Wednesday, March 7th, 2012 at 8:35 am  |  86 responses

Post Up: Charlotte’s Win

Dallas halts the Knicks, wins for three Eastern powers, plus Detroit and the ‘Cats pull upsets.

by Abe Schwadron | @abe_squad

A six-pack of games to get to from last night, including a pair of contests that needed OT and a rare win for Charlotte. No time to waste, so let’s hit it.

Bobcats 100, Magic 84

When a team’s lost 21 of its last 22, and your team has Dwight Howard, you aren’t supposed to lose. Orlando didn’t get that message, apparently, since the Magic got blown out of the gym in Charlotte by the now 5-31 Bobcats, who shot 48 percent, including a season-high 29 points from Corey Maggette. Head coach Paul Silas got ejected in the second quarter with his team trailing by 18, and the Bobcats proceeded to go on a 20-0 run that lasted through halftime. Oh, and that Howard fella? He finished with 15 points and 17 rebounds (a typical night for DH12) but rookie Bismack Biyombo played him tough, racking up 10 points, 15 rebounds, and 7 blocks—he may not have matched Dwight’s production, but he nearly neutralized it. The Magic shot 39 percent from the field, turned it over 18 times, and had no answer for Gerald Henderson in the fourth quarter (he finished with 16). Charlotte doesn’t win all that often, so we ought to celebrate when they do!

Hawks 101, Pacers 96

I still don’t get how Josh Smith wasn’t an All-Star. Averaging 27 ppg and 13 rpg in his last 3 games, he came into this matchup with the Pacers and did it again—this time with 27 points on 19 shots, 9 rebounds and had 11 of ATL’s 18 points in the third quarter alone. David West scored a season-high 24 points, and Danny Granger’s 3-point play with under 30 seconds left made it a 1-point game. But after a pair of Jerry Stackhouse (yes, he’s still alive) free throws and the Pacers trailing by 3 with 22 seconds remaining, Granger clanked a 3-pointer, giving the Hawks their third straight win without Joe Johnson. Granger finished with 19 points and 8 rebounds, but Indiana fell to 23-14 on the year. Atlanta meanwhile had 23 assists (9 from Jeff Teague) to just 13 from Indy, and is now 23-15 on the year after taking the season series with the Pacers, 2-1.

Celtics 97, Rockets 92 (OT)

No matter how old they get, you can’t hate on the Celtics (okay, you can, but give them some credit every once in a while). Paul Pierce dropped 30 points—7 big ones in overtime—and Kevin Garnett passed Shaquille O’Neal for No. 12 on the all-time rebounding list, and Boston outlasted the Rockets to get to 20-17 on the year. The Cs have now won 5 in a row, while Houston has dropped 4 straight, as the Rockets couldn’t even find a good shot down 3 points with under 30 ticks left in the extra period. Ray Allen added 21 for Boston, KG finished with a 13×13 double-double and the Celtics held H-Town to 39 percent field goal shooting on a night when neither team could get anything to go from downtown. Six players scored in double figures for the Rockets, who got double-doubles from Luis Scola (18×14) and Samuel Dalembert (11×17) and an all-too-typical 18-7-7 line from Kyle Lowry.

Heat 108, Nets 78

Miami made 12 of its first 15 shots, opened up a 30-17 lead after one quarter and never looked back, leaving the recently Brook Lopez-less Nets in the dust as they improved to 29-9 on the year. The Heat shot 58 percent from the field while New Jersey hit on just 37 percent of its field goals, and MIA played 13 players—none better than LeBron James, who finished with 21 points, 9 rebounds and 6 assists. Dwyane Wade (13 points) left the game after rolling his ankle with 1:30 to go in the first half and did not return (why would he?) despite saying that he could have gutted it out if necessary. Frankly, it wasn’t necessary, since Chris Bosh decided to go hard in his first game back from personal leave, dropping 20 points in only 24 minutes of playing time. Even Deron Williams couldn’t stomach this game—he played only 26 minutes, scoring 16 points on 7-13 shooting before bowing out. New Jersey hosts the Clippers tonight at home.

Pistons 88, Lakers 85 (OT)

Kobe Bryant went vintage Black Mamba on the Pistons to end regulation, sinking a jumper at the buzzer over Tayshaun Prince to tie the game at 78-78 and send it to overtime, but Rodney Stuckey scored 6 of his 34 in the extra period as Detroit stunned the Lakers at the Palace, dropping L.A. to 23-15. It was Andrew Bynum who led the Lake Show with 30 points, 14 rebounds and 3 blocked shots, while Kobe scored 22 points on 8-26 shooting and Pau Gasol chipped in 20 points, 10 boards and 6 assists. But Stuckey scored 17 in the first quarter, then 17 in the fourth quarter and OT to lead the Pistons, who won despite shooting a worse percentage than the Lakers from the field and finishing up with fewer rebounds and assists. Detroit got just 2 points from Greg Monroe (1-10 shooting) but he had 15 rebounds, and Ben Gordon delivered a 15-5-5 line off the pine.

Mavericks 95, Knicks 85

Amar’e Stoudemire gave the Knicks a 78-77 lead with just under 5 minutes to play. Unfortunately for New York, that’s when the Mavericks decided it was time to play ball—they went on a 16-3 run (including 14 straight) and by the final minute, the game was out of reach for STAT and company. The defending champions took home a 10-point W to improve to 23-17 on the year on the strength of 28 points from Dirk Nowitzki, 18 from Roddy Beaubois and a season-high 15 from Jason Kidd, who also handed out 6 assists. Bothe teams shot under 39 percent for the game, but no one had a worse outing than Carmelo Anthony, who made just 2 of his 12 shot attempts and scored 6 points in his 31 minutes of action. On the night Tyson Chandler was honored for his role in the Mavs’ championship last year, it was Stoudemire who led the Knicks with 26 points, while Jeremy Lin chipped in 14 to go with 7 dimes. Dallas held a 26-15 advantage at the free throw line, and held up in the paint despite being without Brendan Haywood. New York shot 6-23 from beyond the arc, and fell to 18-20.

Line of the Night: Fine, Rodney Stuckey can have it for his 34 points. But I’m not happy about it!

Moment of the Night: Sure, they lost, but this was vintage Kobe Bryant to end regulation. And LeBron puts the exclamation on a blowout of the Nets to end the third quarter.

Dunk of the Night: Chris Bosh back? Chris Bosh back.

Tonight: I’ll be covering Clippers-Nets, so you’ll have to forgive me ahead of time for an abbreviated Post Up tomorrow, but we’ve got 13 games going on, including Boston-Philly, Heat-Hawks, Blazers-Wolves, Knicks-Spurs and more. Thankfully, my presence at the Prudential Center means I’ll probably miss most of Lakers at Wizards.

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  • http://slamonline.com datkid

    Dwight howard WILL not stay after this. then again he really isn’t aggressive enough. How do you let a rookie lock you down like that? smh. allen wasn’t mcgrady a decent shooter at one point?

  • Myung

    Teddy, you and I are both big fans of Jeremy. I went to see him play for the Mavs summer League team in Vegas in July of 2010 and went to see him play as a Warrior vs. the Hawks last season, although he freaking got sent down to the D League that very day (very disappointing for me and my friends). That being said, I think you’re discounting Baron’s game if you say all the does better than Jeremy is dribble. I don’t know if Baron’s body will hold up, but let’s not forget how good a player he was as recently as early last season. In my subjectivity, I’d rather see Jeremy get PT over Baron, but it still doesn’t mean he’s a hands down better player. By next year (Jeremy will have more experience under his belt and Baron will be one year older), I think I’d take Jeremy all day. But as of right now? There’s a major lack of experience (particularly big game experience), and PG is the most important position on the court, ESPECIALLY in the D’antoni system. Again, I’m NOT saying Baron is better, but it would NOT shock me if he slowly started getting crunch time minutes over Jeremy once the postseason arrives. I don’t want to see that happen, but it wouldn’t shock me if it did. A healthy Baron Davis is a very legit PG in this league.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    It after his first three or four years Datkid. Check out basketball reference for proof. Also Vince had an underrated career in some ways.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Vince has had a very underrated career. But that comes with through the roof expectations. And how quickly he became elite. It took him what, 1 year?

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    I don’t really watch that much DET basketball, so can someone tell me whether or not Greg Monroe is a bad defender because last night during the 4th qtr and OT, the coach went with BWallace and JMaxiell against a big LA frontline when 6-11 253 Monroe would have been the better option with the way LA bigs were dominanting on the offensive and defensive end.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Monroe is pretty much average on D. I will say this though, he is more of a PF on defense then a Center. He works better in active defensive roles then the anchor role.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Wayno

    @ Myung – Detroit won’t get near that #8 spot. Part of me want’s them to get a great pick in the draft, but I just can’t bring myself to hope for losses. I always want them to win games, so I don’t want them to tank either. Ideal situation is that the young guys continue to get experience and learn coach Franks system while losing some close games and pulling out some unlikely wins (like last night). Hopefully they’ll still get a top 5ish draft pick.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Wayno

    cosign nbk – He’s not terrible, but true centers tend to eat him alive. He’d be fine as more of a complimentary defender. A good defensive center would do wonders for him and for Detroit.

  • http://www.slamonline.com TADOne

    JTaylor, Monroe is actually a pretty good defender for only hid 2nd year in the league. What happened in the game last night was that Monroe was struggling very bad offensively and was letting it carry over to the defensive side (although he did have 15 rebounds). He was getting worked by Bynum, which is no surprise considering he is actually a PF playing C for the Pistons. Frank decided to let Wallace play down the stretch because he was doing a good job putting a body on Bynum. Same for Maxiell doing a good job getting Pau off his post position.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    What’s the consensus on Rodney Stuckey now? He’s finally able to play the 2 guard and it looks like he’s doing a helluva job.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    From the POV of someone who watches almost no Detroit basketball.

  • http://www.slamonline.com TADOne

    Also adding to the Monroe comment: he plays right now around 255-260 but his body type is ideal for him to play at around 270-275. He definitely needs to get stronger and will. I look for him to add that magical 15 pounds of muscle this summer. And as Wayno suggested, Detroit’s dream scenario would be to add one of the coveted bigs in the draft so that they could move Monroe to his more natural PF position.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    He looks great and then he looks bad.

  • Myung

    Think about how good Utah can be next year. They own Golden State’s pick, and while it’s top 7 protected this year, let’s say Golden State gets the 8th pick and Utah gets the 12th pick (very possible). That’s two lottery picks in a loaded draft, to add to a young team of Kanter, Favors, Jefferson, and Millsap (best young frontcourt in the NBA?). If Utah drafts or deals wisely (they probably need to deal Jefferon, right?), you’re talking about a legit force by next year, which is a crazy quick turnaround, considering they lost their three franchise cornerstones a year ago (Boozer and Deron Williams and AK47).

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Jefferson or Millsap are going to get traded sooner or later. In fact I know Utah has been shopping Jefferson for a while, it’s just hard to find a team that wants to pay a big guy who shoots more then Nick Young and plays less defense then Amar’e Stoudemire the $29M dollars he is owed between this season and next.

  • http://www.slamonline.com TADOne

    Teddy, read my 9:57 comment on Stuckey. But to elaborate on it further: I still have high hopes for Stuckey, especially now that the Pistons finally understand he is more of a 2 guard than a PG. I believe Stuckey regressed because they kept force feeding him the PG position instead of letting him do what he does best: getting into the paint and getting to the line. He is still handling about half of the PG duties because coach Frank doesn’t want to rush Brandon Knight into that duty full time at 19. I believe by next season Stuckey could be a 20 PPG scorer. He just has to stay diligent.

  • Myung

    Joe Johnson for Al Jefferson sounds about right. The only way you can trade one bad contract is to trade it for another (see: Gilbert Arenas and Rashard Lewis, circa last trade deadline).

  • http://www.slamonline.com TADOne

    I would trade Ben Gordon straight up for Al Jeffersons contract.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    I think Utah value’s Jefferson too high. I heard a couple weeks ago they inquired the Warriors about Monta Ellis. Now we all know I’m not the biggest Monta fan around here, but that’s just absurd. Al Jefferson is supremely overrated if anyone really thinks he’s THAT good.

  • http://www.slamonline.com TADOne

    Al Jefferson was that good…..3 years ago.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Yeah before his knee imploded.

  • AD

    wouldnt it be funny if deron williams was traded to dallas…. i would be mad as hell but it would be funny.

  • http://slamonline.com datkid

    smh people must have forgot about B.dizzle… before Donald sterling made him eat his own soul, homie was a VERY good player. and I hear you allen and nbk. what exactly caused him to shoot worse though?

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    McGrady’s shooting % seems to reflect his athleticism.

  • http://slamonline.com datkid

    hmmm

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Nah, I think it reflects that he thought that he could shoot. He was athletic in Orlando, and still shot 43 percent. He thought he was a better shooter than he really was, starting settling for long jumpers and jacking bad threes, and that was that.
    Look at his three pointers attempted. I imagine if hoopdata existed back then, it would show that in addition to those threes he took tons of really long two pointers. Dude didn’t have to settle, he just liked doing it because it was the easier shot. He could still get to the hole, he just didn’t want the hassle.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    ahh good point, i did not notice those 7.73PTA in 04. That’s just crazy.

  • el_larsen

    deeeeeeeeeeeeeeetroit basketball!!
    i was not sold on rodney stuckey,but ,to my delight,he seems to be rising with lawrence franck.he and bk7 will form a great backcourt
    nice defense from tay prince on kobe(except for the tying shot)like in 2004 kobe struggled instead of feeding bynum
    tad one and wayno,who do you want in the draft?i go with harrison barnes
    and i m sold on jerebko

  • el_larsen

    not sold sorry

  • http://www.slamonline.com Wayno

    Jerebko is nice off the bench, he’s not a starter. Barnes is nice, the could use his scoring. Aonthony Davis is still who I want the most…him playing next to Monroe would be unbelievable.

  • el_larsen

    yeah davis is the man but he ll be gone .
    so there s drummond kidd gilchrist (sorry)who is a great on defense.
    i maybe crazy but would you trade (gordon,bynum ,or jerebko)for …beasley?

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    Yeah fair enough, Myung. I just don’t think it would be wise for the Knicks to change up after winning that many games with Lin at the helm. But Baron might be able to co-exist with Melo a lot easier than Lin.

  • http://www.slamonline.com TADOne

    With the way the lottery is chosen, Detroit could very well be in the top 3 in the draft. With that said you aim high and go for Davis. Andre Drummond and Harrison Barnes would be the next bigs off the board. If you don’t get those 3 you still have Sullinger and John Henson or the kid from Miss St, Moultrie (sp?). Bottom line there are a ton of talented bigs coming out and that should be where Detroit focuses. The only position I would consider if I was Dumars would be SF and the targets would be either Kidd-Gilchrist from Kentucky or Perry Jones from Baylor ( who could also be a PF)

  • http://www.slamonline.com TADOne

    *the only OTHER position

  • eyal

    @joemama. i’m in the oriental province near the ugandan border. I’ll have to check out lubumbashi…

  • Justin G.

    Correct me if I’m wrong but wasn’t McGrady starting to have back issues then as well. Some stop taking it to the hole when they fear landing the wrong way and reinjuring themselves, especially with something as tough as a back injury.

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