Monday, March 26th, 2012 at 8:35 am  |  99 responses

Post Up: Sunday Funday

Four overtimes in Atlanta, a possible Finals preview in OKC and the Grizz win in L.A.

by Abe Schwadron | @abe_squad

Wow. Big night. Let’s hit it.

Suns 108, Cavaliers 83

Marcin Gortat scored the first 10 points of the game all by himself, and the Suns led from start to finish in a drubbing of the Cavaliers. Phoenix led by as many as 28 and was buoyed by Gortat’s 22 points. The old vs. new point guard battle could be called a draw, since Kyrie Irving came up with a team-high 16 points to go with 6 rebounds and 4 assists, but the rookie also had 5 turnovers, while savvy vet Steve Nash dropped 13 dimes and needed to shoot just 2-2 from the field (4 points) to lead his team to a blowout win—oh, and he had just 1 turnover. The Cavs have lost 6 of their last 7, and Byron Scott flatly assessed his team after the latest loss with this nugget: “We’re not a very good team right now.”

Timberwolves 117, Nuggets 100

One game after putting up 51 points, Kevin Love poured in 30 and grabbed 21 rebounds—his third 30-20 game of the season and No. 7 for his career, which leads all active players (the rest of the NBA has two this season, total)—and the Wolves used a huge first-half run to build a big lead against Denver. The Nuggets found themselves down by 28 in the first half, thanks in part to a 39-9 run at one point. Luke Ridnour chipped in 25 points for Minnesota, which took home the W despite being outscored 64 to 38 on points in the paint and being outshot 51 percent to 46 percent. Denver, which was led by Kenneth Faried’s 17 points and Javale McGee’s 13×11 double-double, is now 2-6 in its last 8 road games.

Celtics 88, Wizards 76

With missing pieces on both sides, including Ray Allen (ankle), Mickael Pietrus (head) and Nene (back), second-year guard Avery Bradley scored a career-high 23 points as the Celtics beat down the Wizards. In the first quarter, Bradley scored 15 points—Washington had 12. The Wiz shot 35 percent from the field and made just 3 of 14 three-point attempts, while Boston never trailed and assisted on 24 of their 34 field goals. Kevin Garnett scored 21 points and while Rajon Rondo finished with more turnovers (6) than points (4), he ran the Celtics’ offense with ease even without Allen’s shooting, and he had 11 of those assists. Jordan Crawford led the Wizards in scoring with 20, but shot 8-18 from the floor. John Wall struggled with his shot, too, going 5-17 with 12 points and 9 assists.

Hawks 139, Jazz 133 (4OT)

You know what’s probably not fun on the third night of a back-to-back-to-back? Playing 4 overtimes. And yet the Hawks did just that, and eventually outlasted the Jazz for the epic win. It was the first 4-OT game in 15 years and ties the third-longest game in NBA history. Jazz coach Tyrone Corbin apparently didn’t care about that—he played all five of his starters 50+ minutes. The crazy box score is worth the click. Seven players on each side scored in double figures, with Joe Johnson’s 37 topping the list. Josh Smith added 22 points and 10 rebounds and Zaza Pachulia grabbed a career-high 20 rebounds to go with his 15 points as the Hawks won their fourth straight game. Al Jefferson (28 points, 17 rebounds) and Paul Millsap (25 and 13) both had big games for Utah before inevitably fouling out in the extended overtime periods. Perhaps the wildest part about this game’s result is that the Jazz had the final possession four straight times and yet couldn’t put the ball in the basket on any one of those occasions, dropping to 26-23 on the year.

Spurs 93, Sixers 76

Gregg Popovich is an evil genius. On the third night of a back-to-back-to-back, with Tim Duncan resting in street clothes, the Spurs whooped up on the Sixers—with a starting lineup of Parker-Blair-Leonard-Bonner-Green. Tony Parker scored 21 points, DeJuan Blair had 19 and San Antonio benefitted from 21 Philly turnovers. The Sixers made just 1 of 9 three-pointers and struggled to generate offense from anywhere on the court. Elton Brand’s 14 points were tops on the team, and Philly scored only 27 points in the entire second half, including a pitiful 11-point fourth quarter effort. Oh, and I found this bit from the AP recap of the game hilarious: The Spurs’ statisticians at the AT&T Center poked some fun at Duncan, listing his line in the official box score with a “DND — OLD.”

Thunder 103, Heat 87

The most popular NBA Finals pick finally has a reference point, as Oklahoma City took care of business on its home court in the first meeting with the Heat this season, riding 53 percent shooting and a near triple-double from Kevin Durant, who finished his night with 28 points, 9 rebounds and 8 assists. The Thunder had a season-high 13 steals and forced Miami into 21 turnovers, which led directly to 28 OKC points. On an off-night for Russ Westbrook (4-16, 13 points) Serge Ibaka and Kendrick Perkins provided the beef up front for the Thunder—Ibaka had 19 points on 8-10 shooting (and 10 boards) and Perkins scored a season-high 16. Miami’s Big 3 was headlined by Dwyane Wade’s 22 points, while Chris Bosh put up 18 points and LeBron James struggled his way to 17 points on 8-18 shooting to go with 7 assists and 4 turnovers. The Heat (35-12) pulled to within 8 midway through the fourth quarter before OKC made a final push, improving to 37-12 on the year.

Trail Blazers 90, Warriors 87

After a David Lee tip-in put the Warriors up 87-86 with 1:30 to play, LaMarcus Aldrige hit a turnaround 12-footer from the baseline with 40 seconds remaining to put Portland back in front, and Golden State’s offense sputtered on the game’s final two possessions. The Blazers—losers of 10 of 14 post-All-Star break—got the win behind 24 points and 7 assists from Raymond Felton and 18 points and 8 rebounds from Aldridge. Portland shot just 37 percent from the field (Jamal Crawford was 1-10 himself), but also had only 7 turnovers. David Lee racked up 16 points and 16 rebounds for GSW in the loss, and one night after rookie Klay Thompson dropped a career-high 31 points, a fellow rookie did the same. This time, it was Charles Jenkins, who scored 27 in a career-high 39 minutes—just his second career game in double figures.

Grizzlies 102, Lakers 96

The intrigue of a Gasol Bros. battle was quickly replaced with Laker drama, as L.A. fell victim to a revitalized Grizzlies team. Memphis snapped a 3-game losing streak on the last game of a four-game toad trip, handing the Lakers just their 4th loss at Staples Center despite 30 points from Andrew Bynum and Pau Gasol’s 16 and 14. Even with the Laker bigs going crazy, the Grizz scored 52 points in the paint to just 36 for Los Angeles. Seven players scored in double figures for Memphis, led by Rudy Gay (18 points) and OJ Mayo (16 off the bench). In the final period, Kobe Bryant (7-15 shooting, 18 points) went hero mode, but Memphis held tough. With 5:45 left in the fourth quarter and the Lakers trailing 93-79, Mike Brown did the unthinkable—he pulled Kobe off the floor. Bryant was, shall we say, not pleased. He re-entered with 1:51 left and the Lakers down 98-91 after a pair of Pau Gasol free throws. Sadly for Los Angeles fans, he made a minimal impact, scoring zero points from there on out. To say Kobe was frustrated would be putting it lightly. The Lakers are at Golden State next before hosting the Thunder on TNT Thursday night.

Line of the Night: It’s crazy that Kevin Love’s 30 points and 21 rebounds will get overlooked because it’s become routine for him. KLove has been putting in work this year—he’s averaging 26 and 14 a game.

Moment of the Night: Joe Johnson didn’t care that it was a school night. He wanted to hoop.

Dunks of the Night: Kendrick Perkins dunks, sticks foot in DWade’s face. Consider it a metaphor for the game as a whole, as the Thunder got a big win over the Heat in OKC. Also, somebody should probably guard Shannon Brown.

Tonight: Nine games in all, highlighted by Nuggets-Bulls, Heat-Pacers and CP3′s second go-round against his former Hornets. Enjoy.

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  • Heals

    I’m with ya nbk. I could already see ESPN and NBAtv starting the KD for MVP talking points yesterday…

  • http://Slamonline.com Datkid

    I’m with lakeshow. I think a healthy zbo can produce more and be more consistent than a healthy love. Plus he’s a slightly better defender

  • http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/26/business/media/for-martins-case-a-long-route-to-national-attention.html?_r=2&hp Allenp

    Those shooting numbers NBK posted were Iversonesque. That’s wild for a power forward. I always see the total points and rebounds, don’t typically check out the actual field goals attempted and made on Love.
    I would still take Gasol. That’s my personal preference. Bynum is stupid, he pouts, he’s injury prone and he’s a black hole.
    Gasol plays hard, does all the little things you need, rarely pouts and just seems like a great teammate. But, people can pick Bynum, I understand the selection.

  • http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/26/business/media/for-martins-case-a-long-route-to-national-attention.html?_r=2&hp Allenp

    ZBo has never done what Love is doing.
    Let’s keep it real. If he could average 25 and 15 he would have done it.
    The main reason he won’t average that is because he doesn’t take 5 three pointers a game, and the doesn’t go as hard as Love on the glass. He goes hard, but not that hard.
    But, he’s a better isolation scorer. He’s pretty horrible on defense. Watch him in the pick and roll, it’s sad. I like ZBo and last year I had him over Love. This year, I don’t think so. But, I would like Zbo on my team because he gets bucket in isolation on damn near anybody.

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    I Would not take Zach Randolph over Kevin Love unless the only thing my team is missing is a “go-to” guy

  • MookieBlaylock

    KD killed it last night. My favorite player in the league to watch.
    I still have LBJ as the MVP, but obviously will be happy with either guy getting it.

  • Ash

    Love is overrated. He’s a selfish rebounder, puts up points on a garbage team, and isn’t really decent on defense. He’s a stat stuffer.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    That’s a fine position Allen. I like Gasol in allot of ways more than Bynum. Not just personally, but game wise also. He can do allot of things Bynum can’t. Bynum is just so dominant when he is rolling it is hard to take anyone over him. He is more of a physical force than even Dwight because of his size. He is not smart though, so that negates allot of the good he does. Marc might even help you win more, but Bynum to me is the better player due to his dominance in the paint.
    -It’s hard to say if Zach is going to be a 18+,12 guy again or if his run of 20,10 stat days is over. Love is definitely better going forward though.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Slick Ric

    Kevin durant has never had a triple double before? Just goes to show how incomplete his game has been, he’s becoming more well-rounded though.

  • Myung

    what, if I’m thinking bigger, I think we should tank and get a lottery pick because either way, we’re not making it to the ECF. The fact is, we’ve played Miami and Chicago tough this year. I don’t think either of them will lose four games to us, BUT the flipside is, we’ve played some very impressive games vs. BOTH of them (and not just against CHI) and I don’t think the Hawks should be scared of either of them, even if we end up losing the series. Getting Horford back is a big key. I wonder if he’ll be ready by the postseason. I get what you’re saying, but you’re also assuming we make it past round 1. My scenario is strictly about making it out of round 1. If there’s one team we match up REALLY poorly against, it’s Philly. If you look at our record vs. them the past 2 or 3 years, they’ve really got our number (the same way ORL used to, before we started beating them pretty consistently the past year). I’d much rather take my chances vs. Orlando or Indiana, but the thing with Philly is, they’re pretty much locked into that 4 spot so if you end at 5, you’re getting Philly. Again, I get what you’re saying by saying you want to avoid Miami at all costs, but before we get carried away with Round 2 scenarios, we really need to, you know, make it out of the first round. I don’t think Philly is an amazing squad. I just think vs. Atlanta, they tend to look like world beaters.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    I would take a healthy Bynum just for what he provides defensively. On offense I would probably prefer Gasol because of his passing ability, but Bynum’s defense gives him the overall edge imo.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    Give me ZBo over KLove regardless of the team’s makeup/situation. There are only a handful of guys in the L that command double teams on the block and ZBo is at the top of that list. That’s moe valuable to me than anything love brings to the table.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    JTaylor, Since you don’t like three pointers I don’t expect you to appreciate the floor spacing someone like Love provides being just as valuable as a double team. Carry on though haha.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    Lake, you’re funny character. So you’re telling me that having your PF 30 feet away from the basket, shooting 3s is just as valuable as having a PF that commands double teams on the low block? Come on dun son, don’t make me laugh.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    And it’s not like Kevin Love plays on the perimeter. He is spacing the floor off of picks. Then his other 3pt attempts come from him trailing the play. It’s totally different then having like Kyle Korver or whoever

  • http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/26/business/media/for-martins-case-a-long-route-to-national-attention.html?_r=2&hp Allenp

    Kevin Love just plays pick and pop farther away from the basket than most fours. He’s not spotting up all game, and he still crashes the glass and he still shoots 8 free throws a game.
    The three pointer is a higher risk, but it’s also a higher reward. He’s shooting 40 percent. Tahts’ what knockdown shooters shoot.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    Are all those things more valuable than ZBo’s ability to command doubles and score at will on the block?
    Do the Grizz have the same success they had last season with Love instead of ZBo?

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Neither Kevin Love nor Zach Randolph make teams win. They put up great stats, in Love’s case great great stats. But they have proven they are just as likely to put up huge stats in a loss to the Hornets as they are to put up great stats in a win against the Heat. Throughout their careers they have had players who have a more obvious effect on their teams winning, despite them being the best players. I think that should say something. It does to me anyway.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    But I don’t think the Grizzlies would have been as potent with Love over Randolph last season, simply because Zach Randolph’s ability to score in isolation and when the game slows down is superior to Love.
    .
    If say we were talking about Chicago, I would rather have Love, no hesitation.

  • Heals

    It isn’t always the case, but KLo benefits greatly from the amount of mins he plays. Dirk can put monster #’s in just over 30mins, whereas KLo is gettin 40ish quite often…

  • ripslam

    Kevin Love is undoubtedly the best 4 in the league. I used to have my doubts, but it’s not even close anymore. LMA and Dirk are both great players in their own right, but Love is straight ridiculous.
    -
    Great win for the Thunder. For people saying that this game doesn’t mean anything, come on. It’s the two top contenders for MVP, going head-to-head. One played great, one played not so great. It’s not rocket science. KD is that dude.
    -
    FOUR OVERTIMES. That’s TWO regulation games. Lord. Joe Johnson played crazy, too.
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    Such a great night of basketball. This is why the lockout was a travesty.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Four overtimes is 20 minutes.

  • Ash

    Ripslam failed math

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    I never said ZBo turns teams into winners, I just said that his ability to dominate on the low block is much more valuable than Love’s 3pt shooting.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    No I don’t disagree with you, I was just saying that’s my observation of the two. I don’t think you could consider either of them “the best 4 in the league” until they are the catalyst to a team winning, for a whole season, and even a couple playoff games.

  • Paul H

    Love Is shooting 48% In March and Is now up to 45.5 on the season, along with 38 form 3 and 82 from the line. Dirk, widely touted the best shooting big man In the modern era, has a career average of 47.5. A few people mentioned that Love Is chucking up 19 shots a game for his 26 points, well between the 04-05 and 09-10 seasons Dirk never shot LESS than 18 a game and his best output was 26.6. Also whilst Love may have lacked a certain Efficiency at times this season I believe the fact that he gets to the line more than anyone not named Howard more than compensates. If he could maintain a 48/38/82 shooting line I would be very happy.

    And the guy Is still only 23. His growth over his first 4 seasons indicates a real work ethic and desire to get better.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Paul H, Take a bow.
    -Taylor, Who is more valuable/better Z-Bo or Dirk? Dirk plays around the elbow extended for most the game. But from your logic, Z-Bo is more valuable? Right? Do you think Z-Bo would’ve won the chip with the Mavs instead of Dirk? I don’t.
    -I think it’s BS to say these guys(Love, Z-Bo) don’t make you win. They are not as valuable as some to their teams, but I know for a fact the Timber Wolves are a much better team with Love than without him. Same with Z-Bo on the teams he’s played for.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    Lake, Dirk actually has a good post game (unlike your boy, KLove), is a superior mid-range shooter and adds more value to a team than Love.
    Also, Dirk is more valuable than ZBo because of all those things I pointed out and the fact he’s been the best player on one of the most consistent teams in NBA history for the past 10+ yrs.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    You think it’s BS, ok. Well judging from their careers, it isn’t. I mean Kevin Love’s career is a little too short for me to come to that conclusion about him (even though the Wolves still lose to teams they are more talented then), but over Randolph’s career that is blatantly true. Even look at Memphis last season compared to this one, last year they had a win % of 56. This year it’s 55. So i guess a 1% deviation. Either way, the guys are great offensive players who are absolutely horrible defensively. Their impact on their teams is minimal, especially if you are arguing they are the best at their position. (This year Memphis is 8 points worse with Randolph on the court, Minnesota is 7 points better with Love. Given how bad Minnesota really is, that is not a very big impact from “the best 4 in the league right now”)

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Dirk is a good defender. idk if any of you actually realize or even believe that, but he is. So not only is he the reason Dallas’ offense is as good as it is, but he isn’t a net negative on the other end of the court, like Randolph and Love are.

  • http://espn.go.com/nba/ Paul H

    I think Love’s post and mid game Is vastly underrated, and It’s not as If It didn’t take Dirk a solid 6-7 seasons to really develop those two aspects of his game into the deadly arsenal he has now. All I was trying to point out Is the similarity In the numbers. I wouldn’t go all out and claim Love as the all out best PF In the game, but only someone who A) Has not really watched the man on a regular basis B) Can stone wall blank the cold hard facts and stats or C) Just flat dislikes the guy would make the, quite frankly ludicrous, statement that he Is not top 3 right now.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    nbk, I actually think Dirk is an average-to-terrible defender and has always been. He lacks the foot speed, strength and reaction time needed to be a good defender. Don’t get me wrong, he’s a better defender than either Love or ZBo but he’s not a good defender.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    I no longer think that CB and LA are better than KLove given their recent struggles but I still have Dirk, PGasol and JSmith above him, therefore making him the 4th best PF.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    I just choked on my delicious late lunch from Ichi Ban Teriyaki. Whhhaaaaaat Taylor? LoL. You got Josh Smith as your 3rd best Power Forward? I mean I like the idea cause I like his game, but holy smokes he is not the 3rd best PF… Reasoning?

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    He’s not a bad defender. Despite his physical flaws. Atleast he isn’t in terms of how well he does against other players. Being a legit 7’0″ makes up for a lot of his problems.

  • http://espn.go.com/nba/ Paul H

    Josh Smith? Jesus mate. A man averaging 8 points, and 4 rebounds less, shooting a worse fg%, who cant hit a free throw to save his LIFE and has perennially underachieved on a team stuck in groundhog day Is better than K-Love. I LIKE Josh but very few players have consistently infuriated me by there inability to maximize there potential. K-Love Is essentially his antithesis. Josh is a better defender (tho I think his D stats are padded through gambling) and passer. If you had to have one of the two to win you a ball game you would be stone wall nuts to pick Josh over K-Love.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    DEFENSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    That’s all that needs to be said as to why I have JSmith above Love.
    Also, how many games and playoff series have Love’s teams won? Thank you, I rest my case.

  • http://www.slamonline.com TADOne

    How are you a “selfish rebounder”? Is that really a negative thing?

  • http://espn.go.com/nba/ Paul H

    Kevin Love was In a starting lineup with DARKO last year. He has not had the teamates. The Wolves are still only 2 1/2 games out of the west race and would have been at least a 6 or seven seed had Rubio not went down. Love has proven this season that he can preform well and hit big shots In big games. Mark my words he will tear It up when he finally gets to the dance. And Smiths D In no way counterbalances Love ‘s VAST superiority In other areas. No way.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    Anyone care to take a guess what 41-91 means? That’s the Wolves record ever since KLove became a full-fledged starter. That’s horrible for someone that’s supposed to be the best PF.
    We should really stop with all the praising of teams like the Wolves and Knicks that can’t even break the .500 threshold.

  • http://espn.go.com/nba/ Paul H

    It’s only this year that Love has been In the conversation and the first year he has had decent teammates. What would your opinion have been had the Wolves finished say 4 games above .500 and well In the thick of the West playoffs (which would have been quite comfortable had they kept up the 18-13 pace they had with Rubio In the starting lineup). NOBODY does It without decent teammates. You think any of the other top PF’s would have done better with that abysmal team Love had the last 3 seasons? The T-wolves are NOT the Knicks.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Wow, we got Taylor with the “Kobe has more rings so he’s better than LeBron today” argument for why Love isn’t a top 3 PF.
    -Taylor tell me who the 2nd and 3rd best player on the T-Wolves was during that time. Go ahead, I wanna hear which All Stars he had to help him win those measly 41 games.
    Taylor you think that Smiths D is so good, that he is overall better than Kevin Love? The guy who hit 5, 3 pointers in a row and had 51 points a couple nights ago. The guy who has more 30,20 games than the rest of the NBA combined? The All Star who won the 3 point shoot out and is the best rebounder per size (maybe overall) in the L? Smith is better than him?… Wow, you really hate 3 pointers don’t you? lol…

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    When cats like ZBo (in Por) and Bosh (in TOR) were putting up monster numbers on bad teams, everyone was giving them the “he puts up numbers on bad teams” routine and never heaped on them the kind of praises and “best PF” talk they are currently heaping on Love.

  • http://espn.go.com/nba/ Paul H

    Boshs best season was 24 and 10.7, those numbers pale In comparison to the numbers Love has been putting up this season. And again the T-wolves would have made the playoffs and been a difficult out had Rubio not went down IMO. Next season this will barely be a debate.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    No one put up the numbers Love puts up Taylor. Like few men in history have. Those are the kinds of numbers Love puts up. I agree that you need to prove you can win, but you need to prove you can win with talent not with nobody. We can’t expect LeBron James like effect on teams in everybody.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    Both of y’all have valid points but when I watch the Wolves play, Love just doesn’t have the kind of impact on a game the way the supposed best player at his position should.

  • http://sdjfklfl.com Jukai

    Sorry, right now I’m positive Love has played like the best power forward in the game this season.
    I think Dirk and Pau are ‘better’ but they haven’t played like it.
    Bosh isn’t in a position to play big behind Lebron and Wade.
    There is literally no argument to pick ZBo (slightly better scorer, worse rebounder, worse passer, actually is just as bad defensively).
    I used to think Aldridge was better but I don’t agree anymore. Love is a better scorer.

  • http://Roosterteeth.com Caboose

    The argument comes down to something subjective: impact. There are some players whose impact on a game stretches well beyond the box score (Chris Paul, Tim Duncan, Jason Terry, Andre Iguodala, etc) and some whose numbers look nicer than what they actually brought to the court (Kevin Martin, Tyreke Evans, Carlos Boozer, Andrea Bargnani, etc). Having watched a good chuck of Wolves games this year, Love falls closer to that second camp than the first one. That’s not to say that he doesn’t impact the game more than, say, Jason Terry (he does), it’s that his contributions are less than the numbers say. I have no problem with KLove in the top 3 PF, but I can’t instantly place him at the apex of the power forward pedestal.

  • Justin G.

    Caboose got to it before I could. The impact the player has on a game is just as important as the stats. Chris Bosh’s numbers may supposedly pale in comparison but the impact he had on those Raptors teams was obvious. Would Love have been able to change a game the way Bosh did with those horrible Raptors teams? Highly doubtful. I wish the Heat would actually go to Bosh more, especially when either Wade or Lebron are struggling. He really is the X factor on that team and the reasons why I have him over Love is simply defense and impact. Too much emphasis is being put on offensive numbers and not all around game

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