Saturday, January 28th, 2012 at 6:28 pm  |  106 responses

Report: Raptors Open To Trading Jose Calderon


The Raptors PG recently told the Spanish newspaper, Marca, that he’d “like to have the opportunity to compete for something.” He may get his wish. ESPN reports that Calderon’s salary and GM Bryan Colangelo’s new direction for the team, has the Raptors’ front office considering moving Calderon for another PG: “Sources with knowledge of Toronto’s thinking say that the team is not just going to give Calderon away, especially when he’s back to supplying a typically efficient 10.6 points and 8.7 assists nightly, but I’m told that the Raps are indeed open to moving him. [...] Sources say that the Raps, if not outright shopping Calderon, have let it be known they’re willing to listen, since he’s no longer regarded as their long-term answer at the point. That’s because shedding Calderon’s nearly $11 million salary for next season would be another step in the reset that began with Bryan Colangelo’s drafting of Jonas Valanciunas in June and the hiring of the defensive-minded Dwane Casey as the new coach.”

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  • MikeC.

    @Caboose: I think Jose’s contract has another year left. That won’t work with Cuban’s cap plan for next summer. That would also end the “Roddy Buckets Future Star” movement.

  • Shem

    I can’t believe this is even a discussion. Raptor games sell out all the time. There is no way this team is ever moving, MLSE has too much money. The future looks bright for this team. Bargnani is starting to play up to expectations, Ed Davis, Amir Johnson, Bayless, Demar DeRozan, Barbosa, James Johnson all have potential. Add that with Valanciunas and another top pick from this draft (hopefully Harrison Barnes) coming next year and we got a solid squad.

  • Shem

    Forgot to mention this team has the 5th lowest payroll and room for free agent signings.

  • http://Slamonline.com Caboose

    My bad on the Mavs, I thought Calderon was expiring.

  • Gammack

    I’m Canadian and the fact is some of these posts are ridiculous. From Canadians and Americans alike. So a couple points… If a team makes money there is no point in moving them. Since the Raptors are the only Canadian team, they have a very large fan base. This page is about moving Calderon, not moving the team. I find it pretty sad that I come here trying to read about basketball but instead get to read about how Canadians try to copy Americans, or how bad the American economy is, etc, etc. Calderon is a slightly better than average pg with a relatively large contract. The Raps are open to moving him. Those are the facts. Lets keep it at that.

  • Justin G.

    Red you might be the biggest moron on this site. Yes, move a team that’s one of the biggest profit makers in the NBA. Between the years MJ played and Derrick Rose got drafted did you think the Bulls should be moved? Didn’t think so. And as for all of this ridiculous Canada vs. US crap, both countries have their pros and cons and bringing them up during a basketball discussion makes you all look like fu(ktards.

  • Bravo

    As long as you know Canada is better than the states

  • Justin G.

    Well yes, I do know that but still. lol

  • shutup

    I like gravy on my fries and i have a wicked slapshot ehh.

  • Mike From Spain

    @ shutup -> career wise tony parker is one of the best – pg, euro player, you name it. right now he’s a bit on a decline but still very good. I can only hope for rubio or calderon to have a fraction of his nba success . as for euroleague and fiba national teams, rubio’ career is already better.

  • Da-Meat-Hook

    To Americans dissing Canada: I live in Toronto. Trust me, it’s and incredible place to live. All the money, great food, and beautiful girls you could ever want. To Raptor fans defending them: I live in Toronto. Trust me, the Raptors suck. No offense, no defense, and no direction. They’re not sniffing the playoffs for the next 5 years. There, is everyone happy???

  • Justin G.

    Five years? I’ll say maybe 3. You never can tell with what we’ll get in the draft, how Jonas Val will affect the team, if Bargnani keeps playing like an All Star, time with the coach in a real training camp and practice time, maybe DeRozan busts out…the kid is only 21 I think so let’s not get down on the guy yet.

  • DeeRose

    TRADE Calderon. Stop drafting Europeans.

    Raptors will never relocate.

    America & Canada both have pros & cons. One country is not better than the other.

    This is a basketball thread though…

    SMDH.

  • Red

    I’m a moron for having an opinion? Yeah that really makes YOU look like a moron for hating me for an opinion on a DISCUSSION page. To me, Canada isn’t really anything, you guys listen to our music, watch our tv shows, want to copy us, etc. But yet are so quick to say you’re ‘better’ somehow. It’s all good though we don’t mind I’m sure, plus you guys all ended up seeming ignorant for being douches in your replies & were hurt by what an American thinks further showing you guys want to be like us. Thanks guys

  • buschfire

    lol @ Red I’m not even Canadian, but I do live in Toronto and consider it my home. To be honest I don’t care what you’re saying because quite frankly your opinion means absolute squat. Obviously you have some sort of underlying issues about being an American and how good it is to be one Otherwise you wouldn’t have to put down Canada. Like a bully in the playground beating up the smallest kid. Its funny that Americans when traveling around the world stitch a canadian flag on the back of their backpacks so that they don’t get gang beaten. I think you are the only one still on the CDN VS US BS. oh but just to wrap up I don’t think we try to be like you, we just enjoy some of your media. Though these days it seems you like ours since the Bieber and Drake are # 1′s on american charts…(they both suck btw) and even if we did want to emulate you that should make you happy as copying is just a form of flaterry.Lets just talk basketball. Yes the Raptors do suck. big deal 2 – 3 years from now we’ll be in playoff contention. Chicago is a great team actually been my favourite team since i was a kid. Why all the hate for Toronto, its a great world class city.

  • http://nyill.wordpress.com Enigmatic

    Wow.
    ZOGS is the biggest racist on this site and y’all are jumping all over Red for HIS comments?
    Nice.
    The comment section on this site is slowly going the way of YouTube…

  • http://nyill.wordpress.com Enigmatic

    And the Raptors suck and yeah, they won’t be sh*t for a while.
    Gonna take more than three years
    And I don’t know much about my neighbors to the southwest (you read that right) but Toronto looks like a cool city.

  • http://nyill.wordpress.com Enigmatic

    *Neighbors to the southeast. Got all turned around my bad.
    I ain’t trying to talk sh*t to Raps fans but some of y’all need to be more realistic.
    I’m a Bulls fan, and back in the Ron Mercer days, I knew it would take a real star to get us back.
    Enter D Rose.
    But if y’all land an Anthony Davis in the draft you might be aight

  • Red

    I didn’t much read what you said Busch, but if you don’t care what I think why are u still replying? And you know what I was just trying to piss people off but Anthony Davis isn’t the answer, they need a star at the 1,2, or 3 in order to become contenders. But I still believe stateside, no one will ever care for the Raps. Excuse any ignorance, but I do believe you guys copy us then hypocritically say you’re better than us lol.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Dagger

    Toronto is the 5th largest city in North America and the centre of an urban area of over 8 million people (golden horseshoe). Why would anyone even think of moving a team from that market, even if basketball is (at best) the city’s #2 sport? On the other hand, moving Calderon makes a lot of sense, but why demand a PG in return? Trading and drafting for talent – not position – is usually the best way to build a team.

  • Justin G.

    Enigmatic, we mostly just ignore ZOGS now
    Red, what exactly do we copy? What is it that makes Americans think they are so great? I believe it’s your president trying to copy our form of health care. Don’t be jealous of us because the world hates your guts.

  • http://www.nba.com VanCityBBall

    this may sound silly for some people but toronto is a lot like NYC believe it or not… but calderon can make a difference on almost any team in the L

  • http://www.coachesclipboard.net/FlexOffense.html nbk

    smh

  • http://redoftoothandclaw.ca niQ

    Too many trolls on this thread…

  • http://Slamonline.com Caboose

    This is what happens on weekends…all the “commenters” aren’t in their middle school classes.

  • buschfire

    If Toronto can get Anthony Davis or Harrison Barnes or Jeremy Lamb I think we’ll be ok with Bargnani having a breakout season, and with Jonas Valuncunias on the way…Ed Davis and DeMar if they can get out of their funks we’ll have a fairly solid young core. We just need a point guard…thoughts?

  • Shem

    I don’t understand why everyone is so big on Anthony Davis. He seems like a less athletic Derrick Favors with better shot blocking ability. Probably going to have a similar career to Marcus Camby. Don’t get me wrong, great player but not enough to turn a franchise around. Andre Drummond is the best big man out of this draft and as for the Raptors, Harrison Barnes would be the best fit.

  • Da-Meat-Hook

    Harrison Barnes will be a solid role player at best. Weak off the dribble, slow lateral quickness, average rebounder. He won’t bring the Raps any closer to a playoff birth. I LOVE Davis’ poise and shot blocking ability, but I’m not sure he could play along side Bargs because neither can play the 5 at this point. Davis will struggle because of his lack of size, and Bargs has struggled as a result of his lack of effort, desire, and willingness to box out on D. Jonas V and Davis combo sounds intriguing though . . .

  • Red

    Na Shem, Anthony Davis to me is a mini-D Howard. And you copy our music, tv shows, stores, etc. Ok, we took Democracy from Greek philosophers, guess they’re better than half the world. An idea is bulletproof, a good idea gets copied. The Raps need a passing forward to feed it to good shooters & a decent sized Center.

  • Justin G.

    You also took a lot of your TV shows and music from Britain. Or did you think you invented American Idol, X Factor, America’s Got Talent, to name but a few?

  • Shem

    Andre Drummond is much closer to Dwight Howard than Anthony Davis. Davis is a wiry 4 with a jumper, don’t see it. I think this draft is overrated. The expectations for Jeremy Lamb and Jared Sullinger are unrealistic.

  • Red

    I agree with the Lamb bit, and Davis’ rebounding is good he’s got length & once he comes to the NBA I think he’ll bulk up. And again we took the ideas & reused them, we didn’t literally take a show unless you mention The Office. I’m not going to argue about this anymore lol it’s getting dumb. But Rubio is a better 1 than Calderon.

  • http://www.coachesclipboard.net/FlexOffense.html nbk

    smh Rubio is clearly better ten Calderon. If you can’t see that then you aren’t watching. It’s not even close.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Live from the 519

    @red – Chill out with the copying bit pal. Donald Sutherland, Rachael McAdams, Ryan Gosling, Ryan Reynolds, Scarlett Johanssen, Mike Myers, James Cameron, Christopher Plummer, Drake, the BIEBS etc. All Canadian. Our economy is sweet- we have great jobs and great education. When I go to the hospital- I don’t pay sh*t. Our economy, social welfare, education, and health are all ranked better. If someone like Mitt Romney had political aspirations here- we would laugh at him. Don’t get me wrong, its nothing personal against the States. But when you come in here with your bs about how we’re maple syrup licking puckheads, we get a little defensive as you can see.

    In terms of Calderon- meh. I bleed Raptors but I’m already excited about our chances in the Anthony Davis sweepstakes.

  • woopwoop

    rubio will be better than calderon, but right now calderon has a better shot and more experience. is he over paid? yes. but like many people have said he will be an asset to a team with good talent around him.

    we have enough PFs (amir, ed, etc) we need a wing scorer, DD is not cutting it, and we need someone to push him like a Barnes or Kidd-GIlchrist.

    Valencunias is coming, and he will be at the C spot, best player probably for his age at his position.

    It will take time, but the raptors will get back into relevance.

    In terms of fans and market, toronto is one of the best run franchises in terms of turning a profit. toronto is one of the greatest cities in the world, and a great market for this sport (plus VC and all that hype helped ALOT). vancouver failed because they have a more hockey heavy fan base.

  • http://nyill.wordpress.com Enigmatic

    Andre Drummond won’t be Dwight Howard because he lacks the heart and desire to get there.
    That’s why Davis will be better, he wants to be the best.
    If you can’t watch a Kentucky game and see that he will be an absolute game-changer in the NBA on the defensive side of the ball, you might be watching the wrong sport.
    I wrote a piece about how Davis might be the best defensive prospect since Tim Duncan I might post on my blog here soon.
    Anyways, we Americans steal the sh*t out of other countries’ movies and tv shows. That is a fact.
    The Office, Let Me In, The Ring, The Grudge, Ugly Betty, Vanilla Sky, Brothers, I could go on and on and on…

  • Shem

    Completely disagree Enigmatic, you can assess a players physical attributes and fundamentals but you’ll never know who has the heart and desire. I think Davis is phenomenal on defence but power forwards are a lot easier to come by today than centers which is why Drummond is going 1st.

  • shutup

    Maybe you should give Calderon his due, he is a better leader has a better jumpshot, shoots free throws better, why else would he be the starter on Spain’s national team ahead of Rubio, or do you know better than the coaches over there too? Oh and there numbers this season are neck and neck.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    This Canada vs. America debate is really dumb. Sorry folks.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    Sorry as in, sorry this thread sucked @ss because of Red and ZOGS.

  • http://www.coachesclipboard.net/FlexOffense.html nbk

    Lol Rubio plays defense, Calderon doesn’t. The gap between them as overall NBA players is Huge.

  • Da-Meat-Hook

    Calderon’s jumper, ft shooting, and assist to turnover ratio are better. But he plays mantador defense. Rubio’s D is much better and he’s got the intangibles. Where Calderon is a conservative “east-west” passer, Rubio actually passes to players in scoring positions. He’s far more aggressive and his upside is much higher than Jose’s ceiling.

  • Red

    It sucked? You’d have replied to it if it had a lot more fewer comments? Ok you’re just looking for attention Teddy, grow up lol.

  • Da-Meat-Hook

    ” a lot more fewer comments”? What does that even mean???

  • b-nEWT

    Who is that awesome power forward that used to play for the Raptors?? ummmmm Chris something?? oh no, that’s right! MATT BONNER!

  • Red

    Exactly what I said, meaning if it was a lot less comments I doubt he’d have posted. Use your numbskull, you’re mad slow.

  • SikhWitIt

    He would be an excellent fit on the Mavs. They lost a lot of quickness with Barrea which they can recover with Calderon while allowing J-Kidd to come off the bench and rest up for the stretch run. Mavs are going to be dangerous!

  • shutup

    I dont understand what an east -west passer means if there putting up the same number of assist or close to it per game, and with calderon a/to ratio being better doesnt that mean hes more productive? and how long till rubio gets the rondo treatment? Calderons jumpshot keeps D’s honest. Does Rubio have more potential? Ask me when the Wolves arent babying him, you do realize ridinour is a pg, so giving him credit for running the offense when there both on the floor is a lil deceiving. AS for calderon playing matador D, I find that racist and derogatory. Rubio does play better D, but lets face it neither of these two guys are gonna stop any of the better pgs out there.

  • Mike From Spain

    @shutup -> if you say that Ridnour runs the offense better than RR, then either you think very differently than I do or you haven’t been watching the Wolves matches. Statistics can be deceiving, but you can also check out the +/- and PER among other things, and it’s not even close. Not even with Ridnour having a good shooting night every now and then. I should spell it Rinour, because he’s got no D.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeLRym4Q-pg nbk

    Shutup doesn’t know what he’s talking about Mike. There’s no use trying to explain it to him.

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