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Wednesday, January 18th, 2012 at 9:40 am  |  103 responses

Report: Timberwolves to Offer 4-Year, $60 Million to Kevin Love


According to the Pioneer Press, Minnesota is set to present a contract extension offer to star forward Kevin Love. But will the offer be good enough to get Love to sign?: “Look for the Timberwolves to offer Kevin Love a $60 million, four-year contract extension within the next eight days. Love, 23, who is playing for $4.6 million this season, can become a restricted free agent after the season unless he signs an extension before Jan. 25. If he opts for free agency, the Wolves would have the right to match any outside offer. Love also can return to Minnesota in 2012-13 for $6.1 million and become an unrestricted free agent after the season. Wolves President David Kahn isn’t commenting on contract talks, and Love says he’s unaware of the status of negotiations. The Wolves, though, want to get Love signed by next week. Love, one of five players in NBA history to start a season with 13 double-doubles (points-rebounds), is the Wolves’ fifth-highest-paid player.”

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  • little jimmy

    hey celtics sign this guy!

  • ronny123

    @lil jimmy no cap space

  • GGG

    Who says Money cant buy Love? Wolves need to open their wallets a little wider…

  • http://www.twitter.com_dfrance dfrance21

    This is probably exactly what Love wants. An offer that he can call insulting, so he can blame the Wolves for him opting out and becoming a FA.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Oh, this might be a big mistake.

  • Canesta

    Dear Rod Thorn,

    Please amnesty Elton Brand after the season, trade Igy, and sign Kevin Love!

  • http://all-heat-erthing.tumblr.com/ cramzy

    That 25 and 14

  • Ismael

    15 million a year for 4 years is not bad. He has time to see where the TWolves can go with their development. If they don’t improve, Love can be a free aganet after 4 years, still be 27 years old and at the prime of his career and choose to play for any team for an even bigger payday. Sign the extension Kevin.

  • T-Money

    15 mil per is insulting? That’s how much Bron and Wade are making! I think it’s too much for a guy that you can’t run the offense through but I understand the decision. It’s not like there are stars lining up to take Minny’s money. That’s why Memphis had to overpay Rudy Gay.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    That’s what Tyson got from the Knicks. You know Love has to figure he’s a lot better than Tyson, and that he’s a max level player. I think the deal is fine, but I’m not Kevin Love.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    If I was Love I would take that offer as a joke.

  • T-Money

    nbk – how much do you think he is worth?

  • KSupreme

    If this is how much he’s getting offered, and takes it…..draftstreet needs to take him out of the $20000 range

  • KSupreme

    Slap in the face….he should be making derrick rose money…too soon for the race card?

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    In Minnesota? The Max. Or atleast the “free-market” max.

  • Startown

    I hate the money issue, but it is reality I guess. He has the most double-double to start a season since Hakeem in 1992, so that doesn’t hurt his negotiations.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    Knicks overpaid big time for Tyson Chandler. What a stupid signing. $15 mil to Love in Minnesota is a bargain–you know he’s gonna get max somewhere else. He’s a perennial All-Star as of now.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    The race card?
    Really?
    Because white players tend to get shafted on their contracts in the NBA? Really now?
    GTFOH

  • KSupreme

    Love doesn’t need to waste anymore time and see where the direction of this team is goin, he already spent the first few years watching point guards get drafted and traded and darko…don’t even get me started, celtics should pick him up and ship out paul pierce….Love is getting no love for being the 2nd best power forward

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    No love from who? You must mean Minnesota and not the media because the media has Kevin Love’s schlong so far down their collected throats they are farting semen.

  • http://fklfs.com Jukai

    Hey, I’m sure Minny can find a ton of extremely marketable players who still have seven years of their prime to give you 25 and 15.
    Dumb ploy.

  • Da-Meat-Hook

    speaking of farting semen . . . never mind, my boss is standing at me desk.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Probably don’t waste your time trying to make sense of this dudes reason, he honestly tried to pull-out the race card about a white player being underpaid because of his skin tone, in MINNESOTA? as if that makes any bit of sense

  • AdamD

    15 Million a year, insulting? Really? He isn’t a max player. He’s great at rebounding and scoring but i don’t think he’s complete enough to be earning more. We don’t know how love would play with other stars around him. KD is on 17 million a year (his extension was 5 years, 85 mil) , i would say that Love is worth 2 million less than him. Also, as far as the Derrick Rose comparison, was their not something in the new CBA that allowed him to make more money due to his winning MVP?

  • Da-Meat-Hook

    they’re not letting me post my “farting semen” comment . . .

  • T-Money

    jukai – how marketable is he? i know kg sold a ton of merch for minny. i’m not trying to be sarcastic but does kevin love really put butts in seats and sell merch? as far as i know, he doesn’t have a shoe deal. now rubio? that’s a different story. you need to consider his appeal here and in europe when it’s going to be his turn to re-up. so if we’re talking strictly about basketball, i’m still uneasy with giving the max to a guy who you can’t just give the ball to at the end of games and tell him to go to work. but that’s not my money.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    T, if they don’t offer him atleast a free-market max he’s going to turn it down, get offered it somewhere else, then Minnesota will match and all of this extra stuff will have only frustrated him into believing his team doesn’t value him as highly as other better markets do.

  • Landry_legend

    Is this even a max deal ?

  • Landry_legend

    If bosh and joe Johnson can get max deals, love more than deserves it

  • Da-Meat-Hook

    15 Million a season sounds like A LOT for Love, but not when you compare it to the production Joe Johnson, Rudy Gay, and Tyson Chandler are giving you in relation to their deals.

  • T-Money

    landry: joe johnson doesn’t deserve that contract. bosh is better than kevin love. let’s not forget that bosh posted 24-12 in toronto and he was better defensively and you could run the offense through him.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    And to be clear, I think Kevin Love should get ALL his money. As much as he can get. I just don’t like that some players are branded as selfish for pursuing that goal and others are lauded.

  • Da-Meat-Hook

    co-sign T-Money, the only things Love has on Bosh are rebounding and throwing outlet passes. Nothing else!

  • Pais

    I guess my perspective is all skewed and to be fair I’m not terribly familiar with who gets paid what so all I can think about is getting paid 15 MILLION DOLLARS a year to PLAY BASKETBALL. wow, and apparently this is insulting? Jeez, what a world we live in.

    @AdamD – 2m less than KD, sounds about right?

  • http://www.optimabbc.be Max

    If he cares about winning he takes this deal.

  • http://www.optimabbc.be Max

    But he’s playing in Minnesota, so go for the max or GTFO.

  • T-Money

    pais – you can’t look at it like that, it’s entertainment. brad pitt makes 20 million per to act in movies, jay-z made hundreds of millions to rap… why wouldn’t nba guys make tens of millions to play basketball? none of these entertainers are saving lives but they’re generating crazy money and should rightfully get a big chunk of these revenues. none of the money will be used to better social services either. / and don’t get me wrong, kevin love should get as much as he can… what i’m questioning is if it’s in minnesota’s best interest to give him a max deal. the stats are gaudy but kevin love is not a transcendant player. he doesn’t make his teammates better and he doesn’t produce wins like other max guys. i don’t really know how to phrase it but when dwight gets 28 and 18, you feel it. with kevin love, i often have to go to the boxscore after the game to realize he had a monster game.

  • Startown

    The Wolves would never trade Love for Bosh, Bosh is not a better player. Miami would sign that deal so fast.

    Record numbers

  • ClydeSays

    If Big Al is getting 14 & Duncan is ‘underpaid’ at 21, 15-17 mil per year for Love seems about right. Can Love carry a team like Duncan can? No. Let’s see KLove carry his team to the Playoffs, or even a .500 record.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    lol smh, the team a player plays doesn’t matter, their stats are a direct representation of how good they are. We might as well just pledge our allegiance to John Hollinger and the PER religion.

  • http://www.pisforprops.com jadams12

    i’m pretty sure its even more with the 5th year a player option too. So think 5 years 75+mill total if he returns to Minny. Pretty fair deal as far as both sides go. He’s not even in his veteran years. When he gets 7 years plus in the league and he’s still putting up numbers, then he’ll start making 16,17 mill per easy. That would be his new deal if he chooses to take this deal.

  • http://www.pisforprops.com jadams12

    and Btw you cant really justify the Duncan and joe johnson contract because they’ve been in the League for a lot longer than KLove and are able to make more money anyway.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    How long they’ve been in the league is irrelevant. You pay the player for what they are doing under contract. Not what they did under their last contract. And age doesn’t change their affect on salary cap. It remains, Kevin Love right now, is worth more than Tim Duncan. Joe Johnson making what he makes is a complete and utter joke.

  • http://www.twitter.com_dfrance dfrance21

    For the record, I don’t think the deal is insulting. I’m saying love wants a MAX deal, so to get the same deal as a player like Tyson Chandler, it may be insulting to him. The problem I find with players begging for the max is, Minny will max him out and then have no money to pursue free agents. Then 3 years from now he’ll have all this cash, and complain that Minny hasn’t improved the team. I think its a good deal that gets him paid and leaves Minny room to resign Rubio or whoever when the time comes. But I’m not mad at him trying to get all the cash he can get either. Just don’t complain later.

  • bike

    A lot of this depends on whether one thinks Love is a legit All-Star or a stat stuffer on a bad team.

  • Allenp

    I kind of agree with D france but it is a myth that if you sign a young player to a.max deal you don’t have money for other talent. Like Garnet’s salary didn’t kill the Wolves it was the deals for Wally and Troy Hudson that.killed them. Don’t overpay role players and you should be fine.

  • LA Huey

    Love is a max money to Minnesota. He’ll be a superstar in this league and, like it or not, a white American superstar makes your money longer in this league. Rubio’s on his way to becoming a star as well and his style of play will attract FAs. Minny will be a hot ticket if they keep Love, Rubio, and surround them with complementary talent.

  • LA Huey

    Paying your superstar tons of money is fine so long as he isn’t one-dimensional. Front offices cripple their teams by overpaying guys who can only score, pass, rebound, or play defense at a high level. Guys like Melo, Amare, Joe Johnson, Boozer…

  • chris

    this guy is getting out of minnesota as soon as he’s able to- watch his people decline the offer, re-up for one year, and start the possibility of him being a Laker. I dont kno why good ol’ mitch hasnt made a few calls to trader khan about love and super cool beas for gasol. kevin love is a max player- chandler, gay, and joe johnson just got over on dumb gm’s.

  • T-Money

    la huey: does a white american superstar really make your money longer? was bird more marketable than magic? what about dirk and steve nash? do they make more merch money than other superstars? is kevin love even a supertar (i’d say no). rubio is a totally different animal because he already has a cult following in europe (although that has slowed down some and nike didn’t re-up him yet).

  • LA Huey

    Super Beas in LA will be like Lamar with the Clippers all over again

  • Da-Meat-Hook

    @ startown, please enlighten me on how KLove is a better player than Chris Bosh . . . and don’t give me the 25/14 ish because Bosh was 23/11 on PLAYOFF TEAMS. And I’m not talking about STACKED teams, I’m talking about Jemario Moon and Joey Graham in your starting line-up type teams. The year before KLove was drafted, the T-Wolves were 22-60. Last year, in KLove’s finest season, they were 17-65. The year before that, they were 15-67. He’s a stat-stuffer, but he doesn’t translate into Ws.

  • T-Money

    one thing is certain: kevin love will ask for a premium to stay in minnesota, there will be no home town discount. maybe he would take 12-15 mil per from LA, new york, miami, chicago, dallas but it’s going to be the max for minny. and i can’t blame him.

  • LA Huey

    You can’t deny that the NBA’s “Golden Era” was fueled in part by the fact that face of the two most dominant teams was a black face and a white face.

  • Da-Meat-Hook

    LA Huey’s comment also applies to Leathal Weapons 1 through 4 . . .

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjhV1DavSRM LA Huey

    Don’t forget Lethal Weapon 5 (click my name)

  • http://www.nbadraft.net showtime

    Da- meat sayed all that needs to be said. the current is good enough anything more will cripple minny down the road.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Paying Kevin Love an extra 3 million a year in no way cripples minnesota down the road. that is absurdly stupid. Would you want Kevin Love to make some extra money, or have Darko? That’s really the question. And the answer is pretty obvious.

  • Da-Meat-Hook

    @ LA Huey
    That ish funny as hell!

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Very true Huey. Bird sold products like a bandit.
    No white star since Bird has approached that level mainly because none of them were seen as dominating the black competition like him. But, Nash has made money as a pitchman.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    You are supposed to pay a premium for superstars and cornerstones. Honestly, I’ve decided that Love deserves the max. No way should he be paid the same amount or less than David Lee, no disrespect to David Lee who has been balling this year.

  • Startown

    The Wolves should trade Darko for cash (cash to his new team…please take him) He is just not good

  • Ldub

    Idk Y people feel this is a bad deal. Doesnt Minny have draft picks coming in? You set your star player at a decent amount so that you have some wiggle room for the new cats coming in town. Plus with the new CBA, you dont want to spend all your money on 1 player. Winning involves the best “team”. Love is a great piece to keep in place. Build around him, Rubio, maybe Dwill and you should be straight to complete. Get a better center, sg and 2 or 3 pieces of the bench and look out. Minny will be, in a few years, what OKC was last year. Young, hungry and talented.

  • T-Money

    allen: to me, he’s neither. but again, not my money.

  • http://dodgers.com Joey E.

    why do i still feel like Love’s numbers this year are fools gold? even after his great 2011

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    He’s not a superstar, but he is a cornerstone.
    What he does is not easily duplicated. Yes, there are questions about whether he can be the best player on your team, but he doesn’t have to be. He can be your two. You still have three years before you have to pay Rubio market value. You can still sign another legit star to pair with Rubio and Love before you even approach luxury tax territory.
    It may be hard to sign a star now, but if Rubio and Love keep balling well and the team continues to improve, somebody will be willing to take that money, or you will trade some of your existing assets (Beasley, Wes Johnson, Ridnour) for something good but not mind blowing. Either way, signing Love to the max doesn’t cripple the team in any way when you consider their salary cap figures now because so many of their players are still on rookie deals.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Whether he is a superstar or cornerstone, is he worth losing because you don’t want to give him 2 or 3 extra Mill a year? Would you rather split that money between 2 players like say Luis Scola & Jarret Jack? That’s basically the only other option

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    They have a decent core with Love, Rubio and Derrick Williams. They have to make a decision on Wes Johnson, Ridnour and Beasley. Unfortunately, they don’t have a draft pick this year, which is killer, but that can’t be helped.
    They need to send out some feelers to a young team with good players who have issues. What about Cousins, or Javale McGee? They have some pieces with moderate trade value. They have to figure out how to make smart signings and stop giving away so many draft picks.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Can’t see how they could get Cousins without giving up Derrick Williams. Same with Javale McGee. Actually they would probably have to give up Williams and Beasley to get McGee. honestly trading Beasley and trying to get involved in the 2012 draft seems like the best option too me. Could you imagine if Kahhhhn weaseled out a pick that yielded Anthony Davis or Andre Drummond?

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Nobody is trading a good pick in this draft for anybody on the TWolves roster who isn’t Love or Rubio, that’s the biggest problem.
    I think they can offer Beasley and Johnson for McGee, and if the wizards balk, offer a second rounder. And I think McGee is worth that.

  • Da-Meat-Hook

    @ Allenp, I completely agree that Love is a cornerstone. That being said, do cornerstones warrant 15 million/year? IMHO, they don’t.

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    If you trade Beasley at the deadline he warrants a 1st. Cleveland is reportedly interested for example. P

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Cleveland is clearly stupid then.
    And I think that cornerstone’s warrant max deals provided the team can handle it financially. Look, if Tyson Chandler and David Lee get paid what they get paid, you have a difficult argument to make if you say Love can’t get his money.
    At this point I think Chris Bosh is a better player than Love, but the gap is not so massive that they can’t get paid the same amount.

  • bike

    Love is in the catbird seat. Min. is not going to be able to get a guy that puts up the kind of numbers Love does to come to that city. Not right now anyway. So give him the max–if the lockout taught us anything you have to get past the amount these guys make.
    There is nothing that Min. can do right now except to accept they are at best a mediocre team.

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    Say Minnesota offer Beasley to Minnesota for a 1st and Earl Watson (just an example). Does. Utah say no? Especially if they have a chance at the playoffs?

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    U know what I meant my bad

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    I think they say no immediately.
    Why do they need Beasley? To take away shots from Al Jefferson, Devin Harris and Gordon Hayward and demand a big deal? Hell no.
    Keep your pick and roll the dice in the draft. Their team is young and they can likely get a better piece through the draft than with Beasley.
    Look, until Beasley shows his head is on straight I think you have to pair him with another productive player in a trade to make a deal.

  • Da-Meat-Hook

    True, but David Lee and Tyson Chandler are worst case scenarios in my opinion. Then again, I see Aldridge, Bosh, and Love as B-level stars so if Lamarcus and Chris get their 60 mill over 4 years than so should Love. It just kills me knowing Lebron and DWade signed for roughly the same amount.I don’t see any other team being able to do what Miami did that summer. I think New York had a chance, but then they overpaid for A’mare, Melo, and Chandler.

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    I don’t necessarily disagree, I just think Beasley is still worth a 1st round pick. Now do I think he’s worth a guaranteed top 10 pick Not at all but a fringe lottery pick for a 20PPG 23 year old is worth it especially if he may provide the offense that gets your team to the playoffs.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    tyson is overpaid. david lee is somewhat overpaid as well, although his deal is not as bad as it was last year.
    Perkins just signed for like $9 million a year. So did DeAndre Jordan.
    Kevin Love, warts and all, can make a real case that as a potential All-NBA forward he deserves max money. We all have discussed the flaws in his game over and over, but to be honest it’s not like players doing what he does just fall into your lap. He has serious value as a player, and in this case Minnesota is going to have to pay a premium to keep him.

  • Startown

    I’d give up Johnson and Beasley for Javelle McGee in a heart beat! That would be sweet, and it would help Washington, they would win more games

  • LA Huey

    Beasley is worth a pick in the first round. Just not a lottery pick in this year’s draft.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Wes Johnson is almost 25 years old. He really doesn’t have that much trade value. He would not be a piece that swings over a potential All-Star big like McGee or Cousins. If they wanted to do like Williams, Johnson, & Ellington maybe that would work. Derrick Williams would be pretty imperative in one of those trades though, since Minnesota can’t offer a pick.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Huey, if you’re competing for a playoff spot, need scoring, and only have to give up your 1st round pick next year too get it, you don’t take a chance on Beasley?

  • T-Money

    allen: i’m down on derrick williams. i was very intrigued by his potential as a 3-man in the NBA but it is clear that he doesn’t have the dribble drive game and the lateral quickness to play the 3 full time. he is a souped up ryan gomes, that’s very disappointing.

  • Startown

    Derek Williams will be fine, he is explosive, give him some tim

  • http://www.twitter.com/L_Playah L_Playah

    If the wolves lose @kevinlove, the organization mind well put up a for sale sign up.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    I was just discussing this with someone.
    Would you trade Beasley, Johnson and Derrick Williams for Igoudala?
    I said no. The other cat said yes.
    I think your best bet is trying to lock down a big man to play with Love and help him defensively. Then letting Derrick Williams be your utility guy until his game develops, and trying to find a scoring two guard through free agency.
    I would push hard with Washington on that deal, and I would even offer Derrick williams and Beasley for McGee, and keep Johnson as the potential utility guy.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Beasley and Johnson? I think you’d have too in order to get Iggy. And the only guy you would realistically want back is Jodie Meeks except you don’t need anymore small guards. I don’t think i’d do it.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Maybe if you could make it, Williams, Beasley, Johnson, Ellington for Iguodala and Young.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    the Sixers would never throw Young in that deal.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Then no, TWolves would be giving up their entire stable of wings for a guy who is arguably overpaid and will probably leave first chance he gets.

  • retrobat

    One thing that I think no one ever really talks about is seeing the “Big Picture”. If Love takes the max (whatever that is) it may invariably strangle Minny from keeping other players on board. So Love maxes out but they consistently lose because Minny can’t afford good players other than KLove. This is the problem with all the “on the verge” teams like Atlanta, NY, Orlando, etc. The super-friends all took less money because they saw the big picture. So the question is what does KLove want? If he wants to win, maybe he takes this deal. 15 mil doesn’t seem so bad to me.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    You need to learn about the salary cap if you think any player can prevent a team from resigning their own guys.

  • LA Huey

    nbk, if I’m a team that’s most likely in the playoffs, I can trade my 1st rounder for Beas. But if I’m a team that’s on the playoff bubble, Beasley’s not a guy I can take a chance on. Dude’s got the raw talent but has developed the hoops IQ to put it together or the common sense to limit his struggles to basketball-related.

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    I feel you. I think he ends up putting together. But I understand completely those that don’t.

  • Heals

    Wow I’m totally late to this party. Anyway, I’m in the camp that he’s not a Max guy, period (not sure anyone’s debating that). As I’ve said before I still don’t know how his numbers translate to winning in a manner that makes the hype he receives acceptable. In my armchair opinion he’s a number3 on a Champ caliber team. Love his game and most things about the guy, just don’t like the acclaim he gets in comparison to his counterparts (LA, Horford – who’s forced to play C but at his natural PF dude would be a bigger force, Bosh, Gasol, etc.)…

  • Heals

    if some other team wants to Max him out, Minny’s gotta let him go. Teams like Minny maxing out players like KLo is why we had a locko, nope not going there just gonna appreciate the season (repeated while I rock back and forth with arms crossed)…

  • Auger

    See, this is the problem giving guys like Joe Johnson or Tyson Chandler huge, overpaid deals. When resigns like Love take place, people will use these guys and say “If they can get that kind of contract, Love more than deserves it!” without realizing that those guys should never be on that kind of money to start with.

  • Startown

    Funny how when Kevin Love is mentioned stats don’t count anymore, he clearly is outplaying Bosh, but he is better.
    Cmon be realistic, Miami would trade bosh for love in 3 seconds. They would be a lock to win a title with Love.

  • Da-Meat_Hook

    @ Startown, the Heat are NOT better with KLove. Their defense is predicated on speed, length, and defensive range. Bron and Wade are extremely agressive playing the passing lanes. When there gambles don’t pay off, Miami bigs need the foot speed to recover and contest. Why do you think Haslem is so effective on D? Bosh is much more mobile than Love. Miami’s offense is at it’s best when they’re fast breaking every chance they get. Bosh runs the floor much better than Love as well. Again, KLove does NOT average 24ppg on the Heat, playing the role of a distant 3rd option taking 7-8 shots a game.

  • Justin G.

    Da-Meat is exactly right. I don’t know how anyone could say Bosh is better than Love, and I also don’t know how anyone in their right mind can say Love is a max player. There are a handful of max players in the league and he is most certainly not one of them.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Bosh is better then Love. Love is a max player in Minnesota.

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