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Wednesday, April 11th, 2012 at 8:30 am  |  176 responses

Post Up: Not So Fast

Chicago takes down the Knicks without DRose, Boston stumps Miami yet again and more.

by Abe Schwadron | @abe_squad

Welcome to the Wednesday morning Post Up. Where else can you digest a 6-pack before 9 o’clock in the morning?

Wizards 93, Magic 85

Your eyes are not deceiving you. My Wizards did in fact beat the Magic, behind career-highs in points (24) and rebounds (13) from Kevin Seraphin who also tied a personal best with 4 blocked shots. Of course, Dwight Howard’s absence made things a bit easier for Kev, but it’s not the Washington’s fault that Howard’s sore back was enough to keep him out—I’m guessing he as just so scared of Seraphin he refused to get dressed. Of the Magic players who did in fact suit up, Jameer Nelson was the best, scoring 19 points and dishing out 7 dimes. But John Wall outplayed him, scoring 15 points an dialing up 7 assists of his own while wreaking havoc on the break and helping his Wiz teammates shoot 50 percent from the floor. Jordan Crawford (21 points) delivered the dagger on a 3-pointer with just over a minute to play, on a pass from—who else—Wall.

Celtics 115, Heat 107

Rajon Rondo had 10+ assists for the 18th straight game, this time finishing with 15 dimes to go with 18 points, and the Celtics overcame a 36-point effort from LeBron James (who added 7 rebounds and 7 assists on the evening) to deal Miami just its fourth home loss of the year. Boston went on a 16-2 run to end the first quarter and Miami gave up 65 first-half points to the Celtics—the most they’ve given up before halftime all year. And even after the Heat got back to within single-digits, the Celtics responded by hitting their first 8 shots of the fourth quarter. Yet again, Dwyane Wade (20 points) cut the Beantown lead to 5 with just over 2 minutes remaining, but Kevin Garnett played the role of closer, putting the finishing touches on his 24-point, 9-rebound night to send the Heat home unhappy campers. Paul Pierce’s 27 points led the Cs, who shot an absolutely insane 61 percent from the field as a team—a season-high.

Cavaliers 103, Bobcats 90

The life of a Bobcats fan has been bad all season, but seeing Luke Walton play 20 minutes, dish out 4 dimes and help ignite a crucial 10-0 run to start the fourth quarter as the Cavaliers took down Charlotte without Kyrie Irving in uniform has to be damn near rock bottom. Not to mention the fact that Lester Hudson led all scorers with 25 points, along with his 8 rebounds and 6 assists. The ‘Cats have now lost 13 straight games, this one while being out-boarded 45 to 32. Gerald Henderson (21 points) and Kemba Walker (20) tried their darndest to get the W, but Corey Maggette had other thoughts (perhaps ping-pong related) as he shot 1-7 and scored 4 points in his rousing 16 minutes.

Sixers 107, Nets 88

It’s not stealing if I’m the guy who wrote it, right? Here goes: Lou Williams, Spencer Hawes and Thaddeus Young came off the bench to spark the Sixers, who snapped a four-game losing streak by beating the Nets in blowout fashion, 107-88. Williams finished with 20 points, eight rebounds and five assists, while Hawes and Young each scored 19 points and grabbed eight boards. The Sixers opened up an 18-point lead in a decisive third quarter during which Williams and Hawes each had eight, and Philadelphia’s lead swelled to as many as 23 in the fourth. Nets forward Kris Humphries finished with a team-high 20 points and 10 rebounds in a losing effort.

Mavericks 110, Kings 100

Win No. 1 without Lamar Odom? Check. The Champs are 32-26 and have shed the weight that was LO, for better or worse. In his absence, Dallas played total team ball, as 6 players finished with double-digit scoring nights, and 10 guys scored at least 7 points. Dirk Nowitzki had the highest total with 15 points, but Shawn Marion’s 14 rebounds (to go with 10 points) were more important—the Matrix terrorized the Kings on the boards with 6 offensive rebounds. Even with DeMarcus Cousins going ham to the tune of 25 points, 18 rebounds, 3 assists and a career-high 6 steals, Sacramento was still outrebounded by a 56 to 40 margin. The Kings have lost 5 in a row, while the Mavs are now just a half-game back of Houston for the 6-seed out West.

Bulls 98, Knicks 86

In a rematch of Sunday’s overtime thriller, which the Knicks won, the Bulls were without Derrick Rose. Luckily, Richard Hamilton was healthy for once—he scored 18 of Chicago’s 25 third-quarter points and finished with 20, plus 5 rebounds and 4 assists. Rip and the hustling Bulls scored 25 second-chance points to just 5 for the Knicks, thanks in large part to 51-33 rebounding advantage. Tyson Chandler was the only man rebounding for the Knicks (15 boards, 10 points) while Carmelo Anthony handled the offense, with 29 points, but got little help from the rest of New York’s roster. Luol Deng scored 19 points and had 10 rebounds, Kyle Korver dropped 14 and the Bulls opened up a full 3-game lead on Miami for the top spot in the East. Oh, and the Knicks bench was atrocious.

Line of the Night: Miami took the L, but Mr. James delivered a tidy 36-7-7 line in defeat.

Dunk of the Night: Plenty of rim wreckage on Tuesday night, but here were the 3 best, according to yours truly—Iggy gets up for the oop, Vinsanity dials up the time machine and LeBron and Wade hook up per usual.

Tonight: ESPN brings you a suddenly imminent Playoff race matchup between the Knicks and Bucks before Warriors-Blazers wraps up their doubleheader. Elsewhere, 9 more games including Clippers-Thunder and Spurs-Lakers.

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  • http://www.slamonline.com Jahmai

    Hopefully last night’s game against the Bulls will blow some of the dust off of the brains of Knicks fans, because some of you were seriously getting a little delusional after a couple of victories, let’s talk when you’re not fighting for the final spot in the playoffs.

  • Justin G.

    You know, watching the Heat/Celtics game a few things jumped out at me. I miss this Kevin Garnett, who for good stretches in the 3rd and 4th really turned back the clock 10 years. He was unstoppable. I still hate Paul Pierce. The Heat really don’t use Bosh enough or properly at all. Hubie Brown had it right that while at one point he was 3-8 on mostly jump shots, it’s where he’s getting his catches that is off. When he finally went down low or took his guy off the dribble they weren’t stopping him either. He needs to be on that block more because he’s also a very good free throw shooter. When the game gets tight and Lebron decides to go one on one at the top of the circle, it’s not good for the Heat. He doesn’t have the moves that a Wade or a Kobe have and we know he’s mostly looking to pass anyway. Bosh gets scores on 3 straight touches down low or mid range, it’s a tight game, and Bosh gets waved out by Lebron so he can try to take Pierce one on one?

  • vtrobot

    seems like there’s no one else who posh plays worse against and not many others who KG plays better against. especially last night. dude couldn’t miss. great game from PP and RR too. nice effort from stiemsma. pretty much everybody.

  • Justin G.

    Now Jahmai, you know that’s not going to happen. Besides, Knicks fans don’t come in here after losses. At least ORANGE doesn’t

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    Boy, that “vaunted” MIA defense sure looked dominant giving up wide open looks after wide open looks to a BOS team that has no business scoring 110+ points on anyone. Anyone still wants to label MIA a great defensive team?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iF30WneDtQc Datkid

    Lebron does not post up enough anymore. and the heat have to get Bosh going off the dribble… some Lebron Bosh pick and roll’s would be nice. and boston killed them whenever they switched. I still can’t believe Bosh let steisma dunk on him SMH

  • Justin G.

    JTaylor, EVERYONE has bad games whether it’s offensively or defensively. They weren’t just hitting the open looks, they were hitting the contested ones as well. Hell, even the Chicago Bulls gave up 109 points to the expansion Toronto Raptors in Toronto’s first year. Would you say the Bulls weren’t a great defensive team because of it? Cosign everything Datkid said as well

  • http://www.twitter.com/hurstysyd Hursty

    I really hope Vince Carter’s airball lay-up is on the nba.com video recap. Hilarious. Took some frustration out with a jam late in the 3rd but.. dude. Lol.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    Justin, how dare you put MIA’s overrated defense in the same sentence as those 90s Bulls’ defense? It’s not just a one-game sample or a two-week sample, it’s going all the way back to the Finals. They are not a great defensive team, they lack the size, discipline and consistency.

  • http://hoopism.com airs

    cosign Jtaylor.
    thats blasphemous, justin. straight blasphemoniousness

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    If nothing too drastic happens in the next week or so, who is going to make the All NBA 1st team? Jtaylor/nbk?

  • Chris

    JTaylor is the biggest Miami Heat Stan ever. Grow up fool, it’s the end of the regular season.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    AllBall, Kobe/LeBron/KD/Love/Howard.

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    Jahmai…you talking ish after the Derrick Rose-less Bulls beat the Knicks at Chicago shows just how NARROW your view is. Last I checked the Knicks roster isn’t exactly full strength either, and as for the Bulls their winning (16-7) about 70 percent of their games this season without Derrick Rose. Bottom line, last night in the 2nd half it was Kyle Korver and Rip who carried the Bulls to their 16th win without Rose this season. THe Knicks just couldn’t get out of the hole they dug themselves in the 2nd quarter…Back to Korver. What got into him? Not only was his jumper wet, but he was finishing on the break, blocking shots and diving on the floor for loose balls and just playing all out. Haven’t really seen that much from Korver. Knicks match up well against the Bulls.

    Note: Since ‘Antoni quit and Woodson became coach this season, the Knicks haven’t lost two games in a row. I look for that trend to continue tonight.

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    *saxophone* The Heat is off! The Heat is off! It’s off the court. Whoo hoooo! The Heat is off! *more saxophone*

  • http://slamonline.com AllBall

    Thanks Jtaylor, what does everyone else see the all nba teams being? I mentioned Jtaylor and nbk because I know they will be around to comment and they watch a lot of games.

  • http://theillustrationboard.tumblr.com/ Stepfan

    Even though they won last night I am still worried for the Bulls. I feel like the organization are being too cautious with Rose. Or is it Rose holding himself back? I don’t know. First the lower back problems,then the groin,then an ankle injury. He’s not going to have any rhythm heading into the playoffs. And lets be honest, as good as this team is defensively they cannot win a title without the reigning MVP. Just a hypothetical question; If the Heat don’t win it all this year…do you break up that team? Who goes? I got a feeling the Heat organization will betray Dwade aka the person who single handedly won you a title in 06.

  • Heals

    Absolutely love what my C’s are doing, BUT it doesn’t mean anything significant (yet). Unless these games can be carried over into the postseason, there’s no need to start planning the parade. Keep grinding and see what happens when the dust settles, but good lawd this squad has a way of doing it that is so PURE…

  • http://www.fiba.com Darksaber

    Man i like that pic above, Bosh with the Kneepads and black uni/goatee combo resembles Zo (if you squint) and KG with the jaw jut and perfect form on his release.
    Would be a great poster.

  • T-Money

    Miami dominated the points in the paint 52-24, shot more free throws than Boston. The Celtics were hitting every jumper last night. I don’t know what to make of that game. Boston definitely found creases in the defense for midrange jumpers, but is that sustainbable in a 7-game series? Can Boston beat Miami by shooting jumpers? Not sure. Maybe.

  • T-Money

    if there is one silver lining for miami, it is that spo is figuring out that you should probably play your best players regardless of positions. the bench players were, in order of playing time: miller, battier, haslem, jones. there is no reason to play anthony or cole at this point.

  • LA Huey

    Cs definitely stunted Wade in the 2nd half and Bosh all game.

  • http://www.yahoo.com The Fury

    @AllBall…the 1st team is way to easy to predict. How bout we talk about the 2nd Team?? ;)

  • LA Huey

    T-Money, I was so happy to see Joel stay on the bench and Norris get yanked after a couple minutes. It’s so nice to know that Turiaf will catch and finish when Bron and Wade dump the ball off from the penetration.

  • http://nba.com GP23

    All NBA 2nd Team:
    Westbrook
    Rondo
    Bynum
    Melo
    Deng
    I’m sure I’m missing somebody??

  • http://www.optimabbc.be Max

    Rondo, TA, LBJ, Ibaka and Dwight?

  • http://www.optimabbc.be Max

    *Defensive team

  • http://nba.com GP23

    All NBA 3rd Team:
    Wade
    Deron/Parker/Paul/Nash (can’t decide)
    Duncan
    Gasol
    Cousins/Griffin/Bosh
    ..My 2nd team is pretty messed up I think

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iF30WneDtQc Datkid

    Hey orange remember that time the heat beat the brakes off the knicks? like twice in a row? just checking.

  • http://www.optimabbc.be Max

    What about Josh Smith

  • http://nba.com GP23

    …and the awards:
    MVP- LeBron James
    MIP- Evan Turner
    ROY- Kyrie Irving
    6th Man- James Harden
    DPOY- Dwight Howard (although this should also be LeBron’s)

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    Datkid, keep talkin up those wins. ;)

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iF30WneDtQc Datkid

    1st team Rose,Kobe,KD,Lebron,Dwight (Wade should be on there instead of kobe but whatever smh)
    2nd team Cp3,wade,melo,love,Bynum
    3rd team Deron, westbrook, Iguodala, Cousins,Duncan

    and nah T-money. you can’t win a series off mid-range jumpers.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iF30WneDtQc Datkid

    I will you. you keep talking up that 1st round exit.
    MAN. I just wanna see the heat with an actual coach, coaching them. Pat Riley, Phil Jackson, Rick Adeleman, Popavich, SOMEBODY

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    How can Rose be 1st Team when he’s missed 1/3rd of the season?

  • http://theillustrationboard.tumblr.com/ Stepfan

    co-MVP-LeBron James/Kevin Durant
    MIP-Marc Gasol
    ROY-Kyrie Irving
    6th Man-James Harden
    DPOY-Serge Ibaka (Dwight could win it every year).

  • http://www.yahoo.com The Fury

    my MIP is Goran Dragic. It’s hard to decide who will be on the 2nd team between Paul/Parker/Westbrook…Rose missed too many games. He won’t even make it at all.

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    Lester Hudsonity!

  • http://www.slamonline.com Jahmai

    Orange, maybe you didn’t read anything on the internet after the Knicks victory over the Bulls but all I saw was people saying how Shumpert was shutting Rose down and too bad he can’t make him dissappear (after Rose missed 12 games and was dealing with an ankle injury in the 2nd half)and Knicks fans would love to play the Bulls in the 1st round like they’re some kind of cakewalk, it was ridiculous. Now the Bulls beat the Knicks by a pretty large margin without Drose who in every way is more valuable (hence the MVP award) than any Knick player on that Knick roster after the Knicks were supposedly declared superior. Maybe YOU didn’t say anything about it, but that’s why I said ‘some of you’(hello). I’m not talking sh*t because you are fighting for a playoff spot in the east (a confernce where the bottom half is anything but strong) and that is a FACT. So don’t tell me I have narrow view when I’m just telling the truth.

  • http://www.yahoo.com The Fury

    Josh Smith will get the Stat Buffer of the Year…yeah I just made that up..lol

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    NOT TO DIRGRESS, but are you all seeing the drama on ESPN First Take unfold? Jalen Rose definitely crossed the line towards a colleague on air. Rose must not want to take paychecks from ESPN anymore. Good luck next season on NBATV, Jalen.

  • http://www.reverbnation.com/tray24 T-Ray

    Allball I’m gonna say Rondo/Kobe/Bron/KD/Love
    I know it seems odd so anyone can ask away lol

  • http://www.slamonline.com Slick Ric

    1st Team:
    TP, Kobe, Lebron, Durant, Dwight
    2nd Team:
    Westbrook, Dwade,J-Smoove, KLove, Bynum
    3rd Team:
    cp3,Rondo,Gay, Griffin, Gasol

  • http://www.slamonline.com megatron

    1st team: wade/kobe/lebron/durant/dwight
    2nd team: Westbrook/Paul/Melo/Love/Bynum
    3rd team: Parker/Rose/Griffin/M.Gasol

    thoughts??

  • http://www.slamonline.com megatron

    I think parker and Paul could easily be switched though

  • http://sl.com Krishan

    Orange, he did that to skip bayless, so maybe give him a raise? On a related note, f(ck skip bayless.

  • http://www.slamonline.com megatron

    I don’t know if my last comment is gonna post or not but I meant to add J.Smith to my third team

  • http://www.reverbnation.com/tray24 T-Ray

    Megatron I’d switch Wade for Parker but I still like your list.

  • http://www.slamonline.com megatron

    i’ve only seen 7 or 8 spurs games so I know TP is playing great but maybe I am slighting him a bit.

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    @Krishan: Like it or not, Skip Bayless is more of an asset to ESPN than Jalen Rose. ESPN can just cut ex-athlete analyst that pull a Jalen out, and bring in another one. Sports stars who finish their career and want a job with ESPN as an analyst are a dime a dozen, no matter who they are “boys” with. Jalen Rose should ask Sean Salisbury what it’s like not working with ESPN anymore…

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Miami is a great defensive team.

  • http://www.reverbnation.com/tray24 T-Ray

    Yea I get ya. I’ve seen a lot of Heat games this year and I just don’t think Wade has been playing consistently to warrant a first team slot.

  • http://www.slamonline.com megatron

    anyone care to elaborate on what Jalen did? I can’t watch skip bayless anymore because he is so infuriating.

  • http://larrybrownsports.com/basketball/lebron-james-played-superb-defense-on-derrick-rose/70485 nbk

    Parker/Westbrook/Wade Bryant James Durant Howard. K Love is screwed by the whole 2G 2F 1C stipulation

  • http://larrybrownsports.com/basketball/lebron-james-played-superb-defense-on-derrick-rose/70485 nbk

    Lakeshow stirring the pot I’m loving it.

  • http://www.reverbnation.com/tray24 T-Ray

    Slam I almost commented as nbk dammit lol but anyway Lakeshow stirring the pot love it. As far as Skip what happened?

  • http://nba.com GP23

    What did Jalen just do on air?

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    Oops….I forgot about that foolish 2Gs/2Fs/1C rule. So I’ll will go with Westbrook/Kobe/LeBron/KD/Howard.
    Lakeshow, the lakers are an athletic team.

  • http://www.nbadraft.net showtime

    1st: Westbrook, kobe(should be dwade),lebron,durant,dwight
    2nd: cp3, dwade, j.smith,k-love( even thou squad is horrible), Bynum( no choice but)
    3rd: rose,t.parker,Rudy.G, gasol, Griffin( excitement factor)

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    That wasn’t me at 11:28. — But Miami obviously didn’t give 100% effort last night. And Boston couldn’t miss anything. Just another game where judging the team as a whole doesn’t make much sense. Miami had a game where they gave up 119 to Houston towards the end of last season. It’s not surprising they aren’t going to be the same defense. Not that they don’t have concerns to worry about, like not giving effort all the time, that sh*t is going to come back to bite them in the ass.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    In no planet in any galaxy is a team consisting of who the Miami Heat have a bad defensive team. Turiaf at Center is going to deal with half the centers in the L just fine. Bosh has been touted as a good defender by pretty much all. Personally I find him to be below average, but some don’t see it that way. Wade and James speak for themselves. At PG they are as well equipped defensively as any other team. Bench of Battier, Haslem, Miller….
    If you want to say that Miami has not become the elite defensive team they should be, I would agree. They have a ton of room to improve, but the pieces are there. You don’t need to have a 7 footer in the paint to be a great defensive team.
    Jalen called out Skip for not playing during his junior year on the varsity team. It’s true. Skips a douche. I think that’s what he gets paid for though…

  • http://www.nbadraft.net showtime

    6th man, its gonna be harden but i see him more of a starter this year. So would but Ojay or Dragic for it cause when either them two come off the bench its problems most nights for the opposition

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    Jalen Rose = Sean Salisbury

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Another issue should be with Spoelstra. Who thinks making going small against Boston who is already going small is somehow going to work. If Kevin Garnett is playing Center, there is no small lineup that is going to capitalize on that Spoelstra. All your doing by putting 3 Shooters, LeBron, and Wade on the court is creating big problems on defense. The offense doesn’t capitalize on their speed advantage because whenever there are a ton of Shooters around LeBron turns into swing the ball sally trying to get his teammates open threes instead of capitalizing on the open paint. That teams propensity to attack seems independent from their coaches decision making. Which is a big problem going forward.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgdwfMwIh5U&feature=related Max

    Click my name for Jalen owning Skip.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    Why do you think that I’m using last night’s game or the past few weeks as the only examples/factors as to why I don’t regard MIA to be a great defensive team? I’ve seen close to 145 MIA games ever since LeBron/Bosh teammed up with Wade to know that they are overrated defensively (in terms of how everyone gloats and raves about their defensive prowess).
    Lack of size, inside rebouding and a true rim protector, Wade’s gambling, Bosh’s softness on the glass, Chalmers tendecy to commit stupid fouls, over-pursuing/over-trapping leading to too many wide open shots and 1 LeBron. Just a few of the things that plague MIA defensively.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    Lake, there you go again making sh*t up on the fly. When did I ever say that MIA was a bad defensive team? Come on son, if you’re going to fabricate sh*t, at least do it in a covert manner.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    What Jalen said to Skip was 100% on point and 100% appropriate.

  • http://www.nbadraft.net showtime

    water pistol pete jr lol…i got use that @ the gym

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Taylor are you aiming that 12:53 at me? I am not saying Miami is historically great (didn’t we have this convo?) but they are “great” compared to the rest of the league. I wouldn’t rave about any of their regular season defense though, I don’t see that as logical.

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    nbk, Jalen didn’t tell the whole story. He made those comments to attack a colleague on air. It was WRONG and not “100% appropriate.” Jalen was totally UNPROFESSIONAL, and I’m not surprised you agree with it… Mmmk… and I almost forgot, have a nice day! :)

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Rebounding shouldn’t be a problem if you have a PF that is as good as Bosh supposedly is. Bron, Wade and Bosh with Turiaf/Haslem should be able to handle the boards against most teams. Miami is tied with the Lakers in Blocks and the Lakers start two 7 footers. I don’t think they lack rim protection at all with Turiaf, Anthony, Bron, Wade. Those guys all protect the rim in some fashion.
    -Orange, maybe to most people it would be wrong, but Skip has proved that there are no boundaries for him.

  • LA Huey

    I missed the Jalen-Skip beef and I don’t get YouTube at work. Can anyone summarize what happened for me? I’d appreciate it.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Oh did he “attack” Skip Bayless by calling out his lie? I’m sorry but I don’t care if he’s a colleague, if Bayless is going to outright lie on-air, and criticize people in a blatantly ignorant fashion then SOMEONE should expose him. It’s ok for Bayless to attack people he doesn’t see face to face on air, but it’s not ok for the TRUTH to be exposed with him their to defend himself? Why because they work for the same company? If someone lies to a customer at my work, and I or someone else finds out about it, not only will that person get called out, they will get fired. I understand Bayless’ job is to get viewers and create drama, so I don’t blame ESPN for keeping the hack on, but it’s completely fine that his colleague (who is there to debate with him in the first place) calls him out. And I 100% don’t give a damn about your opinion of me. Enjoy your day.

  • http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/jalen-rose-calls-skip-bayless-air-trumped-high-214530179.html nbk

    click my name Huey.

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    Imagine how upset Bosh would be if he played for the Knicks? The NY POST would make Bosh think Skip Bayless is his BFF.

  • http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/shotchart?gameId=320404014 Allenp

    Jalen exposed Skip for the lying bastard he is. And he didn’t cross a line. Skip crossed a line when he started calling players out of their names and taking personal shots at them from the safety of his television studio. Not to mention when he called Troy Aikman gay based on anonymous sources.
    Skip is a liar, a coward, and a suspected racist. I believe he regularly makes things up, and he counts on ESPN and his title as a media member to protect him.
    Jalen exposed him as a blowhard who is willing to lie about what he’s accomplished to make himself appear more credible. It’s bogus. That boy was garbage. I can’t stand people who lie about what they’ve accomplished, own up to your own life. If you were a benchwarmer and bum in the sport you played, then admit that. Don’t try to pretend like you were BMOC once you think nobody remembers. Fake suckers.
    Plus, what 60-year old man is still bragging about what he did in high school! Damn shame.

  • LA Huey

    Thanks, nbk. I like that he’s still yapping about Westbrook even after Durant’s response to him about it. Ridiculous. Viewers and players need to stop supporting his presence on that network.
    In other news, John Barry is starting to irritate me.

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    “If someone lies to a customer at my work, and I or someone else finds out about it, not only will that person get called out, they will get fired.” nbk, you are trying too hard to defend Jalen Rose’s for his unprofessional towards a colleague on a live show. I respect Skip Bayless for his lone-wolf philosophy when it comes to covering sports. So how’s your subway franchise going? lol jk

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    *unprofessional actions
    ** So how’s your subway franchise going, nbk? lol jk

  • http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/shotchart?gameId=320404014 Allenp

    Skip Bayless started calling Chris Bosh a woman.
    That’s unprofessional.
    Reminding Skip Bayless that he was a beyond garbage at basketball and needs to fall back when it comes to how he handles his criticism is not crossing the line. Reminding the world that Skip Bayless purposely misrepresented his past while we listen to him offer his opinion on other topics is VERY PROFESSIONAL.
    If a 60-year-old Skip Bayless will lie about his high school career just to buttress a point, what else does he lie about or misrepresent? It goes directly to his credibility, although he only actually had credibility with certain types of folks.

  • http://www.reverbnation.com/tray24 T-Ray

    Cosign the f*ck out of Allenp!

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    Skip Bayless called Chris Bosh a woman? You’re fabricating stuff now Allenp. Hell even Shaq called Chris Bosh the RuPaul of Big Men a while back. I wonder why Chris Bosh at times has been viewed as soft by media and colleagues alike? Hmmm…Could it be most media gets their info from players? Hmmmmmmmmm!

  • http://Roosterteeth.com Caboose

    1st team: Kobe, Parker, Durant, Bron, Dwight
    2nd team: Paul, Wade, Love, Melo, Bynum
    3rd team: Rondo, Westbrook, Deng, Dirk, Gasol
    MVP: Bron
    DPOY: Dwight
    COY: Pop
    MIP: Ryan Anderson
    6th: Harden
    ROY: Kyrie

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    He called him Bosh Spice right to his face.

  • http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/jalen-rose-calls-skip-bayless-air-trumped-high-214530179.html nbk

    Orange you obviously don’t know what is or isn’t professional. Which I guess is obvious considering you are defending a journalist who specializes in publishing lies. And don’t understand why it is perfectly fine for any person, colleague or not, to expose the truth. Under your absolutely stupid line of thinking if an NBC news personality was telling the world frito lays causes knee cancer, it would be unprofessional for a colleague of theirs to say frito lays has never been proven to cause any cancer, specifically knee cancer. You realize that? It’s the same principle.

  • T-Money

    all i have to say is that skip bayless calling someone else out for crossing the line is rich.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    I don’t know if Skip has ever said anything racist. He’s an idiot, and appears to be quite ignorant, and a blatant liar at times, so it wouldn’t surprise me, but none the less can’t recall anything racist he said. I guess it’s borderline to say that he wants Blake Griffin to do well because he’s “white”, but I wouldn’t classify that as racist either. I’m a little more lenient on who and what I deem racist though. I don’t look for racism first in every single situation. Hell, i’m the type of guy who thinks that Thibs is a better defensive coach than Doc. I might be racist for that though alone.
    -LOL nice analogy nbk. I knew Frito’s were bad!

  • http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/shotchart?gameId=320404014 Allenp

    He called him Bosh Spice before he saw him in person. Then he admitted to saying that when Bosh came on the show. And tried to backtrack from what he was saying.
    In case it went over your head, Bosh Spice is a way of calling him a woman and questioning his manhood.
    Shaq is a shady punk too. But at least Shaq called Chris Bosh that while they were playing and on equal terms.
    Skip Bayless is a habitual line crosser. Any one defending his honor is suspect.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    nbk, 12:53 was aimed at you. So you think MIA’s defense is in the same class as BOS’s and CHI’s? Those are the only teams in the L that I consider to be great defensively, so that means you’re putting MIA in the same class as those teams.

  • http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/shotchart?gameId=320404014 Allenp

    Get your facts straight Lakeshow.
    If Doc Rivers gets the blame for the Celtics failures, he should get the credit of their successes. It’s the same way it should work everyone in the NBA.
    If they blame you when things go wrong, they should praise you when things go right. Only, that’s not how it works. Too many people don’t think Doc is a great coach and believe he got lucky and got good talent. They aren’t super impressed with him as far as Xs and Os, although anyone who actually watches games KNOWS he’s awesome at game strategy and motivation.
    Personally, I think Doc Rivers is on that Popovich level as a coach with how he utilizes his players at both ends, how he prepares them and how he handles games. Thibs is a great defensive coach, but other than that, he hasn’t shown himself to be on Doc’s level overall, but I don’t think most people agree with that assessment.

  • http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/jalen-rose-calls-skip-bayless-air-trumped-high-214530179.html nbk

    uhm yes I do. I don’t think Miami is as good as Chicago or Boston, but they are not very far behind. I don’t judge the team based on things that happen in March or April, specifically during this season. If their defense gives up heaps of points in the playoffs then my opinion will change. But I am not going to change my opinion based on games right now, these games matter more to the people watching then to the people playing. Especially to the guys in Miami, who already know they can win a series on the road. Boston just shot 60% and only beat the Heat by eight. There is literally nothing to be concerned about in a potential matchup given Boston can’t shoot that high of a % very often, especially 4 times in 7 games. There are concerns that will rear their head in a series against Chicago (like Spoelstra’s totally questionable substitution patterns, LeBron’s complacent play especially when surrounded by shooters, Dwyane Wade’s on again off again effort level, etc.)

  • LA Huey

    Maybe “Bosh Spice” was a way of calling him out for how alarmingly slender he is and how his brief success in music was more a credit to his gorgeous bone structure and less about his vocal talent. It’s not always that obvious. Except when it is, of course.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Wait… People don’t give Doc credit? What? He has been regarded for many years now as being one of the best coaches in the L. Nearly unanimously thought to be a GREAT coach. Cause he is. He just wasn’t the catalyst of the defense for the Celtics. Thibs is given credit just as Doc is. Get your facts straight.
    I don’t think he is on “that Popavich level.” He doesn’t have the history that Pop has. Just as Pop doesn’t have the history that P-Jax has. I personally don’t think Thibs is as great overall as Doc on the coaching level, but mostly just because he hasn’t ‘proved it’ yet. I don’t know where your getting this idea that people think that Thibs is better than Doc and that Doc is not that great of an X and O coach or whatever. I have literally never heard this before. You must hang around ‘different’ NBA analyst circles than I do.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    I’m one of those people. I’ve always looked at Doc as a great coach/offensive playcaller, those GW, out-of-bounds, after a timeout plays are a thing of beauty. He’s also a master at managing players ego’s and minutes and is one of the best at in-game adjustments.

  • LA Huey

    Xs & Os: I’ll take Pop over PJax.
    Pop can’t touch PJax on managing egos though.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    I do agree with you that defense isn’t the biggest worry/problem but since you don’t judge teams by what they are doing in March/April, how do you explain the way DAL sliced and diced MIA’s vaunted defense during last June’s Finals?

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Talyor, they did that to every team the faced. Dallas was a rolling boulder last year. They just weren’t going to lose. No defense would have changed that without 20×20 hind sight. Celtics and Chi. woulda had the same problems.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    LA, He doesn’t need to when you have someone like TD.

  • http://larrybrownsports.com/basketball/lebron-james-played-superb-defense-on-derrick-rose/70485 nbk

    I also talked about this during our last convo, Miami forces teams to beat them with long jumpers, which is what Dallas specialized in. Plus they were a pretty much unstoppable offensive force last year. I don’t think anyone was going to beat them.

  • LA Huey

    JT, I know. He’s only had to bump heads with Parker but even then, TP probably fell in line as he matured and realized Duncan’s way better and allows Pop to rip him a new one.

  • http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/2009/03/shaqs-nickname-for-chris-bosh-rupaul/ IAMORANGE4EVER

    “I heard what Chris Bosh said, and that’s strong words coming from the RuPaul of big men,” O’Neal said. “I’m going to do the same thing (in their next meeting) I did before – make him quit. Make ‘em quit and complain. It’s what I do.” That insult was lobbed by Shaq due to Chris Bosh having a reputation in the “L” for being a soft big man. As for Skip Bayless calling Chris Bosh by the nickname Bosh Spice, it was clearly over the soft label Chris Bosh had earned at the time. On one hand you have Shaq (a player at the time) comparing Chris Bosh’s game to a transsexual pop singer-songwriter, and on the other hand you have a sports journalist comparing Bosh’s to David Beckham’s wife Victoria Beckham, who was dubbed “Posh Spice” while she was a singer with the all-female pop group Spice Girls. The question I have for you AllenP, is which one of these insults “cuts to the core” of Bosh having a rep as a soft big man in the NBA. Which one is more “perfect,” Allenp? I ask because I just got done reading your comments back on Mach 2nd, 2009 at 12:11 pm.

  • LA Huey

    nbk, well, Miami would have if LeBron would have tried.

  • http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/2009/03/shaqs-nickname-for-chris-bosh-rupaul/ IAMORANGE4EVER

    * “cuts to the core” more

  • http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/jalen-rose-calls-skip-bayless-air-trumped-high-214530179.html nbk

    Man LeBron crumbled, he tried, he just crumbled mentally. Still though, by acting like Miami lost that series rather than acknowledging that Dallas earned their win we are not giving enough credit to Dallas for what they did. That team was a wrecking ball. They swept the defending champs for goodness sake.

  • http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/shotchart?gameId=320404014 Allenp

    Calling a man woman is an insult and is unprofessional for a journalist.
    If you don’t see this, then you don’t want to see it. This has nothing to do with Shaq or what he said.
    Bayless called another man a woman multiple times on television. If your beef is with Jalen being unprofessional, then Bayless is the wrong person to be defending. He has been unprofessional for years.

  • http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/shotchart?gameId=320404014 Allenp

    Doc hasn’t had the sort of teams that Pop or Jackson have had.
    He took the Celtics to the championship the first year of the Big Three and in doing so go two non-defenders to buy in defensively, and made suitable players out of two young players who had massive holes int heir games.
    The next year he loses the heart of his team, and still manages to get some good victories in the regular season in playoffs.
    The next year with his best player still hobbled, he gets to the Finals despite a lackluster regular season and is a Kendrick Perkins injury away from another ring.
    He motivated that ridiculously untalented Orlando team to compete for a playoff spot back in the day with Darrell Armstrong as his best player.
    I don’t understand how you keep giving credit to a man who no longer coaches a team. Thibs has been gone for a while now. The Celtics still play great defense. That means Doc has to hold them accountable and make adjustments. Hell, who played better defense against the Heat, Chicago or Boston?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVFSfRVzQ8s nbk

    Boston right now (well since they switched KG over to Center), is playing better defense then they ever did under Tom Thibodeau. I mean that has a lot to do with Garnett and Avery Bradley, but still that is something too consider. Plus, Doc Rivers is a genius at drawing up a play, he’s the best “out of a timeout” coach in the league. Which I think speaks volumes for his basketball IQ and ability to read a situation… Doc is a top 5 coach in the league.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    LeBron didn’t try. He had the same look/demeanor at times during that series he had during the GM5 debacle against BOS in ’10. When LeBron is “trying” he’s attaking the rim and getting to the Line (he only attempted 20FTAs during that 6gm series).

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Yeah he did do that with Orlando. Yeah Celtics are still a great defensive team. Yes everyone agrees, Doc=Great Coach. Your the only one I have ever seen to say that people say he isn’t. Do you have an article or comment someone posted negating Doc for the amazing coach he is?
    Oh and please everyone, never say that the Celtics were a Perkins injury away from a championship. STFU. Celtics lost fair and square. We don’t know what the outcome would have been either way. Your not going to see me on here always claiming that if the Lakers only had a healthy Bynum over the past 5 years they would have a 4-Peat right now… Celtics lost that year, Lakers won. Like the Mavs won last year. No need to downgrade an accomplishment because your not a fan of a team or player.

  • ALD

    Until the heat fix their pick n roll defense, their championships dream will remain dreams. With the fact that on offense wade and lebron look at eachother to see who makes a move… What is wron with Coach Spo?

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    What makes you say that nbk? As far as the Celts being better defensively now than ever before? That I don’t go for. Not because of Thibs not being there, but these dudes are much older now and aren’t nearly as spry as they were a few years ago and they were playing some of the best defense I had ever seen a couple years back. Perk isn’t a huge loss, but he did clog th emiddle well for them. Celtics D, 07-09 > 10-12 IMO

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Taylor your saying Bron gave up in the finals??! Whoa man. Not sure about that. I have more faith than that in dude. No way. No NBA legend gives up in the Finals.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVFSfRVzQ8s nbk

    LeBron over thought the situation. It was purely a mental implosion. Trying to force the issue was not going to change how he was playing. He was trying, he just didn’t know what to do. our definition of trying is just different, I know he wasn’t doing what he normally does or should have been, but that doesn’t mean he wasn’t trying to figure out how to. I don’t think he just gave up and said “f*ck it” – he genuinely just didn’t know what to do.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    Chicago played better D because Wade/Bron went off against BOS while Bosh struggled. Against CHI, Wade struggled immensely while Bron and Bosh excelled.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    nbk, everything you said about Doc at 3:21 is pretty much indisputable fact. Does anyone on here not think Doc is a great coach and a top 5 in the L right now? Taking a poll here, cause i’m pretty sure everyone agrees he is.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVFSfRVzQ8s nbk

    : When Bradley and Garnett play together, Boston gives up 88.8 points per 100 possessions, allows 38.8 percent shooting and forces nearly one turnover for every assist.
    : When Rondo and Bradley play together, opponents average 82.2 points per 100 possessions. That’s nearly 20 points below the league average.
    espn.**.***/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/40441/avery-bradley-matters-now

  • ALD

    @Jtaylor how did lebron not try? Not trying is one of the most overused phrases in sports. If he ‘s not trying why is he playing. Lebron lost confidence and is was seen everywhere. He teamed up with dwade and bosh to win and probably take less shots most nights. Plus nobody is giving defenses credit anymore , Lebron is great but he is not Unstopable.

  • http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/2009/03/shaqs-nickname-for-chris-bosh-rupaul/ IAMORANGE4EVER

    Dear nbk, YOU are the LAST person on SLAM to tell anyone whether they know what is or isn’t professional. Why? YOUR actions here at SLAM have shown you yourself are NOT a professional. You are a wannabe hoops journalist here at SLAM who tends to lose his cool with those who don’t play by his rules in his little mental sandbox….As for me, I’m just here for fun/entertainment. I love the NBA and discussing hoops with my fellow hoops junkies. If someone says something I disagree with, I agree to disagree without being disagreeable. It’s that easy!

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    Lake, I wouldn’t go that far but he wet the bed worse than my 3rd old nephew in the Finals. There’s no other way to explain just what the hell he was doing/thinking out there. How can you go from dominating 2 of the best defenses in the NBA to struggling and playing hot potato with the rock while guarded by JKidd and JJ Barea? That has to be the biggest unsolved mystery since Chappelle walked away from 50 mill.

  • ALD

    lol calm down Stephen A

  • http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/2009/03/shaqs-nickname-for-chris-bosh-rupaul/ IAMORANGE4EVER

    Allenp, you said “calling a man woman is an insult and is unprofessional for a journalist,” Where did Skip Bayless call Chris Bosh a woman? He gave him the nickname Bosh Spice because he played soft as a big man. Did he call him Bosh Spice during the playoff last year? Nope. Now that Shaq

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    LOL Taylor. That’s more how I see it also.
    -Orange, nice. Mental sandbox… I like that.
    So no one doesn’t think Doc is a great coach? Okay, debate settled.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVFSfRVzQ8s nbk

    I want to be a journalist? This website has something to do with my profession? I don’t just like arguing with people? Thanks for letting me know buttercup. You fun having mental giant you.

  • LA Huey

    Perkins getting injured in the Finals was just karma from the Basketball Gods. If you recall, he was 1 technical foul away from a suspension. Perk made a deal with the devil to transplant his personality and the Gods were aware.

  • http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/2009/03/shaqs-nickname-for-chris-bosh-rupaul/ IAMORANGE4EVER

    Allenp, you said “calling a man woman is an insult and is unprofessional for a journalist,” When did Skip Bayless say Chris Bosh was in fact a woman? He gave him the nickname “Bosh Spice” because he played soft. Posh Spice…Bosh Spice. It was funny. Just as funny as RuPaul. The difference between Shaq and Skip is Skip gave Bosh his props last year in the playoffs and didn’t call him Bosh Spice anymore. Riles should put Skip on the payroll man…lol. Skip even met Bosh face to face on First Take! Shaq, who played the game, and is now in sports media with TNT, still is disrespecting Bosh by calling the Heat the “Big 2.” LMAO

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-talk/2011 Diesel

    nbk – So you’re entire basis for saying the Boston Celtics are a better defensive team now is rooted in convoluted statistics that average out per 100 possessions a scenario that rarely happens? Avery has been starting for like what, 10 games now? And him and KG are on the floor together for like 15 minutes total…and you have the nerve to average those statistics out across 100 possessions and try to compare them against season averages of the entire team while Thibs was the assistant coach? That’s a hell of a reach.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Diesel bringing the common sense on these days.

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-talk/2011 Diesel

    When Doc coached at Orlando, he never got out of the first round of the playoffs. In fact they epically collapsed in 2003 after being up 3 games to 1 in the first round of the playoffs and eventually lost to the Pistons in 7. When he moved to Boston, he underachieved with a decent team. Then finally he was graced with 3 hall of famers and Tom Thibodeau as an assistant coach. Even as he coached the Celtics to the championship in 2008, it took them a record setting number of games to do so, with far and away the most talented roster in the league. And all through that run, the defense was winning them games…they beat the Cavs averaging 84 points per game and the Pistons averaging 91 points per game. I use these examples to show that Doc is nowhere near Pop’s level. Pop has won championships with teams less talented than the 2009 – 2011 Celtics. I 100% agree though that Doc is a good coach and top 3 or 4 in the league now.

  • http://larrybrownsports.com/basketball/lebron-james-played-superb-defense-on-derrick-rose/70485 nbk

    Him and KG have played 656 minutes together. And no my opinion is not solely based on stats. But If I didn’t use stats to illustrate my opinion I would be just telling a story. Stats are nice because they are supporting proof of something

  • http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/shotchart?gameId=320404014 Allenp

    Like I said, calling him Bosh Spice is calling him a woman.
    He’s calling him a Spice Girl.
    First of all, it’s unprofessional for a journalist to be running around insulting people and calling them names. Second, it’s unprofessional to compare a man to a woman as an insult.
    If you don’t think Bosh Spice was a way of calling Bosh a woman, then there is really nothing to discuss. Like I said earlier, you don’t want to see it. Fine.

  • http://larrybrownsports.com/basketball/lebron-james-played-superb-defense-on-derrick-rose/70485 nbk

    And I didn’t say they are a better overall defense then the teams Thibs coached, I said right now, since KG moved to Center, showing Rivers has the ability to make productive adjustments even defensively. Way to take my comment out of context though.

  • http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/shotchart?gameId=320404014 Allenp

    Popovich has never won a championship without Tim Duncan at full strength.
    Ever.
    Garnett has been the most important and arguably best player on the Celtics team his entire tenure.
    Garnett was fully healthy one year, they one a championship. He was injured and recovering from that injury the next two years. The got to the second round without him and got the Finals with him playing on one leg.
    Last year, the lost in the second round to Miami after Rondo dislocated his elbow or whatever he did.
    The same year, Popovich lost in the first round to Memphis. Despite having his core together, Pop hasn’t been to the Finals since 2007.
    As for epic collapses, have you pulled the roster on that Orlando team that lost to Detroit? Did you check the figures on what everyone outside of McGrady averaged? The fact that they were up 3-1, which tied directly to Detroit’s unwillingness to double and triple team McGrady until later in the series was a testament to both McGrady and Doc. Drew Gooden was the second leading scorer on that team in the playoffs!
    Look at the roster starting in 1999. Consider that roster and the fact that his team was never below .500. Check out the defensive ratings for those teams, it’s all available on basketball reference.
    Explain how those early Boston teams underachieved? Underachieved based on what metric?

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    I don’t think Diesel was calling you out nbk, just saying that that is a sample size compared to entire portions we have seen. Obviously Doc at least recognizes defensive talent. Other coaches wouldn’t care if they had Thibs on their bench they would just do things their way. So he’s obviously a smart cat by utilizing Thibs and also keeping some of the ideas that he helped him implement with the team.

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-talk/2011 Diesel

    I’m not saying don’t use stats, but to average out stats per 100 possessions like that is a stretch.

  • http://larrybrownsports.com/basketball/lebron-james-played-superb-defense-on-derrick-rose/70485 nbk

    100 possessions is an average game.

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-talk/2011 Diesel

    I’m not taking your comment out of context, I’m just saying its a stretch to average out across 100 possessions something like “when 2 guys are on the court together”. That’s like taking the bench player that goes all out for the 4 minutes he’s on the floor and grabs 4 rebounds…you can’t say per 48 minutes, this dude would average 48 rebounds a game.

  • Old Long Johnson

    celtics were a perkins injury away from another ring.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Lakers were a Bynum injury away from a 4 peat.

  • http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/2011/12/mark-cuban-expects-an-openly-gay-nba-player-within-3-5-years/ IAMORANGE4EVER

    @LakeShow, thanks man, lol. :) @AllenP I have no horse in this race. I see what was said. I never came to the conclusion Skip Bayless was saying Chris Bosh was a woman or questioning his sexuality. Skip’s nickname was all about Chris Bosh the NBA player, not the person. Skip was not questioning Chris Bosh’s sexuality ala nbk insinuating Richard Jefferson is bisexual last December 19th at 4:31pm. Click my name, and search for nbk’s comment. Just because nbk ended his comment with “nothing too “confirm” it though” doesn’t make it any less personal/professional. nbk came off more unprofessional/personal than Skip Bayless calling Chris Bosh by the nickname Bosh Spice. I respect Skip Bayless, because he puts himself out there, and meets those he criticizes in sports face-to-face. He doesn’t just hide behind his keyboard or microphone. Skip’s a man, he’s 60! Shout out to Mike Gundy for that.

  • http://www.facebook.com/joe.l.brewer3 BlackPhantom

    I’m kinda shocked guys on ESPN.com are literally talking sh*t about J.Rose in Skip’s defense. It’s pretty pathetic.

  • http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/2011/12/mark-cuban-expects-an-openly-gay-nba-player-within-3-5-years/ IAMORANGE4EVER

    Lakers winning it all this year LakeShow?

  • http://www.facebook.com/joe.l.brewer3 BlackPhantom

    F*ck no….I’ll tell you that now. Kobe would have to play one of the greatest Post-seasons of all-time for us to win.

  • http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/shotchart?gameId=320404014 Allenp

    NBK isn’t a journalist. It’s no unprofessional, it’s disrespectful when a regular person does it.
    As a journalist, you should be lying to make yourself look better, and you shouldn’t be lobbing personal insults at dude’s that revolve around their sexuality. You just shouldn’t.
    I can’t explain this any other way. That’s not acceptable behavior. It’s not professional. That’s Media Ethics 101

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Uhh, duhhh Orange. Knicks vs Lakers Finals of course…

  • http://larrybrownsports.com/basketball/lebron-james-played-superb-defense-on-derrick-rose/70485 nbk

    Orange you realize I’m a commenter on the Internet right? I don’t get paid for what I say. All of what I say is opinion, and millions of people don’t read what I say or watch me give my opinion. There is nothing professional involved with my Slam name nbk and it relates in absolutely no way to my career. I can lie and lie and lie on here (which I don’t do but regardless) it isn’t going to influence the thoughts and opinions of an entire nation of people. If Skip Bayless is going to be on the most popular sports channel in the country lying to his customers then it’s completely appropriate for another professional in the same field to set the story straight. You can waste time sifting through all the comments I have ever made on slamonline, I’m sure you can find something more unprofessional then my Richard Jefferson comment, but it really just doesn’t prove anything. I’ve already told you I don’t give a sh*t how I’m perceived by anyone here, this is nothing more than a place I express my opinion and argue nothing professional to even care about. So keep proving I am not a professional while you defend a proven liar. That sounds like a lot of entertainment and fun. And it’s not pointless at all

  • http://larrybrownsports.com/basketball/lebron-james-played-superb-defense-on-derrick-rose/70485 nbk

    And you can go back and read what I said about Richard Jefferson, I didn’t insult him. I said what I had heard about him and told a story that I found funny, that really had nothing to do with his sexuality and I inappropriately linked the two together. It was wrong, but ultimately it was just a mistake I made that doesnt really affect anything.

  • http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/shotchart?gameId=320404014 Allenp

    sorry, should not be lying. I’ve been having typo issues today.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Really BP, you don’t think the Lakers have a chance to win the chip this year? I’m not expecting you to be delusional, but really, you give them ZERO chance?

  • http://www.facebook.com/joe.l.brewer3 BlackPhantom

    Somebody is really defending Skip Bayless? That’s almost as stupid as defending George Zimmerman.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVFSfRVzQ8s nbk

    Diesel, my comment was just showing that Doc Rivers should get at least some credit as a good defensive coach. Showing per 48 minutes or per 100 possessions is not misleading or a stretch, how many games has KG been playing Center? Him and Bradley have played 656 minutes together, with is 13.67 games (or 1,300 possessions), enough for me to use the statistic as supporting evidence to my opinion, that the Celtics lately have been playing better defense then they have at any point under Thibs. That’s not too say they will keep this up, or it will translate to the post season, it just shows that Doc Rivers deserves more credit. It’s no more complicated then that.

  • http://deadspin.com/5900701/jalen-rose-called-out-skip-baylesss-high-school-hoops-fantasy-and-bayless-confessed IAMORANGE4EVER

    Alright fellas…I am just going to show a few comments I read over at DEADSPIN right now that made me chuckle: 1.) “I want to buy Jalen a beer. And drive him home of course.” AND “Bayless should have countered by asking Rose if point one four was his BAC in July.” THEN “Wait till Jalen finds out that Skip used to have to run home to take s/hit breaks.” FINALLY a real knee slapper…*drumroll* “Skip Playless”

  • http://www.facebook.com/joe.l.brewer3 BlackPhantom

    I give them a 15-30% chance of winning the chip.

  • http://Roosterteeth.com Caboose

    Chip chances:
    Heat: 28%
    Spurs: 21%
    Bulls: 19%
    Thunder: 10%
    Lakers: 6%
    Grizzlies: 6%
    Magic: 3%
    Celtics: 2%
    Clippers: 2%
    Pacers: 1%
    Hawks: 1%
    Anybody Else: 1%

  • Rainman

    holy sh*t u guys argue too much lol

  • http://sportsbybrooks.com/boxscores-never-lie-or-exaggerate-on-twitter-30011 Allenp

    Click on my name for the box score from the game Bayless supposedly started in.
    Ok homie. Sure.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    What happened between Rose and Bayless? I can only find a video that was uploaded in 2010… Can anyone brief me?

  • http://Roosterteeth.com Caboose

    Teddy: I think Max linked the video earlier in this post up.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVFSfRVzQ8s nbk

    Teddy go to where I told Huey to click my name.

  • http://nyill.wordpress.com Enigmatic

    LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  • http://chicagotribune.com Diesel

    nbk – I’m too lazy to do the work, but I’m almost positive if you run the numbers on every two person pairing possibility from those thibs teams, per 100 possessions, you’ll find at least one pairing with better defensive stats than kg and avery in these past 13 games…cumulated across 2 years.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Those look like zero’s Allen. Would I be correct?
    Fair BP, just wanted to make sure the Laker alumni hadn’t given up all hope just because of a little drama and coach change up.
    -What up Enig, good ole Slam eh?

  • http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/40441/avery-bradley-matters-now nbk

    I doubt it. Not a pairing that have played that many minutes together. I don’t think you are realizing what 88 Points per 100 Possessions means in terms of a defense. (For example, the best defense in the league in terms of points allowed is Philadelphia, who give up 98.3 points per 100 possessions, which is 10 points higher then any lineup that features Garnett and Bradley this season) You can click my name for the story I got the stat from. And again, the point isn’t about them being the best defensive pairing in the world, it’s just about Doc Rivers as a coach. I don’t even know what you are trying to prove.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    ah ty fellas.

  • logues

    how come noone is talking bout kg’s game last night?? he is playin awesome lately. and i know that all nba players complain alot, but i cant even stand watching bron and wade play anymore cuz they complain after EVERY call, esp wade… he has officially passed kobe as the biggest baby in the league. i used to love wade but he’s turned into a huge whiner. like when rondo pulled dwades move on him and jumped into him and got the foul. i had to laugh cuz wade cried like a little baby and the funny thing is wade has pulled that same move off countless times and got the call

  • http://Roosterteeth.com Caboose

    Let’s say this: there’s tier 1A and 1B for coaches. 1A includes Pop, PJax, Riley, and maybe Sloan (maybe). 1B contains Doc, Adelman, Thibs, Carlisle and maybe SVG. All are excellent coaches, but there is a tiny layer of difference there. Compare to the Ivy League schools. Brown, Penn, and Columbia are all incredible, but Harvard, Princeton, and Yale are all on a slightly different level.

  • http://Roosterteeth.com Caboose

    Mike Brown is University of Phoenix.

  • LA Huey

    logues, about that specific call. Yeah, Wade has pulled that moves countless times in the past. And it was a foul on the defense back then. This year, they change the rule that the offensive player can’t jump INTO the defender on a jump shot like that. Both players are allowed to jump straight up.

  • http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/40441/avery-bradley-matters-now nbk

    That’s a really good analogy Huey. I don’t think Sloan is in the top tier all-time though. But that’s irrelevant, good analogy.

  • http://Roosterteeth.com Caboose

    Psst: my analogy, not Huey’s…

  • http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/40441/avery-bradley-matters-now nbk

    Haha Huey was the last comment I read. My bad Caboose. Good analogy.

  • LA Huey

    Too late. I already cashed that credit. Next time, Caboose. Next time.

  • http://Roosterteeth.com Caboose

    I feel cheated. I get credit for knowing defensive jumping rules then.

  • BostonBaller

    MVP-Kevin Durant, LBJ & KB close 2nd
    MIP-Marc Gasol
    ROY-Kyrie Irving
    6th Man-James Harden
    DPOY-Serge Ibaka (LBJ is a beast on the come from behind blocks but SI is just beastly)
    I agree w/Allenp Posted: Apr.11 at 3:11 pm. BTW, PP is still ball’n regardless of what haters say. I guess that clutch lefty layup w/Out pushing off was just luck….

  • BostonBaller

    Forget the Wade no call..RR jumped into him.. What about LBJ’s no call on the travel, they said he took 3 steps but it was actually a looong 4 steps. lol. That was so blatant that I had to laugh at it.

  • trueballer4life

    THE HEAT WILL TURN ON COME PLAYOFFS!..

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