Andrew Bynum’s Ejection ‘Irritated’ Head Coach Mike Brown

He shouldn’t have shot a better percentage. He should have shot better shots. Which means he probably should have shot less.
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I want the Lakers to play the best basketball possible.
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You want Kobe Bryant to get all the glory he can.
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That’s the only thing I see here.

But Kobe doesn’t need to take 20 shots. He only needs to take about 15. Gasol should get around 12 and Bynum should get about 15 as well. With Ramon running point, they should get easier shots. We have a point gaurd now so there shouldn’t be any excuses. Mike Brown needs to get the team under control. They are championship contenders now… when they play team ball. We know what Kobe can do, he doesn’t have to prove anything.

“Big23 Posted: Mar.21 at 3:20 pm
When Lebron is 33 let see whats his shooting % is haha”
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LeBron’s 2nd worst shooting season would be Kobe’s best shooting season.
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They are completely different players, comparing their shooting % doesn’t really do anything.

nbk, you should know as well as anyone that Kobe shoots the same dam shots every night. This wasn’t a random game where he took “bad shots.” He takes bad shots every game throughout a game. That’s what makes Kobe Kobe. He takes/makes the most ridiculous shots of anyone in League history.
-You all realize that the bench was in for the majority of the 4th while they lost the lead and then Kobe was put in with less than 5 mins remaining. I believe it was actually 4:21 left in the 4th. He proceeded to miss 2 shots. Followed by 3 ridiculous made shots that put them back in the game. You all are acting like Kobe took them out of the game. That’s not true.
-On monday Kobe lost the game for the Lakers. He didn’t take bad shots. He took solid shots that didn’t go in.
-Yesterday, Bynum lost the game for the Lakers. In addition to Pau for not owning the paint like he should.
-Paul H, What do you think the Lakers end game strategy should be? They passed it to Pau and he got pushed off the blosk by Scola and passed out and then looked at Kobe like “So what are you going to do now Kobe?” Pau needs to be more aggressive in the 4th qtr. If you watch the LAkers then you know that Kobe loves passing it to Pau and Drew when they get good position and actually act like they want the ball. They typically are way to passive and Kobe is not the type to just let some role players finish out the game for them.
-lisa, if they are only taking 40 FG attempts as a trio, who do you want taking the other 40? I sure as hell don’t want Steve Blake, Artest, Barnes, McBob taking that many shots.

Lakeshow, Kobe isn’t good enough anymore (atheltically) to take that many bad shots and still compete for a TITLE. I am well aware of how he plays, doesn’t mean it’s not an issue, and a bigger and bigger issue the older he gets. If Kobe shot good shots last night, earlier in the game, maybe the Lakers would have had a big enough lead that he wouldn’t have needed to do what he did in the last 4 minutes at all?
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The rest of the offensive problems you speak of “hey passed it to Pau and he got pushed off the blosk by Scola and passed out and then looked at Kobe like “So what are you going to do now Kobe?” Pau needs to be more aggressive in the 4th qtr.” is something that either Mike Brown needs to fix, or Kobe needs to fix. One of them has to talk to / yell at the rest of the guys about their lack of aggression late in games. Kobe shouldn’t feel the responsibility to jack up fadeaway 20 footers with 2 people on him at ANY point in the game unless the shot clock is expiring.
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I want Kobe to play a smarter brand of basketball so that I can watch the Lakers play at the highest level possible. I don’t like watching games that feature big huge gaping problems in an offense or a defense. If the Lakers roster looked like it did in 2006 you wouldn’t see me saying a damn thing about the shots Kobe is taking, because I would have taken the same shots on that roster (if I were Kobe, ofcourse). You just think us bringing up Kobe’s issues is hating, when really it’s an observation on a basketball website, where we express exactly what we observe.

Wow you are really getting offensive. Call down, there is no need for cursing. Let’s look at the big picture… Forget about Kobe’s % or the fact that Mike Brown put his starters in too late. When the Lakers moved the ball around they looked like a well organized team. If the Lakers can get contributions from their bench like they did last night, they could win a title. Their defense was invisible in the fourth and Kobe(who entered the game with 4:21 left in the 4th) stopped the flow of their offense. We know he takes and makes/misses crazy shots… blah, blah, blah. Why do that (and he didn’t take too many crazy shots last night) when the offense was clicking? Their offense wash stagnant. Just saying.

@TomTom

You are definetely NOT the only one who saw that!!!
I was thinking the EXACT thing you posted… about how Brown waited until less than 5 minutes left to put Kobe back into the game and he probably got cold and stiff sitting on the bench (the older a player gets the easier it is for him to get stiff and cold…. why do you think Nash is always stretching when he is not in the game…..), Then Brown burns up all the timeouts for no reason. Kobe made some great shots to give L.A a chance to win or tie the game… Lakers coulda tied the game….but MIKE BROWN BURNED ALL THE TIMEOUTS!!! So Lakers had no time to get off a shot. And I dont want to hear that as soon as Kobe came back into the game that the Rockets came back…. Because wen he was waiting to come in, Rockets had already made a run to bring the Laker lead down to 7pts. Then if you watched the game you will see that all 3 WIDE OPEN jumpers were defensive mistakes on Metta World Peace’s part. If you watch the replays you will see in each and every 3 that Metta was coming for a late contest because he was sleeping on defense….

WHY IS LAKERS DEFENSE SO ATROCIOUS ON THE ROAD????!!!!!!

They are lockdown on defense at home only giving up 89pts… and then on the road they give up like 107pts??? That’s amazing! Especially with a team who has been together and has veterans.

lisa, I didn’t read your post cause you asked me to stop cursing. I said “hell” I don’t even think that’s cursing. F*ck SOPA and people like it.
- Fair observations nbk. No I don’t think it’s hating. I think it’s hating to act like things he does that are impressive are not impressive, but calling him out on his flaws is not. I disagree that the Lakers cannot win a title with Kobe being the catalyst. I think they can and will. I just felt like you all were coming down on Bean way to hard when he is a quarter of the problem. 1/4 is coaching, 1/4 is Kobe not trusting his team mates and setting them up for success, 1/4 is Pau’s lack of aggression late in games, and the other 1/4 is a mix of allot of things, but i’ll basically call it “team maturity.” They are not acting like the veteran smart player that they are.

JordanL: Good to see someone watched the game and can break it down accordingly.

Lakeshow, I did not say Kobe wouldn’t be the catalyst to the title, he is still the best player on the team, and obviously the guy they go to, to make a play. Just that Kobe is the most fixable problem, all he has to do is stop shooting bad shots in the middle of quarters, and stop disrupting the flow of the offense. (basically set aside his ego a little) – he has been fortunate enough to play on uber talented teams his whole career and hasn’t really had to do that, but sooner or later, if he wants to keep collecting rings, he’s going to have to do that. Sh*t, if he would have set his ego aside in say, 2004, he would probably have 6-8 rings right now.

NbK i agree. That’s what is so frustrating about him. His “ego”… one play you’re cheering and the next you’re cringing. He is still my favorite though.

Oh, and Bynum was ejected near the end of the 3rd quarter, so he did play some in the second half.

right Lisa, I mean, honestly before a guy gets to the NBA, an ego like Kobe’s would only serve them positively. Believing you can be the best ever (and having a work ethic to get here) while you are still improving is a trait i am envious of, i wish i had that type of confidence when i was younger. But at this stage, where Kobe is slowly losing a step, he needs to have the ability to take on more of a leadership, win for the team type of role. It’s a small complaint in the grand scheme of things. Dude is still a top 5 player at age 33 after 16 years in the NBA. that’s pretty fuggin nuts.

I agree Allen. That’s my new thing. “I agree Allen.” It just makes things easier.
Seriously though I have no idea what point your trying to make. Zero. No idea. Yes, he did. I agree Allen.

mike brown’s “im tryin to squeeze out a turd” face irritates me

At this point I’m just noticing how you’ve cleverly tried to change the narrative to make it seem like people are ragging on Kobe just for kicks, and they are ignoring all the other issues that came up during the game.
Which of course I never did and neither did anyone else before you made your comment about how everybody ragging on Kobe didn’t have League Pass.
People said he needs to shoot less.
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They said Sessions gets players better shots.
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They said the offense needs to always go through Bynum and Pau first.
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And they noted that Brown tends to let Kobe slide but comes down hard on Bynum.
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Kobe being Kobe is like Manny being Manny.
But, just because he had success doing what he does doesn’t make it smart or right or a good quality. Just like LeBron’s choking.

Kobe already basically said that to Lisa Salters. He said, “you think i’d be here just scoring like 18PPG and deferring to someone else?” or something along those lines. So….

It should have been Rick Adelman. All day. I just read over all the comments on this page and It’s pretty much just the same thing repeated over and over again by different people. But then that happens a lot with Kobe discussions. Dig In your heels…

mine and lakeshows issue is, i think he defends Kobe about everything, and he thinks i hate on him about everything. Lakeshow and Allen’s problem seems to stem from Lakeshow carelessly throwing phrases together that kind of contradict what he’s tryna say. We all agree that Kobe shoots bad shots, I think it should change, Lakeshow just accepts it, and Allen doesn’t like excuses. Correct me if i’m wrong.

Naw, ya’ll have valid arguments. I’m the Kobe defender on this site though. It’s my job, lol.
-Kidding aside. In life, or in a comment section on Slam, I don’t like it when people gang up on people. It pisses me off. It doesn’t matter if it’s a kid I don’t know on the street or person on a comment page or a superstar NBA legend. I don’t like it.
-If you understand that, good. If you don’t, that’s fine. I wouldn’t expect you too.
- You guys were all chalking this loss as “another kobe chuck fest.” It wasn’t. He took legitimate, regular shots that he shoots and makes often. He also was clutch down the stretch which gave them the opportunity to even get in the game after the Rockets made their run. Bynum was also ejected and Pau didn’t control the paint or rebound what-so-ever. They rarely get out rebounded, but they did by double digits this game. Their defense as a team was terrible. They lost for a number of reasons and that’s all that I was trying to point out while you were all blaming it fully on Kobe…
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I did not blame last nights game on Kobe. I just got in this conversation by showing the Lakers have less success the more Kobe shoots. There is no personal feelings to that. It’s just factual information.

Either way Allen, I would like LeBron to be willing to fail more often. That’s what his problem is too me, he wants himself to be perfect (at the end of games) to the point where he psyches himself out.
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Kobe has the exact opposite fear, he doesn’t care about failure just as long as he is the one who receives the glory.
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A hybrid of the two would be the best basketball player of all-time.

ok, now things make a little more sense. good recap, nbk. LakeShow is probably the most reasonable Kobe defender on this site, so i don’t blame you and would expect nothing less from you (there are too many unreasonable ones around here that make any discussion impossible). though i’m not 100% convince that most people on this particular board is ganging up on kobe. maybe i read things differently. you do have your kobe-tinted glasses on, right LakeShow? =)
AllenP always need to have logical arguments, which i admire, and expect nothing less also.
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as for my view, i only watched the 4th quarter of the game, and i don’t think kobe was at fault for this one. the defense and lack of rebounding (no Rockets taller than 6’9″ was in the game in 4th quarter) was more of the reason why they lost. and like TAD said, it really was more of the great plays of Rockets than lack of good plays from Lakers.

albie’s good people.

Albie you are right, for all the Kobe defending Lakeshow does, he is by far the most realistic of the guys that are always defending him. He just takes some stuff a little too personally.