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Friday, February 17th, 2012 at 8:35 am  |  95 responses

Post Up: Clipper Comeback

Lob City outlasts Portland, plus wins for the Pacers and Bulls.

by Abe Schwadron | @abe_squad

One week from today, we’ll be getting giddy for All-Star Weekend 2012. Crazy, huh? This season’s been jam-packed from day one. So having only three games on the docket last night was a welcome breather. But don’t get too excited, we’re right back to double-digit game days starting tonight. Before I get ahead of myself, let’s do last night…

Pacers 93, Nets 89

Deron Williams scored 29 points and Kris Humphries added 24 points and 10 rebounds, but the Nets once again struggled with turnovers, and gave up 32 points to Danny Granger even on a bum ankle, and the Pacers improved to 18-12 on the season. A Paul George (11 points, 5 rebounds, 5 assists, 4 steals) jumper gave the Pacers the lead for good with 8:15 to play, and the win snapped a five-game losing streak for Indiana (their longest of the year). Roy Hibbert had 13 and 11, and David West 16 and 6, as the Nets never really got quite to within striking distance down the stretch. New Jersey was competitive all the way, behind a big first quarter from Humphries, who hit his first six shots, and Williams’ ability to create shots for himself. But for the second straight night, the Nets finished with 20 turnovers and lost a game in which they won outshot their opponent from the field—this time 47 percent to the Pacers’ 37—falling to 8-23.

Bulls 89, Celtics 80

Chicago keeps on trucking without the MVP in the lineup, as the Bulls got 23 points, 15 rebounds and 5 assists from Carlos Baldzer Boozer and 23 points, 10 rebounds and 4 assists from All-Star Luol Deng en route to beating Boston and improving to 11-1 at home (25-7 overall). The Bulls built a 16-point lead in the third quarter before seeing the Celtics storm back and take a 1-point lead early in the fourth on a Rondo-to-Wilcox alley-oop, but Chicago went on a 12-0 run soon after to pull away. Rondo had 17, 8 and 7, and looked for Wilcox alot (exhibits one and two), but it was Kevin Garnett who led the Cs with 18 points and 10 boards. Both teams shot worse than 40 percent from the field for the game, but the Bulls made 10 three-pointers to just 3 for Boston. The L is the fourth in five games for the boys from Beantown, and their next four games are on the road. Meanwhile, the Bulls’ rode three players with double-doubles (Booz, Deng and Joakim Noah’s 15×16) and are now 7-2 without DRose in the lineup.

Clippers 74, Blazers 71

TNT’s Steve Kerr called this “a lockout game” and “a boxing match.” I have a hard time disagreeing. Both teams had quarters in which they scored fewer than 13 points, and both shot sub-39 percent from the field. The fourth quarter featured little offense but a whole lot of hustle—most of which came from the Clippers, who erased an 18-point deficit from earlier in the game to come all the way back for their 19th win of the year. And they did it even without Chris Paul scoring his first point until the fourth quarter. Luckily, CP3 turned it on in the final period, and finished with 13 points. Poor Portland. On the third night of a grueling back-to-back-to-back, the Blazers held tough, even leading by two at 66-64 with five minutes left in the contest. But Mo Williams (15 points) and Paul hit consecutive three-pointers to put the Clips up by four, and they held off PDX (16-15) from there on out. Nicolas Batum scored 15 points on 6-7 shooting in the first quarter, but scored only 4 points the rest of the way, and had to leave the floor in the final minute after being hit in the face. Blake Griffin had 21 points and 14 boards, helping Lob City outrebound Portland 47-35 in the win—also the Blazers’ fourth straight loss at home.

Line of the Night: Carlos Boozer’s 23/15/5.

Moment of the Night: Doing my best to resists a “they shot the lights out” joke…

Dunk of the Night: Meet this year’s Dunk Contest favorite, Paul George.

Tonight: Pete’s back for Friday, then me again for Saturday—confusing, I know! Tonight he’s got 11 games, of which most of you will probably be most intrigued by ESPN’s Mavs-Sixers/Suns-Lakers doubleheader. Meanwhile, I’ll be kicking back with a tall adult beverage and drinking in Wizards-Jazz. Oh, and some guy named “Jeremy Lin” leads the Knicks against the Hornets, but I doubt anyone will be tracking that one.

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  • Myung

    Saw towards the end of yesterday’s Post Up that NBK is about to be a Dad. Congrats. That is such a big deal (much bigger than anything we talk about normally around these parts). Very happy for you. As a father of two (a 2 year old and a 10 month old), I can tell you its the biggest blessing you’ll ever receive. I think Nick The Quick is also a soon-to-be Dad. Good to see that the future generation of hoop heads is in good hands.

  • Myung

    Random observation (though it’s about 2 days late): I never bought into the Jimmer hype, but I know a lot of people did. Isn’t it crazy that Jimmer (in some circles, HE was the Tebow of the NBA) made his return to NY (where he’s from) the other night, and you didn’t hear a thing about it? Linsanity >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jimmermania.

  • Myung

    Not sure if you rememeber, but last season during the All Star Break, the TNT guys “drafted” All Star teams from a pool of ANY player to have ever played the game. Chuck got the first pick. Obviously, I would’ve gone with MJ, but you couldn’t really get mad if he took, say, Wilt or Russell or even Magic with that #1 pick. Who did he pick? Allen Iverson, of course. So it comes as no surprise that Shaq was able to draft Blake, Ricky Rubio, AND Jeremy Lin (just the three most popular players in the pool) in the rookie-sophomore game. Interesting note: both Blake and Ricky were drafted in 2009 (along with this year’s third year players like Harden and Teague and Jennings) yet both of those still qualified for this year’s rookie-sophomore game because of their circumstances.

  • http://slamonline.com. datkid

    ^^ I remember. everybody killed chuck for it. Hey a healthy Penny and A.I. could cover each other’s weaknesses in the backcourt right? I think that’d be really cool to watch.

  • T-Money

    john wall got NO love lol.

  • bull22

    both teams played badly and chicago’s grit came through and somehow got this victory. the toughest part of chicago’s schedule is march and april. ugly win but its a win.

  • Myung

    John Wall and Boogie are going to have nice games, since both absolutely killed it as rookies in last year’s game and they’re both playing better this season. Should be fun. I don’t think the format change was even necessary, but it’s a nice touch. BTW, Lin vs. Wall III won’t be much of a story because as big of a Lin fan as I am, I’m more excited about seeing Rubio drop dimes than Jeremy and I’m sure the rock’s going to be in Ricky’s hand more often than not. Other than LeBron and Kobe (who are ALWAYS talked about), the most talked about NBA players of the past year have to be Dwight Howard (where will he end up), Kris Humphries (for stupid reasons), Jeremy Lin, Blake Griffin, and Ricky Rubio. I still have no idea how Chuck couldn’t at least get ONE of those three guys (Lin, Blake, Ricky). I guess he wanted the all non-hype team.

  • http://www.racialicious.com/2012/02/15/memewatch-adventures-in-linsanity/#more-20490 Allenp

    Cool, I will watch an entire Lin game since I get the Hornets games free.

  • http://www.racialicious.com/2012/02/15/memewatch-adventures-in-linsanity/#more-20490 Allenp

    I’m telling, you this lockout has been great for basketball watching. They are basically giving away a huge number of games to rebuild interest.

  • http://www.reverbnation.com/tray24 T-Ray

    Allenp
    I agree but it has it’s cons due to the fatigue of all these games. A lot of low scoring games and just poor execution. Hard to play up to par when your legs are like pasta noodles. I was talking with my cousin the other day and we were saying that the only teams that aren’t affected by the lockout are the younger teams like OKC, Miami and even Chicago despite their injuries.

  • http://www.warriorsworld.net/2011/03/14/david-lee/ nbk

    Thanks Myung! I couldn’t be more excited. And yeah, Nick is expecting as well. Something about this arizona air lol

  • http://www.warriorsworld.net/2011/03/14/david-lee/ nbk

    Are they going to honor Kenny Smith writing Lin into the rookie sophomore game? I think they definitely should.

  • http://www.reverbnation.com/tray24 T-Ray

    Oh yea congrats nbk! And with the weather in Arizona when it’s cold more babies are conceived than in the summer go figure lol

  • http://redoftoothandclaw.ca/ niQ

    Congrats nbk!

  • http://redoftoothandclaw.ca/ niQ

    Team Shaq ftw.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    appreciate it fellas! — T-Ray, my best friend had a baby last sunday, two of my other boys got the same due date as me. My moms neighbor does too. 2 of my cousins just had kids in December. it’s nuts out here, #populationboom lol

  • Grand Hustla

    I think Lin’s gonna be the #1 pick. #2 is marswag brooks.

  • http://www.reverbnation.com/tray24 T-Ray

    That’s crazy man! Colder weather means closer contact then boom next thing you know you’re at lamaz(idk if I spelled it right)class haha

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    lol I’m pretty sure 9 months ago it was 110 degrees out here.

  • http://www.reverbnation.com/tray24 T-Ray

    You would know better than me I’m in Cali where the weather is more bipolar than The Game lol

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Lol I feel you — Anyone actually watch the Nets game last night? I hear Kris Humphries was a monster in every shape of the word (basketball wise) last night.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    I like the compressed season. I feel for the players, but it’s nice not having to wait 3 nights to see your favorite team play. Basically if they aren’t playing back to backs (sometimes back-to-back-to-backs), they’re playing every other day. Which for a fan is really awesome–it’s like a routine.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    right, but these guys careers would be like 6 seasons long if this was a yearly thing. Sh*t my fantasy team has already lost 3 of my first 7 draft picks, for the season.

  • http://slamonline.com/ Abe Schwadron

    Sounds like T-minus, what, 8 years? Until we see the “nbk All-Stars” AAU team out of Arizona….!

  • http://redoftoothandclaw.ca/ niQ

    @Grand Hustla. If you’re talking about the Rising stars thing they already did the draft last night. Shaq chose Lin with his 2nd pick. Blake was his first.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    HAHAHA that would be nice Abe, but I don’t know how I’ll do coaching girls….I’m probably a little to competitive.

  • http://www.reverbnation.com/tray24 T-Ray

    I was watching the Bulls game and they by far played the best ball I’ve seen when the opposing team goes 2-3 zone. They got so many easy buckets in the paint during the 4th quarter. Although the Cs pinched didn’t pinch enough at the top.

  • http://dsfklf.com Jukai

    Guess who has two thumbs and is going to the Rising Stars game?
    This guy.

  • http://www.racialicious.com/2012/02/15/memewatch-adventures-in-linsanity/#more-20490 Allenp

    The Bulls have good talent. I think the “Rose plays with bums” argument needs to be retired permanently.

  • http://dsfklf.com Jukai

    Oh damn, congrats NBK. I’m going to send the kid a tiny little Kobe jersey as a present.

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    Cosign Allen. – Juaki, I didn’t know your were a Suns fan in Orlando? How many of y’all are out there, 3?

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    Haha thanks Jukai, I’ll call her Mamba

  • http://dsfklf.com Jukai

    NBK: Actually, it’s weider. I was a Suns fan in New York. I just moved to Orlando a month ago.
    I’ve always been a Giants fan and a Mets fan, but basketball was different to me… I thought Barkley, KJ and Thunder Dan were awesome and as a kid who didn’t really get the whole ‘home team’ thing, I just rooted for them. And it just stuck.

  • http://nyill.wordpress.com Enigmatic

    Tim you need to send me your address so I can send y’all something when the little one arrives.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    I can DM it too you. But you don’t gotta send me anything other then Advice. lol

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Juks, I was gonna say, I thought I remembered you saying you were in the New York area. — Also that Suns team was so much fun, I understand how they started the fandom.

  • http://nyill.wordpress.com Enigmatic

    You spelled *Advil wrong.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    hahahahahahahhaaha lmao

  • http://www.slamonline.com Nick Tha Quick

    Shout out to Myung. Nbk you better not name the kid Lin. Fail. Like a kid in the early 2000′s being named Dajuan or Flip. Congrats man. Hope it all goes well for both of you.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Appreciate it Nick. And naw, don’t worry lol, we got a name picked out for the little one – nothing basketball related.

  • http://slamonline.com. datkid

    once again… congrats to nbk. You’ll be a great father man.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    appreciate it legro. but lets talk hoops people, I’m not big on all this attention.

  • http://www.reverbnation.com/tray24 T-Ray

    Don’t you just love a Post Up full of love? lol

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Y’all see that the league made Norris Cole part of the rookie sophomore game because of Jeremy Lin?

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Yo nuff of this nbk love(jp, I have 3 nephews less than 6 months apart they are all under a year old, if parenthood is anything close to as good as unclehood you are in for some great, fun times ahead, congrats and keep that kid grounded. Not grounded like he can’t leave the house, but grounded like he won’t murder an pillage the earth) So what do you all make of the Pacers? Honestly I think they are hot garbage. Not a bad team, but imo barely a 8th seed in a regular season. I can’t believe i’m hearing they are the 3rd best team in the east and all that. I would take the Sixers over Pacers everyday.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    (Thanks Lakeshow, I know it’ll be the best time in my life.) -
    .
    The Pacers are severely overrated. Comes with the “big FA acquisition” (who they are paying 20 million dollars over 2 years to score 12 points a game, not rebound, or guard anyone). I have been saying they won’t be much better then last season, since last season ended and word was that David West was going to sign with them and “improve” the team.

  • Myung

    Maybe I’m wrong for saying this, but I think parenthood is very different from Unclehood. The joys are infinitely more personal (because it’s your own baby); HOWEVER, the difficult parts (the LACK OF SLEEP, the fatigue, not getting to go out to nice restaurants and movies, traveling on with a baby is really difficult, changing diapers, the money it costs to raise a baby, etc) is also much more personal when it’s your own baby. That’s what grandparents (like my parents) love about grandkids. They get to spoil them and play with them for short periods of time, but when it’s all said and done, most, if not all, of the responsibility falls right back on the parents. haha. I don’t mean to discourage you at all. Parenthood is amazing, and again, it is the most rewarding experience a person could ever have… but it no walk in the park. I feel like being an aunt and uncle (because most aunts and uncles are in the baby’s life for short bursts) really doesn’t compare at all unless you’re actually living with the newborn. THEN you might truly understand both sides of the coin.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    I think Cole should have made it regardless.
    The Clipps half court offense is a travesty.
    I know I’ve said this before but CP is the best cruchtime player in the L.
    Jamal Crawford was the reason why POR lost last night.
    The clipps aren’t making it to the WCF with Foye/Mo as their 2 guards.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    it’s all good Myung, I’m fully aware of what I’m getting myself into. I love the responsibility that I am taking on, and am pretty sure i’m about as “parent” ready as a 24 year old can be. (Got a steady Job, own a home, I already have a crappy sleep schedule lol, don’t go out or party or anything like that, live in close proximity to both sets of grandparents and all (5) combined siblings – and my best friend of 18 years just had a baby girl last week, timing seems pretty extraordinary to be honest). I don’t think anyone could discourage me if they tried their best.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    JTaylor, are you sure Ray Felton isn’t why they lost last night? 0-7 with 5 turnovers. (I had a game, so I didn’t get too actually watch)

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Myung you are absolutely correct. I am enjoying the spurts. I don’t have a kid because I am selfish and don’t know if I want a baby to take away from myself. (the truth) Agreed nbk on the Pacers. West is a terrible FA “acquisition.” It’s not that he hurts the team, but i’m unsure of how much h helps the team. I know he hurts them in terms of cap flexibility. I like Collison, Paul G, Hibbert core, but they need a big FA to make them legit imo. Someone like Eric Gordon I feel would be a huge boost to a team like theirs. I wouldn’t say it was Felton’s “fault”, but he didn’t not help them lose lol. Felton’s being a stinker this year. Pisses me off cause I really like his game and know he should be a good PG for the Blazers.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    He had a hand in it but JCraw was the biggest reason. The game was in the balance down the stretch in the 4th when JCraw decided to go into his “ithinkiamthebestplayerinthenba” routine and took damn near every shot (good and bad) for the blazers. I don’t know if all the blame should fall on his shoulders because McMillian sat there and allowed it to happen but it’s not the first time dude has done that before in the NBA. He did it with the hawks, the knicks and warriors. There’s a reason why teams he’s been on having made the playoffs twice in his 11yr career.
    Also, Felton is strictly a PnR-type PG and his best PnR partner (LA) was out, so….that probably had something to do with his bad showing.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    The Porland fan base is really shooting for Jamal to start at the point, even today. And nationally media wise all the blame I’ve seen has fallen on Felton. — Plus he’s struggling for the exact reasons I thought he would this summer. I just don’t think he is a good fit for POrtand’s system.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Lake — Pacers supposedly going after E-Gordon this summer. But I wish they would have just stuck with Hansbrohe, he fits that team better then West does. And he makes up for Hibberts lack of mobility, unlike West, who is a defensive poopsicle.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    Because POR isn’t a fast-paced team?

  • http://www.racialicious.com/2012/02/15/memewatch-adventures-in-linsanity/#more-20490 Allenp

    NBK is talking greasy about the Pacers and West now that they’ve hit a rough patch. And ignoring that Granger’s numbers are done across the board for some reason.
    West is coming off major knee surgery without a training camp on a new team. He was a good pickup and that’s why the Celtics were salty he didn’t sign with them. The team has been losing based on failing to give consistent effort, not because of some sort of roster deficiency. Adn they are still well ahead of last year’s pace at the same time.

  • http://www.racialicious.com/2012/02/15/memewatch-adventures-in-linsanity/#more-20490 Allenp

    West spaces the paint and is a legit scorer that other teams still respect. I liked the West signing when it happened and I like it now. Nobody was talking greasy when the Pacers were smoking fools and they are currently six games over .500 and second in their division despite a crippling injury to George Hill their best bench player who was pushing to be a starter over Darren Collison.
    So everybody’s going to ignore the fact that George Hill has been out for nine or ten games? Bad business.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Hansbrough is = to West imo. Seemed like a lateral move with financial burden adding West. I didn’t know about them possibly going after Gordon. They should he would put take them up the East ladder a little bit. So far you were completely right about Felton. I figured they would cater to his style a little more, but I know Nate so I should have known better than to think he would change his game style and scheme for a new PG coming in. I don’t know if I like it, but a possible trade idea would be Lakers give Portland Pau and Blake, and the Blazers give the Lakers Felton and Batum or something along those lines.

  • http://www.racialicious.com/2012/02/15/memewatch-adventures-in-linsanity/#more-20490 Allenp

    And West’s minutes went from 35-36 to 29-30. And his shot attempts dropped by four. He’s actually rebounding at a higher rate now than he did in New Orleans.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    I’ve been saying the same stuff about the Pacers all season. And my point about West exactly. You don’t pay $10M a season for a guy who just blew up his knee and is a complete shell of his former self. Plus the only skill that sets him apart from any other PF is his scoring ability, which is pretty much non-existent at this point. Also I didn’t bring them up because of this rough patch either, I was responding to Lakeshow.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    There’s no reason to “talk greasy” when a team is playing well. I was expecting this slump and was surprised it took this long. Nothing wrong with waiting till what you expected to come true to happen before you start talking. West is a lack luster defender a mediocre scorer and is not a scrappy guy who is going to do “winning” things for you. The Celts were sore because they are literally sore. West would be backing up Kevin Garnett and we know where KG is at in his career.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    The Pacers offense is worse since they added West, despite picking up the pace. – There is no indication that he improved the team, no matter how much teams “respect” him. And is it really respect not letting someone shoot whose only real skill is mid-range shooting or is it just common sense? – And West’s minute & shot attempt drop still don’t explain the efficiency drop and drop in production per possession. Everything about West’s game is lower then last season. Even his rebounding rate. (his rebound numbers are only higher because he plays on a team that plays a faster pace and shoots a lower %, not because he is more productive.)

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    The Pacers are going to be a tougher out in the playoffs for either the Bulls or Heat than the Sixers due to their scoring ability on the perimeter and inside play.

  • http://www.racialicious.com/2012/02/15/memewatch-adventures-in-linsanity/#more-20490 Allenp

    Oh, didn’t see you were responding.
    In know way shape of form is Hanbrough= David West. That’s freaking ridiculous. When Hansrbough can average 19 points on a playoff team, and give Tim Duncan in his prime the business in the playoffs, then he can come talk to David West.
    West is more expensive, but he bolsters their starting frontline and allows Tyler to kill against bench players. It’s only a two year deal and they still have Tyler for like three or four years. Plus, after this year Posey and Jeff Foster come off their books, leaving them with like $10 million in cap space to add talent. West’s contract ends right when they have to re-up Hibbert. So they added serious talent without sacrificing long term flexibility. It was one of the smartest signings in the off season.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    This is by far David West’s worst season since 2004-05. It’s not even close.

  • http://www.racialicious.com/2012/02/15/memewatch-adventures-in-linsanity/#more-20490 Allenp

    Like I said, the Pacers looked great until George Hill went down with that ankle fracture. it messes up their bench rotation and kills some very good shooting for them.
    West is still struggling to get his legs back, but it’s a two year $20 million year. Who else were they spending money on/ What other free agent are they signing? Why not take a two year flyer on a legit scorer, figuring that by year two he’ll be back in form completely.
    I don’t see the downside here for the Pacers.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    West is still better then Hansbrough though, lets not get carried away. He’s just not $8M a season better.

  • http://www.racialicious.com/2012/02/15/memewatch-adventures-in-linsanity/#more-20490 Allenp

    And BS on the winning thing.
    Coaches love West. All of them rave about his toughness and work ethic. I agree that he’s a subpar rebounder and defender, but he can still score. He spaces the floor for them just by the threat of his jumper. Let’s see how he looks at the end of the season. Chris Paul looked much better his first year back from knee surgery at the end of the year compared to the beginning.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Chris Paul isn’t a 31 year old, 6’9″ PF who weighs 240LBs

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    I do understand it from the standpoint of they had money to spend, and plenty of cap space the second year. I just don’t like signing a guy in West’s position, for that much money, just to improve the team a marginal amount, if at all.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Hmm, not a bad contract. Forgot it was a small one. Tyler is = to West currently imo. West does some things better, as does Tyler. They bring about the same amount to the table. West is not going to get back to where he was. He was a 21,9 guy at his prime. He’s a sub 50% shooting PF that grabs 6 boards or so a game. He’s shooting 46% this year actually. Allen your right that i’m slightly to harsh on West. Not trying to go in on him. He’s a good solid PF. I just don’t really like the Indy team all that much. They are severely over rated if anyone thinks they are going to get any further than the 2nd round. I’m betting on a first round exit for sure. I don’t see them beating anyone that is currently in the Playoffs in the East.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    I would love West also when I coach the Hornets over those years. He was their 2nd best player. No choice but to love him. He isn’t going to play defense and is not going to do scrappy “winning” plays. Maybe it’s all the years of watching him match up with Pau that makes me underestimate him so much. I was actually disappointed when they didn’t have West in the playoffs last year because Pau has a field day with him.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    This team can beat New York in a series. (and vice versa) – If they end up 4 & 5 that’ll be a good series. I think Pacers would have a shot against Atlanta too considering there is no Horford.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    So you don’t see them beating an old BOS, young PHI that has problems scoring at times, a Knick team that was 7gms under .500 not too long ago and a bi-polar Hawks team?

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    JTaylor, no.

  • http://www.reverbnation.com/tray24 T-Ray

    Tyler in my opinion is a better start for the Pacers than West. Either way I think the hype surrounding them is a little premature.

  • http://www.racialicious.com/2012/02/15/memewatch-adventures-in-linsanity/#more-20490 Allenp

    Look at West’s shot attempts and minutes when he was putting up 21 and 9. Outside of the knee injury, his game has not fallen off a cliff. He’s showing the typical rust players show coming back from knee surgery.

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    I don’t think he’s getting his athleticism back. Just like Michael Redd. Over 30, torn ACL, players rarely ever the same.

  • http://www.reverbnation.com/tray24 T-Ray

    My bias for Tyler over West is probably due to the fact we have the same name.

  • http://www.racialicious.com/2012/02/15/memewatch-adventures-in-linsanity/#more-20490 Allenp

    He was never that athletic. He still has decent quickness. We’ll see.

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    Lol neither was Michael Redd.

  • Myung

    Hawks should have Horford back by April.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    I like the Hawks with out Horford. Or maybe I just don’t like Horford at the 5. It just bugs me. They should Start Zazu (or whatever his name is lol) at the 5 and Horford at the 4 with J-Smooth at 3. Probably leaves them with no bench, but I feel like they would be so much better.

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    At 100%? Or just eligible to play?

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    Marvin Williams is under appreciated. Guys having a really good season. Josh Smith can’t give you what he does from that position. And Zaza gets absolutely dominated by the upper echelon starting 5′s.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    So one player dominates him? lol. He seems to hold his ground every time I watch him. Josh won’t give you as many rebounds, but he’ll probably do more play making which they could use. He should garner as many blocks at whatever position he plays because he is a weak side defending shot blocker. Marvin is a great 6th man imo.

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    Zaza is a horrible starting Center, absolutely bad. Is that better? And Marvin is top 10 in 3pt % , you put Josh Smith their instead, the offensive space on the court gets cut in half.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Slick Ric

    Wth is wrong with the blazers, they have too much talent to be playing as poorly as they are.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    K, fine. Still don’t like Horford at the 5. Never will.

  • http://slamonline.com. datkid

    I forgot all about that hornets vs spurs series…. and I haven’t watched nearly enough psycho T to take part in this convo…smh and nbk whatever happened to jarrod collins at the 5? he’s a fouling machine but he can guard 5′s.

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    He is just a Dwight stopper. He was the Shaq stopper a few years ago. (he’s never actually stopped any of them, but he does as good a job as anyone) – Lakeshow, I hate Horford at the 5 too. Which is why pre-injury I thought Smith should e been dealt.

  • http://dsfklf.com Jukai

    Jeremy Lin made it on the top-10 for Race to the MVP.
    Damn, I think that’s ridiculous but it’s kinda hard to disagree

  • Myung

    It’s Jason Collins, not Jarron (his twin brother). He’s currently injured. And yes, you all are correct; he has an NBA job because he can man up bigger guys better than Zaza can. And Zaza is not a horrible starting center. While he’s not among the top 15 in the League, there isn’t much that separates #16 through #30 in this League. He’s very serviceable. Reliable mid range game. VERY good offensive rebounder. He’s limited defensively, but he is definitely not a terrible starting C. I’m with all of you though; I’d like to see Horford back at 4 (which was his position with the Gators) as well. But the flip side is, he’s been in the NBA for 4.5 years now. He’s been a Center the entire time, and even though he’s undersized, he’s a two time All Star and was All NBA Third Team last season. That clearly speaks to a lack of C’s in the League (Amar’e was 2nd Team All NBA at Center so that makes two out of the top three “centers” last year who are natural PF’s playing out of position, although Amar’e is back at PF now that Tyson is there)… but it also means he’s pretty darn good at doing his job, despite being out. I think the Hawks (even if we don’t make any moves at the break) can make it to round 2 with a line up of Joe, Teague, Marvin, Josh, Al Horford (when he returns), with Zaza, T-Mac, Vlad Radmanovic, Ivan Johnson, and Willie Green off the bench. But we’ve certainly got a ceiling and it’s Round 2 (as usual). So I’d totally be OK with them trading Josh next month and bringing in some draft picks and/or a real Center in return.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    Lin really needs to work on keeping his turnovers down. So far it hasn’t impacted the games he’s played in, but… He has 10 turnovers and there are still 1.5 quarters left to play. It’s becoming a problem.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    The Sixers are going through one of those “scoring” droughts I was talking about that will keep them from doing anything of significance in the postseason.

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