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Wednesday, March 21st, 2012 at 9:00 am  |  109 responses

Andrew Bynum’s Ejection ‘Irritated’ Head Coach Mike Brown


by Marcel Mutoni @marcel_mutoni

There were many reasons for the Los Angeles Lakers’ terrible loss in Houston last night, during which they relinquished a 17-point lead to the under-handed Rockets.

Kobe Bryant shot often and often missed, the defense was atrocious, and Andrew Bynum drew a couple of silly techs and was kicked out of the ballgame in the third quarter.

A disbelieving Bynum smiled widely when he was ejected, making sure to hi-five everyone on the Lakers’ bench, and several fans sitting courtside. Mike Brown was not amused.

From the LA Daily News:

“Our defense is the worst it’s been all year,” Brown said. “The last seven or eight games, we just haven’t been playing well defensively. [...] Kobe Bryant brushed off Bynum’s ejection by saying he likes the way the 7-footer plays with “a chip on his shoulder,” and to take away that part of his game would take away something that makes him a force in the paint. “You can’t expect him to have it one night and not the next,” said Bryant, who didn’t speak to Bynum after the game. “I like the chip that he plays with.”

“I was irritated,” Brown said of Bynum’s ejection, which left the Lakers vulnerable in the paint. “Drew has to figure out what he wants to do. If (complaining to the referees profanely) is justified or not, nobody can put themselves in jeopardy.”

It doesn’t get any easier for the Lakers, who are an unsightly 9-15 on the road this season, as they travel to Dallas for a matchup against the Mavericks tonight. For Mike Brown’s sake, here’s to hoping Andrew Bynum can hang around for the whole thing.

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  • Paul H

    Going away from Sessions cost them the game….

  • CHRIS SOT

    THANK YOU!!! JUST LET HIM START ALREADY!!!

  • lisa

    Paul… I sad the same thing. But, can Sessions run their offense late in games. He played great and he should start from here on out. I also noticed Kobe stayed on the bench too long as well. The Lakers have to decide if Kobe or Sessions will run their offense in the last few minutes of the game.

  • colors

    Mike Brown is such a joke. I kind of supported him in Cleveland, didn’t think he deserved to be fired, but seriously? Steve Blake over Ramon Sessions? Why trade one of your best core guys for him if you’re barely going to use him.

  • Omar

    Bynum doesn’t care. He got his money yesterday.

  • tomtom

    Mike Brown isn’t getting any heat for this loss? Really? He burned up time outs for one thing, waited too long to put Kobe in when it came to the 4th. The lead was down to 7 when Kobe came in, yes Ramon was playing great but the rockets had made a run and Kobe didn’t get in ’till 4.45! How can you expect a guy to be warm within 4 or 5 possessions? Worst of all was the play call with 20 or so seconds left. Yes Kobe got open and made a 3, however it was a hand of play with Pau, which took way to much time off the clock. If we had time outs then that is a great play BUT Brown needs to realise that even if Hou can miss a FT (which they did) then we wouldn’t have ANY TIME to get a damn shot. AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO SEES THIS!?

  • http://juan.garcia@computershare.com NBA Head

    Brown put the remaining starters in too late in the 4th qtr and they never got enough time to get their rythm back. I know the bench was playing great but in the 4th you have to put your statrers back in with at least 6 minutes to go. Just saying…

  • Jay cutler

    But brown isn’t irritated when Kobe jacks 3 for 20, 6 for 28, or 10 for 27?

    K.

  • RunNGun

    The LAkers need to play like this every evening.

  • Top$helf

    Mike Brown gets way 2 much blame the majority of it should go 2 Kobe jackin up shots like he’s 18 again he got two 7 footers feeding the post consistently will make his job a whole lot easier

  • l2ising Phoenix

    The chip on the shoulder statement is overused……

  • Ash

    Very immature on Bynaum part. He is important to the team and possibly cost Lakers the lost.Mike Brown needs find away to get a hold of this team it sounds like no one respects him. You put Sessions on the bench to get some scoring. He is the only one on bench who can Blake can’t do that

  • lisa

    Bynum need to quit complaining, Kobe needs to take fewer shots, and Sessions needs to start. The Lakers are now contenders.

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    “Going away from Sessions cost them the game….” You got to be kidding me. lol

  • ron

    Mike should stop complaining. Look, Mike is a professional coach, he should adjust his attitude and game plans to suit his players.

  • http://redoftoothandclaw.ca/ niQ

    cosign jay cutler. lol

  • thecomputerdude

    Mike Brown the clock is now ticking…..

  • http://dodgers.com Joey E.

    im cool with sessions off the bench. adds more to a weak bench. but he MUST finish games. and he did last night, so cool. I expect his minutes to go up with every game. as for Andrew, meh. he won’t be getting ejected in the playoffs(im talking T’s, not a flagrant)

  • http://Roosterteeth.com Caboose

    Is anybody shocked that Mike Brown is ruining the Lakers?

  • Paul H

    @Orange, Sessions had 6 points and 2 assists up until Kobe checked In with about 6 mins to go. The offense was flowing, guys were involved and the tempo was controlled and the Lakers were still up by 12. Kobe checks In with 5 remaining and Sessions does not take ANOTHER shot. Three Kobe bricks and a turnover later and all of a sudden It’s 99-97 Rockets. KOBE ball Vs Sessions leading TEAM ball. You joke.

  • AD

    the lakers are finished.. nobody is scared of L.A

  • tomtom

    Paul H What game were you watching?? Houston hit a three to trim the league to 7 with about 5mins left. Lakers come down and Pau gets a Layup to make it nine, then lakers foul on next defence and Kobe comes in with the lakers up 7. The Rockets were on a 9 – 2 run when Kobe entered the game. He took 2 bad shots, granted. But he didn’t do much else wrong, LA’s D was so weak and losing Bynum was tough. People seem to be saying in all seriouslness that Ramon > Kobe?? haha i think that says a lot. Sad lives, people do the same to Lebron and it’s pathetic, spending your whole lives waiting for others to fail so you can rush to your keyboard.

  • Rainman

    Kobe stayed on the bench too long. He came bak onto the floor cold, and missed his next like 3 shots, that was a coaching mistake.

    oh and yes, Sessions shuda kept running the show, for sure.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Co-Sign tomtom. People are acting like they watched this game, but I doubt ya’ll have LP. Kobe had a decent game, he shot poorly, but you wouldn’t have noticed if you just watched the game instead of looking at a box score and highlights. Bynum lost the game for LA. Sessions looked good, but he still doesn’t know the team and you can tell that. Brown could have coached better, but it was Sessions who called for a time out when he got trapped thus by making it so there was not time outs. Not exactly Browns fault. Dam, got a bunch of Skip Bayless wanna be’s up in here.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    This year, Lakers are 10-8 when Kobe takes 25+ shots, 22-17 when he takes 20+ shots, and 6-1 when he takes less than 20 shots.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    idk what season that is from, but some dude tweeted that last night

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    It’s funny how often Kobe fans have to excuse a horrendous shooting game. They are like LeBron fans and choking.

  • Paul H

    It was 95-83 with 6.10 left and a nine point game when Kobe checked In. Yes Houston went on a run, but If the Lakers had of kept the ball moving they could have controled the pace better and maybe got a few more easy buckets. And yes I have League pass, It’s the only way I get to watch games. I love Kobe Byrant but I still like to see him held responsible. He’s the man who has always been sold as the solid clutch finisher (and sold himself) If he Is consistently chucking up BRICKS when It matters most now why shouldn’t be held responsible? And I’m not attacking Kobe’s legacy, I’m criticizing him NOW.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    that’s from this season.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    -Allen, You watched the game? Thought so. Hushhhh…
    -nbk, stats like that are fun, but The Bulls are just as good without Rose according to stats like that. I agree he needs to take less shots. His average should be around 22 FGPG with him making 10 of them, but that’s an unfair stat overall. It is usually because they are down by allot and the team is playing like garbage and Kobe starts trying to get them back in the game. Sometimes with ill advised chucks. Sometimes with daggers that win the game.

  • JZAKONI

    @Lakeshow B*tch i dont need LP. i live in cali, i got KCal & Prime ‘ticket… Bitch A$$ Ni66a

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    How are the Bulls just as good without Rose? He’s missed 14 of 48 games, the team is 28-6 with him, 10-4 without him. They are worse. Nice try though.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    His shooting % for “daggers” is around 34%. They win more when he shoots less for a reason. (Hint: Because that means other guys who are more efficient, are shooting more)

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    Kobe should be around 18-19 shots with those two 7footers around him.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    how can you defend someone shooting 27 shots to score 29 points? Every entire team in the league is more efficient then that. You could run the Bobcats offense to a more efficient game then that. Especially considering Kobe made half of his extremely difficult shots towards the end of the game last night. Which means he was missing and taking too many stupid shots during the first 44 minutes.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    So what you’re saying is that Kobe fans don’t find themselves defending his horrendous shooting as often as LeBron fans find themselves defending his clutchness?
    And you believe that only those people who purchase League Pass would know if this is true?
    That’s so asinine I had to smile.
    He chucks. His fans excuse it. LeBron chokes, his fans excuse it.
    It’s the circle of life.

  • Tomas

    HIGH FIVE

  • Paul H

    Remember Nbk, the Lakers have a pecking order…and those seven-footers better get In line….At least having Sessions In the lineup should, theoretically, make Kobe play a bit more efficiently.

  • TMAX

    I was at the game in Houston. My season tickets are within 10′ of the visiting teams bench. Something is clearly up with Andrew Bynum and Mike Brown. Bynum did not participate in half time nor any timeouts. He cursed the coach right in front of everyone for taking him out early in the game. I believe he intentionally got thrown out of last nights game. I have no idea what is going on there, but this tells me Mike Brown has lost this team. Several players walked over to Bynum and laughed and cut up. I am a dual Rockets/Lakers fan (it’s a long story). Seeing this team last night and watching all this unfold pretty much tells me the Lakers are done. They need to fire Mike Brown immediately after they are ousted from the playoffs. Kobe will carry them as far as he can, but this coaching staff is not capable of doing what they have done in the past in getting the other players to buy in.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    You are not an intelligent person if you speak on things which you did not witness yourself. Bynum did not play the second half…Kobe should have been passing to Drew in the locker room right? Gasol only grabbed 4 boards, and they got out rebounded by 10. Drew had 7 in the first half. STFU if you think you know what your talking about. Because you don’t.
    -Who should Kobe be passing too? Tell me? Go ahead i’ll wait. Steve Blake? Matt Barnes? Sessions doesn’t shoot the ball well outside of 15 feet. Artest is not exactly a great shooter. Pau? He got pushed off the block by Scola probably a half dozen times in the 2nd half.
    -You all have NO idea what your talking about, so your talking out your asses to try to make the day go by. That’s fine. What else your asses have to say?

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    The problem is, the Lakers could compete for a title this year if they (when I say they, I mean Kobe) got rid of the “pecking order” and just ran an offense through their strengths. Which happen not to be Kobe. (he’s still the best player on the team, don’t get all your Kobe loving panties in a bunch Lakers Fans)

  • Tomas

    Kobe been take 20+ shots for 16 years in NBA , go look at is accomplishments and find somthing else to complain about thankx

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    no he’s been taking 20+ shots for 11 years. – we are all well aware of his accomplishments, and also, more aware of his career then you. obviously.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Thomas with the truth. I’ll take 5 Championships in 15 tries every time.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Sigh.
    Here is your quote:”Kobe had a decent game, he shot poorly, but you wouldn’t have noticed if you just watched the game instead of looking at a box score and highlights.”
    So what you’re saying is that when you wrote that Kobe shot poorly I should have ignored what you wrote because it don’t watch League Pass?
    That is freaking hilarious.
    YOU SAID KOBE SHOT POORLY.
    I pointed out that it’s funny how often Kobe fans have to say that, whether it’s followed by “Damn him” or “But he had a good game anyway”.
    It’s just like LeBron fans saying “Well he disappeared in the fourth, but he carried the team for three quarters to get them there.”
    It’s the standard disclaimer.
    I don’t care about the Lakers, or who is to blame, or all that jazz you’re trying to argue about. I think it’s funny that Kobe fans have to consistently excuse horrendous shooting, or constantly fume about it. That makes me chuckle.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Kobe fans know it’s true. Lakers fans too.
    Dude regularly takes horrible shots and has taken them his entire career regardless of who he plays with and what they are doing.
    He took bad shots with Shaq, he takes them now. He’s taken them in Finals victories, he’s taken them in Finals defeats. He’s taken them while sweeping teams, he’s taken them while being swept.
    Why be defensive about an obvious deficiency? If you want to champion him in spite of those problems, that’s wonderful. But it’s obvious those problems exist.
    I can’t believe Kobe fans are still sensitive about this. It would like me, as an Iverson fan, being sensitive when somebody says he was often horrible on defense.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Lakeshow are you really pretending like last night’s game was an aberration and only happened because Kobe had no one to pass to?
    You know what, my bad. I should have remember some key facts. Of course you believe that. Kobe only chucks because he’s forced to chuck. If he had great teammates he would pass. That’s right, he would pass for sure.
    Definitely.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Chuckle away. Not seeing your point though. Do you have one? He should have shot better. He didn’t. Moving on. The only “excuse” I have is that who do you want shooting the ball more than Kobe? Steve Blake? Matt Barnes? Ron Artest? Andrew Bynum in the locker room? Or a uninterested Pau Gasol who is being pushed around by a guy who is 4 inched shorter than him. I want Kobe taking those shots. You don’t. That’s the only thing I see here.

  • Paul H

    Jesus lakeshow you really get touchy when Bean Is criticized. Nobody here has said anything derogatory about Kobe’s career. He HAS been chucking up fourth quarters on the regular this season tho. Undeniably inefficient hero ball most of the time. I like Kobe, and the Lakers, but Bean really needs to settle down and realize that, while he Is still a fantastic player, maybe he just doesn’t have the same edge for closing that he used to.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    Why do Kobe fans resort to past accomplishments whenever someone is talking about what he’s doing so far this season? What does 5 rings or 81pts or 62 in 3 have to do with anything that has occured so far this season? You can not have a argument with them without being pounded upside the head with the 5 RINGZZZZZZZZZZZZ hammer.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    He shouldn’t have shot a better percentage. He should have shot better shots. Which means he probably should have shot less.
    .
    I want the Lakers to play the best basketball possible.
    .
    You want Kobe Bryant to get all the glory he can.
    .
    That’s the only thing I see here.

  • Big23

    When Lebron is 33 let see whats his shooting % is haha

  • lisa

    But Kobe doesn’t need to take 20 shots. He only needs to take about 15. Gasol should get around 12 and Bynum should get about 15 as well. With Ramon running point, they should get easier shots. We have a point gaurd now so there shouldn’t be any excuses. Mike Brown needs to get the team under control. They are championship contenders now… when they play team ball. We know what Kobe can do, he doesn’t have to prove anything.

  • Kerby

    Hero ball all day lol

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    “Big23 Posted: Mar.21 at 3:20 pm
    When Lebron is 33 let see whats his shooting % is haha”
    -
    LeBron’s 2nd worst shooting season would be Kobe’s best shooting season.
    .
    They are completely different players, comparing their shooting % doesn’t really do anything.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Let me restate my point.
    I find it funny how often Kobe fans have to defend his horrendous shooting. It’s like Lebron fans defending his unclutchness.
    Basically, two of five best players in the NBA have undeniable deficiencies in their games that regularly surface and require their fans to defend them as they try to blunt perceived attacks on their legacies.
    Which is funny to me because it requires mental gymnastics that would make ancient Greeks proud.
    Moreover, it leads to people creating false realities where Kobe chucks because he’s forced into that role through no fault of his own, and is just doing his best to survive. It’s a shame. Lakeshow I’ve seen you and multiple other Lakers fans complain after Lakers losses where Kobe has chucked up horrible shots despite Bynum or Gasol having things going.
    I have watched countless games where he’s done the same for years. At this point, I would think that any intelligent and intellectually honest person would be able to admit that despite the myriad of amazing skills Kobe possesses, he has NEVER improved upon the one glaring weakness in his game… His penchant for taking incredibly difficult shots instead of trusting his teammates and playing smart, balanced basketball.
    It appears that either Kobe fans don’t see this flaw, or they fear that if they admit that this flaw exists it will somehow invalidate everything Kobe has accomplished. Which is a shame because it’s pretty much impossible to take the arguments of someone seriously if they repeatedly ignore reality to protect their viewpoint.
    Toodles.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    nbk, you should know as well as anyone that Kobe shoots the same dam shots every night. This wasn’t a random game where he took “bad shots.” He takes bad shots every game throughout a game. That’s what makes Kobe Kobe. He takes/makes the most ridiculous shots of anyone in League history.
    -You all realize that the bench was in for the majority of the 4th while they lost the lead and then Kobe was put in with less than 5 mins remaining. I believe it was actually 4:21 left in the 4th. He proceeded to miss 2 shots. Followed by 3 ridiculous made shots that put them back in the game. You all are acting like Kobe took them out of the game. That’s not true.
    -On monday Kobe lost the game for the Lakers. He didn’t take bad shots. He took solid shots that didn’t go in.
    -Yesterday, Bynum lost the game for the Lakers. In addition to Pau for not owning the paint like he should.
    -Paul H, What do you think the Lakers end game strategy should be? They passed it to Pau and he got pushed off the blosk by Scola and passed out and then looked at Kobe like “So what are you going to do now Kobe?” Pau needs to be more aggressive in the 4th qtr. If you watch the LAkers then you know that Kobe loves passing it to Pau and Drew when they get good position and actually act like they want the ball. They typically are way to passive and Kobe is not the type to just let some role players finish out the game for them.
    -lisa, if they are only taking 40 FG attempts as a trio, who do you want taking the other 40? I sure as hell don’t want Steve Blake, Artest, Barnes, McBob taking that many shots.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Allen, I agree. KABOOOOOOM

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Lakeshow, Kobe isn’t good enough anymore (atheltically) to take that many bad shots and still compete for a TITLE. I am well aware of how he plays, doesn’t mean it’s not an issue, and a bigger and bigger issue the older he gets. If Kobe shot good shots last night, earlier in the game, maybe the Lakers would have had a big enough lead that he wouldn’t have needed to do what he did in the last 4 minutes at all?
    .
    The rest of the offensive problems you speak of “hey passed it to Pau and he got pushed off the blosk by Scola and passed out and then looked at Kobe like “So what are you going to do now Kobe?” Pau needs to be more aggressive in the 4th qtr.” is something that either Mike Brown needs to fix, or Kobe needs to fix. One of them has to talk to / yell at the rest of the guys about their lack of aggression late in games. Kobe shouldn’t feel the responsibility to jack up fadeaway 20 footers with 2 people on him at ANY point in the game unless the shot clock is expiring.
    .
    I want Kobe to play a smarter brand of basketball so that I can watch the Lakers play at the highest level possible. I don’t like watching games that feature big huge gaping problems in an offense or a defense. If the Lakers roster looked like it did in 2006 you wouldn’t see me saying a damn thing about the shots Kobe is taking, because I would have taken the same shots on that roster (if I were Kobe, ofcourse). You just think us bringing up Kobe’s issues is hating, when really it’s an observation on a basketball website, where we express exactly what we observe.

  • http://LAKESHOW albert

    MIKE BROWN HAS LOST RESPECT FROM THE PLAYERS.ALSO KOBES KOBE YOU WIN WITH HIM AND YOU LOSE WITH HIM.BOTTOM LINE IS THIS.OUR DEFENSE WAS TERRIBLE AND HOUSTON CAUGHT FIRE.ALSO IF YOU NOTICE ONE THING ABOUT SESSION IS THIS HE HAS NO DEFENSE AGAINST BIGGER GUARDS.NEITHER DOES BLAKE.SO REGARDLESS WE NEEDED ILD RELIABLE D FISH.KOBE NEEDS TO LET HIS TEAM WIN GAMES FOR HIM IM SURE IF BYNUM WOULD HAVE STAYED IN THE GAME HE WOULD HAVE BEEN THE MAIN FOCUS IB THE CLUTCH.BUT HE COSTED US THE GAME ALSO.BROWN NEEDS TO MAN UP AND PUT HIS FOOT DOWN.KOBES A BALL HOGG WE ALL KNOW THAT WHO DIDNT NOTICE THAT 3 HE FORCED.THE GUYS SHOOTING TO MUCH.WAY TO MUCH HES PROBLY LOST US 8-10 GAMES THIS YEAR OFF HERO BALL.BUT HEA ALSO WON US THAT MANY.SO ROLL THE DICE.BY PLAY OFFS WE WILL EITHER BE IN THE FINALS OR FIRST ROUND EXIT.WE WIN WHEN WE HAVE TOO!!!!!

  • lisa

    Wow you are really getting offensive. Call down, there is no need for cursing. Let’s look at the big picture… Forget about Kobe’s % or the fact that Mike Brown put his starters in too late. When the Lakers moved the ball around they looked like a well organized team. If the Lakers can get contributions from their bench like they did last night, they could win a title. Their defense was invisible in the fourth and Kobe(who entered the game with 4:21 left in the 4th) stopped the flow of their offense. We know he takes and makes/misses crazy shots… blah, blah, blah. Why do that (and he didn’t take too many crazy shots last night) when the offense was clicking? Their offense wash stagnant. Just saying.

  • lisa

    * their offense was stagnant

  • http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/2011/12/dwight-howards-next-move/ JordanL

    @TomTom

    You are definetely NOT the only one who saw that!!!
    I was thinking the EXACT thing you posted… about how Brown waited until less than 5 minutes left to put Kobe back into the game and he probably got cold and stiff sitting on the bench (the older a player gets the easier it is for him to get stiff and cold…. why do you think Nash is always stretching when he is not in the game…..), Then Brown burns up all the timeouts for no reason. Kobe made some great shots to give L.A a chance to win or tie the game… Lakers coulda tied the game….but MIKE BROWN BURNED ALL THE TIMEOUTS!!! So Lakers had no time to get off a shot. And I dont want to hear that as soon as Kobe came back into the game that the Rockets came back…. Because wen he was waiting to come in, Rockets had already made a run to bring the Laker lead down to 7pts. Then if you watched the game you will see that all 3 WIDE OPEN jumpers were defensive mistakes on Metta World Peace’s part. If you watch the replays you will see in each and every 3 that Metta was coming for a late contest because he was sleeping on defense….

    WHY IS LAKERS DEFENSE SO ATROCIOUS ON THE ROAD????!!!!!!

    They are lockdown on defense at home only giving up 89pts… and then on the road they give up like 107pts??? That’s amazing! Especially with a team who has been together and has veterans.

  • lisa

    Their offense was stagnant when he got in the game. Yes, he did make shots to bring them back in it, but he is also one of the MANY reasons why that game slipped away.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    lisa, I didn’t read your post cause you asked me to stop cursing. I said “hell” I don’t even think that’s cursing. F*ck SOPA and people like it.
    - Fair observations nbk. No I don’t think it’s hating. I think it’s hating to act like things he does that are impressive are not impressive, but calling him out on his flaws is not. I disagree that the Lakers cannot win a title with Kobe being the catalyst. I think they can and will. I just felt like you all were coming down on Bean way to hard when he is a quarter of the problem. 1/4 is coaching, 1/4 is Kobe not trusting his team mates and setting them up for success, 1/4 is Pau’s lack of aggression late in games, and the other 1/4 is a mix of allot of things, but i’ll basically call it “team maturity.” They are not acting like the veteran smart player that they are.

  • http://LAKESHOW albert

    PS BROWN CANT COACH.HE ONLY KNOWS DEFENSE!HE WOULD BE A GREAT ASSISTANT THATS IT.WE SHOULD OF HIRED B SHAW AND THREW BROWN AS OUR DEFENSIVE COACH.THERES A REASON LEBRON LEFT TO MAMI.AND A REASON BROWN WAS DISMISSED HES A CUP CAKE

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    JordanL: Good to see someone watched the game and can break it down accordingly.

  • http://www.slamonline.com megatron

    I’d like to recognize Big23 for having the stupidest comment of the day.

  • http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Video-Don-t-tell-Kobe-Bryant-what-he-can-t-do?urn=nba,233572 nbk

    Lakeshow, I did not say Kobe wouldn’t be the catalyst to the title, he is still the best player on the team, and obviously the guy they go to, to make a play. Just that Kobe is the most fixable problem, all he has to do is stop shooting bad shots in the middle of quarters, and stop disrupting the flow of the offense. (basically set aside his ego a little) – he has been fortunate enough to play on uber talented teams his whole career and hasn’t really had to do that, but sooner or later, if he wants to keep collecting rings, he’s going to have to do that. Sh*t, if he would have set his ego aside in say, 2004, he would probably have 6-8 rings right now.

  • lisa

    F*CK SOPA!!!! I did watch the game and I too was wondering how long will Kobe stay on the bench. When you are Kobe and you’re a winner and, your’re expected to have a near perfect game…. people will critique him as well as LeBron.

  • lisa

    NbK i agree. That’s what is so frustrating about him. His “ego”… one play you’re cheering and the next you’re cringing. He is still my favorite though.

  • http://www.slamonline.com TADOne

    All I saw was the Rockets taking over in the 4th quarter. Let’s stop looking for Lakers to blame and give props to Houston.

  • http://www.slamonline.com TADOne

    Oh, and Bynum was ejected near the end of the 3rd quarter, so he did play some in the second half.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Very good call Tad. Rockets played phenomenal. I understand it’s easy to rag on the former Champ and Kobe because he’s an egotistical freak, but the Rocket are actually a big story here. They impressed me big time last night. They will be in the Playoffs and will make some team piss themselves for sure.

  • http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Video-Don-t-tell-Kobe-Bryant-what-he-can-t-do?urn=nba,233572 nbk

    right Lisa, I mean, honestly before a guy gets to the NBA, an ego like Kobe’s would only serve them positively. Believing you can be the best ever (and having a work ethic to get here) while you are still improving is a trait i am envious of, i wish i had that type of confidence when i was younger. But at this stage, where Kobe is slowly losing a step, he needs to have the ability to take on more of a leadership, win for the team type of role. It’s a small complaint in the grand scheme of things. Dude is still a top 5 player at age 33 after 16 years in the NBA. that’s pretty fuggin nuts.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Again, you said he had a poor shooting night.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    I agree Allen. That’s my new thing. “I agree Allen.” It just makes things easier.
    Seriously though I have no idea what point your trying to make. Zero. No idea. Yes, he did. I agree Allen.

  • robb

    Kobe fan here. His shooting has been terrible the last 2 games. No excuses, but the lack of defense cost them the game.

  • logues

    mike brown’s “im tryin to squeeze out a turd” face irritates me

  • lisa

    The Rockets did play great… but they shouldn’t have won that game. Nbk, I said the same thing after the game. Ofcourse other Kobe fans disagreed.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    At this point I’m just noticing how you’ve cleverly tried to change the narrative to make it seem like people are ragging on Kobe just for kicks, and they are ignoring all the other issues that came up during the game.
    Which of course I never did and neither did anyone else before you made your comment about how everybody ragging on Kobe didn’t have League Pass.
    People said he needs to shoot less.
    Fact.
    They said Sessions gets players better shots.
    Fact.
    They said the offense needs to always go through Bynum and Pau first.
    Fact.
    And they noted that Brown tends to let Kobe slide but comes down hard on Bynum.
    Fact.
    Kobe being Kobe is like Manny being Manny.
    But, just because he had success doing what he does doesn’t make it smart or right or a good quality. Just like LeBron’s choking.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    A friend of mine believes that if Kobe had the choice of leaving the NBA as the first banana, or hanging around as the second banana on a championship squad, he would choose the former.
    I’ve always agreed. At this point, he doesn’t just want to win, he wants to win the way he wants to win. Anything else lacks value.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Kobe already basically said that to Lisa Salters. He said, “you think i’d be here just scoring like 18PPG and deferring to someone else?” or something along those lines. So….

  • http://www.facebook.com/joe.l.brewer3 BlackPhantom

    The fact Mike Brown is f*ckin stupid enough to be starting Steve Blake over Ramon Sessions irks me.

  • Paul H

    It should have been Rick Adelman. All day. I just read over all the comments on this page and It’s pretty much just the same thing repeated over and over again by different people. But then that happens a lot with Kobe discussions. Dig In your heels…

  • http://idunkonthem.blogspot.com albie1kenobi

    i respect AllenP, LakeShow, and nbk because you guys brings something valuable to these boards most of the time, but man, i have NO IDEA what you guys are arguing about on this one. everyone clearly agrees that Bean takes bad shots, but then everyone’s still yelling at each other. i’m dumbfounded as to exactly what the arguing point is.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    mine and lakeshows issue is, i think he defends Kobe about everything, and he thinks i hate on him about everything. Lakeshow and Allen’s problem seems to stem from Lakeshow carelessly throwing phrases together that kind of contradict what he’s tryna say. We all agree that Kobe shoots bad shots, I think it should change, Lakeshow just accepts it, and Allen doesn’t like excuses. Correct me if i’m wrong.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    Ramon Sessions is really smooth–I like that guy. Great pick-up by the Lakers… Funny he didn’t start though. I guess Mike Brown is still trying to wean him into the offense?

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Naw, ya’ll have valid arguments. I’m the Kobe defender on this site though. It’s my job, lol.
    -Kidding aside. In life, or in a comment section on Slam, I don’t like it when people gang up on people. It pisses me off. It doesn’t matter if it’s a kid I don’t know on the street or person on a comment page or a superstar NBA legend. I don’t like it.
    -If you understand that, good. If you don’t, that’s fine. I wouldn’t expect you too.
    - You guys were all chalking this loss as “another kobe chuck fest.” It wasn’t. He took legitimate, regular shots that he shoots and makes often. He also was clutch down the stretch which gave them the opportunity to even get in the game after the Rockets made their run. Bynum was also ejected and Pau didn’t control the paint or rebound what-so-ever. They rarely get out rebounded, but they did by double digits this game. Their defense as a team was terrible. They lost for a number of reasons and that’s all that I was trying to point out while you were all blaming it fully on Kobe…
    -”Toodles”

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    I agree with that synopsis NBK.
    Dude is the second best two guard of all-time, in my opinion. Stop doing dumb ish. I can’t understand why he keeps doing dumb stuff over and over again, and is completely unrepentant about it. At least LeBron now has the decency to admit there is a problem with him in the fourth quarter on occasion.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    I did not blame last nights game on Kobe. I just got in this conversation by showing the Lakers have less success the more Kobe shoots. There is no personal feelings to that. It’s just factual information.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    It’s weird to me that people feel “ganged up” on.
    There have been many, many times on this site when I’ve been the only person on a particular side of an issue, and I didn’t feel ganged up on, I felt like everybody else was wrong and I was right. And I was going out guns blazing to prove it.
    I’m not saying those feelings are invalid, since they are based on your perspective and life experiences, but they are very much foreign to me when it comes to an exchange of ideas.
    Also, I never once mentioned the game against Houston in my comments except to clarify that if it was a chuckfest, it wasn’t an aberration. I didn’t watch the game, so my comments weren’t even ABOUT THE GAME. They were about the reaction of Kobe fans to him shooting poorly, but still shooting a lot. Which happens a lot.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Either way Allen, I would like LeBron to be willing to fail more often. That’s what his problem is too me, he wants himself to be perfect (at the end of games) to the point where he psyches himself out.
    .
    Kobe has the exact opposite fear, he doesn’t care about failure just as long as he is the one who receives the glory.
    .
    A hybrid of the two would be the best basketball player of all-time.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    nbk, Your not wrong.
    -Teddy, Yes Mike Brown’s offense is too intricate to just toss a smart PG in there and expect him to understand everything. I hear he runs something called the “Reverse Triangle.” It’s this multi level, amazing, new… Okay, i’m going to stop there. He has no offense. No idea why he isn’t starting Ramon….

  • http://idunkonthem.blogspot.com albie1kenobi

    ok, now things make a little more sense. good recap, nbk. LakeShow is probably the most reasonable Kobe defender on this site, so i don’t blame you and would expect nothing less from you (there are too many unreasonable ones around here that make any discussion impossible). though i’m not 100% convince that most people on this particular board is ganging up on kobe. maybe i read things differently. you do have your kobe-tinted glasses on, right LakeShow? =)
    AllenP always need to have logical arguments, which i admire, and expect nothing less also.
    ——
    as for my view, i only watched the 4th quarter of the game, and i don’t think kobe was at fault for this one. the defense and lack of rebounding (no Rockets taller than 6’9″ was in the game in 4th quarter) was more of the reason why they lost. and like TAD said, it really was more of the great plays of Rockets than lack of good plays from Lakers.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    No, not I, that was ganged up on Allen. Kobe was. Like I said, you wouldn’t understand. It’a a personality trait that I have. Ya’ll have to remember, it’s not just us on this comment page. Other people say stuff also. I pay attention to most comments when I’m engrossed on Slam like today, because I have cat scratch fever sitting in the office all day when it’s freaking gorgeous outside. The point is that commenters were going in on saying how “Kobe is shooting too much.” Which is a FACT that I agree with. What no one else was saying was how terrible the defense was. How badly they got out rebounded and out played in the post in the 2nd half and that Bynum did not play the second half. That’s the point I was trying to make. Yes we all agree Kobe shoots to much and takes ill advised shots. My point was that Kobe shooting too much or too poorly was still not the main reason why they lost.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    albie’s good people.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    LOL @ Lake.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Albie you are right, for all the Kobe defending Lakeshow does, he is by far the most realistic of the guys that are always defending him. He just takes some stuff a little too personally.

  • http://www.slamonline.com TADOne

    LakeShow, not to nitpick, but Bynum didn’t get ejected till the end of the 3rd quarter. The only quarter he wasn’t in there was the 4th. Which still makes your argument valid but you keep saying he didn’t play the whole second half.

  • http://www.slamonline.com TADOne

    And to touch on the original point of this post, Bynum really irritates me to watch him play. His skills are undeniable but he seems to get in his own way too much. The constant complaining and scowl on his face remind me of Kendrick Perkins. He needs to lighten up and enjoy the game more. Whatever happened to the ‘Quiznos Kid’ Lang reported on as a rookie?

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Good call Tad. I was trying to remember when exactly it happened without a google search lol. I really thought it was the beginning of the 3rd qtr though. Thanks mate.

  • http://idunkonthem.blogspot.com albie1kenobi

    @all: good game guys. see y’all tomorrow.

  • Heals

    AllenP – “I felt like everybody else was wrong and I was right. And I was going out guns blazing to prove it.” SLAM’s Mamba???

  • Heals

    ^^^In total jest, good back-n-forth, n-forth guys…

  • http://slamonline.com The Philosopher

    The King.
    LONG… LIVE… THE KING.

  • deadbored

    Jarret Jack triple double no turnovers!!!!!!!

  • http://www.nesn.com/2012/02/kobe-bryant-says-hes-better-than-michael-jordan-second-to-wilt-chamberlain-as-best-nba-player-ever-v.html shutup

    @Tad i think after Boston beat them in the finals is when I began to dislike Bynum’s fake tough guy routine, I remember the next year he was giving out cheap shot after cheap shot, if he would just play within himself and stays healthy he has the potential to be great, he has a the natural offensive ability that Dwight lacks and is more athletic than his offensive minded peers, such as Jefferson, Lopez or the bigger Gasol.

  • Golakeshow

    This whole fukin comments section proves @lakeshows point Kobe dosen’t have decent teammates. An article on another laker is featured and the only player talked about is Kobe!

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