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Friday, February 3rd, 2012 at 8:36 am  |  113 responses

Post Up: Nuggetron

Denver powers past Lob City, plus the MVP at MSG and four other Thursday night games.

by Abe Schwadron | @abe_squad

A half-dozen games to look at from last night, and some goodies to break down. Last Post Up of the work week before we hit Super Bowl weekend. Let’s go not-Giants!

Grizzlies 96, Hawks 77

So much for first place in the Southeast Division, Atlanta. Rudy Gay scored 21 points as the Grizzlies dismantled the Hawks, leading by as many as 30 en route to snapping a six-year losing streak in Atlanta’s home arena. Memphis was up by 10 at halftime, thanks to a big run late in the half, and got 13 steals on the night—4 from Mike Conley, who entered the night No. 2 in the NBA in swipes per game. After a 4-1 road trip, the Hawks suffered just their second home loss on the year (16-7 overall) after getting to the free throw line only 9 times. Atlanta was “led” by 11 points from Josh Smith (two on a beautiful flush) and 10 from Joe Johnson, while Ivan Johnson chipped in 10 points and 9 boards off the bench. The Grizz, now 12-10, scored 58 points in the paint, which is the most ATL’s given up this season. Most of that production came via Gay, Marc Gasol (11 points, 10 rebounds), Tony Allen and OJ Mayo (18 points each). And shouts out to Dante Cunningham, my fellow Silver Spring, MD native, who racked up 8 points, 12 boards and 3 assists in limited minutes. Word up!

Bulls 105, Knicks 102

The Knicks trailed by 3 with 13 seconds to play, and Amar’e Stoudemire got a clean look at a top-of-the-key three-pointer, but it rimmed out. Somehow, Derrick Rose missed a free throw on the other hand, leaving Carmelo Anthony with one last chance at a game-tying heave, which fell short. Rose scored 32 points, including 15 in the fourth quarter—seemingly answering every time the Knicks began to make a surge, often in spectacular fashion—and added 13 assists to lead the East-leading Bulls to their NBA-best 19th win of the season. Melo, meanwhile, had 26 points but only 4 in the final period, and the Knicks allowed Chicago to shoot 53 percent from the field. The free throw disparity also sunk New York in this one, as they shot just 10-of-14 from the line to Chicago’s 21-of-29 at the charity stripe. The only Knick who could hit anything in the first half was Amar’e, who scored 18 of his game-high 34 points before halftime, while his teammates only made 9 of 24 first-half field goal attempts. Toney Douglas’ six-point contribution was the only bench scoring for the Knicks (8-14), who turned the ball over 5 times in a 3-minute stretch to end the first half that brought on the boo birds.

Spurs 93, Hornets 81

One night after scoring 25 points to lead the Spurs to a win over the Rockets, Tim Duncan came back with 19 and San Antonio got another W, this time against the West’s worst team, New Orleans. The Hornets hung tough for the first three quarters even with Jarrett Jack nursing an injury and Chris Kaman still sitting out until the Hornets can find a trading partner for his country butt, but could only score 13 points in the fourth quarter (when the Spurs got 22) and eventually couldn’t keep up with Duncan and the rest of Pop’s boys. Tony Parker had 18 points and 7 assists, Tiago Splitter chipped in 16 and the Spurs are now 12-1 at home. New Orleans starters Trevor Ariza and Jason Smith combined to shoot 4-of-21 from the field, while Carl Landry and Greivis Vazquez led the Hornets in scoring with 17 and 16 respectively. Thankfully for NOLA, their next game comes at Detroit on Saturday, the same day the Spurs face the juggernaut that is OKC. But hey, at least the Hornets’ loss provided one of my favorite post-game quotes so far this season, from head coach Monty Williams, who’s either extremely clever or accidentally hilarious: “We’ve had so many losses, they all sting.”

Kings 95, Trail Blazers 92

For a team considered by many to be one of the most dangerous in the West, Portland sure has trouble on the road. The Blazers are now 3-9 away from home, and have lost four straight road games (13-10 on the year). The Kings took advantage of bad second-half shooting from the Blazers and won despite 28 points and 14 rebounds from LaMarcus Aldridge—and despite turning the ball over with about 20 seconds left while clinging to a three-point lead. Luckily for Sacramento, the Blazers clanked a pair of threes in the final 10 seconds, ending with a 95-92 Kings win at the horn. Gerald Wallace played 40 minutes against (one of) his former team(s), but had just 8 points and 3 rebounds. SacTown beat Portland for just the second time in the teams’ last 14 meetings, as John Salmons scored 19, Tyreke Evans had 18 (but on 8-20 shooting) and Jason Thompson had a double-double (13×12).

Warriors 119, Jazz 101

Remember when Mark Jackson benched Stephen Curry and Monta Ellis for crunch time in their win over Sacramento on Tuesday? Yeah, he didn’t do that last night. Instead, they both played 38+ minutes, Ellis finishing with 33 points, while Curry had 29 and 12 assists. Throw in David Lee’s 23 and 14, and the Warriors were well on their way to an easy win over the Jazz, who were forced to start Jamaal Tinsley (and give him monster minutes) due to injuries. Okay, so Tinsley had 13 assists, including one ridiculous pass to Big Al Jefferson, but he shot 4-for-10 and the Jazz failed to keep up with Golden State. Utah was led in scoring by Gordon Hayward’s 21, while Jefferson and Josh Howard scored 19 each and Paul Millsap did his double-double thing with 15 and 11. But the W’s scored 40 points in a ridiculous third quarter and another 31 in the fourth—by my math that’s 71 (!) in the second half. Golden State is now 8-12, and while Nate Robinson shot 0-for-5 in 10 minutes, you should peep the Super Bowl predictions video he hosted, it’s pretty great.

Nuggets 112, Clippers 91

Early on, it looked like the Clippers were ready to roll over the momentum from a big win against the Jazz on Wednesday night, as they outscored the Nuggets 32-19 in the first quarter and Blake Griffin got free for a tremendous throwdown. Unfortunately, that was the high point of the night for Lob City, because starting in the second quarter, Denver brought the heat. Second quarter: 35-19 Nuggs. Third quarter: 32-16 Nuggs. Those middle two quarters turned a close game into a joke, with Denver using—shocker alert—a balanced scoring attack and 8 guys playing 19+ minutes. Danilo Gallinari shot 5-for-5 from three-point range, and finished with 21 points to lead the Nuggets, who also got 18 from Ty Lawson and 15 fro Arron Afflalo. Blake Griffin had 18 points on 9-12 shooting and Chris Paul racked up 15 points and 9 dimes, but Chauncey Billups made only 2 of his 9 shots and the Clippers let Denver shoot 53 percent from the field and LAC was outrebounded 41-28. The Nuggs are No. 2 in the West behind OKC, the Clippers No. 3. Denver’s upcoming schedule is crazy hard though, with the Lakers, Blazers, Rockets and Mavs up next, while the Clips get Washington and Cleveland in two of their next three.

Line of the Night: Derrick Rose — 32 points, 13 assists in a win vs. NYK.

Tweet of the Night: A post-game gem from Tony Allen, who continues to be one of the L’s best tweeters.

Moment of the Night: It’s not a buzzer-beater or a record-breaker, and the Kings win was far from pretty, but you have to appreciate the hustle from rookie Isaiah Thomas, who stopped a Blazers’ 3-on-1 fast break all by his 5-9 self.

Dunk of the Night: Amar’e or JJ? Tony Allen? Write-in ballots also accepted.

Tonight: ESPN has Knicks-Celtics and Lakers-Nuggets, part of a 10-game slate in all. Pete will have you covered, which means I’m sure there will be at least 400 words on the Knickerbockers, win or lose. Thank god he doesn’t do Mondays, because there’s a certain football game on Sunday that Pete and a handful of other SLAM family brethren have a lot invested in. If the Giants prevail, don’t expect much from me. I might skip town if there’s a parade. Anyway, enjoy the days off, I know I will!

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  • Myung

    Pretty pathetic showing by the Hawks at home, after a nice 4-1 road trip. As I’ve said, I feel like Atlanta, Indiana, and Philly are in that next tier in the East behind Chicago and Miami (apologies to the Magic and C’s), but Philly proved they could beat a really good team at home the other night (Chicago) while we proved we could lose to a pretty good team at home so the Hawks are certainly hurting my “Hawks are better than Philly” argument (although the thrust of my stance was based on a healthy Horford coming back for the postseason). Losing is one thing, but I thought the Hawks looked pretty lifeless last night. I keep using Philly and Indiana (we’ve lost to each of them head to head on the road) as measuring sticks, so we’ve got another shot to prove ourselves when we host Philly tomorrow night. We’ve got to play 300% better than we did last night though. Our boys just mailed it in last night (and Tony Allen is hands down one of the best, if not THE best, lock down defender in the NBA).

  • Myung

    BTW, great defensive play by Isaiah Thomas. The right play was probably a quick lob pass to Gerald Wallace from Matthews (or even a trailing lob to a quickly approaching Aldridge), but Wallace passed it to Matthews about a second too late and I guess Wes thought taking it up for the lay up was the best move. Good choice for moment of the night.

  • Myung

    I know it’s a 66 game season and dudes are tired, but I kind of feel like too many guys are clanking FT’s when they should be icing games. Did teams get rid of shooting coaches this season?

  • http://dsfjklf.com Jukai

    Did not watch any games yesterday. Woke up, decided to check the post-up instead of NBA(dot)com. I know my priorities.

  • Riggs

    Why in the hell is Amare shooting the final shot? dude needs to stop acting like he’s a small forward.

  • AD

    @riggs they drew the play for him idiot……………….. Where the clipper fans at lol

  • http://nba.com/celtics lights out

    Tony Allen is a remarkable athlete. that dunk brings back memories of him yamming on Antawn Jamison. enjoy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKrWR9DIpM0

  • http://www.twitter.com/hurstysyd Hursty

    Morning all,
    Quick quiz – when was the last time LeBron had a 50pt game?
    When was the last triple-double that involved blocks OR steals?
    Name 4 players who’ve hit 7 3′s in a game (not in a row).
    GO!

  • http://dsfjklf.com Jukai

    Hursty: WITHOUT GOOGLE!!!!
    -Lebron had a 50 point game against Orlando I believe… I want to say sometime in February…
    -That was Dwight Howard, it was with blocks. Steals hasn’t been done in a while. Something in my gut is telling me it may have been Marcus Camby though.
    -Kobe, Ray Allen, Monta Ellis, Jason Richardson.

  • http://www.twitter.com/hurstysyd Hursty

    Close! Bron had one against the Knicks in Feb 2009, and 2x vs the Bucks. (8 total). Had 56 (career high) vs Toronto in 2005 (age 20).
    Unsure about Monta ever hitting 7 3′s, but I can tell you that Bron did it too. Donyell Marshall hit 12 one time.
    Triple-double comment is correct. Believe Camby has done it too.

  • http://www.twitter.com/hurstysyd Hursty

    Damn, my comments refuse to go through.
    JR and Bron both have 7 3′s in a game. JR actually has 11. Donyell Marshall and Kobe have the record of 12.
    Dwight is correct, so is Camby (Nuggets).
    Bron had a 50pt game vs the Knicks (that ‘fake’ 50pt triple double) and vs the Bucks (the 7 3′s).

  • http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/2011/01/post-up-23/ Allenp

    Myung
    The first game back after a long road trip is almost always a trap game and typically team’s have issues with energy. So don’t take it too tough.

  • http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/2011/01/post-up-23/ Allenp

    And Denver deserves props for the way they win and play. The only problem is they did this exact same thing last year prior to the playoffs and then it all disappeared in the playoffs when they had to go against the Thunder in the first round. But, this year they should have a high enough seed that they will avoid OKC, so it may work.

  • http://www.twitter.com/hurstysyd Hursty

    I wonder if Denver win these games with JR Smith in the lineup.

  • http://espn.go.com/nba/recap/_/id/310203019/miami-heat-vs-orlando-magic Jukai

    Hursty: Click my name. I wasn’t sure about any of the other answers but I watched Lebron drop 50 points on Orlando last year. I’m a Lebron slurper, gonna be hard to ask me a question about him.
    I never knew he hit seven threes but I guess it was during one of those “I’m just gonna casually drop bombs at midcourt” days.

  • http://www.reverbnation.com/tray24 T-Ray

    Hursty I think if you had JR Smith to the lineup I could honestly see them making the Conference Finals depending on the seeding.

  • http://nba.com GP23

    @Hursty.. are these quizzes gonna be a regular occurence from now on?

  • http://espn.go.com/nba/recap/_/id/310203019/miami-heat-vs-orlando-magic Jukai

    I kinda like the vibe Denver has going on now, I don’t think JR would help at all. What about Wilson Chandler? Is he restricted or unrestricted?

  • http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/2011/01/post-up-23/ Allenp

    restricted.

  • http://www.reverbnation.com/tray24 T-Ray

    I think he is restricted until he’s done in China kinda the same way as Kenyon is at this moment.

  • http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/2011/01/post-up-23/ Allenp

    and George Karl keeps making comments about how much easier things are now and how he loves his team…
    They better get out of the first round with all his talk. I don’t want to see people giving them a pass for failing in the playoffs after praising him and them all year. Another first round loss is a complete failure.

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    First off, congrats to the Bulls winning last night, bulls22. Derrick Rose was spectacular. I believe the Knicks win that game last night if they protect the ball better in the 2nd quarter and Toney Douglas is half the player he was from last season. TD hasn’t been the same since that shoulder got messed up. Other than that, I was extremely happy with STAT attacking the paint at the offensive end. Fields is balling the way he did before the Melo trade last season. Iman Shumpert played pretty well in stretches. I just hope the Knicks can add a piece like JR Smith, along with a healthy B-Diddy. JR Smith would spread the floor with his ability to knock down that 3 ball. JR is playing for a contract the rest of this shortened season, and the Knicks would give him a great opportunity to earn one. Another thing, last night I’m seeing Jazz highlights, and I’m SMH…I sure wouldn’t mind having Jamaal Tinsley right about now holding it down at point guard while B-Diddy gets healthy. Picking up Bibby was by far the Knicks biggest mistake this off-season. I’d take Anthony Carter right about now. Knicks gotta do something at point…they can’t put all their eggs/hope in the B-Diddy basket. That is like playing Russian roulette with 2 in the chamber. Give Jeremy Lin some burn tonight! Go Knicks!

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    @Allenp George Karl is a spiteful fat f/uck. Most fat guys are. No offense to fat people out there.

  • http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/2011/01/post-up-23/ Allenp

    None taken.

  • http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/2011/01/post-up-23/ Allenp

    I said on Twitter last night that Melo regular constipates the Knicks offense.
    He’s the cheese of offense. It can taste and look nice in the moment, but you pay for it later.

  • http://www.optimabbc.be Max

    Orange still lives?
    And what duuh hell happend on yesterday’s post up?

  • http://slamonline.com. datkid

    whoa…. orange that post was totally unexpected. Also I can’t believe the bulls really almost lost to the knicks…… Sometimes you forget that the bulls aren’t nearly as good as their record would have them seem just like Lbj’s cavs. still tho.. smh

  • Nella

    @datkid: what did you expect from the Bulls? Deng and Rip are out, and their rookie had to play his first big minutes of they year. Rose went off, as usual. A win is a win, especially on the road.

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    Lol at NY’s PG situation.
    .
    .
    And good afternoon to y’all

  • http://nyill.wordpress.com Enigmatic

    Lol.
    ORANGE congratulates Bull22, of all Bulls fans on the site he congratulates the newest and at times most annoying one. Interesting.
    I suppose there’s mutual respect there for one another’s trolling.

  • http://slamonline.com. datkid

    I expected the bulls to stomp the fire out of them… the knicks somehow can neither score or defend properly. but whatever.

  • Myung

    Blatant fatism.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Nick Tha Quick

    Cosign Enig. Seriously. Bull22. Like Boomer would say,”STOP IT!”

  • http://slamonline.com. datkid

    LMAO cosign enig.. outta all the people he could’ve said something too…. SMH.

  • Ill Smith

    - Funny, I was just at the barber shop yesterday & cats were arguing that Joe Johnson was a superstar. LOL riiiite. I dont believe in any home team, sorry Ive just been trained this way. Kinda hard to believe when the Falcons cant get more than 2 points up or we gotta argue for Joe Johnson’s false superstardom but hey thats neither here nor there.
    - The Knicks big mistake was signing Tyson Chandler to that massive ass contract & it wont get better til they (A) fire Antoni & (B) get rid of Tyson. I know he’s the only one with heart out there but its almost like the Knicks didnt do their research on STAT & Melo. We all knew STAT thrives on good PG play, so how is supposed to be effective going after minimum PGs year after year? You got $60 million tied up between your ‘Big 3′, tryna follow Miami’s lead but thats not what NYK needs. Trade Chandler for an expiring deal & BUILD (not quick fix) around your 2 superstars: a point guard, shooting guard, center who just rebounds, bench scoring, blazay. Tyson’s $15 mill & the midlevel exception can do wonders for the team. But I forgot these are the Knicks Im speaking on, theyll continue to make dumbass transactions as long as the worlds spinning…

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    So wait, you guys actually read Orange’s long ass comment? Did it talk about the Knicks adding players they don’t have money to actually get? It seems Knicks fans take unrealistic expectations as vitamins.

  • http://nyill.wordpress.com Enigmatic

    Funny, I expected the Heat to stomp the deer sh*t out of the Bucks.
    But they lost to them. Twice.
    I guess the Heat aren’t as good as their record indicates either, then…

  • bull22

    @orange, i dont read into that victory yesterday other then it was a hard fought game between two long-time rivals. i have been watching too long to really go crazy over a regular season win, but last night it looked like a playoff atmosphere. would not want knicks in first round, they would be a hard out.

  • http://slamonline.com. datkid

    low blow enig… low blow.

  • http://espn.go.com/nba/recap/_/id/310203019/miami-heat-vs-orlando-magic Jukai

    Enig: they really aren’t. You know how Barkley was complaining that the Hawks have no killer instinct? That’s the Heat, times 10 in talent, but it’s still the Heat.
    Unless things change, they are both my favorite to win the championship and my favorite to be ousted by a team they should beat.

  • http://www.reverbnation.com/tray24 T-Ray

    Three words Matic
    Young…Mula…Baaaaaaby!

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-talk/2011 Diesel

    You can’t judge the Bulls on a game they played without two of their starters. One of which is their second best player. They got the win and that’s all I’m looking for out of them until they get healthy. Congrats Bull22!
    Barkley and the gang had me cracking up, making fun of Lebron and his disappearing hairline/ headband that has gone completely vertical.

  • http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/2011/01/post-up-23/ Allenp

    Why would the Bulls have a hard time beating the Knicks in the playoffs?
    They just beat them with some cat named Jimmy Butler getting major minutes for the first time all season. And the reason they won is because the Knicks offense completely breaks down whenever Carmelo Anthony plays a large role. It’s damn near uncanny.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    The Knicks would be a hard out in the first round for the Bulls? wth are you smoking?

  • Myung

    “You can’t judge the Bulls on a game they played without two of their starters.” I’m sorry, but if every fan of teams with injured players used that line of thinking this season, we wouldn’t be able to judge half the teams in the League. The Heat without Wade. The C’s without Rondo. The Hawks without Horford. The Bucks without Bogut. The Spurs without Manu. The Grizz without ZBo. The Warriors without Curry. It sucks that the Bulls were without Deng last night, but injuries (especially this season) are part of the game. I thought it was a gritty win for the Bulls last night, and I still think the Bulls are the 2nd best team in the NBA (and they’ll always be my 2nd favorite team behind the Hawks so I do root for them)… but there’s no need to make excuses. If not, we can’t judge the Hawks on any game for the rest of the regular season, since our 2nd best player is out for pretty much the whole year. I’m not going to say we lost last night because we didn’t have Al Horford (and won’t use that excuse for any other loss). We lost because we got outplayed and outhustled and just flat out beat by a team (who also is without arguably their best player in ZBo) who deserved to win last night.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    The Knicks without Baron. (hahaha sorry I had too)

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    Barkely making fun of Bron’s hairline had to be the funniest sh*t I’ve seen on TV in a while.
    I love how Melo stole Amare’s spotlight when he saw that STAT was finally having a monster night, so he decided to match him shot for shot. Amare, coaching staff and front office must be regretting that trade.
    DRose’s playmaking and court vision has improved by leaps and bounds.
    POR is overrated, the Nuggs are the real deal, the Clipps have nothing to worry about come playoff time with CP at the helm.
    The Kings and Warriors would be in the playoffs or at least be in contention every year if they played with the same kind of intensity versus average/lesser known teams like they do anytime a good team is in town.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    I think the Knicks make every PG they play look like a maestro.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Not true nbk, Lakers will prove it! Believe that!

  • bull22

    @enigmatic, its amazing how you call yourself a marine and yet feel some need to make clownish statements, some fans give other fans props. some of you cats like to try and tag-team to run others out of here when they make a statement you morons dont like. there are times where you make some good comments and others times where you sound like a little boy who is inside the bulls locker room acting as if coach tibbs is listening to your every rant and taking notes. go to humboldt park with a cup of java and suck in some fresh air and chill dude.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    That may be it but I’ve seen him make some passess he never would have made or even attempted last season vs other teams.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    idk what that meant

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Oh, JT, I see what your saying, he’s improving at an alarming rate. Or comes back after each off-season a much better player then when it began, which you can’t really say about anyone, year after year after year.

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-talk/2011 Diesel

    Myung, I’m not making excuses. The Bulls are one of the two best teams in the league when fully healthy. So when they’re fully healthy I expect great things out of them. When they’re not fully healthy I just expect them to win, which they did, so no need for excuses. My comment was in direct response to datkid saying he would have expected the Bulls to blow out the Knicks, and since they didn’t they must be all hype like those old Cavs teams. When they playoffs come around and the Bulls are fully healthy, you’ll see that blow out.
    But to answer your question, I don’t judge the Heat based on how they play without Wade either because I’m assuming everyone will be healthy for the playoffs and they’ll be a different team then. As for everyone else you named, none of those teams are realistically competing for a championship with or without those injured players so I don’t really care how they look.

  • http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/2011/01/post-up-23/ Allenp

    Memphis can’t compete?
    Nah, they could have competed this year if ZBo didn’t go down. They have all the pieces, and a very underrated coach.

  • http://nyill.wordpress.com Enigmatic

    Bull22, please tell me what in the f*ck does me having served in the Marines have anything at all to do with my comments on this site???

  • Myung

    Fair enough. Didn’t mean to jump in on your conversation with datkid. I guess I took your comment out of context. My fault. Out of the teams I mentioned, I do think the Grizzlies are still a legit title contender with ZBo back. I feel like whoever plays the Eastern Champ will most likely lose, but in the Finals, anything’s possible and with a healthy ZBo, Memphis has as good a shot as any team out West to face either Chicago or Miami (yes, I’m already penciling those two teams in to the ECF because they’re head and shoulders above the rest of the East). But yeah, my fault for taking your quote out of context, bro.

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-talk/2011 Diesel

    Not a problem Myung. I didn’t mention datkid in my response so I can see how my statement could be misinterpreted. As for the Grizz, I still think they’re a year or two away. I could be wrong though. When you have lock down defense and a couple of solid go to scorers, anything is possible.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Nick Tha Quick

    E-shots fired?

  • http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/2011/01/post-up-23/ Allenp

    I think in a few years Zbo might be too old. He is already 30 I think.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70K9xSwE50g LakeShow

    nbk, if that was at me, I meant that the Lakers will prove you wrong. Not every teams PG’s will look like Maestro’s against the Knicks lol..

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    OH hahahahahah you are probably right.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    The Grizzlies are a year or two away from what exactly?

  • Myung

    I think the Grizzlies can at least make the Finals THIS SEASON if (and that’s a serious “if”) ZBo can come back healthy. Rudy Gay, OJ Mayo, Conley, Gasol, ZBo, Speights, and Tony Allen. That’s a nice core. Sucks that they lost Arthur for the year, but they at least have a shot at it. Dallas is looking towards next year (Dwight/Deron). I think the train has left the station for the old Lakers (unless they get Dwight before the trade deadline) and Spurs. So that leaves the Nuggets (are they really legit?), Thunder, Clips, and Grizz. Will any of those teams beat Chicago or Miami? Doubt it. But still, the Grizz have as good a shot as any Western team to at least MAKE the Finals this season, if ZBo comes back at full strength. Last year was no fluke.

  • http://nyill.wordpress.com Enigmatic

    And I don’t ever conspire with anyone to take down anyone else or somehow consider myself elite or superior on here, that’s just silly.
    And not everyone is gonna agree with my comments on here, that’s cool.
    And I do make some homer a** comments from time to time.
    I stay chillin, tho. Just don’t understand why some people have to bring up my military service like that should somehow correlate with my opinions on a basketball site.

  • http://nyill.wordpress.com Enigmatic

    Not sure if I used “correlate” correctly.
    Should’ve checked with the homie AllenP first. Lol.
    And Bull22, you make some good comments on here too, but too often you fall back to your origin of being a troll that makes other Bulls fans look bad.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/officerbarbrady what

    Hawks need quality depth at center in the worst way.

  • Myung

    Are we in the Kaman sweepstakes, What?

  • http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/2011/01/post-up-23/ Allenp

    I think correlate will suffice.
    People knew what you meant. In the future consider “correspond” or “match” though.
    De Nada

  • http://slamonline.com. datkid

    All I’m saying Myung and Diesel is that beating NY should’ve been much easier than it looked like it was even w/ out deng. but i’m chillin. and for the record being compared to those old cavs teams doesn’t mean the bulls are all hype. it doesn’t even mean the bulls are bad, after all the cavs were perennial championship contenders at one point. It just means that I think there are similarities and that they overachieve in the regular season. none of those are a bad thing.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Slick Ric

    Impressive win by the nuggets, they’re winning the west this season.

  • http://slamonline.com. datkid

    bulls22 you know your an idiot troll right? just checking.

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-talk/2011 Diesel

    @nbk – I’m talking about a year or two from seriously contending for a championship. With the exception of ZBo, the team is relatively young. They’ve experienced the playoffs, but they haven’t experienced the Conference finals, let alone the atmosphere and pressure that the finals bring. On top of that, my own personal opinion is that players like Rudy Gay, Igudola and Granger……..you’ll have a good team with them as your best player, but you can’t win it all with them as your best player. And I do think Gay would have to be your best player because I don’t know how effective ZBo would be against bigger front lines like the Lakers in the playoffs.
    @Allen – ZBo would be older, but I’m assuming the internal growth from the rest of the team would more than offset any step he loses. Plus big men can usually be more effective in the league for a longer period of time.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Diesel, uhm, how do you see them improving though? They have no money. And still need to resign, OJ, TAllen, Darrel Arthur, Haddadi, Speights, & Young.

  • http://slamonline.com. datkid

    hmmm i actually think memphis could maybe get to the finals. They’ve got nice athletic perimeter players and a couple good defenders to throw at kobe… plus 2 excellent big men. AND they’re better coached.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Today’s arguing wasn’t NEARLY as entertaining as yesterday’s. Just saying.

  • davidR

    the hawks need a veteran that can keep the entire team in check. they mail it in way too many times

  • http://nyill.wordpress.com Enigmatic

    Well, E, entertainment is an esoteric measurement…

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Well there was a lack of manipulation in today’s chain of events.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Enig with the game-winner.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    Shouldn’t we at least wait until ZBO comes back and see how well they incorporate him into lineup/gameplan now that RGay has become their primary shot-taker?

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    i think so. but that’s just me.

  • http://bulls.com airs

    lksdjabf;ksdn’glknadfg
    what is this madness, i see how it is slam.
    i don’t visit for a while, and so my comments are no good? fine!

  • http://bulls.com airs

    …..of course, that one gets thru.

  • davidR

    i dunno if my comment will show, but eboy, there’s a filipino show on TFC (the filipino channel) called e-boy. i think it’s about a boy that befriends some kind of robot. thought it was interesting considering all the heat you’ve been drawing with filipinos. pun intended.

  • Diesel

    I’m not gonna lie. I had no idea what Memphis’s salary was at. I was assuming they could keep the team together as currently constructed

  • davidR

    here’s some info:
    http://tfcnow.abs-cbn.com/shows.aspx?showid=1602
    if slam comments were forums and allowed avatars, yours would have to be of that pic

  • bull22

    @enigmatic, the marine comment was meant as if these cats see you as their leader, they should have some manners. on the lighter side i dont consider you a whack job because you do keep your comments short and brief, and to the point.

  • http://www.twitter.com/nflem41 Nicolas Fleming

    I like turtles.

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    all good diesel, I just feel this year and next year are really their best chance(a) at making any noise in the playoffs

  • http://www.slamonline.com Nick Tha Quick

    TPU has taken an interesting turn lately. Like JR Smith, you never know what you gonna get everyday. In other news, found out a few weeks ago, I’ll be a dad (for the first time, that I know of). Any wise words of advice, respectable dads on SLAM?

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    Congratulations nick!! That’s some great news man

  • http://media.photobucket.com/image/i%20do%20believe%20i%20shat%20my%20pantaloons/tesulliv/ah-good-sir-i-do-believe-i-have-shat-in-my-pantaloons.jpg LakeShow

    I have no kids Nick. BUT, I recently have had the great pleasure of getting two new nephews. both under one year old. It has changed me and i’m just the uncle. So expect allot of changes. Lots of people don’t like babies or the thought of having kids. I disagree. If raised appropriately having a child can be the most rewarding thing that will ever happen in your life.

  • http://bulls.com airs

    At first, I thought nbk was talking to fleming, haha.
    But congrats nick! That you “know of” haha.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    flee?

  • http://nyill.wordpress.com Enigmatic

    Congratulations.
    Alls I can tell you is everything you thought you know about kids, babies, patience and masochism is about to get flipped on its a**.
    Enjoy.

  • http://nyill.wordpress.com Enigmatic

    LMAO!
    Machoism auto-corrected to masochism on my phone.
    I’m dying over here…
    I shoulda just said “what being a man is all about”.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    Kinky!!!

  • http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/2011/01/post-up-23/ Allenp

    Get up in the middle of the night and help your wife as often as you can stand it. The payoff will be immense.

  • Myung

    Congratulations. I became a father in 2009, and we welcomed our 2nd this past April (named him JORDAN, of course). My advice: get some sleep right now while you can. Take your lady on a trip or two. Take her to nice places to eat. Go watch movies. Because pretty soon… it’s game over.

  • Myung

    Parenthood is such a blessing. Your life will forever be changed. It’s tiring, but it’s the most rewarding experience ever. Again, congratulations, Nick.

  • http://nyill.wordpress.com Enigmatic

    I think there’s 3 or 4 of us on here who named their sons Jordan all for the same reason.
    We’re all die-hard Jordan Crawford fans.

  • http://bulls.com airs

    Hahah! @matic

  • davidR

    lol enig

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    In terms of advice for when your lady is pregnant, stay optimistic, about even the smallest of things, as much as humanely possible, even if your first instinct Says the opposite. That’s what I’ve learned the last 8 months.

  • Myung

    Montell Jordan for me, enig. This is how you do it.

  • http://slamonline.com. datkid

    wow nick congrats! wish I could give you some advice but I’m wayyy too young to have kids lmao

  • http://slamonline.com. datkid

    wow nick congrats! wish I could give you some advice but I’m wayyy too young to have kids lmao

  • http://nyill.wordpress.com Enigmatic

    That’s the spirit, Legro.
    Can’t have datkids raising kids…

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/officerbarbrady what

    Myung I don’t think so because he would take them over the all important luxury tax in all likelihood.

  • davidR

    nick, i dont have kids, but i’m a godparent for one. my advice is, spend as much time as you can with them, and always talk to them about anything and everything. explain why you do things too. eventually they’ll understand it and learn.
    also, be there for your girl. she has a lot of work coming

  • http://www.slamonline.com Nick Tha Quick

    Appreciate it, fellows. Sorry for hijacking TPU like this. I don’t get any naming rights (or so she says) but of course I’ve been thinking a lot about it names. And, no, Kendrick was deleted from the list as of this past week.

  • http://www.twitter.com/hurstysyd Hursty

    Congrats Nick! Awesome news!
    Re. the Quiz.. I guess so. Up to you guys to get the answers though, I’m not gonna double check everything haha,

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