NBA season so far, as the 1-12 Wizards outlasted the 12-2 Thunder. How did it happen? I have no idea. Find out below, along with recaps of the ten other games from last night, including the return of Mr. Big Shot for some late-night drama.

Wizards 105, Thunder 102

Yeahhh, buddy. That’s right, my very own Washington Wizards, owners of the L’s worst record, beat the League-leading Oklahoma City Thunder. It wasn’t pretty early on, and it wasn’t a done deal until the final buzzer sounded, but a win is a win, and I speak for all of D.C. when I say, we’ll take it. John Wall continued his stellar play recently, posting 25 points, 8 assists and 7 rebounds, Nick Young scored 19 of his 24 in the second half, and Jordan Crawford poured in 18 off the bench. The Wizards took advantage of 21 OKC turnovers and came back from a 12-point deficit. All this despite Andray Blatche being in the starting lineup (fine, he had 12 points and 10 boards). For Oklahoma City, it was the Russell Westbrook and Kevin Durant show, as always. Russ had 36 points (14-26 shooting) and Durant had 33 (11-24 FG, 2-10 on threes). The rest of the OKC starters: 8 points combined. They allowed the Wiz to hang around thanks to poor rebounding and lights-out shooting from Washington in the second half. In the final few minutes, though, the Thunder refused to let this one go. Or, perhaps, the Wizards tried very badly to give it up. OKC started fouling with about a minute left, and Washington missed 8 free throws in the fourth quarter (Young, the NBA’s No. 1 free throw shooter coming in, missed 3 in the game), allowing the Thunder to creep back to within 3 points with 5 seconds to play and possession. Durant launched a deep three at the buzzer—and it looked pure—but it hit back iron and the Wiz came away with the win. The awesome, unbelievable win. Yeah, it’s only one game, but let a guy cherish one, please. Washington played with guts after a sloppy first quarter and pulled out a game they should have never had a chance at. Another DMV native comes to town on Friday, as Ty Lawson and the Nuggets invade D.C.

Spurs 85, Magic 83 (OT)

Gary Neal hit a three-pointer to break an 81-81 tie with under a minute to play in overtime, and Von Wafer could have tied it again, but couldn’t convert the free throw on a potential three-point play, and the Spurs escaped Orlando with a slim victory. And yes, I just talked about Gary Neal and Von Wafer deciding a game between two 10-win NBA teams. It was as weird for me to type it as it was for you to read it, trust me. JJ Redick—a familiar name—had a good look at a game-winning three-ball, but he took too long to load up, and the buzzer sounded just before he could get the shot off. In fairness, it was the superstars that led the way for most of the contest: Dwight Howard had 24 points, 25 boards and 3 blocks for the Magic, while Tony Parker had 25 (16 in the fourth quarter and OT) and 9 assists and Tim Duncan had 17 and 10 boards for San Antonio. Orlando had its 5-game winning streak snapped, while the Spurs finally won a road game after 10 straight L’s away from home, dating back to last year.

Nuggets 108, Sixers 104 (OT)

Once upon a time, Andre Miller was baller-blocking Jrue Holiday on the Sixers’ roster. Last night in Philly, Miller was a problem of a whole other kind, leading his Denver Nuggets to a hard-fought victory in overtime—handing the Sixers their first home loss of the season. Miller scored a season-high 28 to go with 10 assists and 8 rebounds, and he put away Philadelphia with the game-tying bucket in regulation, the go-ahead basket in the extra period (with 42.9 seconds to play) and the game-sealing steal, on a bad Holiday pass. Nene scored 20 points and had 14 rebounds, as the Nuggs rebounded from a 14-point deficit at one point early and survived 27 fast break points from the Sixers. It was a crazy back-and-forth, uptempo game, as Philly stormed back from down 10 in the fourth quarter, and could have won the game had Andre Iguodala (11 points, 10 rebounds, 9 assists) not missed one of his two free throws with 4 seconds remaining in regulation. Philly (now 10-4) got big performances from Evan Turner (20 points, 11 rebounds) and Thad Young (22 points) off the bench, but it wasn’t enough to beat the freakishly similar Nuggets (now 10-5).

Celtics 96, Raptors 73

How do you snap a five-game losing streak? Play Toronto, of course. Gary Forbes led the Raptors in scoring, with 18 points, and DeMar Derozan was the only Toronto starter in double figures, with 11, as the team shot 38 percent from the field for the game. Boston cruised to the victory, but at a price. Rajon Rondo appeared to fall hard on his wrist, and though he told reporters he’s “day-to-day,” it was a scary fall. Luckily, before he departed with the injury in the third quarter, he had time to rack up 21 points on 7-of-8 shooting to lead the Celitcs. And he won style points during his post-game remarks with the coolest hat ever. Boston also got 15 points from Kevin Garnett, while Paul Pierce shot just 3-10 for 8 points and Ray Allen had only 6, but that was largely due to the reserves taking over to finish things out in the blowout.

Nets 107, Warriors 100

Once the Nets heard about the Wizards’ win, they knew they had to capitalize on the upside down day, so they went out and beat the Warriors for their first home win of the season (4-11 overall). New Jersey did it behind a dominant backcourt performance from Deron Williams (24 points, 10 assists, 8 boards) and rookie MarShon Brooks (22/6/8). Here’s a stat that I guarantee won’t surprise you: the Nets have all four of their wins when DWill and MarSwag both score 20 or more. New Jersey got a double-double from Kris Humphries (18/15) and overcame 18 turnovers to get the win. The Nets trailed by 3 headed into the fourth quarter, but with 3 minutes and change remaining had jumped out to a 105-96 lead, and held off the W’s in the waning moments. Monta Ellis had 30 points, 5 assists, 6 steals (and 1 block that led to this craziness) for Golden State, Dorell Wright pitched in 17, and GSW even outshot the Nets, at 51 percent on field goals, but had their two-game win streak snapped, and fell to 5-9 on the year.

Suns 91, Knicks 88

Rather than simply beat a team they are clearly better and more talented than, the Knicks and their fans spent pre-game, post-game and probably in-game wondering how the opponent’s best player would look in a New York uniform. That player—Steve Nash—went out and scored 26 points and dished out 11 assists as the Suns stopped a five-game skid and sent the Knicks to their fourth straight L. Shannon Brown (14 points) provided the dagger with a three-pointer from the corner (that took a garbage bounce, or two, before dropping) with under a minute to play to give Phoenix a 5-point lead, and New York once again was left wondering where it all went wrong. Maybe not for long, since that pesky 37 percent field goal shooting statistic had a lot to do with it. Nash’s ex-running mate Amar’e Stoudemire scored 23 to lead the Knicks, while Iman Shumpert had 20, but Carmelo Anthony finished with just 12 points on 5-for-22 shooting. This game featured a good matchup of bigs, as Tyson Chandler had 17 boards and 9 points, and Marcin Gortat filed his usual double-double for PHX with 11 points and 12 rebounds. And hey, for what it’s worth, Nash says he likes playing at MSG, and is a free agent this summer. Then again, he turns 38 in February.

Hawks 92, Trail Blazers 89

Joe Johnson isn’t known for his defense, but he came up with a big-time steal with just over a minute to play to help the Hawks beat the Blazers and improve to 11-4 (7-1 at home). With Atlanta up 4, Johnson poked the ball free from Wesley Matthews, then hit a wide-open Jeff Teague for a dunk and the Hawks held on from there. Johnson also had 24 points, even after missing his first five shots of the game. The Blazers went up by 1 on a Gerald Wallace bucket in the third quarter, before Atlanta went on a 14-0 run to close out the quarter and seize control. Vince Vaughn and Ben Stiller looked riveted by the action. Jamal Crawford led the Blazers in scoring in his return to Atlanta, with 22 points, but Portland shot 38 percent from the field and made just 5 of 19 threes. LaMarcus Aldridge had 20 and 11, but didn’t look comfortable down the stretch—a credit to Atlanta’s frontline D. Meanwhile, Josh Smith continued his hot start with 17 points, 11 boards, 3 blocks, 3 assists and 2 steals. On a freaky play, Tracy McGrady poked Nicolas Batum in the eye and he had to be taken to the hospital. Ouch.

Grizzlies 93, Hornets 87

The Grizzlies have been through a lot, with injuries, trades and adjusted expectations, but finally, mercifully, they are back above .500, after beating the Hornets last night to get to 7-6. And while Rudy Gay (12 points) might be the team’s top option, you can’t say enough about the way Marc Gasol and Mike Conley have played over the last five games or so. Gasol scored all 22 of his points in the first three quarters, and also had 12 rebounds and 7 assists (!) while MC11 scored 18 points to go with 10 dimes. Memphis shot 49 percent and never trailed, while New Orleans trotted out its seventh different starting lineup in the last 14 games, and fell to 1-7 at home. Jarret Jack scored 27 points, Trevor Ariza had 18 and Jason Smith had 14 points (plus 2 blocks, both on Gay, within 3 seconds of each other), but Chris Kaman and Greivis Vasquez were a combined 4-of-13 off the bench.

Timberwolves 93, Pistons 85

Detroit led by 6 at halftime, and Tayshaun Prince scored 29 points, but Kevin Love and, yes, Ricky Rubio, were just too much in the second half for the Pistons, who faded late, falling to 3-12 on the year. Love finished with 20 points and 17 rebounds, and Rubio had a stat-stuffing night, despite shooting just 1-8 from the field: 9 points, 8 assists, 7 rebounds, 6 steals. And for your nightly Rubio highlight, this time I give you a ridiculous (and arguably unnecessary) behind-the-back move to the hoop. As for the rest of the players who participated last night, the Wolves leaned on their defense, curiously enough, to shut down Prince in the fourth quarter (only 4 points) and turn Detroit’s errors into buckets (23 points off 18 Piston turnovers). Greg Monroe had 13 points and 12 boards in 28 minutes before fouling out. Dude looked frustrated. I would be, too. Detroit’s point guards had horrible nights, as rookie Brandon Knight, the starter, shot 3-for-11 with 7 points, and Rodney Stuckey backed him up with 4-12 shooting (10 points).

Kings 92, Pacers 88

Sacramento snapped a three-game losing streak, outscoring the Pacers 26-8 in the fourth quarter to overcome a 14-point deficit. On a night when Tyreke Evans couldn’t hit water from a boat (3-of-14 shooting, 8 points), Marcus Thornton scored 17 points and DeMarcus Cousins had 13 points and 19 rebounds to lead the Kings to their fifth win of the season (10 losses). Indiana came in winners of three straight and every starter scored in double figures, led by 16 from Danny Granger and Darren Collison, but the Pacers shot just 1-for-13 from three-point range and gave up a ridiculous 30 offensive rebounds (12 to DMC alone). In case anyone still cares, The Jimmer continues to struggle mightily—he missed all four of his shots in six minutes of playing time, and he’s shooting sub-35 percent for the year.

Clippers 91, Mavericks 89

For one night, we owe Chauncey Billups an apology. Because it’s easy to forget, between all the contract quibbles, bad shots, over-dribbling, and whatever else, that this dude is clutch as all hell, and equally as fun to watch in big moments. He morphed back into Mr. Big Shot again last night, drilling the game-winning shot from beyond the arc with 1 tick left on the clock—and he did it moments after Jason Terry provided two ballsy three-pointers of his own to pull the Mavs in front. (I was hoping JET’s three would be the game-winner, secretly, so we could talk about how bad the Clippers’ defense on that play was, but alas, Chauncey ruined it.) The officials tried their darndest to sap all the drama out of the arena by reviewing every last out-of-bounds call, but in the end, there’s really no other way to say it than “that game was awesome.” The Mavs suffer yet another agonizing loss, dropping to 8-7, while LAC improves to 7-1 at home, and 8-4 overall. Billups took center stage at crunch time, but it was Mo Williams’ 26 points that kept the Clippers afloat, teaming up with Blake Griffin and his 14 points, 17 rebounds and 7 assists. Chris Paul missed his third straight game nursing a hammy, but lob-buddy DeAndre Jordan didn’t seem to mind, finishing with 19 and 9. Los Angeles found enough firepower—and, more importantly, defensive effort—without CP3 to overcome 17 points in the first half from Delonte West (a season-high, but he had 0 in the second half) and 17 from Dirk Nowitzki.

Line of the Night: About a dozen guards flirted with triple-doubles last night (plus Blake), and Dwight Howard did all he could in an OT loss to San Antonio, but I’m giving last night’s award to Andre Miller, who low-key willed the Nuggs to a win over the Sixers, with 28 points, 10 assists, 8 rebounds and 2 steals off the bench.

Moment of the Night: Mr. Big Shot one-ups the JET, and lives up to his name.

Dunk of the Night, Take One: Johnathan Hildred Wall, rising for the ferocious finish.

Dunk of the Night, Take Two: Blake Austin Griffin, dropping the hammer on the break.

Tonight: A light night—only 3 games—but I can guarantee we’ll have plenty to talk about tomorrow morning, as the Lakers take on the Heat at 8 on TNT, and the still-unbelievable Jazz get a visit from the tired World Champs in game two of the doubleheader. If anyone wants to talk Hornets-Rockets, well, bless your heart.

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  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    If anyone can look at the replay of the play that gave the Clippers the ball, it looks like the ball bounces in bounds after Terry touches it, and it definitely hits Mo Williams before it hits anything out of bounds. It looked like, despite the use of replay, the refs screwed dallas.

  • Myung

    A lot of unexpected results last night. They’re no longer the Wizards. They’re the WWizards (two W’s). Congrats, Abe.

  • Myung

    And sure, it’s a minor detail that the season started on Christmas (haha), but as of January 19th, my Hawks are in sole possession of the 2nd seed in the Eastern Conference (and the third best record in all of basketball). We’ve had a cupcake schedule for the most part (which can also be said for Philly), but then again, we do have legit wins against Chicago, Miami, Portland, and Minnesota. Go HAWKS!

  • dumbfunded

    Really sad that Rubio is now taking 3 steps too. That ish wouldn’t fly in FIBA!

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    You don’t understand the new travel rule.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Actually Abe Joe Johnson has long been considered one of the better defensive players in the League, particularly when you’re talking about guys who can also score points. And I mean considered by coaches and players, not so much by the media.

  • JoeMaMa

    Wow, it works! It REALLY works!!! ~Ha Ha, yes….I’m glad you believe~ Boy, am I glad I took that wrong turn down that deserted street and found this lamp! ~Yes, very nice. Now, what will be your second wish, Master Saunders?~

  • http://nba.com GP23

    Europeans don’t travel, it’s the thing they master by the age of 6!
    Rubio did not travel at all last night.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    ^ sarcasm if you didn’t know dumbfunded (also it’s founded, but i guess when you’re dumb, you’re dumb) – the international guys are basically the reason they changed the travel rule to inhibit the “gather step” (euro step)

  • http://nba.com GP23

    I’ll re-phrase my last comment.
    I mean, “Rubio doesn’t travel. it’s the thing he mastered by the age of 6!”
    Still, crazy to think he became pro at 14 !!

  • Fat Lever

    Shout out to Dre Dala for losing the game last night. He hits both gimmies, Sixers win.

  • Showmeyourwits

    I wouldn’t say Dallas got screwed- the issue was that they originally called it off Terry, and I don’t think it was clear enough to overturn it. Blake needs to start making free throws though or teams are just going to put him on his ass every night.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Do you have access to that replay? I wasn’t watching the game on DVR or else I would know for sure. But It looked pretty clear that it bounced in bounds after Terry touched it. And if so, then it definitely hit Mo Williams before he went out of bounds.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    JJ is an underrated defender. A couple times last night on switches, he did a good job guarding LA in the post.
    Also, am I the only one noticing that JSmith’s jumpshot has been falling at a consistent basis this season?

  • Showmeyourwits

    I don’t, but I don’t remember it staying inbounds, although if it was going out Mo should’ve just let it go so maybe you’re right.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    idk if you noticed but during the play, Terry points at how it hit Williams when he went out of bounds, saying it bounced in and should have stll been off him. Me and my girl both thought it bounced in bounds when we were watching the replay, and Terry’s reaction said the same thing. I don’t even think those refs paid attention to if it did or didn’t. They were just looking at who touched it last off of the actual pass.

  • http://slamonline.com/ Abe Schwadron

    Right or wrong on that particular call, it’s concerning how willing officials are increasingly willing to make an arbitrary call and assume they will get the chance to go look at the replay, so they don’t care if they get it right on the first whistle. I know we end up getting the “right” call, but it slows down the game, and when you’re trying to finish off a 1500-word Post Up…sike, great game. Also…nbk has a girl !

  • Enigmatic

    JTaylor – FYI I responded to your Jabari Parker question in that high school top 50 post.
    I’m not on The Post Up as much as I’d like to be this season.
    Partly because I don’t have league pass so I miss most games and partly because if I comment from my computer at work the comments rarely post due to firewalls and such and I hate using my phone to comment.
    But glad to see everyone else still on here.

  • http://www.uhlife.com/basketball/profile.aspx?PlayerID=3356&SeasonDivisionID=30 nbk

    girlfriend* lol the girl doesn’t come till March. Her opinion atleast 2 years after that lol

  • http://nba.com GP23

    Congrats on the girl nbk

  • http://www.uhlife.com/basketball/profile.aspx?PlayerID=3356&SeasonDivisionID=30 nbk

    appreciate it GP, not celebrating till that thing comes out though, it’s gotta have the opportunity to make me totally miserable before I get too happy lol

  • http://www.nyill.wordpress.com Enigmatic

    Not celebrating until “that thing” comes out lol.
    Soop what’s the due date?
    If she’s born on March 9th you gotta honor Biggie!
    Make Notorious her middle name or something lol.

  • Myung

    As someone who’s watched pretty much every game of Josh’s career, I would like to say I haven’t noticed the same thing you have, JTaylor. Even a dead clock shows the right time twice a day. Even an occasional Josh Smith jumper will fall in from time to time. I’ve been notoriously hard on Josh throughout his career, but even I would say he deserves to be an All Star this year. That being said, he really should retire his jump shot for good, just like LeBron really should shave his head.

  • http://www.uhlife.com/basketball/profile.aspx?PlayerID=3356&SeasonDivisionID=30 nbk

    The 2nd. Hopefully she’s born on the leap day, save me money on birthday presents (just kidding)

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    Myung, HA! you’re probably right. I only get to see the Hawks on national tv, so I’m going off a small sample size.
    Enigmatic, same here. I decided to skip on LP this season because there are games on national TV damn near every night (NBA TV-monday/tuesday/saturday. ESPN-wednesday/friday,and TNT-thursday). That’s more than enough NBA games to quench my thirst.

  • Showmeyourwits

    I feel like Smoove has been freed up without Horford in there. He’s definitely stepped his game up and seems more focused. Love to see guys play to their potential.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Fat Lever
    Give me your impression of Igoudala as a player

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    I agree with Wits. Both Joe and Josh have looked better without Al.

  • http://slamonline house

    Maybe NBA stars travel so much on court because they earn so many frequent flyer miles off of it?

  • Myung

    No problem, JTaylor. If you saw us on national TV last night, it was probably one of the few Hawks wins you’ve ever witnessed (last season’s Orlando series, notwithstanding). We have a terrible record when we play nationall televised games. I wasn’t one of these bandwagon Hawks fans who jumped on board around 2008. I’ve been going to Hawks games since the mid 80′s and even during Josh’s rookie season in 2004, I yelled, “Noooooo!” every time he jacked up a jump shot (it seems like the rest of Philips Arena caught on to the fact that he couldn’t shoot around 2009 and now everyone yells that out when he winds up for a jumper, especially when he shoots a 3 pointer). It was painfully obvious that he was not meant to shoot outside of 5 feet of the rim. If you need any more proof, look at his FT%. An uncontested shot from 15 feet away, and Josh is shooting UNDER 50% this season. It’s one of life’s great mysteries that a cat who can’t hit his FT’s has attempted 642 three point shots in his career (he’s connected on 179 of them, which is actually the more shocking stat). Here’s my take on Josh (long time SLAMonline readers have heard me say some form of this every year): Terrible shooter. Terrible dribbler. Terrible decision maker. Pouts a lot. TERRIFIC shot blocker. Amazing dunker. Very effective going left (his strong hand). And easily one of the top 5 ATHLETES in the entire NBA (he hasn’t fallen off athletically, despite this being his 8th NBA season). That’s the most astounding part of this whole thing. He has a low basketball IQ. He is not a good shooter or dribbler…yet he is playing like one of the top 12 players in the Eastern Conference this season, based 95% on his athleticism alone. Isn’t that crazy? Could you imagine how good he could be if he could, you know, make good decisions and/or shoot the rock?

  • http://www.slamonline.com Bowen’s Bowtie Collection

    When joe johnsons shot is falling, opponents can’t do anything about it, very kobe like. Josh smith played great defense on aldridge. Zaza played big and smart. With boston falling apart, san antonio stands out, especially ginobili and duncan, aged vets who take great care of themselves. I also would like to give speights some credit, he’s played well this season.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    I said the same thing last night Bowen. When the jumper is falling, he’s unguardable because his handle his so nice, his post game is on point and he can find teammates.
    Conversely, when the jumper isn’t falling his entire game suffers because he lacks top shelf finishing ability and quickness.
    Which is why I’ve always believed the Hawks should run offense that gets him early open jumpers to get his rhythm instead of having him work off the bounce so often late in the shot clock. It’s never happened though.

  • Showmeyourwits

    As odd as this is going to sound, I think having TMac helps them in that respect because he can create shots and finish- provided it doesn’t require that much athleticism to do. This Hawks team really intrigues me.

  • http://www.uhlife.com/basketball/profile.aspx?PlayerID=3356&SeasonDivisionID=30 nbk

    My issue with Joe Johnson offensively, is that he is absolutely reliant on 18-20 foot long range 2′s to open up the rest of his offense. He will never be a consistently dominant force like that.

  • Fat Lever

    AllenP, do you really have the time to listen to me rant? Just kidding. I think he is a very skilled player, he does a lot of things well, especially defensively. I love his value as a defensive wing stopper(just ask Melo this year). Offensively, he tries to play hero ball too much. If he would settle in and let Jrue/Lou/EB/ET be the main offensive players and not try and constantly jack up long jump shots, when he is by no means a solid jump shooter, then I wouldn’t mind. As a Sixer fan and watching him since his rookie year, he’s a very good all around player but by no means should he be a primary focus on offense. Also, his lack of solid free throw shooting has either cost us outright 2-3 games this year or prevented us from putting us in a position to make it a one possession game. I’m not going to bring in his salary into the discussion, only because it’s not really relevant to the discussion of his talents.

  • Showmeyourwits

    nbk I agree completely. I feel like with the pieces the Hawks have, they’d be better served running a system similar to the one in Phoenix that got JJ his ridiculous contracts. Teague/Smith would be the poor man’s Nash/Stoudemire. Williams/Ivan could be Marion (a strecth) and the wouldn’t have to run iso’s for Joe anymore because he’d be open or in position to get good looks.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Ok Fat, I agree with your assessment.
    With that said, where would you put the ceiling of a big three composed of Rubio, Love and Igoudala?
    I see them as incredibly offensively challenged, but I’m curious about what an Igoudala fan thinks.

  • dumbFUNDED

    nbk you talk ish. The new rule says 2 steps, Rubio was clearly taking three steps after stopping the dribble

  • b. angus

    i just wanted 2 say…wth kinda nick is “marswag”…that’s on that corny-ass bullsheet, smh…swag is dead

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    The step that start before the dribble is literally concluded is not considered a step. The old rule said one step, but everyone called it two. The new rule says two steps, but its really three. (talking off of a dribble only)

  • http://Slamonline.com Caboose

    nbk knows what he’s talking about. dumbFUNDED, your name is appropriate. And I do want to kinda call people out who said Ricky Rubio would struggle for a variety of reasons. Bad defense? He’s 4th in the league in steals. Can’t shoot? Over 40% from beyond the arc. Can’t finish? Check his highlights, he’s fine. Bad leader? T’Wolves are finally playing like a team. Skills wouldn’t translate? Well, I think that’s enough.

  • Fat Lever

    Allen, I think that’s a solid trio and don’t think it would be that offensively challenged, mainly because oaf rubios ability to set up his teammates in the right spots. Although I think dre has more value in the eastern conference because of wade, lbj, melo, pierce, jj, and granger. There are better offensive wing players in the east. Who would you propose the sixers get in return for dre?

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/officerbarbrady what

    Josh and Joe are playing better right now because they are trying harder, not because Al was getting in their way before. I doubt they can keep this up the whole season, but it’s fun while it lasts.