Deron Williams Slowly Buying into the ‘Vision’ of the Brooklyn Nets?

I agree that this is an isolated situation. I just think he could have took the fallout and it would have been fine.
He was so afraid of becoming LeBron he became worse than LeBron.
LeBron was guilty of hubris and naivete.
Dwight seems to have much bigger issues.

I agree with that completely. He didn’t handle this how he should have. But the Magic as the Organization who is supposed to be appealing to players, handled this worse. (imo)

You just don’t understand what he public eye is? Is that it?
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Shaq couldn’t do those things, and he is still as mature as a 12 year old. Yet, he was “the man” on every team he played on until he was 34. Despite playing with Penny, Kobe, and Wade.
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The best player, the most popular player, is ALWAYS going to be viewed as “the man” – this is a given, if you have any semblance of the history of basketball.

Obviously you don’t get it…..still.
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Nobody cares how you feel, we are talking about Dwight and how HE feels. If this discussion was about how you feel then I’m sorry I wasted so much time. I don’t give a damn.

I don’t care about how the public feels or how you feel either. Dwight will not be the man who leads a team to a title by closing games. That’s common sense to anyone who watches him play. Unless he decides to be as dominant as Shaq was, he’ll be the number two guy behind a great guard. Dwight feels like he has to be liked by everyone and if he keeps that mentality, he will stay in Orlando and not win anything rather than being disliked by some people and leaving to play with someone who can lead him to a championship. The LeBron comparison rings true here. LeBron decided to take the scrutiny and leave. Dwight should do the same.

Actually, i agree with Asad too, Dwight was very much undecided and had bad influences whsipering in his ears (his agent) and backtracked A LOT. So it really goes both ways.. imo

Put Dwight on the Nets today and take Deron off and you will not make the playoffs. In my opinion, if you’re not the worst team in the league like the Bobcats and you’re not a title contender, you’re in the same category. Middle of the pack. The Nets would be one of those teams in that category still if you replaced Deron with Dwight. Dwight will get you those stats but he can’t win games for you consistently because his offensive game is not great. Deron’s game is big time. Championship ready. If Lopez had been healthy all season, they would be in the playoffs in that 8 or 7 spot.

Dwight has already been 2 games from winning a title as the best player on a team. It’s pretty absurd to say it “can’t happen”
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Dwight has decided to leave. Signing a waiver to stay for one more year was a decision to try and make sure he gets what he wants. Which is to go to a team he wants to go to, while retaining his bird rights and the $30M that go along with it. Despite what was said in one press conference the day after the deadline (which was designed to save Dwight’s image, while also keeping people in Orlando excited about the team), Dwight never changed his mind about leaving. The only reason you should believe he changed his mind is if you are gullible enough to believe everything you hear. Obviously he made business decisions (which included lying to the public about “changing” his mind) but he never actually changed his mind. Which the Orlando Magic organization knew, which is why whatever dumbass executive it was, relayed that Howard wanted Van Gundy out too Van Gundy. If they didn’t, Van Gundy would have never heard about it, he would have just been fired at the end of the year. Which might happen anyway now that he admitted he knew about it too the media.
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In closing, the problems stem from the Magic organization and their constant failures over the last few years. Dwight screwed up by telling the team how he felt, obviously, he was being selfish trying to secure that extra money by demanding a trade that inevitably hurt his image. Ultimately though, Dwight will be in a city he wants to be in, with the money he was originally after, and he will be viewed as a savior and “the man” in whatever city that is. Ultimately.

I’m looking at the guy who can get you a bucket whenever you need it. Dwight can’t do that. Never has. He can’t touch the ball late in games because teams will send him to the line and he will miss his shots. If you’re up 10 points with a few minutes left and you want to stop a run by the Magic, foul Dwight. Slow the game down. He will miss half of his shots. Can’t do that with Deron.

Don’t do it Deron!

Asad, do you not know what “compete” means? I didn’ say the Nets would get homecourt, I said they would compete, just like Orlando did this year. Just read the words I right, don’t add your own dumb assumptions too them. ANd why in the blue hell do you think if Dwight went to Brooklyn that other people won’t come with? You think the Nets are going to add one of the best players in the league and just stand pat? Are you the king of crappy assumptions?

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You both are on complete opposite sides of the spectrum. One is on the “its dwights fault” side, the other is on the “its the teams fault” side, far right, and far left. Most ppl find themselves in the middle of that spectrum, agree that Dwight was going back and forth in his mind, nbk, ur forgetting, ppl close to him, and knew what he was thinking, “leaked” (this had nothing to do with magic management btw) that UP TO THE TRAD DEADLINE, Dwight was still confused As HELL about what he was going to do, going bak, and forth, and bak, and forth. Dwight has said this himself (lot sof praying, lots of fasting, blahblahblah).

There also is no doubt that the team played a part, and the “leaking” that was gonig on helped no one or anything, and only further made the public turn agaisnt Dwight and almost held him hostage and made him resign by putting a gun to his head.

The average fan acknowledges both sides to this. (The how Good is Dwight debate right now is all urs tho guys, go ahead lol)

Rainman is right, mostly everyone acknowledges both sides to the argument

There is a such thing as defense baby girl. Dwight’s defensive impact vastly outweighs Deron Williams impact in 2 f*cking minutes. smh

Rainman, who “close to him” leaked that? Aren’t members of the Magic Organization people “close to him”
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And I stated, numerous times that Dwight did not handle this correctly. I also stated, the Magic handled this worse.
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This originally started because ultra dumb Asad said the Nets would be better off with Brook F*CKING Lopez over Dwight Howard. Am I the only person who has actually read this horrible conversation from start to finish?

I didn’t say the Nets would be better with Lopez than Dwight foolish child. I said that if Dwight continues to not know what he wants to do, he cannot be trusted which is why Deron Williams himself stopped talking with him before the deadline. And with Lopez at full health, the Nets would have made the playoffs this season. Keep up.

I don’t need people to agree with me. You can get as many people as you want to agree with you and it doesn’t mean you’re right. At all.

Dude must be Dwight’s brother or cousin. Clearly, his mind changed multiple times. But use “ultra gullible” one more time and maybe that will make it true. Doubt it. But try it and see.

Clearly his mind changed Mutliple times if you believe everything you hear and read. Just like Tupac is still alive, Bill Clinton never inhaled, and Dwight never said he wanted Stan Van fired.

Lol boo hoo. If you haven’t noticed commenting is wasting time.

your awesome nbk

Shout out to The Philosopher