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Wednesday, February 1st, 2012 at 8:35 am  |  150 responses

Post Up: Back On My Grizzy

Memphis stops skid in OT, while the Lakers, Hawks and Knicks cruise to easy wins.

by Abe Schwadron | @abe_squad

I was in the building last night for the Knicks’ blowout win over the Pistons, 113-86, as was CC Sabathia (no, we didn’t sit together sadly), so we might as well start there on a night with seven NBA games on tap. Madison Square Garden is the most famous basketball arena on the planet. So it’s sad when a crap basketball game is played there. Okay, okay, the Knicks looked pretty darn decent, led by a rejuvenated Landry Fields and sparked by the return of Carmelo Anthony, but the Pistons are a super-bad team, and I don’t mean that in the cool way. By mid-third quarter, this game was borderline unwatchable—but give credit to the Knicks for shooting 60 percent from the field and solving their offensive woes for one night, at least. Melo scored 25 points and had 6 assists, heating up the Knicks’ offense early on. Fields was hotter than anyone, scoring 16 of his 18 points in the first half and hitting 4 of 6 three-pointers. In the first half, New York made 6 threes and shot 66 percent, opening up a 57-45 halftime edge. In the third, Detroit scored only 12 points. In the fourth, it was borderline torturous hoops for a neutral observer. Hateration aside, the Knicks will have a second chance to impress us all on Thursday against the Bulls. This was only the Knicks’ second win in the past 11 games, and snapped a three-game slide. Detroit’s Greg Monroe scored 11 in the first quarter, but only two points the rest of the game (plus 12 boards and 4 steals). The Pistons played selfish, confused, and like a team with very little talent. Probably because those are all true. Don’t be fooled by Jonas Jerebko’s 15 points, most of that came in garbage time against the Steve Novaks and Jeremy Lins of the world. On to the rest of the night’s games:

Celtics 93, Cavaliers 90

It was almost dejà vu for the Celtics last night, as they saw a comfortable lead shrink down the stretch thanks to the playmaking ability of Kyrie Irving, the man who snatched defeat from Boston just two nights prior, as this time he scored 13 points in the fourth quarter. But the C’s held on—barely—and improved to .500 at 10-10, behind 20 points from Paul Pierce. At one point, Cleveland trailed by 22, and at the end of three quarters, Boston was up by 16 points. The Celtics, still without Rajon Rondo, shot 51 percent from the field, but nearly crumbled in the fourth, when the Cavs outscored them 32-17. Anderson Varejao had a huge game, with 20 points and 20 rebounds (including a crazy 10 offensive boards), Irving finished with 21 points and 6 assists, and Alonzo Gee got jiggy with it for 2 of his 11. The Cavs got to within 2 points with 1:18 left on an Irving driving layup, but Kevin Garnett (13 points) responded with a short jumper and Cleveland fumbled its next possession, allowing Boston to escape with its fifth win over the last six games.

Pacers 106, Nets 99

Injuries, turnovers and Paul George vs. Deron Williams. Those were the themes from this game. From the injury department, the short-handed Nets played without Mehmet Okur, MarShon Brooks and DeShawn Stevenson, while Indiana’s George Hill suffered an extremely painful-sounding “chip fracture” in his ankle in the third quarter and did not return. Turnovers: each team had 19 (DWill had 6 for New Jersey, while Roy Hibbert and David West had 5 apiece for the Pacers). As for Williams and George, while they rarely matched up against one another (duh), they were the two big factors scoring-wise for their respective teams—DWill dropped 34 on 10-20 shooting to go with 7 assists, while PG scored a career-high 24 points. And more highlight-y, each player threw down dunks that will immediately be in the discussion for jam of the year. See below for video evidence. Indiana led by as much as 18 in the fourth quarter, and while the Nets came within 3 twice in the last 2 minutes, the Pacers got to the free throw line and held off New Jersey from there to move to 14-6 on the year.

Hawks 100, Raptors 77

Joe Johnson likes playing against Toronto—in his last four games versus the Raptors, he’s averaging 30 points, which is exactly how many he scored last night. Oh, and he didn’t even play in the fourth quarter, as the Hawks dismantled the Raps, taking a 56-37 lead by halftime and riding to their 16th win on the season. Atlanta was hot, shooting 51 percent from the field, while Toronto couldn’t get anything going offensively without Andrea Bargnani. The Raptors shot just 37 percent and were led in scoring by Jerryd Bayless, who scored 14 points on 4-of-11 shooting. No other Toronto starter scored in double figures, while ex-Raptor star Tracy McGrady dropped 15 (and 1 memorable assist) on his former team in 21 minutes off the bench. With the win, Atlanta finished 4-1 on their longest road trip of the season. Unfortunately, their next such trip won’t be quite as easy, as they travel to play the Lakers, Suns, Blazers, Bulls and Knicks in consecutive games after a four-game homestand.

Grizzlies 100, Nuggets 97 (OT)

Memphis was down by 13 in the second half, and by 10 with just over 6 minutes to play, but roared back to get a much-needed win after losing four straight games, thanks to clutch performances from, well, everyone, but mostly OJ Mayo (18 points, including the go-ahead three-ball with 35 seconds to go in OT) and Rudy Gay, who did it on both ends of the floor. Gay racked up a crazy 20-13-5 line and had a critical block during overtime to keep the Grizzlies in the game. Memphis won despite shooting just 38 percent, which was negated by 24 helpful turnovers from Denver. The Nuggets got big-time games off the bench from Al Harrington (23 points, 10 boards) and Andre Miller (20, 6 and 6), but fell to 14-7 after letting the Grizz creep back into the game, and tie it with under ten seconds left in regulation on a Tony Allen dunk. An Andre Miller runner rimmed out at the buzzer, and then Memphis staged yet another comeback in the OT. The Tams Grizzlies move to 11-10 on the year, and if they can sustain this kind of play until Z-Bo comes back, then look out. Allen scored 17 and Marc Gasol had 20 points, 13 rebounds and 3 blocks. Grizzly!

Warriors 93, Kings 90

The Kings led by 1 heading into the fourth quarter, but Brandon Rush sparked a crunch time rally for the Warriors, scoring 15 of his team-high 20 points in the fourth, and Golden State beat former coach Keith Smart. Rush and a lineup of reserves led GSW down the stretch, not the team’s two studs, Stephen Curry and Monta Ellis. In fact, the starting backcourt duo was planted to the bench for most of the fourth quarter. Curry had 8 assists, but scored just 3 points on 1-of-7 shooting, and Monta Ellis scored 12 points but made only 5 of 17 shots—together, they were 0-for-6 from the three-point line. With the pair struggling, the bench picked it up, and the Warriors protected the basketball (only 8 turnovers). Tyreke Evans had a monster, almost-triple-double-ish game, with 22 points, 10 rebounds and 9 assists in 44 minutes, and DeMarcus Cousins had 21 points and 14 rebounds, but Sacramento lost its fifth straight. Lastly, kudos to the fan who stole Rush’s towel after his post-game interview. Nice hands!

Lakers 106, Bobcats 73

For the Lakers, 3-5 in their last eight, Charlotte was just what the doctor ordered. In each of the first two quarters, Los Angeles outscored the Bobcats 30-18. Kobe Bryant scored 24 points (only 1 assist) in 28 minutes and Andrew Bynum cashed in for 20 points and 11 rebounds before the starters gave way to the bench—which scored 48 points (Charlotte’s scored 30). In boosted minutes, Troy Murphy and Andrew Goudelock scored 12 points each. For the ‘Cats, Gerald Henderson had 14 and Kemba Walker chipped in 12 points and 6 dimes, but there was nothing to smile about for head coach Paul Silas. The weird part is, as unsurprising as this massive blowout was for the Lake Show, Charlotte had won 8 of the previous 11 meetings between these two teams. Also, what does Eduardo Najera have to do to get some playing time around here? He was the lone DNP-CD for CHA.

Line of the Night: Joe Johnson scored 30 points…in three quarters. Then, he chilled on the bench.

Moment of the Night: OJ Mayo finds Tony Allen and the Grizz send things to OT. In the extra period, Rudy Gay makes a monster play on D to keep Memphis in the game. Mayo then hit the go-ahead trey to lead Memphis to the W.

Dunks of the Night: The two best throwdowns from last night came from the same game—first watch as first Deron Williams sons Roy Hibbert, and then see Paul George go with a reverse pump on the fast break.

Tonight: 11 games on Wednesday, highlighted by an ESPN doubleheader of Thunder-Mavs and Clippers-Jazz, plus the Rockets visit the Spurs and the Bucks host the Heat—last time they met, Milwaukee took home the win in Miami, 91-82. Also, the struggling Magic get a chance to right the ship against my Wizards. Dwight always dominates Javale McGee, so an early congratulations to Orlando. Until tomorrow, peace.

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  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    Kyrie Irving was killin again last night.

  • Myung

    Joe probably could’ve gone for 60 last night if he wanted to. He had a terrible first month, but he’s playing like an All Star again lately, albeit against mostly bad teams. It is shocking to me how bad some of the teams in the East are right now. Between Charlotte, Washington (sorry, Abe), Toronto, New Jersey, and Detroit, we’re talking about some seriously terrible teams (I’m giving CLE a slight pass for playing decent ball, thanks to Kyrie and Verejao). Basically, a 0.500 record will get you a 7 seed in the East this year. Miami and Chicago can book their tickets to the ECF. I think Atlanta (especially if we get Horford back by April), Indiana, and Philly will be frisky, but I don’t see anyone else playing in the ECF besides MIA and CHI. Such an easy path this season…

  • http://nba.com GP23

    Word. Kyrie and Ricky are neck and neck now for this ROY. It’s all to play for.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeLRym4Q-pg Allenp

    The East has two super teams, about four tough, frisky teams, and two also rans that will make the playoffs.
    The West has no super teams, about three serious contenders and five tough frisky teams.
    It’s an interesting situation. I can’t decide which conference is really better because I honestly don’t think any team out West is on Miami or Chicago’s level this year, regardless of what their record is. That said, by next year, the West could have four serious contenders while the East will definitely likely only have two.

  • Heals

    GP give Kyrie Rudy’s teammates and it’s not even close. Fascinated to see JWall v Kyrie going forward cause of their situations. Kyrie, while not in a garden has solid surroundings whereas JWall is going to have to a flower that blooms thru a sidewalk crack with how Wash is right now…

  • http://slamonline.com. datkid

    this^^. very soon it’ll be D.rose vs Wall vs Kyrie instead of Chris Paul vs D.Will vs D.rose

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Kyrie Irving’s teammates are severely underrated if you think giving up Rudy’s teammates would make it “not even close” – Top 3 players on each team, Minn: KLove, Beasley, Rubio – Cleveland: Verajao, Jamison, Irving. – Which shows the top 3 players on Cleveland are all better then everyone on Minnesota except Love. Add in the total lack of roster flexibility in Minnesota, their logjam of 6’2″ and under players, and a Center rotation of Darko Milicic and Nikola Pekovic you begin to notice the teams are much closer in terms of skill then the name value would lead you to believe.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeLRym4Q-pg Allenp

    Nah, Minnesota has a clear talent advantage, in my opinion. Beasley has all-star talent when his head is straight. Love is a franchise cornerstone. No one on Cleveland’s team is on that level.
    Now, the Cavs have better role players for sure, much, much better, but as far as top end talent, the Wolves are better. Don’t forget Wes Johnson and Derrick Williams are former lottery picks. I don’t think they can be written off just yet.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeLRym4Q-pg Allenp

    But, I don’t think Kyrie would do any better than Rubio. Rubio is the perfect guard for his team.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Talent advantage yes. Skill and Production advantage? Not really.

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    The Nuggets sure did choke in Memphis last night. Where was the great Gallo with his “clutch” shooting with the game on the line? At the very least I thought Cough Drop Sucking Karl would put the ball in Gallo’s hands at the end, to see if he’d be able to head jerk his way to the free throw line.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeLRym4Q-pg Allenp

    Really IAMORANGE?
    You show up now? After weeks of silence as your Knicks stunk up the joint you randomly show up on a night when the team beats one of the three worst squads in the League, and you decide to rip other players?
    That is just shocking.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    I fell off my chair.

  • http://nba.com GP23

    And I spat out my drink.

  • http://Slamonline.com Caboose

    Relax Allen, once the Bulls beat the Knicks by at least 20, we won’t see ORANGE for a while again. Which will be nice.

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    @Allenp, I always comment when I can (or want to) no matter what happens with the Knicks, so sit down and have a nice tall glass of STFU. And FYI, I was posting and toasting in the comments section here at SLAM yesterday. I didn’t just “show up” today after a Knicks win. Bottom line, you alluding I’m a front runner type fan is so
    egregious you should be taken out back and tarred and feathered! lol

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    @Caboose my comment at 12:32 also applies to you!

  • Myung

    I think the East now has more superstars than the West (which happened because a lot of the worst teams were in the East for the past decade, hence a lot of the top lottery picks are now maturing into studs… and a lot of trades and free agent signings brought great players East, to boot), but the West is easily the better conference, top to bottom. Even though I love my squad, let’s not kid ourselves: the Hawks have a really great record because we’ve played such a weak schedule. Same goes for the Sixers. I’m not saying either team isn’t legit; I’m just saying, our records (ATL and PHI) have benefitted a lot from our schedule thus far. I still think the Hawks, Pacers, and Sixers will put up a fight vs. the Bulls and Heat, but it’s really a two team conference. It could be said that other than Chicago and Miami, the West’s top 10 teams are all on par with Indiana, Atlanta, or Philly. Out West, the Grizz, Lakers, Clips, Mavs, and Thunder have legitimate shots at making the Finals. The Nuggets and Spurs will also have something to say, and the Rockets, Jazz, Blazers, and even the Timberwolves are also up and coming teams who should all be battling for that 7th and 8th spot. Again, I’d say the East has more STARS and arguably the two best teams in the entire L, but I don’t think it’s a contest as to which conference is the better one. That being said, I think the East will win the ASG and the NBA champ will be either Miami or Chicago so there’s that.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Where were you for the last 2 weeks, after day after day after day of hearing the same, the Knicks are a force talk that occured up until well, it was plainly obvious you were wrong. That’s a pretty weird coincidence you disappeared with the Knicks hopes at actually being a factor. but whatever.

  • Allenp

    Man, you are the frontrunner of frontrunners.
    Fall back on that “when I have time to comment stuff.” Yeah, folks have different schedules, but you were AWOL for weeks. WEEKS!
    Man, everybody noticed it.

  • Allenp

    Myung
    I agree with you.
    I think the West has great depth. Even the the most garbage teams record wise out west are competitive, while in the East everybody knows that Charlotte and Detroit are pretty much guaranteed wins right now.
    You can’t say the same for Sacramento or Golden State or even Phoenix.
    But, is it better to have serious depth, or have teams that feel like legit juggernauts?
    Next year, I expect the Clippers and Thunder and maybe even Grizz to join the discussion for best in the League, while I don’t expect any teams in the East to make that leap. But, I’m trying to decide if right now having the two teams that I expect to decide the championship in your conference makes you a better conference.
    Although, I could be horribly wrong about OKC and the Clips.

  • logues

    ill say this… if the twolves are above .500 and make the playoffs kevin love is a legitimate top 5 mvp candidate…. maybe even top 3

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjRXTy-stnI IAMORANGE4EVER

    I was here all last season and through the entire playoffs dog. Like I said, have a nice tall glass of STFU. Anyone who thinks I’m a front runner fan is just hating and looking dumb in the process. Not everyone lives on SLAM. Real talk. ;)

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjRXTy-stnI IAMORANGE4EVER

    I’m glad you missed me, Allenp. *blushes* ROFL!

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    That’s what a front runner would say haha

  • Myung

    Allen, whoever gets Dwight Howard is going to make the Leap. Nets, Knicks, Lakers, Clips, Mavs, whoever. The Magic seriously need to trade the dude because they’re playing uninspired ball, but they’re not going to trade him before the ASG because I just don’t think they want to see Dwight coming back to Orlando as a visiting player. It’s nice to have that superstar hosting the All Star Weekend. But as soon as the ASG over? I think he’s gone. I’d be shocked if he’s still on the team 5 days after the All Star break.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Never thought about that Myung. That’s good logic.

  • http://Slamonline.com Caboose

    ORANGE, if you really aren’t a frontrunner, why do you have ZERO support? The two most regular commenters on here (nbk, Allen) are against you. Wouldn’t they know best as to whether you’ve been here or not? All we need is Jukai and JT to back us up, then you have no defense. Cause dude, you have been gone. GONE.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    The Sixers or IND could make that leap if they get a star/go-to player or someone on their roster becomes one (highly unlikely).

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    The thing is, for the Sixers to add a star (which they ARE apparently looking into) they would have to give up Andre Iguodala. Who as quietly been one of the best players in the league this season.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjRXTy-stnI IAMORANGE4EVER

    nbk, is the season over with yet? I only missed a few weeks. Not even a month. I’ve seen certain Heat fans go MIA longer than that after their team got eliminated by Dirk’s Mavs! Won’t mention any names. In the end, I promise I won’t “leave” ya’ll for two weeks again. I won’t do that to ya’ll ever again. SMH! I can’t get over how some of my “SLAMILY” really MISSED me in the comments section! That’s love right there. :) I bet my SLAM return from about a two week “hiatus” is trending on Twitter. That’s right SLAM…ORANGE IS BACK AND BREAKIN’ ANKLES!

  • eyal

    Regardless of record, I’ve got Philly as the 3rd best team in east (more consistent than ATL). I actually think they will be a bigger headache for Chicago than any other team leading up to the ECF. Yes, even the Pacers.

    I love watching Miami play, but this year, I have Chicago going to the finals. I was expecting the Heat to go on an epic MJ 95-96 style rampage this year. I think they have been incredibly inconsistent given the talent and depth they have this year (even compared to last year) and especially given that the overall talent pool in the east has taken a huge drop (Is anyone even bringing up Orlando or Boston anymore?).

    Its a crapshoot on the westcoast. If Zbo comes back and can actually compliment Gay (how long has it been since they both played together? a year?) I would want to see them go to the finals. Definitely my favourite team this year. Remember when everyone was joking that they were Atlanta west with max contracts on mid level players with no chance of getting past the second round?

    Other than the grizz I have 1.OKC 2.Denver 3. Dallas 4.Lakers 5. Clippers 6.Portland 7. Utah/Twolves

    Open ended question, is Andre Miller playing like an all-star this year? I’ve only got CP, kobe and Westbrook ahead of him in terms of guard production (not going by numbers, just having watched a lot of games).

  • Myung

    The Hawks could make that leap if we keep adding has been’s on our roster. We’ve already got T-Mac and Stackhouse. Kenyon Martin put us on his short list. I’m just waiting for us to sign Stevie Franchise, Allen Iverson, Steph, D Miles, and Qyntel Woods*. We’re putting together the SLAM Magazine 90′s All Star Team. We’re ready to make that leap. :)

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    if your talking about Eboy then you are just talkin out of you ass. Dude is here all the time, he just doesn’t take part in the conversations. He has one comment here, one there. Basically, since all the OG’s moved to Twitter, Eboy has been here sparingly.

  • http://www.reverbnation.com/tray24 T-Ray

    I think it’s safe to say that the ROY race isn’t as close as many would like to think. I’m sorry maybe cuz I’m a Duke guy but Kyrie is that man and with Tristan Thompson I think the Cavs will be scary in the near future. Oh and the Celtics are the kings of damn near or losing big leads in the 4th quarter. But they make crazy comebacks so I guess it balances out.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    I think the clippers can beat any team in the playoffs, and also lose to any team in the playoffs.
    Right now, given the equality of coaching between Vinny and Scotty Brooks, I’m not sure the Thunder can beat the Clips in the playoffs.
    Also, the West has some interesting coaching situations. Mike Brown, Scott Brooks, vinny del negro and george karl are all leading contenders. Now, of that group, Karl obviously has the best coaching acumen, but that’s like being the tallest person at a midget convention.

  • Myung

    I’m not sold on Philly over Atlanta. Philly has a lot of depth, but you’ve got to remember, we’re winning ball games without Al Horford, who historically has been the heart and soul of our team (although he was having a very subpar year before he got hurt three week ago, which should be mentioned, for objectivity’s sake). If you look at our team’s seasons pre-Horford (when we still had Joe and Josh), we were terrible and were a lottery team. WITH Horford, we’ve never missed the Playoffs. So losing him for 3 months isn’t some minor detail. It’s not like we lost Zaza or Marvin Williams. Al is a two time All Star, but most importantly, he brought in a winning attitude (two NCAA rings) and helped transform our franchise from a doormat to a winning team (albeit with a ceiling) with his hustle and defense and rebounding. He’s more popular among fans in Atlanta than Josh or Joe, and his absence is a huge blow for us. I still think Philly is a nice squad, and Doug Collins is a fine coach, but if Horford is back by April, I think Atlanta is the team that could give Miami or Chicago more trouble than Philly. That being said, it doesn’t matter if Atlanta, Philly, or Indiana takes them to 5, 6, or 7 games… I still don’t see how either of those two teams won’t make the ECF. They’re head and shoulders above the rest of the East.

  • http://wagesofwins.com/2012/02/01/kyrie-irving-is-not-the-rookie-of-the-year/ nbk

    Click my name T-Ray. It would actually appear that Kyrie isn’t really the front-runner among NBA people.

  • Myung

    Allen, good point on the coaches. A lot of people would throw Miami’s coach Spo and Atlanta’s Larry Drew into the mix, along with Utah’s Ty Corbin and Indiana’s Frank Vogel. Lots of mediocre and/or unproven coaches, leading some fairly strong teams.

  • http://www.reverbnation.com/tray24 T-Ray

    That was a nice breakdown nbk never seen it like that. Me personally I would take Irving. It almost reminds me of the early Rose vs Rondo debates how Rose was labeled more as a scorer and Rondo a facilitator. Either way I don’t think you can go wrong.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjRXTy-stnI IAMORANGE4EVER

    I didn’t even have to mention his name, nbk. Pretty pathetic that you have to LIE about things to paint the picture you like of certain commenters you like. The truth is, Eboy took a LONG LONG break from SLAM after Dirk’s Mavs won the chip. Hell even JTaylor21 disappeared for a while. In fact I actually came to JTaylor21′s defense when people were hating on him. I said at least JTaylor21 was funny, whereas Eboy is just a grumpy arsehole who deserved the heat. And nbk, you saying “OG” sounds so funny to me. You really take your “career as a commenter” here at SLAM serious! I bet that gets under your skin too, because I speak the truth about your lil punk arse.

  • http://wagesofwins.com/2012/02/01/kyrie-irving-is-not-the-rookie-of-the-year/ nbk

    OG is just short for originals. And naw, you can say whatever you like, I don’t care. like I said yesterday, I’m not confused about how insignificant commenting on the internet is. But i’m getting paid while I do it….so

  • http://wagesofwins.com/2012/02/01/kyrie-irving-is-not-the-rookie-of-the-year/ nbk

    T-Ray, I think Irving is a better basketball player. But I think Rubio has more of a positive affect on his team. if that makes sense?

  • Myung

    not ALL the OG’s moved to Twitter. I’ve been commenting and writing to and on SLAMonline since 2002. I’m not as consistent as some of you (got married and had two kids since then, which keeps me busy), but I still consider myself an OG. To be honest, I think Allenp and hursty and darksaber are the only OG’s I still recognize (I basically only visit The Post Up so if other OG’s are commenting elsewhere, I’m not even seeing them). I guess by OG, I’m talking about cats who were on here from the get go, not just the past 2 or 3 years.

  • http://www.reverbnation.com/tray24 T-Ray

    Yeah nbk I get you man. I honestly think that if you were to switch the teams Irving’s assist total would boost.

  • http://wagesofwins.com/2012/02/01/kyrie-irving-is-not-the-rookie-of-the-year/ nbk

    It probably would, but his efficiency would also plummet. lol

  • http://wagesofwins.com/2012/02/01/kyrie-irving-is-not-the-rookie-of-the-year/ nbk

    Myung by OG’s I meant the originals writers that used to comment, “Bryan” and a few other guys. The only other “originals” (which I guess I consider the group before me) that still comment here are, you (which has been a nice resurgence btw), Jukai, AllenP, Eboy, & TADOne.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    Aye…keep my name out of this. I’m not even a Heat fan to begin with.
    I’m not sold on the Grizz (with ZBo) taking the next step. I used to be high on RGay but now….not so much. He has an inflated view of himself (talent wise) and his role on the team. MEM was at its best last season when they went inside-out but now with RGay back, they have reverted back to playing outside-in. I think LHollins made a mistake when he said that Randolph has to adjust his game whenever he comes back because MEM isn’t “taking that next step” with RGay as their primary shot taker.

  • http://wagesofwins.com/2012/02/01/kyrie-irving-is-not-the-rookie-of-the-year/ nbk

    that’s why I didn’t even address him bringin you in.

  • Myung

    My resurgence is only because my Hawks are relevant so far. If we hit a 5 game losing streak, I’m going to go back into hiding. haha. But on the real, like I told my guy eboy (I’ve been Facebook friends with him for a few years now and can confirm that he’s a good dude, outside of his salty attitude on this site), SLAM as a whole has kind of fallen off. The web site AND the magazine. I will ALWAYS love SLAM (been down since issue 1 in 1994, been down with the site since the orange and gray days when Lang was updating the Links every 2 PM), but I just don’t feel like it’s the same. Maybe it’s me getting older, but even if I were a younger guy, I don’t know if I’d like SLAM as much as I used to. Even when I’m not commenting, I’m often checking SLAMonline, but I definitely don’t come on here as often as I used to. Too much name calling and people putting others down for my taste. I like a good sports debate, but I feel like in the past few years, this site went from being a good source of NBA debate to just another message board full of trolls and guys with e-muscles who are so quick to put someone else down. I guess I miss the old days.

  • http://wagesofwins.com/2012/02/01/kyrie-irving-is-not-the-rookie-of-the-year/ nbk

    I miss the old days too. I was a big part in how sh*tty it’s become, so for that I apologize, way to confrontational. I know for a fact the writer’s had a huge issue with the group that came in like 2006-07, showed no respect for anybody. Hopefully it turns around a little bit. Normally the beginning of every season is really bad, then the people trolling kind of fall off and get bored or whatever.

  • http://slamonline.com/ Abe Schwadron

    Let’s keep the hate directed at my writing, OK guys? Cool!

  • http://wagesofwins.com/2012/02/01/kyrie-irving-is-not-the-rookie-of-the-year/ nbk

    Write something for us too hate lol, stop doing a good job Abe.

  • Myung

    That’s real big of you to own to that, nbk. Much respect to you. I think you and Enigmatic and JTaylor and Diesel and the lone ranger among OG’s, Allenp have been doing a good job of stirring up solid hoops conversation (sorry if you’ve been a regular for the past 2-3 years and I’m leaving you off… not intentional).

  • http://wagesofwins.com/2012/02/01/kyrie-irving-is-not-the-rookie-of-the-year/ nbk

    It’s all good, my “reputation” or whatever around here doesn’t really matter too me, I just really enjoy talkin hoops instead of twiddling my thumbs at work. I been here for 5 years now, off and on (holy sh*t 5 years! I didn’t realize it’s been that long). I honestly think Slam can get close to how it used to be in the comment section. There are still the old heads & A lot of the new(er) regulars know their sh*t, JTaylor, Enigmatic, LA Huey, Caboose, niQ, Black Rick Kamla – and we still got the guys that came in around the time I did, T-Money, Tarzan, bike ect. (sorry if I missed anyone) so there is still plenty of intelligent basketball talk goin on.

  • eyal

    Myung, no question the Hawks have the more talented roster (IVAN JOHNSON!), but I think they are much weaker psychologically. Philly is an average team empowered to success by their positive coach and each team member’s understanding of their role on the court. They’ve also ‘bought into the system’ which I don’t see happening with the hawks’ current roster. I would put the pacers in the same category as philly, but I don’t like the pacers. It’s a irritional disdain for them, their logo, their name, their colors and uniforms going back at least 15 years that I can’t quite explain.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Nick Tha Quick

    @ Myung While SLAM has sure changed a lot since around 05 (or whenever they opened up commenting), it is still IMO waaay better than the other hoops sites out there like BSPN, NBA.com, Yahoo or God forbid Youtube. SLAM has it’s share of trolls and e-thugs just like the rest of them but for the most part, I think it’s much less and these don’t hang around here too long. There a few relatively newer commenters like Maniac who don’t spew their idiocy on here but actually make meaningful and well supported statements, whether some agree or not with their opinions. It’s definitely fallen off a lot but I think there’s a few commenters, both old school and new, that make it worthwhile to come in here.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    The Hawks definitively have more talent/playoff experience than the Sixers and Pacers but the key remains whether or not JJ can be consistent night-in and night-out in the playoffs. ATL’s playoff hopes hinges on JJ because he’s the only one on that roster capable of creating shots for himself. Also, dude has to find a way to get to the rim and line during the playoffs because a steady diet of stepbacks and fadeaways isn’t gonna cut it.

  • Myung

    Good points, all, eyal. But this isn’t the same Hawks team of years past. The primary difference is the rise of Jeff Mookie Teague, our first legit point guard in 15 years. The other difference is the veteran leadership and depth off our bench (Hinrich, T-Mac, Vlad Radmanovic, Willie Green, Jannero Pargo, and Jerry Stackhouse… in addition to old rookie Ivan Johnson). We’ve been one of the League’s youngest teams the past several years, but all of a sudden, we’re a veteran laden and deep team, which has been particularly important in this 66 game sprint of a season. Now Joe and Josh and Marvin and Teague can sit out and let the bench handle things, unlike in the past, where we usually had just one serviceable bench player (Jamal Crawford) and a bunch of scrubs. Just like you have an irrational disdain for Indiana, I have an irrational love for my hometown team and in my biased viewpoint, we are the third best team in the East, particuarly once we get Al Horford back from injury. Agree to disagree?

  • http://wagesofwins.com/2012/02/01/kyrie-irving-is-not-the-rookie-of-the-year/ nbk

    ^ cosign that, and where have you been Nick? gettin busy out here in Phoenix with this 75 degree weather huh?

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    JTaylor21 you are a Heat fan, because you are a Bron Bron fan. Wherever Bron Bron plays, you are a fan of that team. You live and die with Bron Bron. LOL!

  • http://Slamonline.com Caboose

    Thanks for the shout out nbk. Gotta say that as a whole I love the commenters here; y’all are the reason I’m on this site and not somewhere else. Just by reading through your words, it’s fun to build a little charicature of who each regular is and how they see the game of basketball. But since it’s been a while since I joined a debate, I figure I might as well start one: who is (are) the over .500 team(s) to miss the playoffs in the west?

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    I think the Hawks are better without Horford, to be honest. Joe and Josh seem more focused and comfortable getting their points. I like Horford, but I always felt that his game was weird. He is straight pick and pop, with some fairly inefficient postups mixed in. He’s pretty good on defense, good on the boards, but I always felt like he wasn’t a game changer when I watched. He looked good compared to JOsh and Joe when they were playing dumb, but I always believed his ceiling was lower.
    Without him, Joe seems to be in takeover mode more, and he’s scoring in more ways. Josh is also hustling, and they are pairing Josh with a stronger big, which helps the team overall. IMO

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    And I think the T-Wolves or Houston miss the playoffs.

  • http://Slamonline.com Caboose

    Allen: Portland and Memphis are both over .500 but are currently 9 and 10 seeds respectively. Will they also miss the playoffs? Cause there’s potentially 4 over .500 teams that might not make the playoffs in the west.

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    Utah &/or Houston – Minn ain’t at .500 yet

  • http://Slamonline.com Caboose

    ^Yet.

  • Myung

    We’ll see what happens, Allen. Honestly, since losing Horford, we’ve had a really easy schedule. If we continue to win without him, once we actually start playing better teams, I might actually join your way of thinking (which is hard for me, because #15 is my favorite player… but I’ll try to be objective). Against real competition, I think the Hawks miss him a lot. But against weaker foes, Joe, Josh, Marvin, Teague, and the bench have been more than good enough. But again, we’ll see… maybe you’re right.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Good call Nick. There are a few trolls on here, but there’s a reason decent basketball discussions typically go down on here more-so than anywhere else. Even myself, who is considered a “bad guy” on this site, when compared to the trolls on other sites…. phewwwie, this site is head and shoulders above all others. P.S. @Myung, Hawks are more legit than ever before. Although I still don’t think they can beat the Bulls or Heat in a series(wouldn’t mind watching that though!).

  • http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/2011/12/serious-talks-for-3-team-trade-that-could-send-howard-to-nets/ IAMORANGE4EVER

    I’d like to add, that nbk’s “job” can’t be that important/gratifying if he’s “twiddling” his thumbs while he works. Just sayin’! Maybe that explains why he’s such a confrontational prick on SLAM? There is so much anger and self-loathing inside that manchild! I still get a chuckle about his “entire career as a commenter” comment he directed at me back in December 14th. Click my name to see it, and yet this hypocritical cat tries to act like he doesn’t take this SLAM commenting that serious. The truth is that natural born douche comes off so wound tight you could stick a piece of coal up his arse and have a diamond after about a couple weeks. LMFAO!

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    I’m a westbrook fan and got 3 Thunder games on my DVR, does that also make me an OKC fan?
    How bout out East, who has a better chance (IND or PHI) of going deep into the playoffs?

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    I wish you could do that, I wouldn’t have to work. nbk Posted: Dec.14 at 2:55 pm
    Can’t find that name anywhere on twitter kap. @SooperFadeaway is me. Hey Orange, I honestly couldn’t think of a homer on this site I would rather have supporting Amar’e then yourself. It’s delusion that got him $100M guaranteed, it’s delusion that keeps people believing he’s worth it. Your entire career as a commenter is based on the same thing. Its perfect.

  • http://Slamonline.com Caboose

    ^Speaking of trolls, Myung.

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    My job is irrelevant Orange, I’m not here to talk about myself or my past comments or whatever (are you tryin to embarrass me or something lol I don’t get what your doin) – JTaylor I think Philadelphia is in the best shape to go deep in the playoffs. Mainly because of Doug Collins.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    What counts as deep?
    I will be shocked in any team besides Miami or Chicago gets past the second round.
    Now, the Pacers and Sixers could both get out of the first round if they catch weaker teams though.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Oh and my Twitter handle is AjpDos in case we’re exchanging them.

  • Heals

    @JT I can’t decide man. I think that Chi series was great learning experience for the Pacers, so I lean that way, but the more I think about it the more difficult it is to decide. Then again Phili has better odds at winning their division and the possibility of an easier 1st round match-up…

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    Allen I was just posting the commen Orange brought up and it just happened to include my Twitter. My bad

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    By deep I meant the second round (that isn’t so deep after all) but it is to Phili and Indiana fans.

  • eyal

    Agreed Myung! I can see it going either way. After MIA and CHI, it’s extremely debatable who is going to come out on top between 3 and 7 seed – which is part of the fun. And now that I’m thinking about it, everyone’s dismissed boston because of their regular season drought, but we all made that mistake when they went beastly in the 2010 playoffs. If they are healthy in April, I wouldn’t count them out of doing some serious damage.

    Have to say I prefer the west coast matchups more. Much more contested, many good and very good teams that will end up with records only a few games apart. Plus you have those .500 teams that don’t even make the playoffs! Honestly, Stern should have used his veto power last year and given the pacer’s spot to a WC team. 36 wins and 8th seed, wtf.

  • http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/2011/12/serious-talks-for-3-team-trade-that-could-send-howard-to-nets/ IAMORANGE4EVER

    JTaylor21 I don’t care what games you DVR, I know for a FACT you are a LeBron James stan. You watch him LIVE. lol

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    it’s your prerogative (britney spears’ style)

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    I’ve dismissed Boston because Garnett appears allergic to driving to the cup. If he still drove on occasion I would give them a shot, but he doesn’t even look to get to the rim anymore.

  • http://wagesofwins.com/2012/02/01/kyrie-irving-is-not-the-rookie-of-the-year/ nbk

    I haven’t seen KG take a ball too the hoop since I was in college.

  • http://slamonline.com. datkid

    Is it bad that I’m still crying about what ALLENP said to ORANGE ? LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO and I don’t know MYUNG… maybe I’m being a biased heat fan but chicago has yet to show they can give miami any REAL trouble to me. I mean does anyone else think that Rip really won’t be able to contain wade in the playoffs? That lebron in the post means that luol deny will have considerably more trouble guarding him? that when all else fails that Chris bosh will still be able to get his buckets against bulls front court?

  • http://www.slamonline.com Slick Ric

    I thought iamorange4ever was somewhere drinking his self to death trying to escape the misery that is the knicks.

  • http://sdjklff.com Jukai

    Myung: kinda offended you included Hursty and Darksaber and I am left on that list. Not feeling the love here. I drove the writers away from posting here, damnit. I deserve recognition.

  • http://wagesofwins.com/2012/02/01/kyrie-irving-is-not-the-rookie-of-the-year/ nbk

    lol you are mad you weren’t given credit for making the Slam comment section worse, or just for not being considered an original?

  • http://sdjklff.com Jukai

    Also, I have a twitter, but I don’t think I’ve used it in about six months, so probably not a good place to get in contact with me. Facebook is a lot better, I still try and harass Eboy, Bryan and TAD as much as I can there.

  • http://sdjklff.com Jukai

    NBK: A little of a, a little of b.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Well I think me and you aimed the most hate at the writers then anybody. Well I was just a hateful prick at the time. And you just had some weird fued with Ryan, Brad, and someone else, was it Ben?

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    Wade struggles vs the Bulls continue into the playoffs (similar to last season). His tendency to take bad shots and force the action works against decent-to-good defense teams but the bulls are too disciplined in their assignments and rotations (expect for Boozer) which leads to bad shooting nights/games for Wade. I think that continues into the playoffs whenever both teams meet up. MIA is fortunate that they have 3 guys capable of scoring 25-30 on any given night, so they can afford to have one of their Big 3 play badly and still win the game/series. The Finals are a different story.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    That was me. My Bad Allen.

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    @JTaylor21, you are schizo like that bald fat dude in the movie Identity (2003) if you are seriously trying to play like you’re not a LeBron James player fan, hence you are a Heat fan. And @datkid that frontrunner comment directed to me by Allenp wasn’t at all funny, but maybe it was to you, because you’re a (Fred Sanford voice) big dummy.

  • http://sdjklff.com Jukai

    Allen: it was Ryan and Miles. they hated me and actually tried to get me banned. Sigh, I miss their antics.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Nick Tha Quick

    Since we’re all getting sentimental about SLAM and commenting in general, one of the most hilarious posts was a few years ago when some dude commented that guys on SLAM should listen to his rap song and tell him what they thought and he provided a youtube link. Sure enough, it quickly broke down into just how bad everyone thought it was. Poor guy. AND he really thought he had some serious skills. Good times. @ nbk I’m good. Trying not to blind myself watching the Suns. Michael Redd. Seriously. Don’t know how Nash shows up each day with a straight face. I’d be Dwighting with other teams by now.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    That was me. – Ryan used to go hard in here. Nobody was more brutal then the farmer.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Nick, man Nash is a good dude isn’t he? idk if I would be able to do it. (And I never got that page you tried to link me to or whatever that was a couple weeks ago, idk if it was important or anything but thought you should know)

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    What the f*ck is he talking about? *kanye face*

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    And again, I would like to say I severly underrated Raymond Felton in Portland. I didn’t think he’d fit in that well. Even though he’s shooting terribly, it’s still plainly obvious (to me atleast) that I was wrong about his fit on that squad.

  • jazz

    gotta say i am feeling the sixers in the east this year. my lakers are just letting me down. i might be the only one who thinks this but would love to see agent 0 in l.a. the knicks are extremely disappointing this year. could someone explain to me the allure of msg, being that i aint from the states

  • jazz

    oh and i mean the garden not the stuff in food. excuse my lack of punctuation

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    NBK got my info I think, and I got his.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    yep my bad i saw it right when the page loaded after i submitted that commenT at 4:34

  • Myung

    My fault, jukai.

  • http://Slamonline.com Caboose

    Seeing as we’re talking about past commenters, who’s been your favorite troll over the years? Spanny? Fake JTaylors? MUBWAR? This should be fun.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    The Nerve. And it’s not even close.

  • http://nyill.wordpress.com Enigmatic

    The fake me was pretty bad.
    Racist, homophobic, anti-military, and would use anything I ever said on here against me.
    But I can see how he may not have been a big deal to anyone else.

  • http://nyill.wordpress.com Enigmatic

    ZOGS is getting there with his blatant racism.
    He actually drove DarkSaber to stop commenting which ticks me off cause Dave is that dude.

  • http://Slamonline.com Caboose

    Gotta agree on ZOGS. Don’t know why he hasn’t been banned.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    The worst (imo) was greek dude. And Me. I was a terrible troll. Same with Jukai (and whoever else it was). Pushing away the writers was the worst sh*t to happen to the comment section, aside from twitter.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    What is Darksaber’s Twitter Enigmatic because I do like dude’s thinking, even when we disagree.

  • http://nyill.wordpress.com Enigmatic

    Allen – @b_ballistics

  • http://www.slamonline.com Slick Ric

    Favorite troll: I think his name is eddie, the guy who always references the illuminati.

  • http://sdjklff.com Jukai

    Myung – I was playing, it’s cool.
    My favorite troll was The Nerve. I didn’t like the Enigmatic troll at all, his racist rants actually drove me away from here for a while (I was tired of seeing them).
    I used to hate The Seed but I’ve grown to like him. His responses are like the sun rising every morning, he never changes and it is refreshing.
    Philosopher is pretty terrible, especially because people put up with him, haha.
    NBK: we weren’t trolls, we were fighting the system, man. And hey, in fairness, Allen and Eboy went pretty damn hard on the writers too, the top-50 thing was the last straw.

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    Lol fair enough man

  • http://Slamonline.com Caboose

    Gotta say, that this year’s top 50 was pretty rough on the writers…did anyone defend them for more than a couple of spots?

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    I know we let them know when the actual write up was good. The rankings however were umm questionable(?!?) at times, and so many publications have copied the summer tradition that it’s like a big judgement festival.

  • http://Slamonline.com Caboose

    We did, but we also took arms against a lot of rankings and then even went after the writing. I know I did that on the CP3 and Dwight pieces (though Sandy listed Dwight’s stats last year as 18/13 when he put up 23/14). Not to mention, scroll through any of the 1-10 rankings and count how many posts are just trolls or first time “uneducated” commenters. It’s a shame.

  • http://slamonline.com Enigmatic

    I was never racist! I spoke the truth. Anti-military? Yes cuz there’s nothing wrong with having morals. I don’t like baby killers. Jew-kai and Enigmatic are the worst things to happen to Slam and I hate their rotten guts!!! NBGhey is pretty awful too. Allenp is soft. Lakeshow needs to one himself. All of you are lame for this man on man love fest. Next you’ll want to meet and have sword fights. Gross!

  • dazzy

    Worst troll ever is Jukai. Semi-racist overtones in too many comments.

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    The top of the 50 (1-10) is always inundated with casual commenters. The bottom 50-49 has kinda become the best part of actual basketball conversations

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    50-40*

  • http://www.slamonline.com Nick Tha Quick

    Greek dude’s gotta be the worst. Anna this Anna that. Bull22 came close to it (and totally embarrassed the Bulls faithful in here while he was at it) until they made medicinal legal in Illinois and he finally calmed down. The Top 50′s used to be decent (although often questionable) but they started slipping on some of the top10 write ups and even some of the rankings insulted any decent fan’s intelligence. It’s pathetic sometimes knowing what angle certain commenters will take when you’re watching the game even before coming in here in the morning. The worst are those whose teams/fav player can do no wrong and the commenters that deliberately go after these guys.

  • Myung

    Man, I wish I got to see what this infamous Greek guy wrote. I guess maybe it’s better that I missed out.

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    .He would have driven you away prolly

  • http://Slamonline.com Caboose

    Myung: Take whatever MUBWAR says, add capitals randomly, remove any semblance of grammar, and switch DeRozen for any Euro player. That’s Greek Dude.

  • http://www.t-mac.com/tmac/index unf*ckwitable

    @Myung, no you dont dude, greek guy was terrible. So pro euro it hurt plus you could barely make sense of his posts and he would just lock a thread down with his crap.

  • http://www.t-mac.com/tmac/index unf*ckwitable

    haha the capitals, i forgot about that, Crazy mofo.

  • http://slamonline.com. datkid

    I used to read about the greek guy and be so confused….I’m a newer commenter so bulls22 was propably the worst troll I ever really experienced. Also I like how as soon as he was mentioned the fake enigmatic showed up lmao.

    btw allenp dark saber, I just followed both of ya’ll on twitter

  • http://slamonline.com. datkid

    and orange we all thought that what allen said to you was hilarious. but whatever

  • http://dsfjklf.com Jukai

    Nice to see fake Enigmatic is actually one of the casual commentators, he came in right on queue. Jeez.
    Greek Dude wasn’t terrible, really, he just had awful opinions and had no idea how to be civil about them. The only real trollish thing about him was when he started spouting IVERSON STARBURY IVERSON STARBURY IVERSON STARBURY eight thousand times.
    I remember when he had mentioned as a kid, he truly thought Toni Kukoc was going to be a top-10 player of all time. So I just straight up asked him, “so… what exactly happened?”
    And he gave a few half hearted excuses and finally admitted he had no idea. And it was both funny and depressing, the man was legitimately depressed about Kukoc’s lack of success in the league.
    Bull22 was pretty bad but I was on hiatus for most of his damage, I just ignored him.
    Actually, SLAM is pretty stable right now.

  • http://www.fiba.com Darksaber

    What the….?
    I bypass Slamonline for a few days and there’s a reminiscing session going on on TPU?
    And Orange is back? (u were hiding though, u know it. Own your team, good and bad times)
    Someone asked about FAVORITE TROLLS? Isn’t that an oxymoron?
    Then to top it off, RIGOMATIC JUST PUTS MY TWITTER NAME OUT THERE? HOW DARE Y….
    Just kidding on that last one, not mad at the enigmatic one, he’s a good man.
    Always surprised to see anyone from the SlamFam interested in following me on Twitter anyway, me with all my Mavs ranting and comic/movie/pop culture references.
    It’s great to see MYUNG back on Slamonline even with his busy schedule, one of my fav people to read here (and count your blessings you missed out on Greek Guys reign of terror).

  • http://www.fiba.com Darksaber

    Slamonline is still my fav bball outlet, paper or digital and i check the site out daily, subscribe etc. But the comments section is taking a wrong turn, obvious lunatics (ZOGS) are getting free reign here and i don’t wanna revert to 2005-Darksaber, getting into insult laden comment fights with ignorants and racists.(Jukster and i had a few of those)
    I’ll just pull an Eboy, and be a silent observer, adding to the conversation when i feel like it.
    Life’s too short to be wasting my time with f*cktards like ZOGS!
    Y’all have fun now.

  • http://slamonline.com Jones

    Playoffs is gonna be so fun to watch this year. My list.
    East
    Heat, Bulls, Sixers, Hawks, Pacers, Celtics, Knicks (they have too much talent to not make it in the east), Bucks or Magic if they dont trade Dwight.
    West
    Thunder, Denver, Spurs, Portland, Lakers, Clippers, Mavericks, Grizzlies. Damn the west is deep. Cant rule out the Jazz or Wolves.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/officerbarbrady what

    One vote for Greek Troll as the worst troll from me. ANTONIS FOTSIS! DIMITROS DIAMANTIDIS! ALLEN IVERSON IS THE WORST PLAYER IN BASKETBALL HISTORY!

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    i’ve been a long time reader on this site so i know some OG’s semi OG’s and trolls. But I rarely comment. I really ENJOY reading the best b-ball site on the face of the earth. and the most knowledgeable b-ball commenters are here! Although, The Seed, GREeK DuDe. those were top of the line trolls. book it LOL.
    and where’s my man Anton these days? The funniest commenter here. We’re the only real Cavs fans left after July 8 last year. haven’t heard on him lately or he jumped out on our team too? He used to write for Slam too right?
    and I’m happy some of you guys finnaly noticing Kyrie more these days (i see you NBK)

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    What up J hard know of its always the same dude with such an intricate name lol. But man I’m ashamed I didn’t see irving being this good or this good right away i should say.

  • http://www.fiba.com Darksaber

    One more thing: majestic galloping Unicorns.

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    NBK. you and shutup has somethin goin on this past few weeks eh? Slamily is still the best.
    Anyway Kyrie is LEGIT. Rubio too. In due time we’ll have some talk on the this point guards thingy.. If time permits me to comment more regular here instead of just reading you guys (stupid job and different time zone).

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    He had some words about me personally when he first came in here as shutupallenp, so i have no patience with him and now he be instigating confrontations with me, talks in circles, then claims some kind of argument dominance that really doesn’t make any sense. We are talking about facts and opinions. Facts are there too read and opinions are what they are. Lol
    .
    .
    But I look forward to that conversation. I’d like to see how optimistic a Cleveland native is about Irving long term. Later man.

  • Myung

    What up, Dark! Hope you’ve been well!

  • Myung

    This Greek guy must have been something special… haha… everyone keeps talking about him.

  • Mike from Spain

    The Greek guy used to sign as Spanoulis, and used to call a player… (I think it was Iverson) something silly like ‘emma’ … I remember how everyone used to go at him because of the silly nicknames he invented for players.

  • Mike from Spain

    ah, no , it was not emma, it was anna!

  • http://www.twitter.com/hurstysyd Hursty

    Man.. I miss the old days…

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Majestic galloping unicorns!

  • OneShot

    Good to see OG comment thread. Reading the trolls boring. Probably been brought up before, but why not registration? I know it won’t stop trolling entirely, but i reckon it would encourage the BBall community feel you get with this thread, surely a good thing?

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Fake Enigmatic came out of the wood work as soon as he was mentioned. That’s some eery sh!t right there, lol.

  • http://www.fiba.com Darksaber

    Teddy: confirms what i always assumed about him and other name- bizarro world copycats:
    It’s a regular commenter’s alter ego, probably someone with those deep seated opinions who knows the Slam commenters wouldn’t take kindly to such rants, and with a healthy dislike of ‘matic.
    Solution is to pretend to be him while spouting his true views, then after the cleansing, continue to write normally under the usual alias.
    Hmm, wonder who…..?

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