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Monday, April 23rd, 2012 at 9:40 am  |  55 responses

Report: Derrick Rose Unhappy With Bulls’ Treatment Of His Injured Ankle


According to CSN Chicago, the Bulls’ supertar point guard is less than pleased with the way the Bulls’ medical staff dealt with his troublesome right ankle: “The All-Star point guard is also troubled by the lack of attentiveness to concerns he’s raised to the Bulls, a member of his camp told said. Among those issues is the fact that Rose’s most recent ailments-a sprained right ankle and sore right foot-were exacerbated by the team’s training staff’s insistence on taping his ankles, a practice Rose has consistently fought against, opting instead for ankle braces. First reported during the nationally-televised broadcast of the Bulls’ Thursday-evening loss at Miami, Rose has suffered fluid build-up in his ankles, which the player himself acknowledged before the team’s Wednesday morning shootaround in Charlotte, but the cause is reportedly his ankles being taped too tightly. That information was confirmed to CSNChicago.com by a source familiar with the situation, but when asked about the report following Thursday’s loss to the Heat, [Tom] Thibodeau replied, ‘I haven’t heard that. I don’t know where this stuff comes from. We’ve got a great medical staff, I can tell you that.’”

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  • http://www.slamonline.com spit hot fiyah

    look at the bright side d rose, u could be in portland

  • http://www.slamonline.com Cheryl

    ^on the other hand, he could be in Phoenix.

  • JMM

    ^on that same hand, he’d be in Phoenix.

  • Geoff

    ^On the right foot, he could be in Orlando.

  • Sheed

    ^on the other hand, I don’t get this joke

  • http://twitter.com/niyosimba niyosimba

    DRose stays grumpy.

  • bike

    DRose alsways seems to be unhappy about something these days. Must be hell being the current MVP.

  • Fresh Boirdee

    He just wants to play and win

  • Rainman

    Damn, i missed input on the joke. Anyways, does this remind anyone of how the Detroit Pistons treated Grant Hill’s injuries? …lets hope not…

  • smoove

    i dont know where people get off saying that this kid is humble…they must mean HE USED TO BE..because ever since that new max contract, he has nothing but complaints, a true premadonna…whats next he wants a love-seat on the bench instead of foldout chairs..gimmie a break

  • Drig

    @Rainman……that was the first thought that struck my mind too.

  • MUBWAR

    well a 93 million extension and a 200 million contract from Adidas would make jesus and mohamed insolent.

  • http://www.slamonline.com spit hot fiyah

    @mubwar what do u mean by that? if it means what is apparent u should repent because that is insulting two Messengers according to Islam, assuming you r muslim, u did drop your real name on here once so i’m going of that

  • http://www.michaelcho.com M Cho

    Grant Hill’s injury is on another level, I think. It was broken, not a sprain. But this reminds me of Steph Curry’s injury. Hope both those guys recover fully and not have this linger throughout their careers.

  • MUBWAR

    well spit im muslim n that was a joke. But all i’m saying is nobody expects someone in Rose’s position to be humble.

  • Nails

    I’ve always said that DRose was a better Allen Iverson. I think they have a similar offensive game. However DRose is bigger and a better athlete, and a better passer. I feel like he also has his stubbornness as well though.
    Iverson was a warrior but that toughness came back to bite hm in the but when his body started breaking down. I think DRose’s competitiveness will drive him to make foolish decisions sometimes. Unlike some other premaddonas in the league I think DRose’s complaints come from a deep desire to WIN, but he needs to do things smart as well or he could end up just like AI.

    As far as the ankle injury goes, if it is true I would be firing that medical staff. I mean rolled ankles? Are you serious? Do your job.

  • smoove

    ^^ Iverson > Drose

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    Mubwar’s comment reminds of Seinfeld’s “Anti-Dentite” episode.

  • http://www.slamonline.com spit hot fiyah

    @mubwar i understand, it is still impermissible according to islam to joke about Profets in insulting ways

  • http://www.slamonline.com spit hot fiyah

    just trying to look out for u bro

  • http://www.slamonline.com Red

    I’m Muslim too & that was a got damned idiotic ‘joke’ I agree with Spit. Except where he said ‘profets’ I can’t co-sign misspelling that bad. But I think D Rose is saying we need to update our med staff. I don’t think we’ve upgraded them since he joined we need to get state of the art stuffs & thingies.

  • AsadSaleh3

    Let’s be smart about this. Iverson was a two guard, Derrick is a point guard, regardless of what basketball traditionalists say or think. Derrick didn’t start scoring at will until he was asked to in high school. Iverson was always a scorer first and last. Iverson didn’t work on his game so when his speed began to leave him, he lost his place in the league. Derrick went from maybe being a top 10 PG in his second season to being the MVP and a top 3 PG in his third season through hard work. The humble talk around him is something that people will just have to live with whether they like it or not. I fail to see how he’s changed since he signed those new contracts or how he’s become a “premadonna”. The man is asked questions, he answers them truthfully. Some people really reach for things to knock this guy about. If you want a new diva, Dwight Howard is the only guy you should be talking about.

  • MUBWAR

    well i apologize if my comments hurt some of you, it was not intended.

  • AsadSaleh3

    How screwed up are we if we are actually tired of hearing about a good guy? So much so that we just have to find something negative to say about him even when he hasn’t given anyone any good reason to say such a thing. Strange society.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Red

    Asad, shut up. He was a score first point guard in high school. He became MVP because of his scoring, he isn’t a pure PG he’s much like AI.

  • AsadSaleh3

    @Red, “Shut up” is a very mature thing to say. Very kid-like just like every other comment you’ve put on here. You’ve shown yourself time and time again to not be too smart when it comes to basketball. Your comments are now completely irrelevant to me and should be to any other self-respecting knowledgeable basketball mind on this site.

  • AsadSaleh3

    How stupid are you if you could not see that Iverson was a two guard? Larry Brown rightly moved him to the 2 when he took over during AI’s second season. He had no business playing PG full-time. Rose is a score-first PG now, hasn’t always been that way. Do your research people. So if Iverson was a 2, which he was, and Rose is a PG, which he is, other than being fast, having great crossover dribbles and being able to score in the lane, those two have nothing else in common on the court. Rose is 3 or 4 inches taller, 30 pounds heavier.

  • LA Huey

    If I’m a Bulls fan, I’d want him to skip London this summer.

  • http://www.slamonline.com spit hot fiyah

    red my bad it’s Profet in my language as opposed to Prophet, just habitual

  • 1tail

    Who cares what position iverson played!!! D rose is no where near him!!!! Iverson was a movement! Wow, don’t let now cloud was.

  • http://www.andywhitby.com Andy Whitby

    I’ve turned my ankle playing in his shoes, don’t like the solid chunky soles at the side , very easy to role

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Iverson was a point guard just as much as he was a two guard.
    Larry Brown was the only coach that played him exclusively at the two guard spot to be honest. Get your history up.

  • Ldub

    DRose states he would prefer braces of tape (which is how he’s always felt). Medical staff tapes his ankles anyways and now he has fluid from taping too tightly. I would be pissed too. Regardless of my contract or endorsements…I love playing the game. He has alread had an injury tormented season. If you are trusting someone to get you back on the court and they mess up…its gonna send irritation and frustration through your veins. A lot of the media are requested to ask questions where the answers will create a “story”. DRose should continue to speak the truth. He hasnt done anything wrong but voice his opinion. He didnt name names, he didnt throw anyone under the bus (D12). He wants to win and that is why he has been blessed with a nice contract and endorsement deals!

  • Ldub

    Any small player that handles the rock is gonna have criticism if they shoot first. Lets put into perspective that if AI didnt shoot first and carry the scoring load the Sixers wouldnt have gotten anywhere. Was he going to pass to Tyrone “someone uppercut me and my face got stuck” Hill? Aaron Mckie, Snow, Geiger, Larry Hughes? Scoring PGs seem to be frowned upon which I dont understand. If you can put the ball in the hoop just as effective as say a 6’7 guard….why not? But then again thats why I guess he is the best little man (IMO) to ever lace’m up!

  • AsadSaleh3

    Larry Brown played AI at the two guard and at their peak, they reached the Finals. When he was playing at the point after Eric Snow left, they never got past the 2nd round. Coach Brown knew what he was doing in my opinion. Iverson’s rightful position was shooting guard.

  • LA Huey

    Ldub, I agree with you there. I don’t get why more taller perimeter players coming up don’t try to expand their game to become distributors. I mean, there are so many small guards with scoring mindsets, an SG that can run an offense and distribute the ball would make himself a very valuable commodity.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Or the team had much less talent after they got to the Finals and a bunch of overpaid role players.
    Coach Brown moved Iverson to the two because he didn’t play point the way Brown wanted him to play it, not because he couldn’t do it.
    Brown built a team for the short term, sacrificed young talent, and the team collapsed early because it. It’s Brown’s MO at every spot he’s been in.

  • LA Huey

    I do find it interesting for as much credit Larry Brown is given in media circles for being a “teacher”, he seems to have no patience for young players.

  • G money

    Derrick Rose is better than AI. Period. By the way, they do have much more in common. A score first PG is basically a shooting guard in the point position. Thats why people compare GUARDS to other GUARDS. MJ, D Rose, AI, Kobe. ALL GAURDS! AI and Derrick Rose do have the same play style, don’t be a dummy because you think you know it all. You don’t. Derrick Rose has the potential to be the best guard since MJ, but he doesn’t have the team like Kobe did, but he does have one better than AI. Therefore, D Rose is greater than AI. You might want to argue with the people who compare leChoke to MJ. At least they played two different roles.

  • AsadSaleh3

    Iverson was moved to the 2 because he was a pure scorer. How many pure scorers routinely play PG? A lot can be said about Larry Brown, but he is a smart coach. Iverson at the point would make it extremely hard for his teammates to ever get involved in the game. Moving him to the two allowed him to move and come off screens which gave him ample scoring opportunities. Brown ended up moving every player except Iverson when he got there. If Iverson was really a PG, Jerry Stackhouse could have stayed in Philly and they could have played together. He played the two in Denver as well and that’s the only reason why he and Melo had no problem playing together. And much less talent? Talent wise, I’d take young Iguodala, old Chris Webber, young John Salmons, Dalembert and Korver over Snow, McKie, Lynch, and Tyrone Hill. Mutombo was the second best player on that 2001 Finals team, that’s a huge dropoff from the best player to second best. That team made it to the Finals not because of talent. Iverson’s scoring, their team defense, his teammates not needing the ball at all and the relatively weak Eastern Conference were all reasons why they made it to the Finals.

  • Ldub

    Bottom line is, regardless of the size or capabilities, AI made a name for himself by shaking the sh*t outta people and driving into the trees and carving his name in them. His size or lack there of fit the description of a pass first PG, but because his mindset said he was just as good, scoring as Kobe, MJ, Shaq, etc….he was frowned upon. All those guys had players (Iversons size) that would give them the ball. If AI played like nash, cp3, rondo etc, where would the Sixers have gone while he was there? You can argue that the team was molded around AI’s offensive skills, but still w/o him droppin 30+ a night…they wouldnt be EC champs. Regardless of how “weak” the east was. You still gotta go out there and get it down just like any other bball league!

  • AsadSaleh3

    I’m well aware of AI’s game and his accomplishments, he’s my favorite all-time player. What he did is unmatched given his size, but that’s not up for discussion. The main point is that Derrick Rose and AI are not the same kind of player. Regardless of size, AI was a two guard. We all know the Sixers needed AI’s scoring, but there was really nothing else he could do consistently well outside of scoring which is why the team was built around him by Larry Brown, Billy King and Pat Croce.

  • titanic

    @asad “there was really nothing else he could do consistently well outside of scoring.” That statement does not equal an Allen Iverson nor a knowledgeable sports fan. Iverson averages 6+ assists per game for his career. He led the league in steals for 3 straight seasons. what is wrong with you? you have no idea what you are talking about. AI is one of only a handful of players who have put up 30+ points and 7+ assists in the same season – and he did it twice, in back-to-back seasons with philly when they were just mediocre. AI is an all-around player who is a combo guard that can play the point just as well as the 2. study the history of the game. please.

  • titanic

    with all that being said, rose is no where near Allen Iverson. No where in the neighborhood.

  • http://www.thedynastyboys.com lix

    Co-sign titanic

  • http://www.slamonline.com Red

    Oh its cool @Spit my bad man lol. Apparently shut up is highly offensive & immature, or do you just realize you made no sense by saying Rose was a pure point guard in high school when he wasn’t? Lol. Titantic got you anyways you done son.

  • AsadSaleh3

    @titanic Iverson’s assists came mostly when he couldn’t find a shot. When you take 20 plus shots a game, it becomes very easy to get 6 assists when all eyes are on you. I watched almost every game he played from Georgetown to his last run in Philly. His first instinct was to score. Perhaps some of you didn’t watch him play. His steals came because he could anticipate passes and explode through passing lanes. He wasn’t that great of a one on one defender. Sounds like you’re just bringing up stats yet you didn’t watch him play. Iverson was one of the greatest one on one scorers in league history, but a mediocre defender. Not a great all around defender at all. Even he laughed when he was asked once about his defense by Stephen A. Smith on national TV. It would do you some good to be objective, a real and true fan is objective even when he/she is talking about his/her favorite player.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    If people think Rose is better than Iverson, that’s on them. There is no factual basis for this belief, so it would be silly to argue it.
    If people think moving to the two guard benefited Iverson in the long run, then they don’t know much about ball. Yes, it allowed him to focus mainly on scoring, but in the long run having your 6-foot point guard being the primary scorer from the two guard spot is not the best way for him to thrive as a player.
    Oscar Robertson was the primary scorer on his teams for years, he was still great. Larry Brown lacked patience to work with Iverson and develop him as a scoring point guard. If he had done that, it would have been better for Iverson’s career and probably better for the team in the long run. He didn’t, and they had the success they had.
    Iverson was not a great one on one defender, he was an AWESOME defender in the passing lanes.
    His primary role on offense was scoring, but you don’t average nearly 8 assists simply by only passing when you don’t have a shot. He could score and pass, he just was more inclined to do one of them. Brown could have worked with him to harness that ability, just like Chuck Daly did with Isiah Thomas. Brown did not.
    The end.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Iverson efficiency was much worse at the two guard. Look at all of his seasons playing hte point. Outside of his rookie year, he had his most efficient years all playing the point.
    He was a scorer, but that doesn’t mean you can’t play point. You just have to have a patient coach who works with you. Popovich did hte same thing with Tony Parker. Lots of players have made the transition if they have coaches who work with them. Larry Brown wasn’t interested in doing that with Iverson.

  • jimmer

    Derrick Rose is neither as good a player or as good a point guard as Iverson was. All the stats related stuff makes me mad; if you actually watched Iverson play, he could drop no look passes and sweet little gimmes whenever he wanted. He had outstanding court vision. He just wanted to score instead, fullstop. Derrick Rose, by the way, is made of glass, and will be the next Penny Hardaway. Except Penny had game.

  • AsadSaleh3

    Those of you who believe AI was a PG have yet to explain why he and Stackhouse couldn’t play well together. Or why George Karl and Larry Brown, two great coaches, played him at the two instead of the point. Or why, with a more talented team than the 01 Finals team, the Sixers didn’t make it out of the first round with AI playing the point. You all are seemingly smarter than Brown and Karl so have fun explaining all of that. Also, a guy being able to throw no look passes makes him a PG? Hmmm. So Shaq was a point guard too? That’s great logic.

  • Ldub

    the point that is trying to be made is this…..size (seemingly) puts you in a certain position. 6’4 and smaller (pg), 6’5-6’8 (sg), 6’6-6’10ish (sf) etc. Every couple of years you find a diamond in the rough that changes the game. That is based on talent, skill set, abilities etc. Iverson was a SG (because of his skill set) trapped in a PG body. The argument will go back n forth forever because he was doing what Kobe, VC and other guys were doing with 6 less inches. If you think about AI’s past, he has ALWAYS been the playmaker. Football, he was the QB (making plays with his arm or feet)…bball he was the PG. The person that has to make things happen either for himself or for teammates. Again…AI has a PG body..but he has SG (scoring) capabilities. I believe he could have been a 20 and 10 guy but that was never his style. 30 and 6 is where the greatness came from. Plus 20 and 10 wouldnt have made the “team” better. Because there werent cats that were knocking down shots, or could create their own shots once they had the rock.

    As far as why AI and Stack didnt work…you can argue about that point as well. But I dont feel that has anything to do with AI being a PG or SG. Either way…AI was top dawg and ball was going thru his hands.

  • Ldub

    And he was played at the 2 because of his abilty to put the ball in the cup was better than many others. Game changed to a “size doesnt matter” mindset. Similar to Monta Ellis. He has a PG body, but his skill set, mentality and ability to score places him better at the 2. Bring in a guard whos mindset it to defend and pass and you have success.

  • http://abcnews.go.com/US/seattle-arrest-questions-cops-dash-cams/story?id=15595576 Allenp

    Jerry Stackhouse couldn’t play well with Michael Jordan.
    Because Jerry Stackhouse thought he should be the man.
    That’s why he and Iverson didn’t mesh, not because Iverson was a scorer.
    Melo scored 26 a game playing with Iverson, what are you talking about?
    Did you examine the rosters for the Sixers when Iverson played the point? They were horrible, it wasn’t on him. And they met the Eastern Conference Champions in the First Round.
    Clearly you’re invested in a position. That’s fine. The numbers say Iverson was an incredibly inefficient shooting guard mainly because he was givng up between six and seven inches every night to his defender.
    You can be a scorer from the point guard. Tiny Archibald did it. Oscar Robertson. KJ. Sam Cassell. Chauncey Billups. Dennis Johnson in Seattle. People who think there is only one way to play point guard are just stubborn. That doesn’t make them right.
    Hell Cousy was a scorer from the point guard. He took 18 shots to get 18 points and never shot better than 40 percent from the floor in his entire career!

  • Rainman

    I called it guys…Mis handled injuries add up…

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