Monday, April 16th, 2012 at 8:30 am  |  146 responses

Post Up: All Of The Lights

Carmelo’s 42 isn’t enough to beat the Heat and the Lakers outlast Dallas without Kobe.

by Abe Schwadron | @abe_squad

On a weekend highlighted by some amazing outdoor hooping-type weather in New York City, here’s hoping you made it inside to watch some of the key battles on Sunday. Starting—where else—in the Big Apple.

Heat 93, Knicks 85

LeBron James dropped 29 points and 10 rebounds, and running mate Dwyane Wade added 28 and 9 as Miami overcame a 42-point effort from Carmelo Anthony—but it was James’ defense, not offense, that won this game for the Heat. Over the last 8 minutes of the game, with Bron Bron pretty much exclusively on ‘Melo, Anthony could muster just 3 points on 1-5 shooting, marginalizing an otherwise monster performance. Then again, Anthony played 43 minutes and was the Knicks’ only source for offense—the only other New York player in double figures was JR Smith (16), while Landry Fields, Iman Shumpert and Baron Davis shot a combined 4-18 from the field. Davis looked especially old and slow on Sunday, finishing with more turnovers (5) than assists (4). Chris Bosh led an improved Heat rebounding resolve, with 14 boards to complement his 16 points. Enjoy this one? You might be in for more, since these teams could hook up for a first-round Playoff matchup.

Lakers 112, Mavericks 108 (OT)

The Lakers won a fourth straight game without the services of Kobe Bryant, this time outlasting the defending champions behind 23 points and 16 rebounds from Andrew Bynum and a pair of big 3-pointers in overtime from Pau Gasol—although he may have goten a controversial helping hand from Matt Barnes on the first one. Gasol finished his day with 20 and 10, Barnes posted 11, 11 and 8 dimes while Ramon Sessions scored 22 points and the Lake Show held a 50-32 advantage on points in the paint. Los Angeles fought back from a fourth quarter deficit and completed the 4-game season series sweep of the Mavs, who ousted the Purple & Gold in the Playoffs last year, lest you forget. Jason Terry (21 points) sent the game into overtime on a 20-footer with 55 seconds to go in regulation, but missed what would have been the game-tying bucket at the rim with 5 seconds left in OT after avoiding Barnes mid-air. Dirk Nowitzki scored a game-high 24 points (plus 14 boards) but needed 28 shots to get there.

Raptors 102, Hawks 86

Even with Josh Smith scoring 12 of his game-high 26 points in the first quarter, and even with a 15-6 run to open the second half, the Hawks could never manage to grab the lead in this one—Atlanta trailed by 14 at halftime and never got closer than 7 points from midway through the third quarter on. Toronto shot 55 percent from the field, led by 23 points from DeMar Derozan (8-15 shooting) and a rag-tag crew of D-Leaguers, 10-day contract guys and injury fill-ins. Among the 6 Raptors in double figures scoring-wise were Alan Anderson (16 points), Ben Uzoh and Justin Dentmon (10 points each). Atlanta starters not named Josh Smith combined for just 12 points—Joe Johnson accounted for 7 of those while shooting 2-12. ATL’s hopes of snagging the 3-seed in the East took a serious hit in a game they probably shouldn’t have lost. Thanks Joe!

Magic 100, Cavaliers 84

With Dwight Howard and Kyrie Irving both on the shelf, it wasn’t exactly the star-powered game it might have been a few months back—and the Magic got more bad news on the injury front, losing Glen Davis to a sprained knee midway through this one—but Orlando led from start to finish to officially clinch a Playoff berth. Cleveland shot just 32 percent from the field and turned the ball over 18 times, while Orlando protected the ball (only 6 turnovers) and had 5 players in double figures. Jameer Nelson and Antawn Jamison each led their squads with 21 points.

Bulls 100, Pistons 94 (OT)

It’s clear that Derrick Rose is still in the midst of shaking the rust off his game, but even on a night when the MVP turned the ball over 7 times and shot 9-22, he was ready when called upon, drilling the game-tying 3-pointer with 6.5 seconds to go in the fourth quarter against Detroit and leading the Bulls to the overtime victory. Rose finished with 24 points and 9 dimes, but it was Joakim Noah who was the driving force for Chicago—he man-handled the Pistons down low, racking up 20 points and 17 rebounds, plus 2 blocked shots. Other than Rose, Noah and Carlos Boozer (15×9), the Bulls can thank Rodney Stuckey for helping produce the W, since Stuck missed two free throws in the final 16 seconds of regulation—if he’d made just one of them, the game likely would never have gone to OT. Then again, Stuckey’s 32 points kept Detroit in the game on a night when the Pistons shot 39 percent from the field.

Kings 104, Trail Blazers 103

First things first, guys—Hasheem Thabeet sighting! The former No. 2 overall pick turned trade throw-in played 13 minutes, grabbed 3 rebounds, blocked a shot and scored 2 points on a surprisingly nice oop jam. Despite the matchup of a pair of Lottery teams, this was a low-key super entertaining game. After utterly dominating for most of the night, DeMarcus Cousins (23 points, 7 rebounds) put the Kings up by 2 on a driving bucket with under a minute to play. Portland’s Wesley Matthews answered back with a corner three with under 10 seconds left to put the Blazers back in front. Then, with the game hanging in the balance, Marcus Thornton caught an inbounds pass, took one dribble and pulled up at the elbow for a game-winning jumpshot, part of his 20-point performance. If not for Thornton’s clutch bucket, we’d be talking about Matthews’ huge game (and what was almost a game-winner)—he had 19 of his 31 points in the third quarter, including 5 threes.

Celtics 94, Bobcats 82

How do we even talk about Charlotte these days? Like, if they don’t get the No. 1 pick this year, where do they go from here? Before I digress into philosophical questions that rank right up there with the mysteries of the universe, let’s talk about their latest destruction, this time at the hands of the Celtics’ B-team. Doc Rivers was so confident against the Bobcats that he told his Big Three to stay home—that’s right: Ray Allen, Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett didn’t even make the trip to North Carolina. And why would they? In their absence, Boston still had a relatively easy time disposing of the ‘Cats. Rajon Rondo had 20 points, 16 assists and 6 rebounds and Avery Bradley and Brandon Bass each scored 22 points.

Hornets 88, Grizzlies 75

With brand-new owner Tom Benson in attendance, the Hornets improved to 2-0 under his “new direction” on the strength of 18 points on 9 shots from Eric Gordon and 16 points and 11 rebounds from Carl Landry. New Orleans is now 5-2 on the year when Gordon plays, but just 18-42 overall. For Memphis, it was a forgettable night to say the least—the Grizz shot 36 percent, blew an 11-point lead and saw Marc Gasol (11 points, 7 rebounds, 3 assists) leave in the fourth quarter with a knee injury. If he’s out for any extended period of time, that could be trouble for the Grizzlies (obvious alert). Rudy Gay scored 24 points on 9-17 shooting to pace Memphis, but the road boys were outscored 40 to 22 in the paint.

Nuggets 101, Rockets 86

In what was a crucial game for Playoff positioning, the Nuggets used a big third period and domination down low to jump out to a double-digit lead and finish off the Rockets. Denver outscored Houston 60 to 26 on points in the paint and 37-19 in the third quarter. Arron Afflalo scored 18 of his 20 points in the second half and Ty Lawson matched his 20 as the Nuggs won a season-high 5th straight home game—they currently are the 7-seed in the West, just a half-game back of Dallas for the No. 6 spot. Houston, meanwhile, had a 4-game road winning streak snapped and lost their 3rd straight overall, dropping down to the 8-seed, with Phoenix only 1 game behind. Not only that, but the oft-banged up Marcus Camby left at halftime with a back injury.

Line of the Night: I know the Knicks took the L, but ‘Melo’s 42 was still the best line of the day.

Moments of the Night: Marcus Thornton wins it for the Kings, and DRose drills a 3 to take Detroit to OT.

Dunk of the Night: DMC down the lane for the dunk.

Tonight: 11 games on deck, highlighted by a late-night showdown between the Thunder and Clippers.

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  • http://Roosterteeth.com Caboose

    We should lay out the myriad definitions of MVP and see who wins ONLY between Bron and KD.
    -”Best player on the best team” —-Durant
    -”Best player”—-LeBron
    -”Most negative impact on team if removed”—-LeBron
    -”Best statistics”—-LeBron
    -”Best team leader”—-Durant
    -”Most versatile to team”—-LeBron
    -”Most efficient”—-Wash
    -”Best scorer”—-Durant
    -”Best offensive player”—-Wash
    -”Biggest impact on both ends of the court”—-LeBron

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Most efficient isn’t a wash. Not even close.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    LeBron is having one of the 15 most efficient seasons in NBA history. Durant is barely in the top 100.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    Jukai, what do you mean “some people”?

  • http://Roosterteeth.com Caboose

    nbk: I agree with you, but let’s just appease some members of the opposite party right? That way we have something to argue away later….

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    CHI has been the best team this season, I’m not so sure about KD being a better leader than LeBron, LeBron is the better offensive player because of his ability to control the tempo from the 1 spot and LeBron is having one of the most efficient seasons for a perimeter player in history.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Durant’s TS% is .012% higher than LeBron. It’s not enough to wave that stat around like it proves something significant.

  • MUBWAR

    MVP should go to the best player in the top 2 teams in each conference. So Lebron vs Rose(disqualified for missing 2 many games) vs Parker vs Durant. Lbj reigns supreme there

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    i don’t like appeasing people unless they are children and we are talking about December 25

  • http://Roosterteeth.com Caboose

    I only listed all those things to prove my point: it’s LeBron. Imagine if Bron and Durant traded places on teams and stat lines. KD would be MVP in a heartbeat.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    That’s true Caboose. But then they would have to change their games to be each other. They aren’t, they are very different players. Durant isn’t a play making passer. Bron isn’t a closer. I prefer the greater scorer, and closer personally. You guys prefer the better defender and play maker.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    I just saw a poll on NBA.com and 69% choose Bynum over Howard going ahead. WTF. I know Howard’s antics this season has worn thin on most people but are NBA fans really that dumb? On second thought….they are.

  • The Mauve Avenger

    You know Bynum was mad when Gasol hit his 3s. LOL!

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Seriously that’s pure stupidity Taylor. Bynum still hasn’t proved himself at all. We know he is a good/great 2nd option when healthy. As I said: As the man, without Kobe around, as the first option, he is shooting 41% FG’s… Nuff said.

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    JT that poll pretty much reflects my feelings towards the general fans and media.

  • HiDef

    Consider this:

    Player A: 26.5 ppg 7.0 rpg 5.2 apg 1.5 bpg 1.5 spg 54%FG and significantly better defender than Player B
    Player B: 26.0 ppg 9.7 rpg 2.0 apg 0.7 bpg 0.7 spg 42%FG and killed it in the clutch

    Player A clearly has better stats, yet Player B was unanimously seen as the best player (and rightfully so). I say this not to say Bron shouldn’t be MVP, but that sometimes the logical decision isn’t always the right one.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Who are those players HD?

  • HiDef

    DWade and Dirk from finals last year

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    Neither are LeBron idk what it’s supposed to prove about him?

  • http://www.facebook.com/joe.l.brewer3 BlackPhantom

    Damnit I wish school wouldn’t keep me from the good conversations on these threads, whenever most of the good threads happen…I’m in school. Oh well, sacrifices are a part of life anyway.

  • HiDef

    It proves that it’s contextual. You have to look at numbers and wins, granted, but you also have to consider myriad other things too; expectations, team mates, coming through when it matters most, raising your own game, intangibles.

    Again, I’m not saying Bron doesn’t deserve the MVP, but I don’t think it is as clear-cut as people make it. I expect Bron to win the MVP, and have no issue if he does, but at the same time think it is justifiable should KD or Parker (the only other two candidates in my opinion) win it.

    So, to refer back to what the scenario I mentioned, Lebron plays the role of Player A – logically he should win MVP. KD/Parker the role of Player B.

  • HiDef

    Having said all of this, as long as there is no concrete definition for MVP, results will always incur debate. And honestly, I like it that way.

  • LA Huey

    Dirk was seen as the best player in that series because his TEAM won. Wade was single best player in that series but his teammates didn’t come through like Dirk’s did and they rarely give Finals MVPs to losing players. And people overvalue offense (or undervalue defense, not sure which it is).

  • LA Huey

    But I do agree that the title of ‘MVP’ is contextual and has different meanings for different people. Ex: Chauncey Billups was the ’04 Finals MVP even though, to me, Ben Wallace was the one that gave them any shot at winning that series.

  • HiDef

    Exactly – it’s subjective and contextual and also why it’s not the Best Player Award. Dirk raised his game and his team’s. Thus, most valuable. KD and TP have raised their games and their team’s. Lebron has certainly raised his play (although it has slipped at the wrong time), but has he really raised his team to a new level?

  • HiDef

    Oh for sure, no argument for me if Ben won that one.

  • HiDef

    *from

  • http://fkjlf.com Jukai

    Saying Durant is on a better team is just so downright disingenuous.
    The problem is the logic that Caboose has on his 5:37 pm post.
    -”Most negative impact on team if removed”—-LeBron
    BULLSH*T.
    If Lebron was moved away from the Heat, the team would have Wade and Bosh, Wade would overly dominate the ball, Bosh wouldn’t be pushed back to a third option, and the team would still perform very, very well. The lineup of Chalmers, Wade, Miller, Bosh and Turiaf would do more than fine.
    If you take Durant away from that team, you have a starting lineup of Westbrook, Harden, Sefo, Ibaka, and Perkins. Excuse me while I hold back my laughter.
    There’s a lot of hypocrisy when talking about the Heat, and I’ve been a Heat fan since Lebron has been there.
    Kobe isn’t in the top-5 because the team has Andrew Bynum and Gasol, and they are under-performing and it must be Kobe’s fault.
    Lebron is the front-runner MVP because Bosh and Wade are under-performing and Lebron deserves no blame from it.
    I wont have a problem if Lebron wins the award. If you have a problem with Durant winning it, you need to step away from basketball reference and watch an actual game.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    You do know that proposed lineup of Wade/Bosh as the Heat’s 1/2 option has been one of their worst 5-man units this season?

  • http://fkjlf.com Jukai

    So what’s your argument, Bosh and Wade can’t coexist?

  • http://fkjlf.com Jukai

    Damnit JTaylor, I just checked, that lineup hasn’t even been played this season. It looks like Wade and Bosh usually play together whenever the flailing Cole is in, as well as Haslem who plays an identical position as Bosh. Great find, JTaylor.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    My fault, I wasn’t talking about the lineup you proposed, I was talking about whenever Wade/Bosh are in the lineup (without LeBron), MIA struggles mightly.

  • LA Huey

    Haha. Did JTaylor just get exposed? Jukai getting his J-Rose on…or bluffing.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    Of course, they can co-exist. Wade is probably the best playmaker at the 2 while Bosh excels as a 2nd option.
    Caboose is right though because MIA’s offense/defense seems to go into the tank whenever LeBron is on the bench.

  • http://fkjlf.com Jukai

    The best lineup without Wade/Lebron together is the lineup of Chalmers-Jones-James-Bosh-Anthony which has a win percentage of 87.5. The next one is Cole-Wade-Miller-Haslem-Bosh with a win percentage of 76.
    Chalmers-Harris-Battier-Haslem-Bosh has a win percentage of 100!!!!
    I think the lineup would be fine.

  • http://fkjlf.com Jukai

    The latter half of the season, yeah, the offense has stalled when Lebron sits. That’s partially because the latter half of the season, Spo been doing more cosmetic surgeon to the lineups than what Michael Jackson got. Of course, Wade should get the partial blame.
    But Lebron hasn’t been performing very well in the latter half of the season too. His scoring hasn’t been impactful— he scores the same in the flow of the game, whether it’s during a run or a drought. He occasionally will have his third quarter run, but it wasn’t like in the beginning of the season where he was tearing it up whenever he needed to.
    I really am beginning to think the Heat are just taking it easy so they don’t tire themselves out, but it’s gotta be discounted against him. A big problem is Lebron performing poorly is still the best player in the league.

  • LA Huey

    People focus way too much on LBJ’s flaws in my opinion. They let it overshadow how amazing the rest of his game is. LeBron is a FORCE on defense. Few guys are very good defenders in an individual and team sense.

  • http://fkjlf.com Jukai

    LA Huey: he’s the best player in the game. But the best player doesn’t necessarily win the MVP. He’s underperformed, and it’s not all his fault, the coaching is awful, his lineups have been juggled, and Wade/Lebron still aren’t comfortable around each other (and may never be).
    But we can’t give him the MVP by saying “well if he had a good coach and could get along with Wade, he’d easily have the best record in the L!”
    That being said, Lebron’s statistical dominance AND the fact that he really was playing OUT OF THIS WORLD in the beginning half of the season, combined with the fact that Durant started slow, may certainly mean Lebron gets to hold up the trophy by the end of the year. I’m just saying, it’s not a shocker if he doesn’t.
    Also, I don’t know what to make of this… but on 82games, I can’t FIND a lineup where Westbrook doesn’t play with Durant. I’m not even kidding, it’s not in the top-20 most played lineups. The lineup of Jackson-Cook-Harden-Collison-Mohammed got 134 minutes this season… Westbrook has played maybe 15 minutes without Durant this entire season. Wow.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    The Cole-Wade-Battier-Haslem-Bosh lineup which has been on the floor the second most minutes has -29 in terms of +/- while a similar lineup of Cole-Miller-Battier-James-Haslem is +39. So..yeah

  • LA Huey

    I agree with you. I think LeBron’s ahead of Durant but I wouldn’t shocked or outraged that Durant won. I can see a legit case being made for Durant.

  • http://fkjlf.com Jukai

    JTaylor: So Bosh and Wade make the team 50 points worse? You’re digging, dude, let it go. All the best lineups are with Joel Anthony, do you think they should play Joel for 40 minutes a game?
    5-man lineups are immensely dependent on who they are playing and how long they play with these lineups. I feel bad for Miller, Battier and JJ becuase sometimes they play three minutes and get yanked. That f’s up the five man lineup ratings.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    Like I said I was just looking at the lineup with the most minutes. You can not use a lineup that has played 88 mins because that is not enough of a sample size to predict just how well so and so will play together. You must have skipped the part when I said that Wade/Bosh would be fine if LeBron went to NY or CHI instead of MIA .

  • http://Roosterteeth.com Caboose

    Yeah LeBron could perform better, we know he has the capacity to. But we aren’t talking about maximizing potential when it comes to MVP. If the challenger chef makes his best dish and the Iron Chef is a little off his game, but it’s still better than the challenger, Iron Chef wins.

  • http://fkjlf.com Jukai

    Caboose: Unfortunately, it’s a team game. If Iron Chef Japan, China and France team up against the head chef of Aux Lyonnais and two guys who work at taco bell, and the latter wins the food competition… Iron Chef Japan better have made the best damn dish in the world to take MVP in that tournament.
    That all being said, if Lebron finishes the season as good as he finished against the Nets, the MVP is his. Damn.

  • http://Roosterteeth.com Caboose

    Agreed. I won’t be upset if Durant gets MVP, I just really feel LeBron deserves it this year. And Nets, wow. I’ll bet tomorrow’s Post Up breaks 200 comments.

  • Mike From Spain

    Lebron could be a lock for MVP all the years he plays, he just puts better numbers and defense than all other candidates.

    It looks like past MVPs get a bit of a penalty in the vote because there is some perception that the MVPs have to change.

    Do we have stats of OKC without Durant to value how does his team fare without him?

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