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Wednesday, January 11th, 2012 at 8:35 am  |  83 responses

Post Up: First 48

Kobe doin’ work, Warriors outlast the Heat, and Washington finally wins a game.

by Abe Schwadron | Photo by Noah Graham/NBAE via Getty Images

Wow, what a night of NBA action. My beloved Wizards got win No. 1, the defending champs looked the part in Detroit, Andrew Bogut came back to get the Bucks on track, the MVP bested Ricky Rubio, Rip City beat Lob City, Kobe put up the season’s highest point total and to cap it all off, the Warriors beat Miami in overtime behind a big game from Nate Robinson, of all guys. Without further ado, I present to you 11 games of basketball goodness.

Sixers 112, Kings 85

Make it six wins in a row for the Sixers, who shot 57 percent from the field as a team and got 21 points, 10 rebounds and 3 blocks from Elton Brand, who came in averaging just 8 points per night. Brand had three baskets during an 11-0 run that gave Philadelphia a 63-42 lead in the third quarter. It ballooned to as many as 34 in the second half, as the Kings shot just 4-of-19 from three-point range. Evan Turner has quietly developed into a quality option off the bench. He’s been upping his play this season on both ends of the court, as last night he flirted with a triple-double: 16 points, 10 rebounds, 8 assists in 34 minutes. Conversely, Jimmer Fredette got his first career start, but didn’t do much with it other than one incredibly deep three, scoring just 7 points on 2-of-7 shooting—he also had 3 assists and 3 turnovers. DeMarcus Cousins led Sacramento with 17 and 10, and Tyreke Evans chipped in 15, but the pair combined to shoot just 13-for-28. The Sixers are in New York tonight, but could be without center Spencer Hawes, who did not play in the second half because of a strained lower back.

Wizards 93, Raptors 78

Hallelujah! Just a couple days after we re-named them the Lizards, the Wizards get their first win of the season, moving to a still-terrible but no-longer-winless 1-8. And all it took was what Wizards fans have been bugging about for almost two seasons—a shake-up in the starting lineup. Out with Andray Blatche and Rashard Lewis, in with Trevor Booker and rookie Chris Singleton. Neither of the newbies has much of an offensive game, but their hustler’s attitude rubbed off on the rest of the Wiz, and while both Blatche and Lewis also have nagging injuries, we can only hope Flip Saunders sticks with this lineup. Nick Young and Lewis each scored 15 points to lead Washington, but it was a balanced attack from the start, and the Wizards avoided being the sixth team since the 2002-03 season to lose nine straight to open a season, despite a brutal shooting night from John Wall (3-for-12, but did have 8 points, 9 assists and 3 blocks). Toronto shot just 4-for-20 from three-point land and turned the ball over 22 times. DeMar Derozan scored only 11 points on 4-of-16 shooting from the floor, plus 3 turnovers, while Andrea Bargnani paced the Raps with 22 points. Washington doesn’t get much time to celebrate, though, heading to Chicago to face DRose and Co. tonight at the United Center before a home-and-home with Philly. But maybe, just maybe, the Wizards won’t be a complete joke anymore. And maybe Andray Blatche sucks a little less coming off the bench.

Rockets 82, Bobcats 70

Houston snapped a four-game losing streak behind a career-high 20 points from rookie Chandler Parsons (in his second career NBA start) and 17 from Kevin Martin. Charlotte shot just 34 percent from the field, made only 1 of 13 three-pointers, and was outrebounded 57-44 on the night. Parsons scored six of the Rockets’ first eight points, shot 9-for-16 overall and grabbed 7 boards, after averaging a little over 5 points per game coming in. Kyle Lowry provided 8 assists to go with 11 rebounds and 6 points, and Jordan Hill had a double-double (12 and 12) off the bench. Houston didn’t play great, but benefited from a brutal night from the Bobcats, who were led in scoring by Byron Mullens’ 15 points and 10 boards as a reserve, while Boris Diaw was ice cold—he shot 2-for-14 and finished with 4 points.

Mavericks 100, Pistons 86

Dallas got back to .500 thanks to a date with the friendly Pistons, who never led in this game and turned the ball over 20 times, including 6 from rookie Brandon Knight. The Mavs got 18 points from Dirk Nowitzki, 14 from Shawn Marion, 11 from Vince Carter and 10 assists from Delonte West while shooting 55 percent as a team for the game and handing out 28 assists amongst one another. Dallas made eight straight shots to start the contest, opening up a 15-point advantage early in the first quarter, and the Mavs never looked back. In that first quarter, the Pistons had only two rebounds. Will Bynum was the high-point man for Detroit, with 20, but only two other Pistons players scored in double figures (Knight had 12 and Ben Gordon had 11) and not one guy had more than 4 assists or 7 boards.

Bucks 106, Spurs 103

Richard Jefferson missed a decent look at a three in the waning seconds, and the Bucks took out the Spurs in Andrew Bogut’s return to the lineup after missing four games while tending to personal matters back in Australia. Stephen Jackson welcomed him back by scoring 34 points of his own on 12-17 FG and dishing out 8 assists. Bogut and Brandon Jennings each turned in a double-double—Bogut had 14 points and 11 rebounds, while Young Money went for 15 and 11 assists—prompting Gregg Popovich to call this Spurs team the “worst defensive team” he’s ever had. With the Bucks up 104-103, the Spurs had a chance to take the lead with just under a minute left, but as Tony Parker initiated the offense, Jennings poked the ball loose to Jackson, who flicked it back to BJ for a wide-open fast break flush to give Milwaukee the final, three-point lead. Then, Bogut drew an offensive foul on Tim Duncan (20 points, 8 rebounds, 7 assists, 3 blocks) and the Spurs were sunk. Parker had 22 points and 8 assists, and rookie Kawhi Leonard scored a career-high 19 points on 9-of-12 shooting off the bench, but it wasn’t enough to beat the Bucks, dropping San Antonio to 6-4.

Bulls 111, Timberwolves 100

In what was billed as a matchup of the MVP vs. the up-and-comer at his same position, Ricky Rubio played admirably, but Derrick Rose was just too much. Rubio played 36 minutes and racked up 13 points and 12 assists (5 turnovers), while DRose went for 31 points and 11 dimes (his seventh career 30/10 game), helping the Bulls separate from the Wolves in the final few minutes of crunch time. At this point, Minnesota looks destined to be the League’s “best worst team”—that is, the Wolves compete in every game, make things tough on the opposition, and keep it close for most of the contest, but ultimately take the loss. It’s a shame, since they’re so fun to watch (see here, via Ricky). Kevin Love had 20 and 13, and Luke Ridnour scored 22 points, but the Wolves were outrebounded 47 to 30 and Luol Deng put up 21 points and 11 boards for Chicago. Rose gave the Bulls an eight-point advantage with 2:30 to play with a floater in the lane, finally putting the game out of reach. He also rained in 4 threes in this one, making up for the absence of his backcourt running mate Rip Hamilton, who remains sidelined with a sore groin.

Thunder 100, Grizzlies 95

This is quickly becoming a nice little rivalry out west, on the heels of a fantastic playoff series last spring. Last time these two met, Russell Westbrook shot 0-for-13 from the field and scored just 4 points. This time was a bit different, as Russ shot 12-for-20 and cashed in for 30 points, to go with 22 from Kevin Durant, as the Thunder beat the Grizzlies in Memphis for the second time this season. Oklahoma City has won four in a row, taking this one in a close battle—neither team led by more than 8 points at any point in the game. Quincy Pondexter hit a corner three to bring the Grizz to within 95-92 but the Thunder salted it away from the free throw line down the stretch. Marc Gasol had 20 points and 14 boards in the loss, and Mike Conley added 15 points and 10 assists.

Jazz 113, Cavaliers 105

Don’t look now, but Utah is 6-3, and 5-0 at home, after Al Jefferson dominated the Cavs frontline to the tune of 30 points on 13-of-17 shooting and 12 rebounds, plus 2 blocked shots. Cleveland got within six points midway through the fourth quarter, but Jefferson, Josh Howard and CJ Miles hit clutch buckets down the stretch to hold off the Cavs, who were led by Antawn Jamison’s 22 points (although he needed 18 shots to get there). Rookie Kyrie Irving looked good yet again, scoring 20 points to go with 5 assists, and he also made a ridiculous spinning layup. Cleveland just couldn’t compete with the Jazz up front—in addition to Jefferson’s work, Paul Millsap had 19 points and Derrick Favors had 14 off the bench. As a team, Utah shot a ridiculous 59 percent from the field.

Trail Blazers 105, Clippers 97

Portland and Los Angeles played almost dead even in three of the four quarters, but in the second, the Blazers scored 30 points to the Clippers’ 21, and that was enough of a lead to sustain them through the rest of the game. Gerald Wallace continues to be the emotional face of the Blazers, and he scored 20 points, prompting the Portland faithful to chant his nickname, “Crash,” in the third quarter. All five Blazers starters scored in double figures, including 18 and 7 from LaMarcus Aldridge, and as a team, they shot 51 percent on field goals. Some of the Clippers’ decisions late in the game were head-scratching, from lineups to specific plays, but Lob City managed to keep things close  thanks to 18 and 12 from Blake Griffin and a team-high 20 points by Caron Butler. Howeva! The Blazers held the Lobsters to just 8 fast break points, using tough-as-nails defense to lead to their own easy offense. Portland’s home court advantage is bordering on the ridiculous, as is their record (7-2, 6-0 at the Rose Garden), while the Clips slip to 4-3, and host Miami tonight at Staples Center. That’s one big meatball!

Warriors 111, Heat 106 (OT)

Speaking of home court advantage, you can put the Warriors in that discussion, too. Golden State added Miami to a list that already included Chicago and New York as Eastern Conference foes to come to Oakland and take home the L. The Heat, winners of three straight and 8 of 9 coming in, let the Warriors (on a 5-game losing streak) hang around, as they rallied from 17 down to take out Miami in overtime. All this, despite a monster first half from Dwyane Wade, who ended his day with 34 points, and another classic LeBron line of 26/11/7. In the clutch, though, it was the Warriors who had the unstoppable offense. Dorell Wright hit 6 three-pointers (20 points, 10 boards in all), Monta Ellis poured in 22 (including the game-clinching bucket in OT), David Lee had 20 and 14 (and even played good defense on LeBron’s final tying attempt at a three-ball) and Nate Robinson had 24 points, 5 assists, 4 rebounds and 4 steals in 36 minutes off the pine (wow!). Nate Rob provided a huge spark and the Warriors played inspired ball all the way, flying around on defense and picking apart Miami’s famed defense. But let’s not overreact, folks, it’s one game in a long season. The Heat will win again, ya know.

Lakers 99, Suns 83

Yeah, so that happened. Kobe Bryant scored a whole buttload of points. 48 to be exact. And for you all counting at home, that’s Bryant’s 108th career 40+ point game. He shot 18-for-31, part of the team’s 49 percent shooting on the night. Afterwards, he gave old buddy Shannon Brown a big hug (now of the Suns) and ran off to give his post-game press conference, during which he said: “Not bad for the seventh-best player in the league.” Someone didn’t read the SLAMonline Top 50! Steve Nash finished with 13 points and 8 assists, and Marcin Gortat had a big game with 16 points and 12 rebounds, but the Lakers won the rebounding battle 49-35 and led by as many as 16 points en route to their seventh win of the season. Predictably, the only other Lakers in double figures were Pau Gasol (16, plus 12 boards) and Andrew Bynum (12 and 8). The Lakers are at Utah and home to Cleveland before “Battle: Los Angeles” against the Clippers on Saturday. And lastly, from the sentences-that-make-me-laugh-at-3 a.m. department, via the AP: “The Lakers G Jason Kapono missed the game to be with his wife after she gave birth to twins and F-C Troy Murphy sat out with an upset stomach.”

Line of the Night: So many good ones to choose from (DRose, Evan Turner, Stephen Jackson, Al Jefferson, DWade, NateRob, Tim Duncan), but I have to give it to Kobe, who set the bar for this season with 48 points, plus 5 rebounds, 3 assists, 3 steals and only 2 turnovers in the Lakers’ win.

Moment of the Night: Kobe caps off his monster night with the reverse oop from Matt Barnes.

Dunk of the Night: Brandan Wright is still in the NBA, and he wants you to know that!

Drunk of the Night: These guys grabbed a beer, then grabbed a seat on the Mavs bench.

(H/T: Busted Coverage)

Tonight: Another 11-game night, which means by tomorrow afternoon I’m going to need a man-sized nap. ESPN has Mavs-Celtics and Heat-Clippers (that one’s gonna be a doozy). Plus, we get a pair of Eastern Conference matchups with intrigue, as Atlanta visits Indiana and the Sixers are in New York.

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  • http://www.fiba.com Darksaber

    Well, Kobe did his part in the build-up to the Jan 14 game against the Heat.
    The internet is about to break from all the opinions.

  • http://www.fiba.com Darksaber

    12% FG percentage in the 4th for Miami.
    Cue the ‘choker’ rants.

  • Arthur

    You’d want to be a brave man to sit down beside Delonte, who knows what could happen. Vince, not so much.

  • Fat Lever

    Those guys look like LMFAO’s stunt doubles, and not in a good way.

  • Theking06

    lol …. VC was looking for d security … lol.

  • http://www.optimabbc.be Max

    Philly is ballin’.
    And who said NateRob wasn’t a good pickup for the Warriors?

  • http://www.fiba.com Darksaber

    Fat: there’s a GOOD way to resemble those idiots?

  • Lew Alcindor

    Vinny the black needs to be fired early before he can mess up that team even more. Some of the coaching decisions late in the 3rd and into the 4th quarter was just mind boggling.

  • Fat Lever

    Well played Dark…Well played. You’re right, there is NO good way to resemble those guys.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Nick Tha Quick

    Hope SLAM got extra bandwidth today. Between Bron’s 4th quarter and Mamba’s 48, don’t think the internets will handle this today.

  • Lew Alcindor

    Minnie’s a good team that can give a fight to almost anybody, if only michael beasely was actually you know….great.

  • Fat Lever

    Hahahaha, Nick. Maybe each of those things are just accepted as normal now?

  • http://www.twitter.com/nflem41 Nicolas Fleming

    I was stuck covering a girl’s basketball game that was 16-9 at halftime. This is a varsity game. It’s amazing that I haven’t killed myself.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Wayno

    LOL @ the fans on the Mavs bench…VC looked very annoyed. Gerald Wallace is BALLIN right now. I love his game, he brings so much to the table night in and night out. Also, Kobe looked vintage last night…draining sick jumpers, driving, dunking, all while injured and not making any 3′s…I’d say he’s still got it. I felt bad for Grant Hill on those last 2 scoring plays.

  • http://nyill.wordpress.com Enigmatic

    What’s with “Vinny the black”?
    “Del” means “of”, not “the”, so it would be “Vinny of black”.

  • http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Marshon-Brooks-6347/playerblog/ nbk

    smh at what will potential become of today.

  • Mo

    LeBron is my guy and I’m still a huge fan but he needs to stop acting like a scary b**** when crunch time comes. If you scared, sit yo a$$ on the bench! But to sit by and watch the lead just wash away and do nothing and not take one shot in the 4th is rediculous. And I don’t want to hear the “I’m being a facilitator” crap. It was time for Lebron to go to work and get his own SHOT but instead, did nothing. He was just “out there.” Been down with the man since the day he came into the league but I dam near turned my “Fan Card” in last night. I just don’t get it. Not after the what happened in the Finals. But last night, it happened again. Still a fan but he’s starting to pis* me off now with this.

  • http://www.fiba.com Darksaber

    Here we go…..

  • LA Huey

    I kinda agree with Mo, here. I’ve been a big LBJ fan since ’03 and I love his game. But it irks me that he hasn’t come to grips with the fact that in crunch time, a superstar has got to look to shoot first and pass second. There is no defense in the world right now that can shut him down but he’s allowing that and putting the burden on his teammates to produce.

  • Mo

    Had to get that outta my sytsem. Last night brought up too many memories of last year’s Finals.

  • http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Marshon-Brooks-6347/playerblog/ nbk

    what LeBron needs to learn is how to play the same way in the 1st quarter as he does in the 4th. It’s still the same sport with the same rules and objectives, no reason to treat the 4th any different (other then being aware that you should be winning when the 4th ends. obviously)

  • Fat Lever

    Mo Williams, is that you?

  • LA Huey

    Who watched the Heat-Ws game? Can someone explain to me how the Warriors got FOUR guys to put up 20+ points? Was the Heat defense being lazy or was GState in Game Genie mode?

  • http://www.fiba.com Darksaber

    Krypto-Nate, Rush, David Lee and Dorrell sure willed their team to that win in the 2nd half. Nate on his own was entertaining as hell. (i’d add Monta for his D, but damn if he didn’t shoot a ton of bricks)
    Late in the shotclock deep three’s, freethrows, outlet passes, steals and lots of yapping with Wade. Fun times were had by all.

  • Justin G.

    Doesn’t matter if it’s been brought up a bunch of times. It bears repeating again. You never saw Jordan, Bird, Barkley…really any superstar shy away from the big shots at crunch time. Lebron wants to be in the GOAT discussion someday he’s going to have to watch tapes of how MJ did it. Kobe has disappeared in big games as well but for the most part he wants the ball too. Time for LBJ to nut up, stop passing the ball, and stop being afraid to miss the shots

  • Mo

    @ LA Huey – The Heat simply got lazy on defense. And coach Spo starting running crappy plays down the stretch. Where was the LeBron or Wade post ups Spo? He gets the blame for last night’s loss as well.

  • Heals

    Beantown sees you Nate! Good job Kobe now kids all over the world re going to be tearing wrist ligaments so they can shoot like you (ala MJ’s tongue out). CharlieV on the Det bench during/after the Wright dunk was funny too. Welcome to the season Wash, and lastly Uck You ESPN “Lebron Disappears.” C’mon with that BS stop trying to re-write reality by using inaccurate headlines to fit narratives that “trend.” During the highlight clip they show EVERY pass he made was to a wide open teammate who missed their shot (all with MIa up by around 7pts). That’s good basketball you cornballs…

  • Mo

    I’m sorry but you can say he’s passing to open teammates all you want, but to take “0″ shots in the 4th quarter while a 17 point lead evaporates is rediculous. I have no problem if he’s taking shots and missing them. At least TAKE THEM. Obviously your teammates don’t have it going if your team is losing a 17 point lead. I’m not hating on Bron, I’m a fan and he’s my favorite player. But he needs to stop this. How about trusting “YOURSELF” for a couple posessions down the stretch and not your teammates that were constantly missing shots at the rim.

  • Heals

    I hear ya Mo and agree alot I just think last night was different (until OT at least) and I simply LOATHE how ESPN jumps at the opportunity to do what they do with topics like Tebow, LBJ, etc. Oh yeah the cornballs jab was in ref to ESPN’s talking heads not your comments…

  • http://nba.com GP23

    Kobe was unreal last night, he looked like he was in his 81-point days..
    Oh, and Steve Nash is so bad on defense, its actually ridiculous, no effort at all. (But, he’s still great on O)
    No idea what happened with LeBron, but lets not keep going at him.
    Derrick Rose is the truth (see him cursing when he made that 3 at the end?) LOL
    Rubio should start now, dude is an assist machine
    Congrats Wizards…

  • http://www.optimabbc.be Max

    Lebron need to go HAM at the end of games like he did against Detroit in the playoffs.
    And what did DRose say at the end of the game?

  • LA Huey

    Max, not to take too much away from LBJ’s classic ’07 ECF Game 5 but that was against the coaching of Flip Saunders. I mean, how many points do you let a guy score in single coverage before you start sending help? Teams these days aren’t simply going to let Bron iso against them in crunch time.

  • http://www.alllooksame.com Tarzan Cooper

    Great games from elton, tim, and al. Sjack too.

  • Kadavour

    Bron put his shoulder down to drive to the hole on the last possession he touched the ball. That instinct has to kick in sooner.

  • http://www.optimabbc.be Max

    Your right, but like Mo said it’s unacceptable for Lebron to not take a single shot in the 4th. If I’m bron, and my team is struggling at the end of a game, I’m putting my head down and attack the rim.

  • LA Huey

    Was Monta wearing the Jordan XIs last night? I saw a photo that looked like it but I thought he’s an AND 1 guy.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Slick Ric

    lebrons a bum, worst player in the league, this guy is overrated, people have the nerve to compare him to scottie pippen, they should be ashamed of themselves. miami needs to trade him for evan turner, because thats all he’s worth,bum.

  • MaxIsNative

    Parsons is doing better then Morris…

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    Ever since Bron went to MIA (apart from the playoffs vs Bos and CHI) his 4th qtr game has taken a nose dive. Despite all the talk about a lack of clutchness, dude was a beast when it came time to win in the 4th while with the cavs (led the L in 4th qtr scoring numerous times). With the heat though, he seems content to allow Wade and at times Bosh to take the majority of shots while he falls back on his “playmaking” role.
    Also when will coaches understand that your superstars don’t have to take every GW shot? The heat needed a 3 last night in OT yet Spo decided to keep on the best 3pt shooters on the bench which led to Wade and Bron playing hot-potato with the ball and Bron forcing up a 3 that hold no shot of going in. There’s a reason why Bron/Wade stopped taking 3s this season and for the coach not to draw up a shot for one of the heat’s many 3pt shooters is beyond me.

  • http://www.twitter.com/nflem41 Nicolas Fleming

    I know we are all way more serious fans than the casual NBA watcher, but damn, sometimes it’s fun to just be happy watching basketball. And last night was one of those nights.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZeJDN0Ue00 Max

    Slick Ric, If people should be ashamed comparing Lebron to Pippen, you should kill yourself if you think he’s the worst player in the league…

  • http://juan.garcia@computershare.com Marcelus Wallace

    LeBron… can you say yellow?

  • http://nba.com GP23

    I think Derrick Rose said something in the lines of mothaf**ka, or Fu*k something?? NBA highlights blurred it, but ESPN highlights show it, but it’s hard to lip-read what he actually said.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Slick Ric

    @max, you should kill yourself if you think a person is serious saying Lebron is the worst player in the league. come on son!

  • http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Marshon-Brooks-6347/playerblog/ nbk

    Cosign that dood from Texas Tech.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZeJDN0Ue00 Max

    ^I was overexagerrating. :)

  • http://www.twitter.com/nflem41 Nicolas Fleming

    I’m that dood from Texas Tech.

  • dood from Texas Tech

    Nic, stop lying.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Nick Tha Quick

    Just wish SOME guys in here would keep it even. Kobe has an impressive game, and yes even if it was against the Suns, he’s ball hog, cares only about personal stats, vendettas etc LBJ has a horrible 4th Quarter, it’s just one game, he passed to open teammates, blah blah I don’t care so much for newbies here just SOME of the regular dudes that almost break out in hives and boils if they so much as have to give Bean his due for one good game but are always falling over themselves to diss him.

  • http://www.twitter.com/nflem41 Nicolas Fleming

    SLAMily, you wasn’t with him shooting in the gym.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    We don’t have to criticize LeBron. There isn’t anyone in here comparing him to Michael Jordan or defending what he did last night. Which was absolutely awful. Kobe was great. Really great. But he wasn’t so great that it merits the BS overreacting that people are doing. There is a reason Kobe is a hotter topic then LeBron. He has way higher amount of illogical fans.

  • http://www.leaguelineup.com/welcome.asp?url=pawtucketymca Gametimeweezy

    How does Kobe care only about personal stats when he had 48 points and the whole crowd and Chris Webber wanted him to get 50, and instead of take a final shot to pad his stats he goes and daps up Shannon Brown…

  • http://www.leaguelineup.com/welcome.asp?url=pawtucketymca Gametimeweezy

    And that Warriors/Heat game didn’t have as much to do as LeBron not being able to buy a bucket, than it did Dorrell Wright caught fire… how about less hate on The King and more props to Mark Jackson and the Warriors…. Hand down, Man down!!!!

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    I don’t have League Pass, and I didn’t watch the Heat game. So I can’t really speak on what LeBron did, or my thoughts on his motives.
    I think is a hypocritical for Kobe to say he doesn’t care what people think or write, then talk about that very thing when he has a good game. That’s childish.
    I’m surprised more people don’t see the logic problem with that behavior.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    I have a huge problem with Kobe’s after game remarks last night. I was appalled to be honest.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    The first thing you say is “not bad for the 7th best player in the league” nothing about how your TEAM performed? Instead you say things like this “If I play bad or if I have one bad game like I did in Denver, everybody cries for a change or cries for the fact that I’m too old, when it’s just a bad game with a bad wrist. Nobody wants to hear that”

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    AllenP. Kobe DOES NOT CARE. Doesn’t mean he doesn’t hear the critics. Not hypocritical. Just kinda unneeded for him to toss it in there.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    he clearly cares

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    If you say one thing and do something else, that’s the very definition of hypocritical.
    If you don’t care what people think, but then you challenge their beliefs, what do you call that?
    When you don’t care about something, you honestly don’t care. You don’t notice it, you don’t think about it, it’s not on your mind.
    You can’t have it both ways, and I hate when ALL athletes do that. You claim you don’t care, but then when you have success, you reveal you’ve cared all along.
    Kobe is not alone in this behavior, but he tends to be the most aggressive at talking about how his critics don’t matter to him, but then trying to rub their noses in it when he manages to show them up.
    It’s silly, and even worse, it’s just illogical.
    If one night doesn’t prove them right, how can one night prove them wrong? Don’t you see the logic disconnect there?

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Well what do you think “caring” is. If caring is noticing and attemping to prove someone wrong, then yes, he cares. If caring means that he goes home and thinks, “well garsh, the guys at ESPN think i’m not as good as I thought I was. Maybe they are right, maybe I should question myself like they do.” Then no, he doesn’t care. Kobe DOES NOT CARE.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    You mean Kobe does not agree. He clearly cares. Care: Feel concern or interest. If he mentions it without provocation, it’s something he cares about.

  • LA Huey

    If Kobe cares about his legacy, he does care about what people say and think about it. So he definitely cares. But when he says he doesn’t care what, I’m sure he means he won’t listen to their suggestions and criticisms.

  • http://slamonline.com datkid

    lmao @ the Nicks. the warriors were insane last night. They’re usually really hard to stop offensively but they’re finally playing defense. If everybody stays healthy this year, which is a big IF, I think they could maybe sneak into the playoffs. Also this might be just me… but why not use bosh in crunch time the same way the mavs use dirk nowitzki? he’s an excellent shooter and get’s to the line incredibly well.

  • http://slamonline.com datkid

    and it really is baffling why spoestra pulled his 3 point shooters… and stopped calling for lebron/wade post ups… and whatever happened to the lebron wade pick and roll??? smh

    also what did kobe say in post game?

  • LA Huey

    btw, guys. HEAT v CLIPS tonight!

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    ^I didn’t watch it, but something about “not bad for the 7th best player in the L” Regarding ESPN’s preseason rankings.

  • http://juan.garcia@computershare.com Marcelus Wallace

    Stop trying to be righteous. Everyone in this world is a hypocrite. Yes… even your momma.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    ^ naw my mom is a hypedupcrip

  • http://www.slamonline.com Nick Tha Quick

    ^^ lOL @ nbk. Only watched the overtime of Heat/Warriors last night but have seen a few Warriors games. That boy Clay Thompson can shoot it. Maybe not as good as Steph but he’s alright. Just when you think Luke Walton should be put out to pasture, he comes out and has a pretty decent game. Not bad, Mr Days of our Lives.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Speak for yourself.
    Everybody is not a hypocrite. That’s a special sort of condition that requires an unwillingness to think critically about your actions, motives and behaviors.

  • Heals

    use NAMES nick…

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Allen P, that is completely false. Everyone is a little hypocritical at something. Common, your sh*t stinks also man.

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    No not really

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Yes. Yes, really. Have you ever littered? There’s one. Or were you saying that in reference to Allen’s sh*t and that it actually has no odor?

  • Allenp

    Who said I poop flowers?
    I said I am not a hypocrite. I don’t say one thing and do something else. I don’t front to look better. Kobe wants to be seen as aloof and uncaring so he lies. He lied about caring about what Shaq said. He lies about his critics. He just lies.

  • Allenp

    Hypocrisy is not doing something wrong. It pertains to presenting a false front to the world.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Yes, and you are a hypocrite. Maybe not as much as most people, but a hypocrite none the less. Being a God fearing man Allen you should no that no man has not sinned. Humans are naturally hypocritical. Doesn’t mean you should try not to be, but it is absurd to act as if there is nothing in your life where you are hypocritical.

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    Sounds like you don’t know what hypocrisy is.

  • http://www.pandora.com/#!/stations/play/446494664201913051 Gametimeweezy

    One things for sure, ppl hate on Kobe just like ppl hated on MJ… can’t make everybody happy.

  • http://sfjklf.com Jukai

    Actually, Lakeshow is right, for once. Everyone does something that one can be seen as hypocrisy. EVERYONE. Just some dbags make it easier to see (kobe).
    Also, Lebron is kind of losing me here….

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    let’s wait until playoff juks.

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    or in the finals if they get there.

  • Justin G.

    What’s Kobe supposed to say? “Yes, you critics are pissing me off and I’m going to show you what I’m all about tonight”? or “Yes, what Shaq said really bothered me”? If he said that you would all be calling him a whiner and a baby. For a lot of what Kobe does right he’ll never be able to win with a lot of you. Pretty pathetic really that about 90+% of you in here can’t be objective. And for the record, AllenP’s sh*t doesn’t stink. He’s the only one that notices things, is always surprised others don’t see how he does, and is the be all end all of this site.

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