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Wednesday, March 14th, 2012 at 9:50 am  |  91 responses

Tracy McGrady Believes He’s a Hall of Famer


The artist formely known as T-Mac thinks that he should be elected into the Hall of Fame once he hangs up his sneakers. Per Fox Sports: “A few years ago, McGrady looked bound to be a lock for the Hall of Fame. He had two scoring titles on his resume and seven straight All-Star appearances, all during seasons in which he averaged 24 or more points. But McGrady, 32, has been slipping dramatically the past several years, primarily because of injuries, and it might seriously damage his Hall hopes. During the past three seasons, he has averaged 7.5 points as a role player, including a mere 5.7 this year for Atlanta. For the first time in nine years, McGrady’s career scoring average dropped below 20. He’s now at 19.9. ‘I didn’t know that,’the swingman said of the baseball equivalent of a career batting average falling under .300. ‘I look back on it and still consider myself a 20-point-average person.’ Despite his legacy being tarnished as he plays out the string, McGrady also considers himself a Hall of Famer when all is said and done. ‘If we’re going by the numbers, I think they’re Hall of Fame numbers,’ said the 15-year veteran. ‘You total (two scoring titles) up along with my points, my playoff average (28.5 in 38 career games), so, yeah, I think I have the credentials.’”

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  • Charles

    Not happening T-Mac…

  • Fat Lever

    “It feels so good to finally get into the HOF.” Stop me if you’ve heard something similar to this from McGrady before.

  • FnF

    Maybe if he was a meaningful bench player on playoffs teams after the injuries, fine he’d have a shot at the HOF. If he didn’t have a reputation for being lazy, he’d have an even better chance. Due to the politics and powers that be, I don’t think he makes it in. Tough break kid.

  • mike

    if he d gotten past the first round then he d be more credible . the hall tends to be pretty selective and rewards playoff suceess more than indiviual success. look at someone like reggie miller or ray allen- who will probably amke it- but never put up monster numbers. that being said- i wonder about someone like alonzo mourning, grant hill, penny hardaway. esp the last two- thouyght hey had disapointing careers- they left huge impressions for as long as they did play. i think t-mac might make it- but not for another 20 years or so, sort of like a bernard king- who may make it late, or a sidney moncrief.

  • http://www.offthebackboard.wordpress.com OTB

    He never made it out of the first round. Never won MVP. Never did anything consistently enough. I watched TMac in Toronto and Orlando. If he had continued his pace from when he was on the Magic? He might be considered. But his Rockets years were horrible, and he, again, did not make it past the first round. No way.

  • billy jean

    NOT HAPPENING TEE BAG (Tmac)

  • http://www.slamonline.com Dagger

    OTB: seriously? He MIGHT be considered had he considered his Orlando pace? He was putting up insane numbers and he was widely considered better than Kobe at that point – yeah, I’d say he would have made the HOF. As for his Rockets years being horrible: what player were you watching? He was still one of the best players in the league at that point.

  • http://nba.com GP23

    The greatest thing he ever did was scoring those 13 points in 33 seconds or something against the Spurs. That was pretty remarkable, but that’s about it..

  • J.C.

    Haha T-Mac don’t bring up your playoff averages dude… Make it out of the first round before you do that…
    Personally I love this dude though because I grew up watching him do his thing and I’d be really happy to see him succeed again and make it into the HOF. Being realistic though, I wouldn’t feel jaded if he doesn’t make it because one needs to hold a HOF player to a certain standard and it’s not worth cheapening that. I’d be happy if T-Mac was simply remembered among basketball fans as an amazing talent. Regardless of whether he lived up to his potential or not, at least for a few seasons he was one of the deadliest dudes to do it out there.

  • hillbilly

    T-Mac in the HOF? In Bizarro World, maybe.

  • http://www.slamonline.com spit hot fiyah

    gp23 c’mon now he did more than that. but that 33 in 13 was epic, think i saw that live too, it was insane when it happened

  • LA Huey

    Fat Lever with the game winner.
    Honestly, his last few years has muddied my view of him so bad I forget how great he was from the early to mid-00s

  • http://www.slamonline.com Nick Tha Quick

    *In Borat voice* “Not so much..”

  • http://www.slamonline.com Wayno

    nah…

  • Bobbito

    T-Mac it was kind of a shot in the dark when you were a star, now it’s barely a possibility. Even though you put up numbers in the playoffs, you still havn’t won a series, or even rivaled another star. If he does it won’t be first ballot, or anything close. He’ll be waiting close to 10 years or until they have a less than stellar class. Which ever comes first.

  • http://slamonline.com datkid

    maybe. he was a role player who elevated himself to insane/hall of fame levels in orlando and houston. The injuries aren’t his fault. Why should they count against him in a bid for the Hall? Is a he a first ballot guy? no. Would I be ok w/ him being considered? sure.

  • burnt_chicken

    Fat Lever for the win!

  • abaci

    No way he makes it. good one fat lever. i agree with JC, the playoffs are not your strong point T-mac, don’t bring them up. Just like your second cousin Vince Carter you had lots of talent but no heart.

  • Mike

    VC is getting in before this guy

  • angus

    go back some years guys, he was the best all around player in the L! he schooled kobe, better numbers better talent, size athleticism, same with vince. Wish these guys coulda played out their careers as ”the man” on their team.

  • abaci

    You get into the HOF with production not potential

  • Top$helf

    Alot more natural talent than Kobe if only he woulda had his heart and work ethic I loved him in Orlando disliked him when he came to Houston prolly cause I got to see him play more or cause the Rockets gave up Stevie and Cat to get him

  • http://www.slamonline.com Slick Ric

    Maybe, he is one of the greatest scorers, ever.

  • dazzy

    He might have had more natural offensive talent than Kobe, but he had a fraction of Kobe’s work ethic. Remember when the Magic were up 3-1 on the eventual champion Pistons? That was the closest he got to sniffing the second round. Sorry TMac, but talent and potential aren’t as important as accomplishment. HOFer he is not.

  • LA Huey

    I don’t get the questioning about his heart. The work ethic criticisms are valid though.

  • Richiev

    In the end, I don’t think, “Hall of fame’ers” have to tell people they deserve the hall of fame. I think people already know.

  • robb

    ^^^^
    More natural talent than Kobe and more athletic but lazy as hell, and I’m with abaci, potential means nothing. @angus he never was the best all around player in the league c’mon.

  • bike

    Could have been. Injuries and inability to play with a hangnail pretty much killed it for him.

  • http://www.reverbnation.com/tray24 T-Ray

    Technically he did make it out the first round in Houston but he was injured. Still considered on the roster so he has once.

  • Omar

    Vince > T-Mac
    I don’t think T-Mac gets in because he’s not good enough.

  • http://www.fullc0urtpress.com KHOLIDAY

    Sorry Mac, not gon happen homie!

  • really

    I know Tmac didnt have the “heart” like kobe or his work ethic but the only reason he is not getting to the HOF is because his injuries took that chance away.

    TMAC BEST PLAYOFF NUMBERS
    33.8PPG 8.3APG 6.5RPG 0.415FG%

    Kobes Best Playoff Numbers
    32.1PPG 5.2APG 5.1RPG 0.432FG%
    While playing with Shaq who averaged
    27PPG 3.7APG 14.8RPG 0.535FG%

  • http://slamonline.com datkid

    so nobody but me sees T-mac’s injuries as completely out of his control? oh ok. He has enough awesome seasons to be considered for it IMO

  • Richiev

    1 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 38,387
    2 Karl Malone 36,928
    3 Michael Jordan 32,292
    4 Wilt Chamberlain 31,419
    5 KOBE BRYANT 29,082
    6 Shaquille O’Neal 28,596
    7 Moses Malone 27,409
    8 Elvin Hayes 27,313
    9 Hakeem Olajuwon 26,946
    10 Oscar Robertson 26,710
    11 Dominique Wilkins 26,668
    12 John Havlicek 26,395
    13 Alex English 25,613
    14 Reggie Miller 25,279
    15 Jerry West 25,192
    16 Patrick Ewing 24,815
    17 Allen Iverson 24,368
    18 KEVIN GARNETT 23,889
    19 Charles Barkley 23,757
    20 DIRK NOWITZKI 23,598
    21 Robert Parish 23,334
    22 Adrian Dantley 23,177
    23 Elgin Baylor 23,149
    24 RAY ALLEN 22,819
    25 TIM DUNCAN 22,207

  • kablamo

    The only time u made it to the second round is wen u were injured no HOF for u sir…

  • http://slamonline.com Kieran

    Oh T-Mac you have no chance.

    HOF talent but certainly not a HOF career

  • Tony

    T-Mac couldn’t get a team out of the 2nd round of the playoffs and he thinks he’s a HOF’er??

    You will be remembered as a scorer and that is all. Thanks for the memories. Not HOF bound.

  • FinDogg

    To bad that playoff average NEVER included a playoff series win. Yes, that is correct, T-Mac has never been out of the first round of the playoffs.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    I wish :(

  • http://slamonline.com tealish

    No one says you have to win titles. But you have to get out of the first round. You just have to, if we want to talk HOF.

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    Can I kick it?

  • Richiev

    If you are trying to get in the HOF based solely on your ability to score, then you have to be one of the greatest scorers of all time. It makes it a much tougher argument, when Tracy McGrady isn’t even one of the 25 best scorers of all time. Can he make it? Maybe, but it’ll be a tough vote.

  • MikeC.

    @datkid – sure, injuries are out of his control to a degree. Freak injuries can happen to any player at any time. Heck, Jordan sliced himself on a cigar cutter and missed a chunk of training camp one year. I don’t feel McGrady is a HOF candidate. He had a couple great seasons, but he didn’t sustain that excellence over a long enough timeframe for me to accept his credentials. If we’re considering McGrady for HOF, it cheapens the Hall. I feel there are some players in the Hall that shouldn’t be there. Bill Simmons (I know, I know, random hate for Simmons) had a great idea to revamp the Hall. Make it a multi-level Hall. Top floor is guys like Jordan, Russell, Wilt, Shaq, Kareem, etc. Guys that put up legendary statistics and multiple championships. Next floor is for guys that were really really damn good and won or guys that were individually great but didn’t win a ring and you just can’t quite put them at the top: Hakeem, Stockton to Malone, Sir Charles, Drexler, etc. Floor three is for the next level guys like Ewing, Mitch Richmond, Reggie Miller, etc. Somewhere in the next levels you get the guys like Robert Horry who won all over the place and contributed significantly, but wasn’t individually great. It’s a great idea and allows for more inclusion, but also distinct levels of definition. I still don’t think McGrady makes this version of the Hall either. Just my opinion. Dude was great for a couple years, good for a few more, and that was that. No legendary playoff performances, no international success, no NCAA run (not his fault he was good enough to go pro, but that’s part of it too). In 10 years, will McGrady even be brought up in the “who was the best swingman of the 2000′s” conversation? That wouldn’t happen to a surefire HOF-er.

  • MikeC.

    @ orange – yes you can.

  • AQWORD

    T-Bag couldnt step to the h.o.F. even if he had a Bron type season for the rest of his career. Book it like Seed on your chin

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    MikeC we just had a tribe called quest moment.

  • Salty

    Datkid: Of course the injuries were out of his control but it doesn’t change anything. You have to have a long, productive career….unless you’re Bill Walton.

  • MikeC.

    @Salty- Bill got in on the strength of his UCLA days more than his pro career.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    Wasn’t Mac the same cat that predicted a win in the 1st round against DET only to lose the next 2-3 games and be bounced out? Sure, those are HOF credentials.

  • SiMoney

    The HOF is a joke! With that said, he might just make it in smh…

  • Yesse

    Maybe after many many years when they don’t find enough candidates, but for the next 10 years i doubt it.

    Usually HOF members have atleast one ring or an MVP.

  • http://stapledesign.com Spaceship Jay

    Oohhhh.. That’s tough to be throwing out there Mac.

  • MUBWAR

    Reggie Miller was struggling to go to the HOF before this season tmac, what makes you think you have a shot?

  • http://www.sidelinecritiques.wordpress.com/ Jon R

    I love T-Mac and he’s been my favorite player since the early 2000′s but it looks like him and Penny will both be on the outside looking in wondering “what if” because neither one is making it into the HoF.

  • Howard K

    This article is totally one-sided, guys please look at other sources before posting such riduclous statements .

    as said, from another article on another website

    “If McGrady does stick around, he’s unconcerned about dropping numbers hurting his Hall hopes.

    “I didn’t play just to get into the Hall of Fame,’’ he said. “That’s not what I really played for. So, again, I think the numbers speak for itself on what I’ve accomplished in this league. And, if they’re not good enough, so be it.’’”

    He truly does not care if he is not in the HOF, He plays to WIN.

  • http://slamonline slams chuck barkley

    Give mac shaq, fish, horry, fox, and phil jackson. Give kobe drew gooden and pat garrity. What happens?

  • The Truth

    T-Mac, you was good until the whole Rocket career ended! You was NICE in Orlando but dude, lets keep it real.

  • McWill

    No disrespect to TMac but if my favorite Penny Hardaway isn’t going to the HOF then Tmac surely doesn’t make it…. Penny imo was the greatest to wear the Orlando #1 jersey, better overall numbers but unfortunately injuries killed a future HOF career in the making….but of course this is just my opinion

  • ClydeSays

    He was too inconsistent, too many injuries. He came into the League with scoliosis (curved spine), so the odds were he was always going to have back issues & he did. He sulked his way out of Toronto, then Orlando then crumbled under pressure in Houston.

    He was talented & had a ton of potential. But then you could have a hundred other dudes lined up on ‘what could have been’ ballots…

  • Hart26

    T-Mac you are one of my favorite players of all time, but really? NO WAY YOU A HALL OF FAMER. Get past the 1st round my man

  • Ballgolfer

    I believed I can play in NBA…..

  • trueballer4life

    50/50 he might make the hall of fame,2 scoring titles 7 all stars not bad considering he got hurt midway thru his career..

  • trueballer4life

    t-mac and vince carter should’e stayed together back in toronto days they would’ve won it all!…… the raptors were hot when those 2 were together!

  • http://theurbangriot.com The NUPE

    T-Mac had the talent to be in the HOF prior to his injuries. At one point in time you could argue who was better between him and Kobe, so I think he has a shot at making the HOF – not a very good one, but still a better chance than your ‘typical’ player. Basketball is a team game so I don’t think the fact that he never made it out of the first round of the playoffs has anything to do with his HOF potential. There are many non HOF’ers who have multiple championship rings, so I really don’t think the ‘team’ accomplishment thing should matter to much for individual recognition such as the HOF.

  • http://Www.achtamsterdam.nl Phil

    Please don’t compare t- mac with penny. I like t mac, but penny….he was something else man.

  • Simon Fuller

    I think if he gets to 20,000 points, he’s got to be a reasonable chance. There wouldn’t be many who have got to 20k and aren’t in the hall of fame. It will probably take hime 2-3 more seasons after this one, if he sticks around that long.

  • https://twitter.com/#!/CrimsonFlash13 Andrew

    MAYBE! TMAC WAS AMAZING! dont count him out, itis a possible!!!

  • horus87

    if he reaches 20000 points he will be

  • jake

    Wow slam readers. You guys are really off on this one. T-MAC will be in the HOF. He has the numbers, the all star appearances, and the memories. His success along with kobe and kg continued the trend of young ballers like monta, d12, and jsmoove skipping the college game. China came to the NBA for Yao, but stayed for T-MAC. And c’mon if Andy Phillip made it lol. So slam readers, do u think Grant Hill makes the hof????

  • What

    @ Jake, U right. these ppl must be 10 years old. tmac was oopin to himself every other game. Grant hill will def b in

  • DMC14

    No.

  • DMC14

    T-mac did’t even get close to a title. and grant hill only if you get in for being a nice guy. and i’m not a hater i have mad respect for both of these players (i’ve still got there rookie cards in a shoebox some where).

  • Jibreel

    So does Stephon Marbury, and Steve Francis, and Antoine Walker, and….

  • roybot

    If Penny’s not going in, T-Mac sure won’t

  • http://slamonline.com The Black Rick Kamla

    I believe he’s one of the most talented basketball players to ever play the game

  • SG2

    @really:

    It’s easier to have better numbers when you are only playing ONE series for the entire playoffs. Here’s some of Kobe’s playoffs SERIES averages:

    2001 2nd Round Playoffs Kobe Bryant vs Sacramento Kings
    35.0 ppg 9.0 rpg 4.3 apg 47%fg 20%3P 86%FT

    2001 3rd Round Playoffs Kobe Bryant vs San Antonio Spurs
    33.3 ppg 7.0 rpg 7.0 apg 51%fg 36%3P 77%FT

    2008 2nd Round Playoffs Kobe Bryant vs Utah Jazz
    33.2 ppg 7.0 rpg 7.2 apg 49%fg 21%3P 83%FT

    2009 3rd Round Playoffs Kobe Bryant vs Denver Nuggets
    34.0 ppg 5.8 rpg 5.8 apg 48%fg 34%3P 93%FT

    2010 3rd Round Playoffs Kobe Bryant vs Phoenix Suns
    33.7ppg 7.2 rpg 8.3 apg 52%fg 43%3P 88%FT

    I feel dirty comparing T-Mac to Kobe… it’s not 2002 anymore.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    To figure this out, ask yourselves, is Derrick Coleman a HOF player? The answer becomes pretty clear, pretty quick. For all McGrady did, his only achievement is, he led the league in scoring. And only what, twice? There are plenty of other guys who deserve it that aren’t in. *Cough* Kevin Johnson…..errr and many many others

  • Mike From Spain

    When a player like T-Mac gets hurt it is heartbreaking. But it seems to happen to a certain type of player. Flashy, quick, athletic scorers. Perhaps (I am saying perhaps) there is a point in their careers when they feel they are so good, they no longer do the basics. Maybe they cease to take proper care of their bodies, or perhaps they push their bodies too hard because they get a high from being quicker than anyone. Look at how Grant Hill changed his game and takes proper care of his body now, and he’s become a very lasting player, even though he suffered potentially career ending injuries. Wade got hurt pretty bad in a knee, but he’s taken proper care of his body and he’s doing great. T-Mac has a reputation for being lazy, I cannot attest to it, but it fits right into my theory.

  • MikeC.

    TMac simply has not done enoughto be considered. highlights mean very little without wins.

  • IamYOU

    I think he’s getting the “hall of pain” from his past injuries.. still T-mac was the shiznit in the early 2000′s!

  • H-Town

    Look tracy is One Of The Best players ever, The only reason he has not been noticed is because of his knee injuries And Still he is a very productive role player And I would love him on my team

  • MacDizzle

    @MikeC. Hakeem won a championship I believe.

  • http://WWW.BENNY.COM BIG MONEY

    ” NOW I KNOW WHAT IT FEELS LIKE TO BEEN IN THE 2ND ROUND”

  • Dman

    @MikeC. Hakeem and Drexler = 2 rings each. You obviously didn’t see Hakeem play. Has to be top 5 center of all time.

  • Dman

    Correction 2 for Hakeem 1 for Drexler

  • Anthony

    For all u ppl tht sed he never made it out of the first round…. He did. Google tht before u run ur mouth about sumthing u have no knowledge of. :) Technically he didn’t play but he was on tha roster active when the rockets went to the second round. Thus, yes he’s seen a second round. Technicalities count.
    Anthony-1
    Everyone else-0

  • Brett

    Yes.before his injury he was one of the best scores in the league wen he was with toronto an magic he was a better scorer than kobe.an kobe is jus a great scorer

  • hop

    All T mac gotta do is make that 20,000 points list, he is at 18,373… Vince Carter never made the N.B.A. 1st team… so how is he going to go before T Mac?!?!?!!?! by dunks lol

  • Christian Perez

    T-MAC will be a H.O.F.er and he will get past 20,00 thats 1 right there and look at the fact he made teams good out of nothing who’d Orlando have…. and old penny hardaway…who’d Houston have…..Yao Ming who couldnt play more then 30 games and juwan howard dats wack…..who’d NY have no one but they were ass anyway……who’d Detroit have rip hamilton who was always injured and ben gordon who couldn’t do crap and they were ass 2……and atlanta and toronto are the only ones that he is a tiny bit acoountable for but for both hes wasn’t evn a main go to guy in toronto it was vince carter and in atalant it was joe johnson and josh smith so yes he is a H.O.F.er and idc what anyone else says cause those r the facts so all yall can eat it peace my brofas

  • Seriously

    A 5 time all star starter, Many HOFers never started a all star game because they were not the best player at there position T-Mac was 5 different times.Compare him to similar Hall of Famers like lets say Chris Mullins , seriously what did he do better than T-Mac. As a matter a fact in 2008 they played the Jazz in game 6 or 7 the close out game for the series T-mac had 43 points and his teammates couldnt make a wide open shot is that his fault F-no.If he was on a better team and not injured so much, for entertaining the fans with his highlight reel play like the dunk in the playoffs on Shawn Bradley a 7’6″ guy, the talk would be ,is he the best player ever. thread over kiss my ass T-Mac haters. I think alot of the haters are really T-Mac fans and just disapointed he did not have the ability too single handedly take his team too the next level it’s not like they were’nt close playoff series they were all close and the teams that beat them were serious contenders at the time.

  • Kyrie IRVING #2

    T-Mac is one of the biggest reasons I started playing basketball.HELL YEAH is HOF quailty.!?!
    #true

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