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Monday, April 9th, 2012 at 8:30 am  |  114 responses

Post Up: Call Me Carmelo

Melo’s heroics ruin DRose’s return, LBJ leads MIA and San Antonio wins No. 11 in a row.

by Abe Schwadron | @abe_squad

Another Sunday Funday to recap, so grab that Monday morning cup of coffee and warm up the typing fingers. Let’s get it.

Knicks 100, Bulls 99 (OT)

What a game. Derrick Rose was finally back in uniform after missing 12 games due to injury, and the Bulls and Knicks squared off in what could be a first-round Playoff matchup. The Knicks took a 21-point lead in the first quarter, only to see it become a 10-point deficit by the fourth quarter—good thing New York had Carmelo Anthony on its side. Melo finished with 43 points, 7 rebounds and 3 assists in 47 minutes, getting every big bucket for the Knicks all game long. None bigger than these two, though—first, he forces OT with a three. Then, he finishes the game off with an eerily similar trey, outdueling a rusty DRose (29 points, but on 8-26 shooting) in a game when both teams shot sub-40 percent from the floor.

Celtics 103, Sixers 79

It’s hard to say which team this result says more about—the surging Celtics or the slipping Sixers? Rajon Rondo’s 15 assists marked the 17th straight game in which he’s racked up double-digit dimes, and his passing opened up the floor for the Cs to shoot 59 percent from the field (Philly shot just 38 percent). Kevin Garnett scored 20 points on just 11 shots to lead all scorers, even while he played only 27 minutes. Meanwhile, the Sixers’ typical “balanced” scoring attack saw just 3 players in double figures, led by Nikola Vucevic’s 14 points and 13 rebounds. Philly has now lost 4 in a row, this time to the team they once held a healthy lead over in the Atlantic Division. As of today, Boston sits in the 4-spot in the East, while Philadelphia is the 8-seed, trailed by only one game by Milwaukee.

Heat 98, Pistons 75

No Dwyane Wade, no problem. DWade sat out with a sprained ankle, and LeBron James and Chris Bosh responded as they always do by carrying the Heat to a win. LeBron finished with 26 points on 12-22 shooting, Bosh had 22 points and 9 rebounds and James Jones chipped in a career-high 18 off the bench (yes, all on 6 three-pointers) as Miami won its 12th game in the last 13 against Detroit. The Heat are now an NBA-best 24-3 at home and, yes…10-1 without Wade. How terrible did the Pistons play against the vaunted Miami D? As a team, they piled up 22 turnovers and just 8 assists. That’s pretty terrible. The least terrible Piston was Brandon Knight, who scored 16 points. Greg Monroe had 11 points on 5-8 shooting—can we get this dude some more touches, for the love of Pete.

Nets 122, Cavaliers 117 (OT)

Gerald Green scored 32 points—a season-high and one point shy of his career-high—in leading the Nets to what was an unexpectedly thrilling showdown of Lottery teams in Newark. Not to be outdone, Antawn Jamison poured in 34 points of his own for the Cavaliers, but with ROY favorite Kyrie Irving still nursing a right shoulder injury, Cleveland didn’t have the will to win in OT. How did they get there? Check out the last 30 seconds of regulation for some craziness:

The Nets scored the first four points of overtime and never looked back. Green threw down a nasty alley-oop dunk from Deron Williams (18 points, 10 rebounds) to put the finishing touches on a New Jersey win—the Nets are just 9-19 at home this year.

Spurs 114, Jazz 104

San Antonio is quietly becoming a monster. Consider this: they blew past Utah with relative ease, riding 28 points from Tony Parker and 51 percent shooting as a team—all with Boris Diaw in the starting lineup (DeJuan Blair cannot be happy about this). Manu Ginobili added 23 points and Tim Duncan had 13 points and 16 boards as the Spurs won their 11th straight game as they sit atop the West. The only thing crazier than that streak is that it happens to be the second such stint that the Spurs have rattled off already this year. San Antonio outshot the Jazz from the free throw line (38-43 to 16-26) and held Paul Millsap to a dreadful 2 points on 1-8 shooting and 3 rebounds. As if Utah—now on the outside looking in at the Playoff picture—needed more bad news, CJ Miles left in the second quarter with a calf injury and did not return.

Thunder 92, Raptors 75

Kevin Durant scored 23 points and James Harden’s 17 led a 40 to 21 bench scoring advantage for Oklahoma City as the Thunder beat down the Raptors to snap a season-high 3-game losing streak. Russell Westbrook added 15 points, 6 rebounds and 6 assists and Serge Ibaka notched his 16th 5-block game of the year as the Thunder improved to 24-5 at home and are in a virtual tie with San Antonio for the top spot in the Western Conference. Durant led a 24-0 second-half run that spelled doom for Toronto, which was led in scoring by Jose Calderon’s 19 points. Unfortunately, DeMar Derozan was 6-22 from the floor (16 points), James Johnson was 2-11 (5 points) and the Raps as a team shot a dysmal 37 percent on field goals.

Rockets 104, Kings 87

Houston is now 7-3 over its last 10 games after completing the season sweep of Sacramento behind 17 first-quarter points from Courtney Lee, who finished with a season-high 25. Perhaps even more encouraging than the big win for the Rockets was the return of Kyle Lowry, who played 18 minutes and dished out 7 assists (only 1 point) while regaining his strength, zapped from a serious bacterial infection. Houston led most of the way in this one, and while the Kings ended the third quarter on a 16-4 run, the red-hot Rockets were simply too much on the offensive end, sharing the ball to the tune of 29 team dimes. Terrence Williams continued his stellar play of late, leading SacTown in scoring with 21 points—but Tyreke Evans (3-7 shooting, 6 points, 1 assist) and DeMarcus Cousins (4-8, 9 points, 8 rebounds) struggled.

Line of the Night: Melo’s 43 for the Knickerbockers.

Stat of the Night: The aforementioned Boris Diaw now has more wins while a member of the Spurs (9) than his entire season prior to now with the Bobcats (7).

Dunk of the Night: Derrick Favors on Tiago Splitter. Duck for cover, San Antonio.

Tonight: Ten games on tap, including Clippers-Grizzlies, Spurs-Jazz and a Lottery matchup for the ages as the Bobcats host the Wizards. See you back here in 24.

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  • http://www.slamonline.com spit hot fiyah

    the spurs are scary deeeeep

  • http://slamonline.com wtf

    Meelllooooooo! too clutch

  • monkeyball

    Terrible win for the Knicks. Melo hit two bad shots and they got the W, but now he’s going to want to take 30 footers at the end of every game.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Jahmai

    I’m glad the Bulls play the Knicks again on tuesday night. It was so great to see Derrick back on the floor but it was hard to see him totally screw up in the clutch, about as bad as it can get. 2 missed ft an airball jumper when he had a chance to win it and in OT I thought that floater could’ve gone in but it was a terrible last possesion from the start because Rose tripped and the ball had to be inbounded so when he finally got it he had to kind of run along the 3-point line to the baseline to the hoop and throw it over 2 defenders. As hard as it I say bring on the failure! I think it will only make him better in the long run and more aggresive in these situations. If I’m being totally honest (and this is hard to admit) but the clutch FT shooting is starting to worry me a little bit though. (NCAA Championship game, against the Clippers last year at home, @Miami game 4, @Miami 1st game this season and he missed one of two against the knicks @MSG earlier this season). I’ve seen him made those shots but he’s got this glazy look in his eyes, he looks nervous imo. Still my favorite player over anybody else and I wouldn’t trade him for nobody.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Jahmai

    *for anybody.

  • http://www.andywhitby.com Andy Whitby

    Monkeyball…your a fool, there isn’t such a thing as ‘a terrible win’ and i think he’s got a little more intelligence to know he can’t jack 30ft bombs at will. Grow up.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Jahmai

    BTW, Drose doing a little ‘gun shooting celebration’ (I have no idea how to call it) after that 4-point play was f*ck*ng awesome. Losing not so much.

  • The Mauve Avenger

    Novak must get turned on by big shots or something.

  • ron g

    My boy D Rose tried to put too much on his shoulders his first game back. I know he wanted to put on a show but his teammates need him to create open shots instead of trying to dominate shumpert all second half.

  • ron g

    Even though my knicks won I still don’t see us beating the bulls in the playoffs. All I saw was an energetic team in the knicks taking advantage of a team that’s trying to develop on court chemistry. Melo showed great composure and took advantage of 4 missed free throws by Rose and Deng

  • ALD

    melo never takes good shots lo. he’s a ball stopping supertar but clutch.. Drose needs to get healthy.. missed numerous layups that he usually makes. The spurs are good but they are borin along with their anouncers. I rather see okc or memphis.

  • http://twitpic.com/97jchz IAMORANGE4EVER

    I must say, my Easter Sunday was a FUNDAY. Watching my Knicks win and getting to witness another CLUTCH moment by Carmelo AnthoNY was absolutely great. And Melo hit that clutch shot with Deng landing his hand on Melo’s face…it should’ve been an +1 and an opportunity for a 4-point play…shades of LJ. Can’t wait to do this again Tuesday.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    We all know a certain superstar would get massacred if he missed 2 FTs, threw up an airball for the GW shot then proceeded to miss another GW attempt in OT but since we are not talking about that cat, it’s swept under the rug.

  • http://twitpic.com/97jchz IAMORANGE4EVER

    BREAKING NEWS: Mavs release Lamar Odom. Come home, LO.

  • Heals

    Melo had a great game, but let’s be real the Line if the Night belonged to TommyHeinsohn on the C’s/Sixers broadcast: In reference to a favorable call by referee TonyBrothers, “I love Brothas! (with his old Boston accent).” Must’ve been a tough morning for Bucks fans yesterday…

  • Hart

    Anybody see that Novak in and out shot? Wooo…..that was soooooo close

  • shutup

    How do you get a quiet 11 game winning streak? The Spurs are clicking, integrating their new pick ups. I just hope the people voting on that MVP are watching, because Tony Parker could quite possibly be the best pg in his system. Chris Paul looks brilliant sometimes but looks out of place just as much imo. The only one close would be Nash but they aren’t winning like the Spurs are. Don’t get me wrong I still think Parker is the tortoise in this race, but with the Heat and Thunder slippin, best in the West with their sights on best overall. On another note Carmelo hit two ugly well contested shots to win that game. Returning to old form hopefully, remember when many considered him the best pure scorer in the game….it wasn’t that long ago.

  • shutup

    Orange took me back with Larry throwin up the L mean muggin, once upon a time I was a Knicks fan..Patrick Ewing and John Starks shattered my heart. F^&kin fingeroll, and how come they didn’t go for the tie and win that sh!t in overtime….smh, still gets me upset till this day.

  • Fat Lever

    Wow, well my Sixers are choking away the playoffs, which when I look at it objectively, I have to say I’m not mad at. This is a mediocre team, and if we have to live in the league’s basement for a couple of years while we rebuild, then so be it. I’m tired of mediocrity. Blow this team up, keep ET, Thad, Vuc, and maybe Jrue. Amnesty Brand, trade Dre, let Lou and Hawes walk. And, as much as I hate to say this, it’s time for Doug to walk too.

  • bike

    Rose pulled a Lebron last night. Mr. High and Mighty, No Dancng, Always Super Serious, KD-Over-LBJ bricked in the clutch after going 8-26 (best pg skills, right?).

  • bike

    The Knicks could use Iggy.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    There’s no way TP wins the MVP even if the Spurs have a superior record to OKC and MIA. The last player to put up rudimentary stats and win the MVP was Cousy (56/57) and even he put up better all-around stats than TP. OKC and MIA could have 5 less wins by the season’s end and either KD or LeBron will win the MVP in a landslide over TP.

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    shutup, I hear you. Coach Pop has the Spurs primed and ready for the playoffs.

  • MaxIsNative

    Stephen Jackson, and Blair didn’t even play last night… Crazy how deep the Spurs are.

  • Kadavour

    Shump really exposed Rose yesterday. This guy isn’t much more than a scorer. If the Bulls land a real PG who can penetrate, probe and distribute, it would Rose to move to his natural position – the 2 – and their offense would be MUCH more effective.

  • jinolin

    I don’t get this thing nowadays, KD shoots loooonnng A…-threes all day and plays so so D, yet the kid is the “MVP” according to the general population on this wonderful publication, yet when MELO dose about the same and he is as KG would say a “cancer” to a squad… I do realize that the Thunder have a great record and are playing very well this year. Just a random observation ladies and gentleman.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qNzF0mZUPI MeloManTO

    Hey guys, I was so hyped about Melo yesterday that I decided to make this video (in the midst of studying for exams… I know, crazy). Anywhoo, can you guys check it out? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qNzF0mZUPI

  • http://www.slamonline.com Slick Ric

    lol, look at guys coming out of the wood works hating and being irrational idiots once again. smh, he deserves the criticism for the missed free-throws but to say shumpert exposed him is some of the dumbest sh1t I’ve ever heard. the guy missed a MONTH worth’s of action. only thing expose was that his timing, rhythm and conditioning is not where it needs to be at the moment, idiot.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    It’s because KD isn’t shooting 41% from the field, plays respectable defense, has his team at the top of the west, didn’t get his coach fired, and doesn’t have a team that was hyped up to be one of the best teams in the EC fighting for the 8th seed with the Bucks.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Slick Ric

    c’mon jinolin, if you dont know, then you need not watch basketball anymore. melo had one good game but he’s still inefficient from the field, what is he shooting for the season? about 41% from the field while Durant is shooting about 48%. Durant is still a better defender than melo even though they both can improve and like you stated, his team is actually winning. Durant has seemed to pass melo in every phase of the game besides his post-ups.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Jahmai

    And we all know a certain superstar doesn’t even like to take a shot attempt to win the game this season, yes Drose screwed up big time I said that in the 4th post and I’m a hardcore Bulls/Drose fan, there´s no denying that but he wants to take those shots and he has hit GW this season (Bucks, Lakers, NO).

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qNzF0mZUPI MeloManTO

    ^^ and clutchness

  • Ill Smith

    Melo balled hard yesterday. Zero question. He needed this one to get those boo birds off his back….even though once they get bounced in the 1st round they’ll be calling for his head once again, even without STAT & Lin. I kinda wish he wouldna went to NYK their fans are delusional as hell: one moment they love his clutchness the next he’s a ‘ball stopper’ & they’re running his name thru the Trade Machine. Note though Lin & Melo have both had their win streaks as the teams head…..I’m looking at you Amare.
    Oh & I’m loving how my Cs are flying under the radar this season. Just be ready for The Final Run. Somebody’s getting taken out, preferably Miami. I hate em, the Big 4 hate em & that hate is gone get us somewhere. HATE HATE HATE HATE!

  • Kadavour

    @Slick Ric: he was healthy enough to take 25+ shots right? That kid is a more athletic version of Allen Iverson

  • http://www.slamonline.com Slick Ric

    You’re still an idiot and your argument is still weak. He shouldn’t have taken 25 shots after missing a month but like I said, his timing, rythym and conditioning is not where it needs to be right now. He had more to’s in the first halve than assist for the whole game if I’m not mistaken. that’s an anomaly for him this season. He’s averaging the lowest to’s of his career and the highest assist of his career thus far.

  • http://www.optimabbc.be Max

    I don’t understand why Deng didn’t put his hand up before Melo shot it..
    I’d rather give up a drive than a 3 by Melo when you’re up 3 and their is less than 10 secondes to play.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qNzF0mZUPI MeloManTO

    So no one’s feeling my video? common SLam fam… you guys are dissing

  • http://www.reverbnation.com/tray24 T-Ray

    Are we really going to have this discussion again? Arguing about Rose? When will some of you realize no matter what you say you’re gonna get shot down when you criticize him. He came back from a month off jacked up 25 shots had a team high 29 points. Shump didn’t expose him he just had him on lock and made his shots difficult. Dont read too much into this game I’m sure tomorrow will be much different. That’s real and I’m far from a Rose pedal lover. Shout out to JTaylor for that one.

  • Kadavour

    how is the AI comparison weak? He plays with tremendous heart & always gives maximum effort. That’s why i love his game. That doesn’t mean his game isn’t tremendously flawed. 8 ast/game is paltry for a player with his ability. not his fault though, he’s a scorer. He’s good at putting the ball in the bucket, not getting other guys to do so. That weakness was exposed exactly because his timing and rhythm suffered from a month off nursing injuries. He would have done his team greater service if he focused more on a Rondo-type approach – penetrate, probe and distribute – than trying to shoot his way out of a bad night.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    The Iverson comparision is wrong for Rose…he is much more similar in nature to Stephon Marbury in his prime seasons. Build, speed, explosiveness…all very similar. Similar shortcomings too. Derrick is better all-around, but he and Steph have the same sort of game.

  • Kadavour

    Steph was a MUCH better passer and distributor. And he really favored that pull-up 3 in transition. Otherwise, i dig it.

  • bike

    If I had to start a team I’m still picking that certain superstar over Rose 10/10. That certain superstar is still far and away a better player than the pg who needed 26 shots to get 29 points.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Steph’s range was better from deep and had nice vision, but Derrick seems to be quicker to the hole and is just as strong and his mid-range stepback is pretty solid. I’d still take Derrick, but Steph was really good for a few seasons. Dude’s forget how good he was with all his off the wall behaviors.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Slick Ric

    I concur with E-boy.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Slick Ric

    It’s funny how Roses worst fg% season is marbury best but Rose needs 26 shot to shoot 29 but marbury didn’t need that though. lol & smh

  • http://www.optimabbc.be Max

    Remember Steph AND AI in the 01 allstar game? :)

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iF30WneDtQc Datkid

    I DON’T think rose is more athletic than Prime A.I. and I also think rose is far more unselfish. And if given the opportunity would showcase it more. Now can we please STOP comparing them?? jeeez… we’ve done this like a MILLION times already. and for the record I don’t think shumpert will be able to defend him as well as he did last night… but I think that he’ll still be able to defend him fairly well since Shumpert has roughly the same amount of freakish athleticism that rose does.

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    First off, MeloManTO nice video.

    Secondly, T-Ray’s, “don’t read too much into this (Easter day) game I’m sure tomorrow (Tuesday night in Chicago) will be different,” statement is disrespectful, egregious, asinine-asiten-asieleven-& asitwelve!!!!!!” Shout out to Stephen A. Smith for that one.

  • ron g

    Rose averaged 32 points a game against the knicks before yesterdays game so shump knows he caught rose at a good time. Tuesdays game will be a different story I believe because rose usually comes with a different approach from the start after a loss. If anything Rose was too passive to begin the game, which led to the knicks building a 21 point lead in the first

  • http://www.reverbnation.com/tray24 T-Ray

    Lol touché Orange no disrespect was intended my friend. Meant that the start of the game might not start off as sluggish for the Bulls because they’ll be at home.

  • bike

    Doesn’t change the fact that he still only made 8 of 26 to get 29 points.

  • Old Long Johnson

    @T-Ray: No doubt about that one, bulls will win a close one tomorrow.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    Comparing Rose to Starbury is a disgrace to Rose and all he has accomplished so far in his short career. Was Starbury ever the best player on a 60+ win team? Did starbury ever come close to winning the MVP? Was Starbury even half the leader/teammate Rose is? Come on now, I’m not even the biggest Rose fan around here and I feel the need to defend him.

  • LA Huey

    Knicks-Bulls was a great game but I’d bet that it was Rust that was locking down Rose and not Shumpert. That being said, I’ll take the Bulls +10 over Knicks on Tuesday. I love these home-and-home games, I wish the league did more of them. Particularly conference rivals, and ESPECIALLY division rivals.

  • LA Huey

    JTaylor, I think they were just comparing style of play. Not stature.

  • http://nba.com GP23

    I like Derrick Rose and I love his game… but JTaylor21′s comment at 10:11 is spot on.

  • ALD

    id know why ppl insit on talking about the mpv award because it clearyly does not mean most valuable player.. Plus the award should be givn before the finals imo.

    Rose missed that same shot last year against Lebron. he needs to fix that stepback and make it his goto move.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    Oh…ok. Still, I don’t see the Starbury-Rose comparison. Rose’s better at finishing around the basket, better mid-range and has the ability to carry teams further in the playoffs than Starbury. There hasn’t been a PG like Rose in the history of basketball, his athletic abilities and skills are only comparable to Westbrook.

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    T-Ray what do you think of Shump’s defense? I beleive Shump right now is a better defender than both Tony Allen and Rajon Rondo…

  • http://www.slamonline.com Jahmai

    I remember a slam article where Rose said he loved Steve Francis, now in terms of accomplishments Rose is climbing the ladder so fast it’s hard to compare him to alot of people even though they have a larger body of work when it comes to games played. I do think Rose is more athletic than Iverson though.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Jahmai

    I remember a slam article where Rose said he loved Steve Francis, now in terms of accomplishments Rose is climbing the ladder so fast it’s hard to compare him to alot of people even though they have a larger body of work when it comes to games played. I do think Rose is more athletic than Iverson though.

  • ALD

    i think westbrookis more athletic than rose.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    You believe a rookie (albeit a very good defender) is already better than the best perimeter defender in the NBA? This is why no one takes knick fans and their basketball “knowledge” seriously.

  • http://www.michaeljordansworld.com/statistics/triple_doubles.htm nbk

    right

  • http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/shotchart?gameId=320404014 Allenp

    There are only like six players int he League averaging 8 or more assists. Rose is fine.
    He was rusty, he shot too much and his burst was lacking. It only means something if his burst isn’t there in the playoffs, otherwise he played like 99 percent of players coming off a long lay off.
    Shumpert does play great defense though. He also takes horrible shots.
    The bigger problem was that the ball stuck in Rose’s hands and all that great ball movement and player movement I saw out of Chicago for weeks just disappeared. That is what made them dangerous, but as soon as Rose came back they went back to just standing and crashing the boards. If they play aggressively it only makes Rose MORE dangerous.
    The Spurs appear awesome. But I just can’t shake my doubt. And Tony Parker is having a nice year, and there is a precedent of point guards winning MVP with middling stats (Nash) but I don’t see it happening for him. None of his numbers are eye popping and he’s shooting one of his worst shooting percentages in years, although it’s still stellar for most players.
    Fat Lever
    Why don’t you like Jrue? And you’re ready to fire Collins already?

  • bike

    There are more people who complain about Knicks fans on here than there are actual Knick fans. It’s worth noting.

  • http://nba.com GP23

    The Phoenix Suns have done a great job since the ASG break. They are nearly at that 8th spot now. Before the ASG, the Suns being in Playoff contention seemed ludicrous, so respect goes to them if they can get that 8th seed. Steve Nash is still a Top 5 PG in the league today.

  • http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/shotchart?gameId=320404014 Allenp

    Knicks fans should be happy. Their team looked dead in the water, and now they are sitting at seventh and could still rise since who knows what the hell Orlando and Philly are doing.
    So, they could get a first round matchup against Indiana, a matchup they have to have some confidence in, right?
    So basically, if they keep winning they could go from lottery team, to a second round playoff appearance. That would be a success no matter how you slice it. Of course, they could also squander their current momentum and go on a losing streak to miss the playoffs.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qNzF0mZUPI&feature=youtu.be MeloManTO

    Thanks a lot orange…. appreciate the support from a fellow knicks fan

  • bike

    They’ll squander it. Guaranteed.

  • http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/shotchart?gameId=320404014 Allenp

    Top 5?
    Hmmm.
    Rose
    Paul
    Deron
    Parker
    Westbrook
    Rondo
    Nash
    Now, of the six cats above Nash, who would you bump? I can possibly see Rondo and Westbrook for different reasons. So he might be able to squeak in.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    Rondo has to be above Nash given just how dominant he has been since the AS break

  • Sizzle

    Derrick “I choke on the foul line” Rose

  • Fat Lever

    Allen, I know you’re high on Jrue, but he has regressed this season. He has the offensive skills to be a 18ppg scorer consistently, but far too many times he lacks aggression. As a PG his assist numbers are atrocious, considering he isn’t an aggressive offensive player. I watch every Sixer game and I fully expected him to take over as the primary or one of the top 2 offensive players on the team this year. It was there for the taking, and he let it slip.

    As far as Doug, the way he has handled ET this year and his complete lack of offensive scheme in the 4th Q of close games tells me he is not good at adjusting as the game moves along. Far too many times he has allowed BOSS(Lou Will) to iso to win/tie the game when the other team knows exactly what’s coming. He throws all of the offensive movement he preaches in the beginning of games out the window in the 4th Q. And his record in games decided by 7 points or less, more or less, typifies this.

    Doug has also completely mismanaged Evan Turner, to the point that we’re wondering here if he has a real disdain for him as a person. ET’s strengths are bringing up the ball, initiating the offense, yet Doug doesn’t play to that. He’s the #2 pick, you have to see what you have! At least give ET the opportunity to fail. And god forbid if Evan makes one mistake on the court, he gets yanked. However Jrue can make the same mistakes over and over with no ramifications.

  • http://www.michaeljordansworld.com/statistics/triple_doubles.htm nbk

    Sounds like Doug Collins values defense more than offense.

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    JPriceless21, yes I am saying Iman Shumpert is playing at an NBA All-Defensive Team level.

  • Fat Lever

    And to be honest, if it comes down to Jrue or ET, I’d side with ET, because he has shown flashes of what he’s capable of. I like Jrue, he seems like a good kid, but he disappears from time to time.

  • http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/shotchart?gameId=320404014 Allenp

    Fat Lever
    I actually agree with you completely. On everything you said, particularly about how Collins handled Turner. Don’t forget the Speights debacle too.

  • http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/shotchart?gameId=320404014 Allenp

    I feel like Jrue hasn’t made up his mind what he’s going to be as a point guard. Collins should let Turner be the on ball decision maker and let Jrue be the shot maker/ part-time decision maker. The Harden/Westbrook playbook but with less shooting by Jrue. And they should have traded Igoudla.

  • Fat Lever

    Agreed. Doug should have started ET at point, and told Jrue he’s got the green light to shoot and be aggressive. ET is the only guy on this team that can create offense for others. When the Sixers get into a rut offensively, Doug will leave Jodie Meeks out there to brick 3′s away when you need more of a creator. The Sixers need a young, “outside the box” thinking coach.

  • http://www.reverbnation.com/tray24 T-Ray

    Orange I think for a rookie he is a good defender. He often let’s his man blow by then reaches but Allen keeps his in front of him. But give him a few seasons and he’ll be the best perimeter defender in the league.

  • http://nyill.wordpress.com/ O

    Great win for the Knicks yesterday. Made my m*thaf*ckin weekend! But now with all this talk about Shumpert holding down Rose, you KNOW Rose is going to go out tomorrow night to make a statement. Hopefully Shumpert is able to answer dunn. But true that, had Lebron made all those mistakes that Rose made… it would be the top topic of the day…

  • LA Huey

    co-sign everything O just stated.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    IAFUSCHIA4EVER , you said nothing about Shump making the all-defensive team, you said he’s a better defender than TAllen. Now I agree with former but the former deserves no response.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    *the latter*

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    I am no JTaylor21, but I’d choose Shump in the “blink of an eye” over Tony Allen.

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    ;)

  • http://www.facebook.com/joe.l.brewer3 BlackPhantom

    Shumpert’s a good defender, but you Knicks fans have another thing coming if you think he’s a better defender than Allen or Rondo.

  • Doug

    Woah MeloManTO, that video gave me goosebumps… Slam should post it

  • http://larrybrownsports.com/basketball/lebron-james-played-superb-defense-on-derrick-rose/70485 nbk

    Shumpert is a very good defender. But he’s not in the best perimeter defender in the league conversation yet.

  • http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/shotchart?gameId=320404014 Allenp

    If Melo had shot threes like that for Mike D, he’d still have a job.

  • http://nyill.wordpress.com Enigmatic

    Shump is a great defender, but yeah, he’s not in the “best perimeter defender in the L” convo yet.
    And before you chalk that up to me being a Knicks hater, Orange, keep in mind I was a Shumpert fan since before you knew he existed.
    Rose was rusty, sure, but this is AT LEAST the third time he’s choked at the line in a big game in his career.
    Some cause for concern there.

  • http://www.facebook.com/joe.l.brewer3 BlackPhantom

    Yeah I’d hate to see Rose make that a habit.

  • LA Huey

    Rose is just perfecting what fellow Nick Anderson started. It’s a Chicago thing.

  • http://www.reverbnation.com/tray24 T-Ray

    Rose choking at the line could be a huge problem come playoff time because the play is more physical and he’s a guy that demands a lot of contact near the rim. I find it funny people have hinted on here today that if it were LeBron the conversation would be much different.

  • http://nyill.wordpress.com Enigmatic

    LOL @ LA Huey.
    Even more specifically, it’s a Simeon High School thing.
    Better perimeter defender – Iman Shumpert or Avery Bradley?

  • http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/shotchart?gameId=320404014 Allenp

    Good question.
    I really like Bradley. I might bump him up over Jrue Holiday as far as point guard defenders at this point.
    I like Shumpert too. He reaches a little too much. Then again, his reaching makes offensive players uncomfortable. I can’t really say which one is better. Neither of them is Tony Allen.

  • http://www.reverbnation.com/tray24 T-Ray

    Avery Bradley that guy hawks the hell out of his man.

  • Cool Dude

    lol schumpert better than Trick o Treat Allen. Irrational Knicks fans are funny.

  • bike

    Oh please, if people weren’t making comments about the lack of flack Rose gets for things like this in comparison to LBJ no one else would’ve initiated it. If it was Lebron, who most of ya’ll love to hate on, it would’ve been the first few comments. I find it funny that Enigmatic is the only Rose fan that doesn’t have Rose’s sac in his mouth.

  • DruNyce

    Food for thought. These are words from Rose after the game. Credit to Stephen A. Smith. ‘So what is there to brag about?….’

    “Actually, they can brag a little bit,” said Rose, shockingly. “[The Knicks] know where to get the ball to now. Guys aren’t taking many silly shots. Melo’s at least touching the ball when they come down the court now. They’re running the offense through him and he’s making plays. He’s hitting tough shots, great shots, making the game easy, and he’s getting to the line.

    “I’ve got to take my hat off to Coach Woodson. He’s doing a great job of making sure everyone’s playing hard and playing team basketball. You’ve got to give them credit. They’re playing hard throughout the whole game. They’re a great defensive team now. Especially when they get you playing out of control. But it still comes down to Melo.”

  • http://www.slamonline.com Slick Ric

    Shumpert does not even deserve top ten credit as a defender right now. This is one game after the man came back from a month off. Rose gave him 32 and 10 last time they were in new york. Lebron would be getting criticized more, but isnt he suppose to be the best player in the league? of course he would receive more attention, If you’re suppose to be the best, that’s something you have to deal with, win or lose.

  • http://nyill.wordpress.com Enigmatic

    Yeah, I’d go with Avery Bradley for my question too. I love watching him play on the ball D.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    Give me Shumpert because of his size and strength.

  • T-Money

    I feel like Shump sometimes overextends himself for show andgets beat in the lane. Bradley is just so freaking solid.

  • bike

    Shump long term

  • LA Huey

    I’ll take an “Iman Shumpert” over a guy with just two common first names.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    The other day I saw Bradley turn a point over in a play that results in a foul for 99the percent of players. He reached in perfectly.
    A good defender on the ball is so freaking valuable.

  • ClydeSays

    That Knicks/Bulls game was crazy. Those Melo baskets were good/bad. You know you’re gonna see more ‘hero’ ball from him.

    Celts are coming on strong. Just hope they can keep it up over the next dozen games & the playoffs…

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iF30WneDtQc Datkid

    enigmatic is ABSOLUTELY the only bulls fan that doesn’t have rose’s jock in his mouth… which is why he’s the homie

  • MikeC.

    So Knicks win wasn’t legit because Rose was rusty? Knicks were missing 2 starters.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Slick Ric

    Keyboard tough guys ABSOLUTELY have no heart.

  • Justin G.

    Mike, I don’t think anyone was saying the win wasn’t legit. I just think they’re saying Knicks fans are reading WAY too much into supposedly shutting down Rose considering he was off for a month. AllenP, the only thing I’ll ask about Nash and the other point guards is do you think Westbrook and Rondo could be doing the same thing with that Phoenix team that Nash is doing? It’s debatable to say the least and it certainly doesn’t hurt a guy like Rondo’s or Parker’s case to have the teammates they do. I’ll take Nash over Parker any day, but even today just because of the difference in talent on their respective rosters. The fact that Phoenix is even close to a playoff spot should not be understated. I think if Pop doesn’t win Coach of the Year it’s a travesty too

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Did you make that same argument when Nash had the better talent and was getting smashed by the Spurs?
    People keep praising Nash for having lesser talent but they gave time the same praise when he had better talent and failed.

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