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Thursday, March 15th, 2012 at 8:35 am  |  98 responses

Post Up: Derrick Who?

Chicago beats Miami minus the MVP, the Knicks snap a six-game slide and 10 more games.

by Abe Schwadron | @abe_squad

After all the Dwight Howard drame (the “Dwightmare,” if you will) yesterday, it was nice to finally watch some basketball decided on the court. (By the way, it’s entirely possible that by the time you read this, it will already be out of date. Cut a guy a break, it’s not my fault Dwight is a flip-flopping night owl.) And the dozen games on deck did not disappoint, from a second straight overtime win for the Lakers to Chicago’s dominance over Miami even without DRose to one night’s worth of revolution in New York.  Let’s get it started.

Pacers 111, Sixers 94

For a second night in a row, Indiana got huge performances from its bench, led by 17 points from George Hill and 14 from Tyler Hansbrough. The Pacers’ bench outscored Philadelphia’s 47-20, and Indy shot a season-high 57 percent from the field as a team to improve to 25-16 on the year. Prior to the win, Indiana had dropped 8 straight games to teams with winning records. Danny Granger led the Pacers with 20 points and David West chipped in 18—he and Roy Hibbert (14 points, 9 rebounds, 3 blocked shots) dominated the Sixers in the paint, even with Spencer Hawes back on the court for Philly. The Sixers, who trailed by as many as 19 at one point despite shooting 53 percent, once again got a monster game from Evan Turner, who racked up 21 points on 9-11 shooting, 5 rebounds, 4 assists, 3 steals and 2 blocks in his 38 minutes.

Nets 98, Raptors 84

With no Deron Williams (again), the Nets turned to unlikely go-to guys Kris Humphries and Gerald Green to beat the Raptors for perhaps the last time before the New Jersey is turned completely upside down. Humphries snagged a career-high 21 rebounds to go with his 16 points (plus 3 each assists, steals and blocks) and Green scored 20 of his game-high 26 points in the second half to beat the Raptors. As a team, the Nets shot 48 percent from the field, while Toronto shot just 38 percent, including 1-10 from the 3-point line. The Raps were led in scoring by Jerryd Bayless and James Johnson, who scored 16 apiece and DeMar Derozan threw down a nasty alley-oop. Unfortunately, Toronto elected to play only token defense and Andrea Bargnani scored just 10 points on 4-13 shooting.

Knicks 121, Trail Blazers 79

Jeez, either the Knicks really hated Mike D’Antoni or the Blazers are completely falling apart. Either way, after last night’s game, Nate McMillan might be joining Mike D on the coaching free agent list. His team trailed by as many as 42 (!) while shooting 37 percent from the field and looking generally, well, terrible. Ray Felton shot 2-10 with 5 turnovers to just 3 assists and LaMarcus Aldridge was thoroughly outplayed by Amar’e Stoudemire, who looked like his old self—he finished with 17 easy points (8-10 shooting) and 8 rebounds to LMA’s 15 and 7 on 5-15 field goals. Jeremy Lin took just 4 shots (6 points) while racking up 6 assists and 6 turnovers, but Carmelo Anthony had 16, Baron Davis had 10 dimes and bench warriors JR Smith (23 points, 7 threes) and Steve Novak (20 points, 6 threes) finished things off for New York in a much-needed victory, snapping a 6-game skid.

Bucks 115, Cavaliers 105

Keeping tabs on every basketball game on every weeknight of an entire NBA season, I knew I’d see and learn things that would surprise me. But if you told me I’d be writing about a Drew Gooden triple-double, I would have laughed in your face. Well, here we are. Gooden posted a 15-10-13—yes, 13 assists—and led the suddenly surging Bucks to a win over Kyrie Irving (28 points) and the Cavaliers. What’s even crazier: DG completed the task in the third quarter, then sat out the fourth. What’s even crazier than that: it’s not his first triple-double, he notched one last year. Against these same Cavs. Okay, Drew Gooden shock notwithstanding, the Bucks have won 4 straight despite 10 fourth-quarter points from Irving, and now await the on-court debut of new addition Monta Ellis, who was not in uniform last night.

Lakers 107, Hornets 101 (OT)

With 1:07 to go in the first half, the Hornets held a 17-point lead. Then, the wheels fell off. The Lakers outscored New Orleans 53-39 in the second half, and rookie Gustavo Ayon fouled Kobe Bryant on a 3-point attempt with less than 20 seconds to play, sending the Masked Man to the free throw line with a chance to tie the game at 93. He calmly cashed all three free tosses, and after potential game-winners didn’t go down for either team in the final seconds, we headed for overtime—the second straight OT night for Los Angeles. In the extra frame, Metta World Peace picked Jarret Jack’s pocket with 40 seconds to play and went in for a layup to give the Lakers a 3-point lead. From there, the Lake Show held on to get to 27-16 on the year. Jack scored a season-high 30 points to lead the Hornets, but Kobe (33 points), Andrew Bynum (25 points, 18 rebounds) and Pau Gasol (18 and 10) all had monster games for L.A. in the victory. The Lakers are now 4-1 in overtime games this year, while the Hornets are losers of 8 of their last 10 games.

Rockets 107, Bobcats 87

Houston took a 10-point lead into halftime, then exploded to outscore Charlotte 36-17 in the third quarter, and the Rockets pounded the hapless Bobcats, who are now 3-20 on the road this season. Luis Scola scored 12 of his game-high 23 points in that third quarter, repeatedly taking advantage of the ‘Cats soft frontline. Houston outrebounded Charlotte 46-30, outshot them 54 percent to 41 percent, and led by as many as 29. Even without the services of Kyle Lowry or Kevin Martin, the Rockets had no problem dispatching of the Bobcats, who were led in scoring by reserve forward Derrick Brown, who had 15 points. Rookie Kemba Walker shot 3-13 (0-4 on threes) and scored just 6 points, bu did have 8 assists in 28 minutes.

Spurs 122, Magic 111

If come this afternoon Dwight Howard is on a new NBA team, he will have ended his runin Orlando with a loss, as the Spurs fought off his 22 points, 12 rebounds and 3 blocked shots to overcome a double-digit Magic lead and improve to 28-13 on the season. Both teams shot 52 percent from the field, but Tony Parker led the Spurs with 31 points and 12 assists, and was so good down the stretch that the home crowd in San Antonio chanted “MVP!” for the veteran point guard. And since he saw his buddy doing so well, Tim Duncan put up 21 points and 13 rebounds of his own. Also, did Jameer Nelson suddenly realize that Dwight’s on the verge of making his exit? He played extremely well for the second straight game, scoring a team-high 25 points and added 7 assists and 5 boards.

Bulls 106, Heat 102

For the first time since teaming up in Miami, Dwyane Wade and LeBron James each scored 35+ points in the same game. And Derrick Rose, reigning MVP and Chicago’s best player, took the night off to nurse a sore groin. So, the Heat won going away right? Nope. The Bulls had 6 players score in double figures, taking an 11-point lead into halftime and opening up a 17-point lead in the second half before holding off Miami in the waning moments to steal a win over their rival atop the Eastern Conference. Chicago (36-9) now has a 3.5 game lead over the Heat in the East, after riding 24 points off the bench from John Lucas III in DRose’s absence and surviving 36 from DWade and 35 from LeBron. The lead was never safe, as James Jones hit a pair of desperation threes with less than 10 seconds left to keep the Heat alive. But in the end, the Bulls walked away with the win—due in large part to shutting down Chris Bosh, who shot just 3-15 (12 points) and had more turnovers than rebounds (4 to 3). No other Heat player scored more than 6 points.

Pistons 124, Kings 112

Coming in, Detroit had lost 17 straight road tilts against Western Conference opponents. 35 points from Rodney Stuckey and 32 form Greg Monroe helped squash that ugly streak, as the Pistons shot 58 percent from the floor and scored 40 points in the third quarter to beat the Kings. Last time these two teams hooked up, Monroe scored just 3 points. This time he scorched DeMarcus Cousins for a 32-11-3 line, while holding DMC to 14 and 7 on 5-15 shooting. Jason Thompson was the Kings’ best big, finishing with 21 points and 15 boards, and Tyreke Evans led Sacramento with 23 points, but rolled his ankle late and limped off the court. For the Pistons, Tayshaun Prince eclipsed the 9,000 career point mark with 28 on the night.

Suns 120, Jazz 111

Amazingly enough, Phoenix is still in the hunt for the last Playoff spot in the Western Conference, and with last night’s win over the Jazz, they pulled even with Utah at 20-22 on the year, just 3 games back of Houston for that 8-seed. Jared Dudley scored 11 straight points for the Suns in a critical third-quarter stretch and PHX pulled out to a double-digit lead, one they used to hold off a late Utah surge. Channing Frye scored a season-high 26 points, including 5 three-pointers, as Paul Millsap (18 points, 10 rebounds) struggled to keep up with him on the perimeter, and the Suns have now won 6 straight against the Jazz and 6 of their last 7 home games. Steve Nash had 12 points and 16 assists—more than a few to Marcin Gortat, who scored 25 points. Phoenix outscored Utah 23-12 from the free throw line.

Clippers 96, Hawks 82

Lob Angeles snapped a 3-game home losing streak behind 25 points off the bench from Mo Williams and 54 percent shooting as a team. Chris Paul scored 13 points and handed out 9 dimes sans mask, Eric Bledsoe scored 14 and Blake Griffin delivered a 12-10-4 line as the Clippers. Zaza Pachulia matched Blake with 12 and 10, and Joe Johnson and Josh Smith led the Hawks with 19 and 18 points respectively, but Atlanta never led in this one—a game that featured two uptempo teams but that produced only 15 fast break points combined from both sides. DeAndre Jordan’s minutes continue to be limited, but he did shoot 4-4 with 8 points, 2 blocks and 6 rebounds in his 22 minutes, plus one big-time throwdown.

Celtics 105, Warriors 103

Nate Robinson scored driving layups on consecutive possessions in the final minute to tie the game at 103-103, but Kevin Garnett stroked a long jumper with 5.1 seconds remaining in regulation and the Celtics escaped Golden State with a win to improve to 23-19. Both teams shot lights out from the field (the Warriors 53 percent, Boston 51 percent) and the Celtics nearly took an L to the Dubs without Stephen Curry (hurt) and Monta Ellis (traded) due to 8 fourth-quarter turnovers. But behind a throwback performance from Garnett—who finished with 24 points, 7 boards and 5 assists—and 14 assists from Rajon Rondo, the Cs held off Golden State. The Warriors were led in scoring by Klay Thompson’s 26 points and got a huge late spark from NateRob, who put up 20 and 11 assists, but they made just 5 of 23 three-pointers in this game.

Line of the Night: The most unlikely of triple-doubles by Drew Gooden, who went for 15 points, 10 rebounds, and 13 assists. Yes, Drew Gooden, people. Simply perplexing.

Moment of the Night: Kevin Garnett beats the Warriors with a game-winning jumper.

Dunk of the Night: Will we ever see Dwight finish an oop in these colors again? And Joakim Noah puts his man-dunk on the Heat after swatting DWade at the other end.

Tonight: A 5-spot of post-deadline games kicks off at 8 with Wizards-Hornets, plus Thunder-Nuggets and a blowout alert in Dallas as the defending Champs host the Bobcats.

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  • Bmack

    Hey aren’t the heat supposed to be better than the bulls, even with Derrick Rose? And isn’t your superstar supposed to score more than two points in the fourth quarter *cough lebron cough*

  • T-Money

    so i see that woodson is being quite the contrarian and is dead set on running his offense through his two best players. bold. jokes aside, as allenp said yesterday, j-lin is off the juice now. let’s see if he’s a real nba point guard or if he’s better suited as a combo guard/gunner off the bench.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Wayno

    Rodney Stuckey has really been shutting up his critics lately…he’s been ballin out of his mind! I think he’s making a legitimate case that he should be mentioned with Greg Monroe and Brandon Knight as a building block for the Pistons future. Also, I was a little disheartened last time Detroit played Scramento and Cousins dominated Greg Monroe…I was really glad to see Greg dominate this time around. Watching those two play against each other is going to be fun for a long time. Seriously though, Detroit has taken some strides toward improvment this season under coach Frank…very encouraging. Now they just need to find more players to put around Monroe, Knight, and Stuckey.

  • http://slamonline.com datkid

    this post will be all about the heat very soon. smh I’m out.

  • http://www.slamonline.com TADOne

    That 666 line for Lin is not a good sign.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    What was wrong with Detroit early in the year? They are playing like a typical young squad now, but early on they played like they hated each other and their coach.
    How did the switch flip?

  • http://juan.garcia@computershare.com NBA Head

    This team is still not championship material.

  • http://juan.garcia@computershare.com NBA Head

    and you all know who I’m talking about…

  • http://www.slamonline.com TADOne

    Wayno, there isn’t any doubt that Stuckey is part of the Pistons future. I think he is finally putting it all together and it is great to see. The mental part of his game was the last thing holding him back and he is finally starting to master that. All the Pistons need now is a dominant big man to team with Monroe and a talented wing. They will be able to get one (or both) in the draft. And I would seriously consider cutting Charlie V after the season and eating his salary.

  • http://www.slamonline.com TADOne

    Allen, when you consider all that happened last year with Kuester as coach and then factor in a new coach, very short training camp and two of your best players being a rookie and 2nd year player, you are going to have some growing pains. Factor in everything I have mentioned about Stuckey finally figuring out his game and you have genuine improvement.

  • el_larsen

    cosign TADOne,rodney mental seems to have improved and now he s focused on the game.coach Franck trust him so he s more confident on both ends of the floor.
    great game for tay and of course the moose.we should go after beasley and then draft drummond

  • http://www.slamonline.com TADOne

    I don’t think I have read anything on Slam about Drew Gooden since that ugly pig tail he had on the back of his head 3 years ago. Good job Drew. You will be irrelevant again by next week.

  • http://nyill.wordpress.com Enigmatic

    So regarding Chicago/Miami – legitimate question.
    Did both teams play hard (word to Sheed) or did the Heat lack interest due to it being the second game of a back to back and Derrick Rose not playing?
    I had a Twitter convo with a regular SLAM commenter slash Heat fan who insists if the Heat actually cared, they would’ve EASILY knocked the socks of a Rose-less Bulls team.
    I think the Bulls were just the better team last night, Rose or not.
    As for which team is truly better, of course we’ll have to wait till the playoffs to find out.
    Oh, and Thibs for coach of the year again!

  • http://www.slamonline.com TADOne

    NNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don’t want no parts of Beasley. Let the Lakers have him.

  • el_larsen

    better idea (but i m dreaming):trade for javalee mcgee and then draft harrisson barnes
    wow mcgee and moose together would be great

  • el_larsen

    lol TADone beasley is fun,he would be the new sheed(anyway i hope he wont be a laker!)

  • http://www.slamonline.com Wayno

    @ Allen – it’s hard to say…I think the fact that they were adjusting to a new coach and all that had something to do with it. Maybe some bad attitudes carried over from their mess of a season last year. They’ve been inconsistent, but have improved alot. Also, Stuckey has been the main reason for thier improvement this season. He started the season slow, but once February rolled around he was focused and has really been carrying them on offense. He’s been scoring like the go to scorer that they need.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Wayno

    I feel like there is one of those Drew Gooden moments every season…like he’s mediocre all year then he has one or two games that make you do a double take at the box score.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    That’s how Gooden gets his contracts.

  • http://www.slamonline.com TADOne

    I’m quite sure I don’t want McGee either. But I’m sure Allen will tell me why I’m completely wrong on that. To me he just doesn’t carry himself as someone who cares whether he wins or loses. I don’t want that on my team.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Wayno

    co-sign TAD on the mental aspect of Stuckey’s game. He’s been pretty clutch too. The way he closed out that game against LA was sweet. Also, the fact that he added a reliable jump shot to his repertoire has opened his offensive game a TON. People aren’t sagging off of him any more so he can actually beat them off the dribble. He’s also improved with finishing at the rim.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Wayno

    Stuckey has been averaging 22.2 ppg since Feb 14. Firt time I’ve seen him score that consistently…love it. Also he’s shooting 36.5% on 3′s and 45% overall. Very respectable percentages.

  • surety

    Anyone who has ever said that Rose needs to take 30 shots a game because his teammates are not that good needs to be slapped in the face right now. Last night was an example of great team basketball and spirited play. Incidentally, when everyone on the team is involved in the game, they look like much better basketball players than they would be if one guy was taking every shot.

  • el_larsen

    we can also think that bk7 good spirit and “i want to learn” attitude has a pretty good effect on rodney

  • el_larsen

    that s why dwill is better than drose!the nets are REALLY a bad team

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    Heat are a joke.

  • LA Huey

    The Bulls are taking the regular season title. You gotta be happy if you’re a Bulls fan. They just bring their ‘A’ effort every game. Just shows the character of this team considering the circumstances of the game. I also found it amusing how Rose played this game under the guise of Lucas III.

  • el_larsen

    wow i ve just seen rondo ‘s behind the back pass after a spin for a ray allen 3pts !watch it if you can!
    NASTY

  • http://slamonline.com Nella

    @surety – give me a break dude. the bulls stepped up big time, and got a great win. but you’re kidding me if you think that game was the ‘norm’. Heat were coming off an overtime loss the night before, and the Bulls had a giant chip on their shoulder with Rose out. In a normal scenario, Heat win that game 80% of the time without him. The bulls also won’t shoot like 60% from 3 every night. I’m a bulls fan and last night was great, but don’t act like that’s how it would be every night if Derrick shot less.

  • T-Money

    everything is not melo’s fault but i was just reading howard beck’s article and the knicks are 33-42 since getting melo. how could anybody call him a superstar or a top 10 player? that record is completely unacceptable if you’re a difference-maker considering the talent on the team.

  • T-Money

    i really like what brewer was doing off the ball yesterday, he was the king of the flex cut in utah. i think it’s up to thibs to resist running everything through d-rose, it makes the team more dangerous. noah is also capable of getting to the rim with one dribble from the elbows. oh, and deng can’t even bother lebron on his turnaround jumper from the from the right block going toward the middle – that’s a problem for chicago.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Jahmai

    John Lucas III going at LeBron in the 4th was funny as hell, I was laughing the whole time. Bill Simmons would call him ‘the irriational confidence guy’. It was was so much fun. As for the Heat, this is pretty inexcusable, how do you lose to the Bulls, when Deng is hurting, Booz is a non-show, Jo is coming back from injury, no rip, NO DROSE!, with the Heat full strength, are you kidding me? LeBron going Dallas in the 4th and he can’t even stop 5-3 JLIII.

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    Haters on fumes.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wq0hMrfg7qg&feature=related MeloMan15

    people forget what Melo’s record was with the nuggets… didn’t miss a single playoff game every year he was there…brought them to the western finals… The Knicks organization has been playing 500 ball for years, plus they traded the whole damn team for Melo (which was stupid). The knicks woes can’t be squarly placed on melo

  • http://www.slamonline.com TADOne

    The Heat had an off game. Nothing more, nothing less. I still believe they are the favorites in the East. But let’s not act like the Bulls are chumps when Rose is not playing. I don’t have the stats but I believe they are like 10-2 when they play without him.

  • http://redoftoothandclaw.ca/ niQ

    Barbosa just got traded for a 2nd round pick. Sam Young is now a 76er.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    @ TAD: Actually, 6 is a lucky number in China. So maybe it’s a good sign, lol.

  • http://www.slamonline.com TADOne

    Barbosa got traded to who?

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-talk/2011 Diesel

    @t-money the Heat lost to the Bulls without Rose playing – That’s a problem for Miami.

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-talk/2011 Diesel

    barbosa got traded to the pacers for a second round pick. Sam Young going to Sixers.

  • http://redoftoothandclaw.ca/ niQ

    Indiana’s 2nd round pick. Barbosa is sort of like George Hill to me, but still the Pacers just got deeper. Raptors, I guess we’re all-in for tanking now.

  • T-Money

    jahmai: he hit ONE jumper on lebron lol, chill. but smallish point guards are always a problem for miami (nelso, barea…)

  • Otis

    What on earth has happened to Portland, though?

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    The Heat shouldn’t have lost to Chicago or Orlando. They played piss poor defense in both games, in my opinion.
    Could be a sign of a problem, or it could be a sign of minor slippage. It seems most folks are going with the former.

  • http://www.slamonline.com TADOne

    It was a minor slip. The Heat are still favorites in the East. However, Bosh needs to get his head out of his ass.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Wayno

    Deffinitely a minor slip…I have Miami winning it all this year.

  • http://slamonline.com datkid

    it was a minor slip. I don’t understand why orange is talking about teams that are a mess… and this means NOTHING diesel other than miami had an off game as teams do. you really think if the heat can beat you 5 straight times with your top flight mvp pg going OFF that they can’t beat you w/o him? please

  • http://slamonline.com datkid

    sometimes the bulls play/shoot ridiculously well for no reason. it happened last year in the playoffs. Rose barely had to score, he just stood there and shot 3 pointers. and it happened last night. Will it happen again or consistently? absolutely not.

  • http://nyill.wordpress.com Enigmatic

    “Minor slip. The Heat are destined to win the title and are CLEARLY superior to the Bulls in every way, shape or form.
    The Bulls should just wave the white flag when they meet again in the playoffs because CLEARLY they have no chance.”
    Sounds stupid, but that’s what some of y’all sound like…

  • http://bulls.com airs

    what happened here?!?!
    with a game like last nites bulls/heat, usually people would be in here actin all ignant and calling each others’ moms horrible things!!!
    you changed guys, you changed.

  • tgrace

    Check out this pass by Rondo last night

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tccSvlrsAUM

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    I lean towards minor slip, but I do sympathize with the view that a championship team should have taken the opportunity to crush both the Magic and Bulls.
    Then again, Dallas won the chip last year and for huge stretches of the season no one saw them as a championship caliber team.
    All I know is that I haven’t seen the smothering defense from Miami that they typically muster. And I think Wade gambles a tad too much on defense and doesn’t stay attached to his man like he should.

  • http://nyill.wordpress.com Enigmatic

    @Allen – Not sure I’d worry too much about Miami’s defense come playoff time.
    They’ll probably have their defense on a hundred, thousand, trillion by then.
    I loved their defense last year’s playoffs.

  • T-Money

    i really don’t care about wins and losses and head-to-head match ups in the regular season. there is zero correlation between matchups in the reg season and in the post season. think chicago last year and cleveland before that. chicago’s biggest strenght in the regular season is that they have 10 quality players and can sustain injuries and kill the other teams’ 2nd units. that’s irrelevant in the playoffs when teams go 6.5 deep.

  • Niio

    @datkid the bulls also beat the heat five straight times last year. Dummy

  • http://cechicagorilla@aol.com yada

    something no one ever seems to bring up about the heat is, they are very very small!! you can beat them with length and rebounds. last year even tho ilgauskis and dampier werent much else, atleast they were tall. and we all know by just the mere presence of legit 7 footers it changes the game.

  • T-Money

    yada -i think you meant to say something that everyone always bring up lol. that’s miami’s weakness, you can bumrush them on the offensive glass. eff loyalty i’d trade haslem, miller and joel for a decent center.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    MIA’s defense is overrated.
    They have to be one of the worst rebounding frontcourt in basketball(outside of LeBron).
    MIA as a team is overrated but that doesn’t mean they can not win the Chip.
    Bron refuses to take over during the 4th and continues to be submissive to Wade.
    Chicago is deeper this season (hard to believe) and Taj Gibson has to be one of the best PFs coming off the bench.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    I don’t know what to think about these monster games from Bynum resulting in narrowly beating teams in OT or 2OT. I would think if Kobe, Gasol, Bynum have good to great games they should beat anyone, but they all did and they barely beat the Grizz and NOLA in OT’s… Bynum with a 25,18,2 night. He is beasting this year and he isn’t even beasting like he can. I predicted something along the lines of a 18-20PPG, 11-13RPG, and 2+ blocks from Bynum for the year and that is exactly what he is giving the Lakers. I don’t know why no one wants Beasley that is a Laker fan. I know i’m willing to take more baggage with players than most, but dude is a #2 pick who isn’t a flop yet. He is phenomenally skilled and quite athletic. Get Super Cool is Purple and Gold!

  • http://www.reverbnation.com/tray24 T-Ray

    Don’t really give a damn about regular season meetings. I got the Bulls making out the East but can’t read into this win too much. Don’t expect Miami to be so horrible on defense in the playoffs and Bosh played poorly. We all know Bosh was a monster against Chicago last year.

  • T-Money

    jtaylor – don’t fall for depth, it doesn’t matter in the playoffs. how many guys do you need when your 3 best players will play between 42 and 45 minutes a night? when it’s winning time, it’ll be bron-wade-battier/jones-haslem-bosh vs rose-rip/korver-deng-gibson-noah. i think miami’s lineup is better.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Miami’s defense is not “over rated.” Unless you think they are better than Chicago at D. They are one of the best defensive teams in the L. Miami the team overrated?? WTH you talk bout Taylor?? They are thought to be favorites and they should be. Although I don’t see them winning.

  • T-Money

    “They are thought to be favorites and they should be. Although I don’t see them winning.” lakeshow – can you tell me what you think overrated means?

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    Lake, expect for a couple of spots (SF, at times SG) they are overrated. They struggle to keep teams off the offensive glass (part of defense), they struggle to keep quick PGs out the lane, they overextend their defense a lot by employing unnecessary traps and doubles and their bigs aren’t exactly the best at defending the rim. They are a good defensive team but not the juggernaut everyone thinks they are on D.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    T-Money I don’t know. Neither do you. That’s why I hate the term. Who is “rating” Miami too high? They should be considered favorites and they play great great defense. How can a team like that be “overrated” if they are what everyone thinks they are.
    - I agree Taylor, but the Heat are one of the best defending teams in the L. Goes without saying. They have their weaknesses, but you all are always telling my how Bosh is a real good defender. And Joel Anthony is only in the L for one reason. He plays solid Defense. Bron, Wade? I don’t need to tell you how good they are on D. Chalmers and Cole. As good a PG defending duo as there is out there. Battier? All time great defender. Miller? Above average if not very good. They have had a bad couple of games, but IMO they are in no way overrated unless you think they are the 96 Bulls.

  • LA Huey

    Heat’s weakness on D is closing out on the 3 pt line. I’m going to assume that will change in the playoffs. They’re an embarassment when it comes to rebounding. I don’t understand why Bosh doesn’t crash the offensive boards when he can get a running start from the elbows. They should have Wade try to get offensive boards too. Chalmers and Bron is good enough to stop fastbreaks.

  • T-Money

    lakeshow – i was teasing you. if someone is thought to be the favorite but you don’t see them winning, then they’re obviously overrated to you. i would also argue that chalmers and cole are not very good defensively, they gamble for steals but they have a hard time denying the middle to opposing point guards – jameer nelso was going wherever he wanted to the other day. / la huey – i remember chris bosh saying that miami doesn’t encourage its players to crash the offensive glass. the coaching staff values consistently getting back in transition over grabbing the occasional offensive board. that doesn’t excuse failing to clean up your defensive glass tho!!

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    They are overrated because if one of their big 3 has a bad game, they must likely will lose that series or game. Expect for last season’s ECF, that has been a real trend.
    Also, their lack of rebounding is going to come back and bite them in the a** one day and it must likely will be against the bulls in the PS. You can’t keep playing with fire and not get burnt.

  • LA Huey

    I guess that makes sense. Butler looked decent for the Bulls. I’d look for him to be a key on this roster after after summer league and full training camp.
    At this point, if the Heat don’t get anything significant from Mike Miller this postseason, they need to trade or amnesty him. JJ is ready to space the floor.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    T-Money, you’re right. Depth is that much of a factor come Postseason but you can not keep expecting Wade and Bron to carry that team night in and night out like they did all last season and this season against top competition. They are going to need Chamlers and Bosh to step up if they plan on making it back to the Finals and actually winning it.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    *isn’t*

  • T-Money

    absolutely. i’m expecting big things from chalmers in the playoffs. he’s a knucklehead sometimes and he is not as good as he thinks he is but he’s a gamer and is never afraid of the moment.

  • http://slamonline Brion

    Once again, James Jones makes most of his limited PT and drains both 3′s he attempts. needs more looks throughout the game. And yes Miami’s lack of true center is going to be their weakness is playoffs.

  • http://slamonline house

    Where the hell was boozer last night? Dude always disappears versus good opponents.

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-talk/2011 Diesel

    Nick Young to the Clippers. They just got back in the mix.

  • LA Huey

    house, would anyone believe you if they said the Bulls would be Miami without Rose, with John Lucas getting significant minutes, and Boozer being invisible? Underrated note from last night: Chicago is capable of beautiful ball movement.

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-talk/2011 Diesel

    @LA – Bulls always have great ball movement. I think they’re # in the league as far as assits to baskets ratio.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    T-Money quit being a tease.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    John Lucas III > Derrick Rose

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    Greg Munroe is who we thought Brook Lopez would be.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    You shall see the true power of Nick Young unleashed now. I guarantee it.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    ^lol

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    What “true power” is this AP? Man, I like Nick more than most on here, but you think he is a straight up stud vying for All Star votes or something… He helps them because they need a two that is not a PG. Not because Nick Young is the missing cog for the Clips championship hopes.

  • http://slamonline.com datkid

    @nioo and the heat have beat them 5 straight times dumb@ss. now hush

  • http://slamonline.com datkid

    I kinda agree with lakeshow here.. nick young is a dope iso scorer, but can he score within the offense and not take people out of their rhythm?

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    I much rather have Marshon Brooks than Nicky Young.

  • http://slamonline.com The Philosopher

    Nick Young.
    Agree with Allenp.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Philo, why do you agree with AP. What is Nick Young going to do that he hasn’t “shown”? We all know he can score and shoot. Duh. What else is he going to show us that is his “true power”? What is he going to do that he hasn’t been doing in DC? He’s going to score in LA just like he did in DC. Noting more nothing less.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Nothing*

  • http://www.slamonline.com TADOne

    If Nick Young’s true power is backing up Caron Butler, then yes we shall see it.

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    He will start

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    Nick Young is the 3rd best offensive player on the floor now. And the best is Chris f*cking Paul. Why in the world does anyone think he won’t thrive? He’s been killing for Washington for the last 2 weeks. Hell te spurs were DOUBLE TEAMING him on Monday.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    nbk…. your missing the point. We all know he’ll thrive. He thrived in DC. What is this “true power” that he is going to show us that I have heard about though? He is what he is. He score and shoots. He’s going to keep doing that. He’ll start because he can play the two. Caron Butler today is a better player, but he is their 3. Paul, Young, Butler, Griffin, Jordan. Young is going to show us nothing new. We know exactly who he will be for the Clips. A non-passing, rebounding, defending 2 guard. AP is acting like Young is going to be a Allstar. You think he’s an Allstar? He’s going to give them roughly 15 points and less than 2 assists and rebounds.

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    Oh no I don’t think he’s going to do anything but score. But I think he’s going to do it more then anyone expects. He gonna score 18+PPG for them and if he shoots 3′s at a good clip he is a big weapon. Other then that though, naw he ain’t gonna do sh*t

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    We cool then lol.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    I just liked the way that sounded. It is possible to overvalue and undervalue players. Nick Young is undervalued in my opinion because everybody believes he is the typical high volume shooter. I think he can be 20 log with the ability to get a bucket on almost anyone. I have been right and wrong before. We shall see. He is not a stat but he has a valuable skillets in the NBA. Every team needs what he brings.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    ^ Co-sign. Nick Young has mad skillets.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    I agree that he can score on almost anyone. So can JR smith and Beasley. He just brings nothing else to the table. Fortunately for the clippers they don’t need him to do anything but drop buckets. He’s a nice fit and they gave nothing for him so nice signing.

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