Tuesday, February 28th, 2012 at 9:00 am  |  221 responses

Shaquille O’Neal: Steve Nash Didn’t Deserve Two MVPs


by Marcel Mutoni @marcel_mutoni

In his first year as a talking head, Shaquille O’Neal has struggled to translate his outsized personality onto the television screen. What the retired big man hasn’t had any trouble with, however, is the ability to give amazing interviews.

Shaq spoke candidly with Vibe Magazine about a number of subjects, and here are some choice quotes about former teammate Steve Nash and the rivalry with the Sacramento Kings:

VIBE: Some sportswriters think you underachieved because you only won one MVP. Shaq: “Steve Nash is my boy, but I don’t see how the fuck he got it twice. I was taught never to complain because you can’t beat the system. People know who the real dominant guy was. But Steve Nash, I don’t want to say it because you might print it and it might cause problems. I don’t believe he beat me out twice.”

Was there genuine animosity between the Lakers and the 2002 Kings?

“It wasn’t, but I created it. I know how to get you to watch me. Okay, Sacramento is coming up and it’s already a big game, ‘Fuck them, the Sacramento Queens.’ And now everyone is talking about that. [...] The trash talk against Sacramento worked. Peja Stojakovic and Doug Christie missed open three’s down the stretch. “They were shook. Pressure busts pipes. Most of those guys were playing because of C-Webb’s balls. C-Webb had balls and White Chocolate [Jason Williams] had balls. [Writer’s Note: Williams was traded from Sacramento before the 2001–02 season, and didn’t play in that series.] Divac ain’t got no balls. Doug Christie damn sure ain’t got no balls. I would look at them during the national anthem. I could see in their eyes if they were scared. I would see Doug Christie looking and doing the thing [flashing hand signals] to his wife. I would make eye contact with Divac, and he looked down. And I was like, ‘Okay, I got him.’ C-Webb would try to look hard, but it didn’t work because his other puppies didn’t play well.”

Shaquille O’Neal also criticizes his work on NBATV and TNT (giving himself only a C-minus), his relationship with Kobe Bryant, Los Angeles Lakers management, Pat Riley and his NBA legacy. It’s a very entertaining read.

Shaq should be allowed to swear on television. I’m convinced this would make him infinitely better as an analyst.

(H/T: Deadspin)

  • Add a Comment
  • Share
  • RSS

Tags: , , , , , , , , , , , ,

  • OTB

    White MVPs had nothing to do with the Malice. Are you saying Dirk didn’t deserve it? Dallas won 67 games that year.

  • http://www.twitter.com/_dfrance dfrance21

    I would love to make a list, but my knowledge of players like Clyde, Cousy, Tiny Archibold, Oscar comes soley off of NBA Classic videos so I don’t think I’m qualified. But from what I’ve actually seen live, my top 5 would be
    Magic
    Kidd
    Stockton
    Isiah

    Well top 4. lol

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    JTaylor
    My list was in order, so I accounted for that fact when listing Nash and Cousy.
    And I like NBK’s list with Frazier that high. Dude is regularly slept on in the all-time debate. Like criminally slept on.

  • manu

    1 Magic
    2 isiah
    3 oscar
    4 payton
    5 kidd
    6 nash
    7 stockton

  • Roybot

    Look, Nas won those two MVPs fairly and no one can ever take that away from him no matter what they argue. But MVP trophies shouldn’t factor much into greatest PGs ever, play and success does. That being said, Nash is definitely top 15 and arguably top 10. I must stress in sports there is NO objective list, only subjective ones. There is just too much differing opinions. But Check out his stats for the last 6 years. How often do you see a point guard shoot 50/40/90 three straight seasons and come close other seasons? All while averaging 10+ dimes and leading one of the most efficient offenses of all-time? Dantoni doesn’t play the games, Nash does. Look at Amares averages this year. Granted, he’s gone through some tough stretches, but I believe he wouldnt be playing this bad if he was in Phoenix with Nash.

  • OTB

    Nash is in no way better than Stock. I’d put Kidd and Stock above Payton, but Payton above Nash.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    CRIMINALLY SLEPT ON. That is damn right. smh. it bother’s me when people talk about all time greats and don’t even mention Frazier. To the point where i’m angry typing this. (Kevin Garnett “Scowl”)

  • http://slamonline.com The Philosopher

    One more thing regarding Price.
    The best pull up jump shooter in NBA History.
    Kyrie Irving reminds me of Clyde Frazier.
    He reminds me of Sam Cassell, too.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Especially consider Frazier did what he did without a 3pt line. If he actually had spacing on the court his numbers would have been absolutely bananas.

  • robb

    Nash over Stockton? are you out of your mind???

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    On board with y’all regarding Frazier. If I had to win one playoff series, I would go with Frazier over any other PG in history not named Magic, Zeke and Oscar.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Walt Frazier’s career playoff averages are pretty awesome, 21PPG, 7RPG 6APG on 51% shooting, in that day and age.

  • Tyeng12

    O dear O dear Shaq!!! Nash won the MVP in 05 because he turned a 20 win team into a 60 win team single handedly. And he did this while shooting 90/50/40 and being 1st team all NBA which only Bird has ever done. He Won in 06 because even after Amare got hurt he still got phoenix to the 2 seed and recorded career highs in all statistical categories. Anyone who says Kobe should have won forgets that the Lakers were a .500 team. No MVP should ever b on a 7 seed. OBVIOUSLY!!!!
    Oh and Nash did this whilst playing the best, most exciting, fan friendley Ball since Magic. For the record he should be a THREE time MVP. He was robbed in 07′. So that clears the MVP’s up.
    For those saying Nash is the 8th (or lower) greatest PG ever need to realise Nash’s legacy. He’s already statistically the Greatest shooter in the History of the NBA (If he shot as much as Kobe he’d score 50 a night minimum). He’s in the top 2 or 3 play makers ever. He’s a Two time MVP (Fact) and he’s inspired an entire generation of pass first point guards.Not to mention that at 38 he’s still producing more than any other 38 year old ever has.
    The only Black Mark is the lack of a ring, which is fair enough I suppose. If he was Ever to get that Ring he’d b an Easy 4th greatest PG behind 1 Magic 2 Oscar and 3 Isiah. Anyone who says Stockton was better never watched him play.
    You Just got Schooled!!!!

  • http://www.slamonline.com jdubbs29

    What’s Dwight Howard gonna say when Jeremy Lin wins back to back MVP’s?

  • xx_JOMMOMA_xx

    Nash is the best pure shooting point guard of all time….

    somebody anybody step up and tell me one other point guard who is a better shooter… and dont bother saying isiah because of one finals game on a sprained ankle.. props isiah but u cant shoot like the kid.

    hes white … so you all hate..
    admit it.

    look at the stats

    REAL QUESTION IS HOW DIDNT HE 3 PEAT MVP?

    WHY didnt nash get the 3rd MVP when he dominated the league even more after the first 2?

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    The guy had arguably the greatest Gm7 peformance in NBA history.

  • rainman10

    Larry Bird won 3 MVPs. I think he is white.

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    Game 7 1988 finals, James Worthy – is my pick JT

  • Heals

    Bullshht! Others may’ve been MORE deserving (Kob), but in no way was Stevie undeserving…

  • http://slamonline.com The Philosopher

    Always got a kick out of Frazier on breakaways.
    He would push the ball all the way up court. As his defender gives chase, Clyde gets close to the basket, would act like he would go up for a hard layup. Then he stops, waits for the defender to fly out of bounds. Then, Frazier would simply toss the ball in without barely even jumping.
    Funny as hell.
    He did that frequently.

  • http://slamonline.com datkid

    I have honestly never been able to decide if he deserved both. I need a way to watch more of steve nash’s classic games tho

  • bike

    And Frazier, without question, was the number one point guard of all-time in terms of style, dress, swagger and vocabulary. Walt was the coolest nba player, ever, period.
    Put that in your pipe, Shaq, and smoke it.

  • Jimmy

    xx

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    Today’s discussion is why i love SLAM

  • Shecky Shabazz

    @t money you’re joking right? Cp3 was cooking during those years? Cp3 was really putting in work at Wake Forest in 2005 when Nash won his first MVP. And his 16 and 8 his rookie year (I believe that’s what he averaged; going from what I can remember) was real monster considering Nash was still putting up a double double with practically a new starting line up on top of Amare being out for the year. Nash didn’t deserve the second one. That should’ve been Kobe’s.

  • http://slamonline.com The Philosopher

    And if this thread closes for a while, nbk’s comment @2:59 p.m. is fitting.

  • Tyeng12

    Steve Nash : 4th or 5th Greatest PG EVER
    Shaq : 5th or 6th Greatest Centre Ever

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    nbk, that was a great performance but I think Frazier’s 36pts/19asts/5stl line (with a hobbled willis reed) is a little bit more impressive than Worthy’s 36/16/10. You can’t go wrong choosing either one.

  • http://slamonline.com The Philosopher

    Quick question, my brethren;
    Where does Chauncey Billups rank in all time point guards?

  • Heals

    bk, funny yu bring up Frazier being slept on (more like hibernated on), cause one of his fav pg’s in the L is TParker another guy who doesn’t get the pub his game has earned…

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Taylor, oh definitely, both were ridiculously great performances. I think I value Worthy’s performance more because of how many times I’ve actually watched it honestly.

  • Heals

    C-, Shaq getting graded on the curve, cause I’d give em’ D at best. Less is more with Shaq and the past few days has been an overdose for many of us…

  • VanCityVibe

    I agree with shaq on this one

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Heals, I think Parker will get his recognition in the end. This year is opening a lot of peoples eyes

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    Philo, around 13-14.

  • http://slamonline.com The Philosopher

    HA!
    Good sh1t…

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Hmmm, it’s hard to place Billups
    .
    .
    That might take me a while.

  • Zabbah

    Tony Parker is killing it. Spurs for the title. At least Finals. Ok, WCF.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Is Billups even better than Tony Parker all-time?

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    NO.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    What position do y’all think of Alvin Robertson? Sidney Moncrief? Gail Goodrich?
    .
    Regardless though, Billups falls somewhere between 13 and 18. I have to do some research to make my final decision though.

  • http://slamonline.com The Philosopher.

    Robertson, in my estimation, would be a top 50.
    Billups, as well. Top 50.
    Moncrief is on the all time underrated list.
    Goodrich, too.
    Robertson is the best ball thief, maybe, in NBA History.
    Single season record, and all of that.

  • http://slamonline.com The Philosopher

    Robertson, in my estimation, is top 50.
    Billups, as well. Top 50.
    Moncrief is on the all time underrated list.
    Goodrich, too.
    Robertson is the best ball thief, maybe, in NBA History.
    Single season record, and all of that.

  • http://slamonline.com The Philosopher

    Oshay Blaylock was a great ball thief, too.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    TP- career 17/6/3 on 49% shooting during RS
    19/5/3 on 46% shooting during the Playoffs
    CBillups- 15/5/3 on 41% shooting during RS
    18/6/3 on 41% shootind during the Playoffs
    Both players have a Final MVP trophy but TP has 3 championships to CBillups’ 1 and he’s 6yrs younger.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Yeah I have TP higher on my list, despite the age gap. Parker is going to be a sniff outside the top 10 if he stays healthy and keeps winning.

  • http://www.dimemag.com showtime

    Why dont The pistol pete , dont get enough rec, in probably the best alltime college player in history. Handles was decades beyond, but never get top 10 0r 15 mentions>>>

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    He was a shooting guard in the NBA.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    He was a 6’5″ SG. He was a real good passer and played play maker quite often, but he was definitely score first. One of the greatest talents of all time with out a doubt, but he isn’t going to be in any point guard debates.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    dammit nbk

Advertisement