Friday, March 9th, 2012 at 10:33 am  |  29 responses

Report: Magic Seek Carmelo-Like Trade for Dwight Howard

The New York Knicks elected to gut their team when they traded for Carmelo Anthony last season, and the Orlando Magic hope another team will do the same should they decide to part ways with Dwight Howard. From CBS Sports: “Magic executives have continued to tell teams this week they do not intend to trade Dwight Howard, but several teams came away from the conversations with a clear picture of what the club wants if it changes course: a replica of the deal Denver pulled off last February for Carmelo Anthony, multiple league sources [said.] If the Magic decide to trade Howard, they have ‘not closed any doors’ on potential suitors, said a person familiar with the organization’s strategy. Teams that are on and off Howard’s list of preferred destinations – the Nets, Mavericks and Lakers – will be considered, and may the highest bidder win, sources said. What Orlando is seeking if it makes a deal for the All-Star center is a package similar to what the Nuggets received for Anthony at the 2011 trade deadline: multiple good, young players and draft picks. Orlando executives view the Denver model as a middle ground between blowing up a contender and starting over with draft picks and reaching for veteran All-Stars whose contracts ultimately could hinder the recovery from a Howard trade. [...] Howard, 26, can opt out of his $19.5 million contract after the season and become an unrestricted free agent. His formal trade request through agent Dan Fegan of Lagadere Unlimited remains on the table and he has not given the Magic any commitment to opt in and/or re-sign after the season. [...] For a variety of reasons, a similar haul isn’t realistic for Howard, despite the fact that he’s a far more valuable star than Anthony. The Knicks also got former All-Star Chauncey Billups in the deal, and the Nuggets were able to parlay interest from the Knicks, Nets and other teams Anthony had no intention of extending his contract with into a bidding war that drove the price for him through the roof. If a player is heading out of Orlando with Howard, it is likely to be Hedo Turkoglu. Unlike Billups – a productive veteran leader with one year left on his contract – Turkuglo will be a liability in the deal due to his declining skills and the $23.4 million he is owed over the next two seasons. Nonetheless, the revelation that Orlando wants similar assets as those Denver received for Anthony moved the needle on the Howard saga with only a week to go before the March 15 trade deadline. If the Magic decide not to trade Howard by next Thursday, they face the prospect of losing him as a free agent and receiving no assets in return.”

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  • slamfan4life

    the trade from CHI would do this….Noah+Deng+Future Picks….cmon ORLANDO

  • http://www.slamonline.com spit hot fiyah

    i say hold on to him and see if he will really take less money else where. any deal they get will make them mediocre at best, if he leaves in the summer at least they get some cap space and can start from scratch

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    SLAM, the GOAT of misleading titles.

  • http://redoftoothandclaw.ca/ niQ

    @Teddy, what’s wrong with the title? They want a trade like what Denver got for Melo…

  • ripslam

    That was officially one of the worst blockbuster trades of all time. NYK got worse, and Denver vaulted up the standings.


    ripslam, you got to be kidding me.

  • AdamD

    To be fair orange, it is pretty much there to see in the standings thus far this year. Denver 7 games above in the standings despite being in the tougher (IMO) conference, both teams have had their ‘star’ players out for a period. Should New York get some proper depth and consistency then the trade will look a lot better, thus far, in my opinion, it’s been pretty disastrous.

  • ripslam

    I kid you not. Denver is 40-24 since the trade, New York is 32-35. Denver also currently has a higher seed in a tougher conference, so there’s that.

  • http://www.nesn.com/2012/02/kobe-bryant-says-hes-better-than-michael-jordan-second-to-wilt-chamberlain-as-best-nba-player-ever-v.html shutup

    @ripslam, your not taking in to account that denver was competing for top spot in the west before the trade, and NYK were rebuilding, and they pratically gutted their team to get the trade done. and there record is more reflective of the coach in NYC than anything else. If Phil comes outta retirement and takes that job watch, if tom no-neck thibodeau or even coffee cake popovich had that job it would be a completely different result.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Dagger

    shutup: really? I mean, really? New York’s record since the trade is inflated if anything because of Lin’s dominance while Melo was injured. When the Melo trade went down New York was hovering around .500, and they’ve played well below .500 ever since. Meanwhile, Denver’s record is, if anything, deflated because of their many injuries this year. When healthy the Nuggets are a borderline elite team. So you tell me: is it worth it to give up most of your depth and some talented young players for a ball-stopping “superstar” who can’t be bothered to play defence, can’t pass and scores inefficiently? Sure, there are issues up and down the roster, and that includes coaching. But let’s be honest: Melo was never a good fit in New York, D’antoni didn’t want him, and yeah, D’antoni has a pretty good record when it comes to managing offenses.

  • ripslam

    Shutup: That’s what I’m saying, the Knicks shipped out 4 starters and quality bench players for basically just Melo (seeing as they decided to cut Chauncey Billups loose after two half-seasons). The Amar’e/Ray Felton/Chandler Knicks were actually performing pretty well prior to the trade.


    Some people always have an axe to grind. lol Pathetic! lol


    ripslam do you know who Mike Rice is? He can be a real douchebag! Can’t stand him, but I never hit mute. Ha!

  • ripslam

    Wikipedia tells me that Mike Rice is a color commentator for the Portland Trail Blazers. Alright then.

  • http://www.nesn.com/2012/02/kobe-bryant-says-hes-better-than-michael-jordan-second-to-wilt-chamberlain-as-best-nba-player-ever-v.html shutup

    The Knicks werent going anywhere with that team pre-trade, Denver had a solid squad without melo, and george Karl is a way better coach then D’antoni, and easy with the Lin’s dominance thing, they won a handful of games because of his emergence, plain and simple the knicks team is under-performing and have been since he became coach. One example is why does every high pick and roll have to include tyson chandler? Amare thrives in that play set. If anyone isnt a good fit for NYC its Dantoni, without Nash to make him look like a genius that offense really doesnt work. On another note who is the best shooter of all-time in the NBA? In a recent game some announcer suggested it was Nash, and looking at his shot %s; I gotta say they make a compelling case .

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    @ niQ: Maybe I’m the only one, but a Carmelo-like trade sounded to me as if they were going to trade for Carmelo Anthony or someone similar to him… lol.

  • http://www.nba.com JB

    trade melo and harrellson for howard.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Dagger

    Underperforming? I didn’t hear a whisper about the Knicks underperforming from the time Amare arrived until the time the Melo trade happened. In fact, Amare was a legit MVP candidate until that point, and Felton looked like a really good point. And oh: do you really think that the guy who coached Jordan and Kobe in their primes is going to risk his sterling reputation by entering the New York media meatgrinder to coach . . . Carmelo? Come on. As for Pops or Thibodeau coming to the rescue . . . good luck. Unless you want to lure someone like Sam Mitchell over to coach after firing D’Antoni I’d say forget about switching coaches any time soon. The sad reality for Knicks fans is that the team is terribly constructed. Sure there’s talent, but the top players are offensive black holes who can’t play defence. A D’Antoni team can obviously live with minimal defence, but poor ball movement? Forget about it. Melo is the biggest offender and (still) the best player, so it makes sense to point the finger (in part) at him.

  • MookieBlaylock

    the knicks stink, the nuggets dont. Orange knows if he could trade rosters he would. I appreciate your passion but be real,

  • joe

    amare cant play with chandler. amare has always been the 5 so he can pick and roll, chandler is basically the same player with better defense.

  • MVP17

    I Think knicks should trade amere for Blake Griffin or Dwight but not Carmelo Anthony because hes mostly the center piece of this team and probably one of the top ten players in the league to play with so i dont think the knicks should be thinking trading Carmelo Anthony. but however i do think they should get a star type player unlike Carmelo And Amere So i think Trading Amere is the best Option for the knicks team and not Carmelo and think of it for Example Westbrook D-Will Kevin love Steve Nash Tony parker Big men Lamarcus Aldridge and Josh smith are good trade scenarios for a Possible Knick Trade.

  • Justin G.

    @MVP…Do you really think the Clippers would trade Blake Griffin for Amare? Dwight for Amare is even more ridiculous. Westbrook? My God man, where do you come up with this? And Mookie, asking Orange to be real about his Knicks is like asking Kobe to make the extra pass. Not possible

  • JML-G

    Knicks would be way better if they traded Melo & Chandler for Howard.. imagine Dwight & Amare duet – goddamn…

  • MookieBlaylock

    “Kobe aint never met a shot, or a groupie he didnt mind takin”

    Vanessa is laughin to the bank,

  • fizzbucket

    Not a single team that MVP17 listed would trade said players for Amar’e. Son is pushing thirty with knee problems, and doesn’t play a lick of D.

  • ClydeSays

    Dwight should just play out the season, however if works out. Better to pick your spot in the offseason than force a trade now.

  • Sylvio Mac

    Orlando is reaching. They won’t get that type of deal this year because a lot of teams already have solid rosters, and those that need to “blow things up” don’t have the players that are worth including in a trade for Dwight. Orlando should just suck it up and let D12 walk, then rebuild using the cap room that is freed up.

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    Would Robert Starving Sarver move EVERYONE bar Nash to bring Dwight in? The SUNS could offer:
    S. Brown
    Plus draft picks..
    (ESPN trade machine says it works)
    * The reality is though, that ORLANDO would probably want, Morris and/or Dudley and may not necessarily want Gortat…? He has become a great starting centre though in the league.

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    Mind you, on the trade machine… getting Dwight only increases the PHX wins by 7…. getting Stuckey and Jerebko for example increase the projected wins by 4. Just another example that Dwight is really over hyped beyond compare….. otherwise he’d be winning big and staying put.