Wednesday, February 1st, 2012 at 8:35 am  |  150 responses

Post Up: Back On My Grizzy

Memphis stops skid in OT, while the Lakers, Hawks and Knicks cruise to easy wins.

by Abe Schwadron | @abe_squad

I was in the building last night for the Knicks’ blowout win over the Pistons, 113-86, as was CC Sabathia (no, we didn’t sit together sadly), so we might as well start there on a night with seven NBA games on tap. Madison Square Garden is the most famous basketball arena on the planet. So it’s sad when a crap basketball game is played there. Okay, okay, the Knicks looked pretty darn decent, led by a rejuvenated Landry Fields and sparked by the return of Carmelo Anthony, but the Pistons are a super-bad team, and I don’t mean that in the cool way. By mid-third quarter, this game was borderline unwatchable—but give credit to the Knicks for shooting 60 percent from the field and solving their offensive woes for one night, at least. Melo scored 25 points and had 6 assists, heating up the Knicks’ offense early on. Fields was hotter than anyone, scoring 16 of his 18 points in the first half and hitting 4 of 6 three-pointers. In the first half, New York made 6 threes and shot 66 percent, opening up a 57-45 halftime edge. In the third, Detroit scored only 12 points. In the fourth, it was borderline torturous hoops for a neutral observer. Hateration aside, the Knicks will have a second chance to impress us all on Thursday against the Bulls. This was only the Knicks’ second win in the past 11 games, and snapped a three-game slide. Detroit’s Greg Monroe scored 11 in the first quarter, but only two points the rest of the game (plus 12 boards and 4 steals). The Pistons played selfish, confused, and like a team with very little talent. Probably because those are all true. Don’t be fooled by Jonas Jerebko’s 15 points, most of that came in garbage time against the Steve Novaks and Jeremy Lins of the world. On to the rest of the night’s games:

Celtics 93, Cavaliers 90

It was almost dejà vu for the Celtics last night, as they saw a comfortable lead shrink down the stretch thanks to the playmaking ability of Kyrie Irving, the man who snatched defeat from Boston just two nights prior, as this time he scored 13 points in the fourth quarter. But the C’s held on—barely—and improved to .500 at 10-10, behind 20 points from Paul Pierce. At one point, Cleveland trailed by 22, and at the end of three quarters, Boston was up by 16 points. The Celtics, still without Rajon Rondo, shot 51 percent from the field, but nearly crumbled in the fourth, when the Cavs outscored them 32-17. Anderson Varejao had a huge game, with 20 points and 20 rebounds (including a crazy 10 offensive boards), Irving finished with 21 points and 6 assists, and Alonzo Gee got jiggy with it for 2 of his 11. The Cavs got to within 2 points with 1:18 left on an Irving driving layup, but Kevin Garnett (13 points) responded with a short jumper and Cleveland fumbled its next possession, allowing Boston to escape with its fifth win over the last six games.

Pacers 106, Nets 99

Injuries, turnovers and Paul George vs. Deron Williams. Those were the themes from this game. From the injury department, the short-handed Nets played without Mehmet Okur, MarShon Brooks and DeShawn Stevenson, while Indiana’s George Hill suffered an extremely painful-sounding “chip fracture” in his ankle in the third quarter and did not return. Turnovers: each team had 19 (DWill had 6 for New Jersey, while Roy Hibbert and David West had 5 apiece for the Pacers). As for Williams and George, while they rarely matched up against one another (duh), they were the two big factors scoring-wise for their respective teams—DWill dropped 34 on 10-20 shooting to go with 7 assists, while PG scored a career-high 24 points. And more highlight-y, each player threw down dunks that will immediately be in the discussion for jam of the year. See below for video evidence. Indiana led by as much as 18 in the fourth quarter, and while the Nets came within 3 twice in the last 2 minutes, the Pacers got to the free throw line and held off New Jersey from there to move to 14-6 on the year.

Hawks 100, Raptors 77

Joe Johnson likes playing against Toronto—in his last four games versus the Raptors, he’s averaging 30 points, which is exactly how many he scored last night. Oh, and he didn’t even play in the fourth quarter, as the Hawks dismantled the Raps, taking a 56-37 lead by halftime and riding to their 16th win on the season. Atlanta was hot, shooting 51 percent from the field, while Toronto couldn’t get anything going offensively without Andrea Bargnani. The Raptors shot just 37 percent and were led in scoring by Jerryd Bayless, who scored 14 points on 4-of-11 shooting. No other Toronto starter scored in double figures, while ex-Raptor star Tracy McGrady dropped 15 (and 1 memorable assist) on his former team in 21 minutes off the bench. With the win, Atlanta finished 4-1 on their longest road trip of the season. Unfortunately, their next such trip won’t be quite as easy, as they travel to play the Lakers, Suns, Blazers, Bulls and Knicks in consecutive games after a four-game homestand.

Grizzlies 100, Nuggets 97 (OT)

Memphis was down by 13 in the second half, and by 10 with just over 6 minutes to play, but roared back to get a much-needed win after losing four straight games, thanks to clutch performances from, well, everyone, but mostly OJ Mayo (18 points, including the go-ahead three-ball with 35 seconds to go in OT) and Rudy Gay, who did it on both ends of the floor. Gay racked up a crazy 20-13-5 line and had a critical block during overtime to keep the Grizzlies in the game. Memphis won despite shooting just 38 percent, which was negated by 24 helpful turnovers from Denver. The Nuggets got big-time games off the bench from Al Harrington (23 points, 10 boards) and Andre Miller (20, 6 and 6), but fell to 14-7 after letting the Grizz creep back into the game, and tie it with under ten seconds left in regulation on a Tony Allen dunk. An Andre Miller runner rimmed out at the buzzer, and then Memphis staged yet another comeback in the OT. The Tams Grizzlies move to 11-10 on the year, and if they can sustain this kind of play until Z-Bo comes back, then look out. Allen scored 17 and Marc Gasol had 20 points, 13 rebounds and 3 blocks. Grizzly!

Warriors 93, Kings 90

The Kings led by 1 heading into the fourth quarter, but Brandon Rush sparked a crunch time rally for the Warriors, scoring 15 of his team-high 20 points in the fourth, and Golden State beat former coach Keith Smart. Rush and a lineup of reserves led GSW down the stretch, not the team’s two studs, Stephen Curry and Monta Ellis. In fact, the starting backcourt duo was planted to the bench for most of the fourth quarter. Curry had 8 assists, but scored just 3 points on 1-of-7 shooting, and Monta Ellis scored 12 points but made only 5 of 17 shots—together, they were 0-for-6 from the three-point line. With the pair struggling, the bench picked it up, and the Warriors protected the basketball (only 8 turnovers). Tyreke Evans had a monster, almost-triple-double-ish game, with 22 points, 10 rebounds and 9 assists in 44 minutes, and DeMarcus Cousins had 21 points and 14 rebounds, but Sacramento lost its fifth straight. Lastly, kudos to the fan who stole Rush’s towel after his post-game interview. Nice hands!

Lakers 106, Bobcats 73

For the Lakers, 3-5 in their last eight, Charlotte was just what the doctor ordered. In each of the first two quarters, Los Angeles outscored the Bobcats 30-18. Kobe Bryant scored 24 points (only 1 assist) in 28 minutes and Andrew Bynum cashed in for 20 points and 11 rebounds before the starters gave way to the bench—which scored 48 points (Charlotte’s scored 30). In boosted minutes, Troy Murphy and Andrew Goudelock scored 12 points each. For the ‘Cats, Gerald Henderson had 14 and Kemba Walker chipped in 12 points and 6 dimes, but there was nothing to smile about for head coach Paul Silas. The weird part is, as unsurprising as this massive blowout was for the Lake Show, Charlotte had won 8 of the previous 11 meetings between these two teams. Also, what does Eduardo Najera have to do to get some playing time around here? He was the lone DNP-CD for CHA.

Line of the Night: Joe Johnson scored 30 points…in three quarters. Then, he chilled on the bench.

Moment of the Night: OJ Mayo finds Tony Allen and the Grizz send things to OT. In the extra period, Rudy Gay makes a monster play on D to keep Memphis in the game. Mayo then hit the go-ahead trey to lead Memphis to the W.

Dunks of the Night: The two best throwdowns from last night came from the same game—first watch as first Deron Williams sons Roy Hibbert, and then see Paul George go with a reverse pump on the fast break.

Tonight: 11 games on Wednesday, highlighted by an ESPN doubleheader of Thunder-Mavs and Clippers-Jazz, plus the Rockets visit the Spurs and the Bucks host the Heat—last time they met, Milwaukee took home the win in Miami, 91-82. Also, the struggling Magic get a chance to right the ship against my Wizards. Dwight always dominates Javale McGee, so an early congratulations to Orlando. Until tomorrow, peace.

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  • http://wagesofwins.com/2012/02/01/kyrie-irving-is-not-the-rookie-of-the-year/ nbk

    I miss the old days too. I was a big part in how sh*tty it’s become, so for that I apologize, way to confrontational. I know for a fact the writer’s had a huge issue with the group that came in like 2006-07, showed no respect for anybody. Hopefully it turns around a little bit. Normally the beginning of every season is really bad, then the people trolling kind of fall off and get bored or whatever.

  • http://slamonline.com/ Abe Schwadron

    Let’s keep the hate directed at my writing, OK guys? Cool!

  • http://wagesofwins.com/2012/02/01/kyrie-irving-is-not-the-rookie-of-the-year/ nbk

    Write something for us too hate lol, stop doing a good job Abe.

  • Myung

    That’s real big of you to own to that, nbk. Much respect to you. I think you and Enigmatic and JTaylor and Diesel and the lone ranger among OG’s, Allenp have been doing a good job of stirring up solid hoops conversation (sorry if you’ve been a regular for the past 2-3 years and I’m leaving you off… not intentional).

  • http://wagesofwins.com/2012/02/01/kyrie-irving-is-not-the-rookie-of-the-year/ nbk

    It’s all good, my “reputation” or whatever around here doesn’t really matter too me, I just really enjoy talkin hoops instead of twiddling my thumbs at work. I been here for 5 years now, off and on (holy sh*t 5 years! I didn’t realize it’s been that long). I honestly think Slam can get close to how it used to be in the comment section. There are still the old heads & A lot of the new(er) regulars know their sh*t, JTaylor, Enigmatic, LA Huey, Caboose, niQ, Black Rick Kamla – and we still got the guys that came in around the time I did, T-Money, Tarzan, bike ect. (sorry if I missed anyone) so there is still plenty of intelligent basketball talk goin on.

  • eyal

    Myung, no question the Hawks have the more talented roster (IVAN JOHNSON!), but I think they are much weaker psychologically. Philly is an average team empowered to success by their positive coach and each team member’s understanding of their role on the court. They’ve also ‘bought into the system’ which I don’t see happening with the hawks’ current roster. I would put the pacers in the same category as philly, but I don’t like the pacers. It’s a irritional disdain for them, their logo, their name, their colors and uniforms going back at least 15 years that I can’t quite explain.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Nick Tha Quick

    @ Myung While SLAM has sure changed a lot since around 05 (or whenever they opened up commenting), it is still IMO waaay better than the other hoops sites out there like BSPN, NBA.com, Yahoo or God forbid Youtube. SLAM has it’s share of trolls and e-thugs just like the rest of them but for the most part, I think it’s much less and these don’t hang around here too long. There a few relatively newer commenters like Maniac who don’t spew their idiocy on here but actually make meaningful and well supported statements, whether some agree or not with their opinions. It’s definitely fallen off a lot but I think there’s a few commenters, both old school and new, that make it worthwhile to come in here.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    The Hawks definitively have more talent/playoff experience than the Sixers and Pacers but the key remains whether or not JJ can be consistent night-in and night-out in the playoffs. ATL’s playoff hopes hinges on JJ because he’s the only one on that roster capable of creating shots for himself. Also, dude has to find a way to get to the rim and line during the playoffs because a steady diet of stepbacks and fadeaways isn’t gonna cut it.

  • Myung

    Good points, all, eyal. But this isn’t the same Hawks team of years past. The primary difference is the rise of Jeff Mookie Teague, our first legit point guard in 15 years. The other difference is the veteran leadership and depth off our bench (Hinrich, T-Mac, Vlad Radmanovic, Willie Green, Jannero Pargo, and Jerry Stackhouse… in addition to old rookie Ivan Johnson). We’ve been one of the League’s youngest teams the past several years, but all of a sudden, we’re a veteran laden and deep team, which has been particularly important in this 66 game sprint of a season. Now Joe and Josh and Marvin and Teague can sit out and let the bench handle things, unlike in the past, where we usually had just one serviceable bench player (Jamal Crawford) and a bunch of scrubs. Just like you have an irrational disdain for Indiana, I have an irrational love for my hometown team and in my biased viewpoint, we are the third best team in the East, particuarly once we get Al Horford back from injury. Agree to disagree?

  • http://wagesofwins.com/2012/02/01/kyrie-irving-is-not-the-rookie-of-the-year/ nbk

    ^ cosign that, and where have you been Nick? gettin busy out here in Phoenix with this 75 degree weather huh?

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    JTaylor21 you are a Heat fan, because you are a Bron Bron fan. Wherever Bron Bron plays, you are a fan of that team. You live and die with Bron Bron. LOL!

  • http://Slamonline.com Caboose

    Thanks for the shout out nbk. Gotta say that as a whole I love the commenters here; y’all are the reason I’m on this site and not somewhere else. Just by reading through your words, it’s fun to build a little charicature of who each regular is and how they see the game of basketball. But since it’s been a while since I joined a debate, I figure I might as well start one: who is (are) the over .500 team(s) to miss the playoffs in the west?

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    I think the Hawks are better without Horford, to be honest. Joe and Josh seem more focused and comfortable getting their points. I like Horford, but I always felt that his game was weird. He is straight pick and pop, with some fairly inefficient postups mixed in. He’s pretty good on defense, good on the boards, but I always felt like he wasn’t a game changer when I watched. He looked good compared to JOsh and Joe when they were playing dumb, but I always believed his ceiling was lower.
    Without him, Joe seems to be in takeover mode more, and he’s scoring in more ways. Josh is also hustling, and they are pairing Josh with a stronger big, which helps the team overall. IMO

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    And I think the T-Wolves or Houston miss the playoffs.

  • http://Slamonline.com Caboose

    Allen: Portland and Memphis are both over .500 but are currently 9 and 10 seeds respectively. Will they also miss the playoffs? Cause there’s potentially 4 over .500 teams that might not make the playoffs in the west.

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    Utah &/or Houston – Minn ain’t at .500 yet

  • http://Slamonline.com Caboose

    ^Yet.

  • Myung

    We’ll see what happens, Allen. Honestly, since losing Horford, we’ve had a really easy schedule. If we continue to win without him, once we actually start playing better teams, I might actually join your way of thinking (which is hard for me, because #15 is my favorite player… but I’ll try to be objective). Against real competition, I think the Hawks miss him a lot. But against weaker foes, Joe, Josh, Marvin, Teague, and the bench have been more than good enough. But again, we’ll see… maybe you’re right.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Good call Nick. There are a few trolls on here, but there’s a reason decent basketball discussions typically go down on here more-so than anywhere else. Even myself, who is considered a “bad guy” on this site, when compared to the trolls on other sites…. phewwwie, this site is head and shoulders above all others. P.S. @Myung, Hawks are more legit than ever before. Although I still don’t think they can beat the Bulls or Heat in a series(wouldn’t mind watching that though!).

  • http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/2011/12/serious-talks-for-3-team-trade-that-could-send-howard-to-nets/ IAMORANGE4EVER

    I’d like to add, that nbk’s “job” can’t be that important/gratifying if he’s “twiddling” his thumbs while he works. Just sayin’! Maybe that explains why he’s such a confrontational prick on SLAM? There is so much anger and self-loathing inside that manchild! I still get a chuckle about his “entire career as a commenter” comment he directed at me back in December 14th. Click my name to see it, and yet this hypocritical cat tries to act like he doesn’t take this SLAM commenting that serious. The truth is that natural born douche comes off so wound tight you could stick a piece of coal up his arse and have a diamond after about a couple weeks. LMFAO!

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    I’m a westbrook fan and got 3 Thunder games on my DVR, does that also make me an OKC fan?
    How bout out East, who has a better chance (IND or PHI) of going deep into the playoffs?

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    I wish you could do that, I wouldn’t have to work. nbk Posted: Dec.14 at 2:55 pm
    Can’t find that name anywhere on twitter kap. @SooperFadeaway is me. Hey Orange, I honestly couldn’t think of a homer on this site I would rather have supporting Amar’e then yourself. It’s delusion that got him $100M guaranteed, it’s delusion that keeps people believing he’s worth it. Your entire career as a commenter is based on the same thing. Its perfect.

  • http://Slamonline.com Caboose

    ^Speaking of trolls, Myung.

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    My job is irrelevant Orange, I’m not here to talk about myself or my past comments or whatever (are you tryin to embarrass me or something lol I don’t get what your doin) – JTaylor I think Philadelphia is in the best shape to go deep in the playoffs. Mainly because of Doug Collins.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    What counts as deep?
    I will be shocked in any team besides Miami or Chicago gets past the second round.
    Now, the Pacers and Sixers could both get out of the first round if they catch weaker teams though.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Oh and my Twitter handle is AjpDos in case we’re exchanging them.

  • Heals

    @JT I can’t decide man. I think that Chi series was great learning experience for the Pacers, so I lean that way, but the more I think about it the more difficult it is to decide. Then again Phili has better odds at winning their division and the possibility of an easier 1st round match-up…

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    Allen I was just posting the commen Orange brought up and it just happened to include my Twitter. My bad

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    By deep I meant the second round (that isn’t so deep after all) but it is to Phili and Indiana fans.

  • eyal

    Agreed Myung! I can see it going either way. After MIA and CHI, it’s extremely debatable who is going to come out on top between 3 and 7 seed – which is part of the fun. And now that I’m thinking about it, everyone’s dismissed boston because of their regular season drought, but we all made that mistake when they went beastly in the 2010 playoffs. If they are healthy in April, I wouldn’t count them out of doing some serious damage.

    Have to say I prefer the west coast matchups more. Much more contested, many good and very good teams that will end up with records only a few games apart. Plus you have those .500 teams that don’t even make the playoffs! Honestly, Stern should have used his veto power last year and given the pacer’s spot to a WC team. 36 wins and 8th seed, wtf.

  • http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/2011/12/serious-talks-for-3-team-trade-that-could-send-howard-to-nets/ IAMORANGE4EVER

    JTaylor21 I don’t care what games you DVR, I know for a FACT you are a LeBron James stan. You watch him LIVE. lol

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    it’s your prerogative (britney spears’ style)

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    I’ve dismissed Boston because Garnett appears allergic to driving to the cup. If he still drove on occasion I would give them a shot, but he doesn’t even look to get to the rim anymore.

  • http://wagesofwins.com/2012/02/01/kyrie-irving-is-not-the-rookie-of-the-year/ nbk

    I haven’t seen KG take a ball too the hoop since I was in college.

  • http://slamonline.com. datkid

    Is it bad that I’m still crying about what ALLENP said to ORANGE ? LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO and I don’t know MYUNG… maybe I’m being a biased heat fan but chicago has yet to show they can give miami any REAL trouble to me. I mean does anyone else think that Rip really won’t be able to contain wade in the playoffs? That lebron in the post means that luol deny will have considerably more trouble guarding him? that when all else fails that Chris bosh will still be able to get his buckets against bulls front court?

  • http://www.slamonline.com Slick Ric

    I thought iamorange4ever was somewhere drinking his self to death trying to escape the misery that is the knicks.

  • http://sdjklff.com Jukai

    Myung: kinda offended you included Hursty and Darksaber and I am left on that list. Not feeling the love here. I drove the writers away from posting here, damnit. I deserve recognition.

  • http://wagesofwins.com/2012/02/01/kyrie-irving-is-not-the-rookie-of-the-year/ nbk

    lol you are mad you weren’t given credit for making the Slam comment section worse, or just for not being considered an original?

  • http://sdjklff.com Jukai

    Also, I have a twitter, but I don’t think I’ve used it in about six months, so probably not a good place to get in contact with me. Facebook is a lot better, I still try and harass Eboy, Bryan and TAD as much as I can there.

  • http://sdjklff.com Jukai

    NBK: A little of a, a little of b.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Well I think me and you aimed the most hate at the writers then anybody. Well I was just a hateful prick at the time. And you just had some weird fued with Ryan, Brad, and someone else, was it Ben?

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    Wade struggles vs the Bulls continue into the playoffs (similar to last season). His tendency to take bad shots and force the action works against decent-to-good defense teams but the bulls are too disciplined in their assignments and rotations (expect for Boozer) which leads to bad shooting nights/games for Wade. I think that continues into the playoffs whenever both teams meet up. MIA is fortunate that they have 3 guys capable of scoring 25-30 on any given night, so they can afford to have one of their Big 3 play badly and still win the game/series. The Finals are a different story.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    That was me. My Bad Allen.

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    @JTaylor21, you are schizo like that bald fat dude in the movie Identity (2003) if you are seriously trying to play like you’re not a LeBron James player fan, hence you are a Heat fan. And @datkid that frontrunner comment directed to me by Allenp wasn’t at all funny, but maybe it was to you, because you’re a (Fred Sanford voice) big dummy.

  • http://sdjklff.com Jukai

    Allen: it was Ryan and Miles. they hated me and actually tried to get me banned. Sigh, I miss their antics.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Nick Tha Quick

    Since we’re all getting sentimental about SLAM and commenting in general, one of the most hilarious posts was a few years ago when some dude commented that guys on SLAM should listen to his rap song and tell him what they thought and he provided a youtube link. Sure enough, it quickly broke down into just how bad everyone thought it was. Poor guy. AND he really thought he had some serious skills. Good times. @ nbk I’m good. Trying not to blind myself watching the Suns. Michael Redd. Seriously. Don’t know how Nash shows up each day with a straight face. I’d be Dwighting with other teams by now.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    That was me. – Ryan used to go hard in here. Nobody was more brutal then the farmer.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Nick, man Nash is a good dude isn’t he? idk if I would be able to do it. (And I never got that page you tried to link me to or whatever that was a couple weeks ago, idk if it was important or anything but thought you should know)

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    What the f*ck is he talking about? *kanye face*

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    And again, I would like to say I severly underrated Raymond Felton in Portland. I didn’t think he’d fit in that well. Even though he’s shooting terribly, it’s still plainly obvious (to me atleast) that I was wrong about his fit on that squad.

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