Wednesday, April 4th, 2012 at 8:35 am  |  131 responses

Post Up: Two Kings

LeBron scores 41, Kobe kills the Nets, 8 straight for the Spurs and the Grizz win again.

by Abe Schwadron | @abe_squad

With the college game over and done with (word to Brittney Griner and Baylor), the NBA is ready to take center stage for the mainstream crowd—NFL Draft notwithstanding. But for the loyal readers of this blog, we all know it’s been pro ball from the jump, delayed as it may have been. So let’s get right to everybody’s favorite argument: Kobe vs. LeBron. Both had big nights in very different ways on Monday, so have at it!

Raptors 92, Bobcats 87

When you’re a 7-win team that can’t buy a victory and you find yourself down 3 points with one final possession, you gotta give the ball to Byron Mullens. Wait, what? Mullens air-balled a 3-pointer with 11 seconds left, putting a comical final touch on what was actually a nice game by him (20 points, 14 rebounds, 2 blocks). I won’t bore you with any more from this battle of Eastern Conference bottom-feeders, but it’s worth noting that Andrea Bargnani scored 30 points while no Charlotte starter other than Mullens could manage more than 2 buckets.

Spurs 125, Cavaliers 90

Spurs guard Danny Green scored 19 points against the team that cut him prior to last season, Tony Parker matched his 19 and Patty Mills scored 20 off the bench as San Antonio won its 8th straight game in blowout fashion. Conversely, it was loss No. 8 in a row for the Cavaliers, who were outrebounded 46 to 27, outshot 59 percent to 42 percent and had only one player score more than 13 points—Antawn Jamison had 15. The days when Cleveland once looked like a sneaky Playoff team are long gone—they’ve lost 17 of their last 21, the last 7 losses by an average of 22.3 points. The Spurs, who are 37-14 and now just 2 games back of Oklahoma City for the top spot in the West, scored 58 points in the paint against the Cavs, needing only 7 points apiece from Manu Ginobili and Tim Duncan to cruise to the win.

Pacers 112, Knicks 104

Just when Carmelo Anthony returns to superstar Melo status with a 39-point, 10-rebound game, the Knicks forget to play the fourth quarter and lose ground in the Playoff race. In the final period, the Pacers outscored New York 40 to 17, Danny Granger poured in 14 of his team-high 27 points and Paul George scored 12 of his 18, helping Indy close out the Knicks. Granger started raining three-pointers in the fourth, pulling the Pacers back in front after trailing for the entire third quarter—they trailed by 17 at one point in the second half. In a way, Indy’s win over the Knicks on the strength of hot shooting form beyond the arc was fitting, since one day earlier, legendary Knick-killer Reggie Miller was selected for the basketball Hall of Fame.

Heat 99, Sixers 93

Average players go months years careers without dropping a 30-spot in an NBA game. For LeBron James, a 10-game streak without scoring 30+ is cause for revolt. Right on cue, The Chosen One broke out for a season-high 41 points, breaking his longest such streak since the 2004-05 season and helping Miami beat Philadelphia for the 11th straight regular season matchup while Dwyane Wade looked on in street clothes. Bron shot 15-25 from the field (1-2 on threes), plus had 6 rebounds, 4 assists and 3 steals as the Heat improved to 38-14 and 22-2 at home. Miami’s 4-0 season sweep of the Sixers was just another chapter in their domination of Philly in recent history. Even when the Sixers got to within 4 on a Spencer Hawes bucket with just over 4 minutes to play, LeBron turned on the after-burners, scoring the next 10 points for the Heat to close out the game. Evan Turner led Philly with 26 points and Lou Williams added 18, 5 and 5, but that was about it for the 76ers, who had no answer for LBJ in attack mode. Adding injury to insult, Andre Iguodala left the game and did not return after suffering a left eye contusion. Be well, AI.

Pistons 102, Magic 95

With Dwight Howard healthy, you’d expect this game to go a certain way. Without Howard in the lineup—or Ryan Anderson or Jameer Nelson—it went unfolded a bit differently. Because they were missing this. Greg Monroe going for 22 points and 11 rebounds without DH patrolling the paint isn’t all that surprising, but it got worse—check these numbers: Detroit shot an insane 57 percent from the field as a team, outrebounded the Magic 45 to 30 and outscored Orlando 56 to 30 in the paint. Meanwhile, the Magic rolled out one of the ugliest starting lineups in recent memory (sorry, it’s true) in Duhon-Davis-Hedo-QRich-JRich. Ugh. Big Baby scored a career-high 31 points (!) and grabbed 10 rebounds, but Orlando lost its fourth straight game.

Grizzlies 98, Warriors 94

How fun are the Grizzlies? Facing a 12-point deficit early in the fourth quarter, Memphis ran off 13 unanswered points to regain the lead and pieced together a second straight near-perfect final period to beat the Warriors one night after downing OKC. Clearly delighted by seeing his selection as The Post Up’s cover boy yesterday, OJ Mayo came through with another nice performance for Memphis, scoring a team-high 19 points (including 4 threes) and making every big play down the stretch for the Grizz. After missing the previous game with an ankle injury, Mike Conley returned to heat up Memphis early on, and he finished with 18 points and 5 assists. Golden State fell to 20-32 despite a 22-13-4 line from David Lee and 18 points in just 25 minutes for Nate Robinson. And if you don’t like my recap, here’s Tony Allen’s:

Suns 109, Kings 100

We’ll get to the Phoenix win in a moment, but first thing’s first—to call DeMarcus Cousins anything but a certified beast is a crime at this point. DMC had his way with the Suns’ frontline, racking up a career-high 41 points on 16-25 shooting and 12 rebounds. He would have had more like 45 if not for 5 missed free throws. It’s a wonder the Kings didn’t win this game, considering that every time I flipped over Cousins was doing work down low with ease. Then again, he didn’t get much help. Isaiah Thomas had 25 points, but the 3 remaining Kings starters (yes, that includes Tyreke Evans) scored a combined 10 points on the night. As for Phoenix, Marcin Gortat doubled up with 20 points and 10 boards, Steve Nash dished out 12 assists to go with his 18 points as the Suns got to within 1.5 games of Houston for the 8-seed in the West.

Lakers 91, Nets 87

Los Angeles built a 17-point lead in what was never supposed to be a close game. I mean, come on, it’s the Nets! Improbably, New Jersey cut the Laker lead to 84-83 with just over 2 minutes to play on a Gerald Wallace driving lay-in after a 17-6 Nets run to open the fourth quarter. Impossibly, Deron Williams tied the game at 86 on a kick-out 3-pointer with 1:30 remaining. Predictably, Kobe Bryant did what Kobe Bryant does—he drilled a 3-pointer (courtesy of an unbelievable bounce) from damn near halfcourt with 6.8 ticks left on the clock to give the Lakers a 4-point cushion, enough to end the Nets’ 3-game win streak. The finger-gun worthy shot was part of Kobe’s game-high 24 points, barely besting Deron Williams, who scored 20 points and nearly ripped Matt Barnes’ ankles off his body with this double crossover.

Line of the Night: Melo, DMC and Big Baby had big nights but all came in losing efforts. The crown goes to The King on this night—LeBron hung 41 on the Sixers in DWade’s absence.

Moment of the Night: Kobe FTW.

Funny of the Night: McBob on some Harlem Globetrotters type ish. Sorry, Nets.

Dunks of the Night: Philly lost the game, but Iggy won the dunk contest.

Tonight: A dozen games, highlighted by a Thunder-Heat rematch on South Beach, plus Spurs-Celtics, Grizz-Mavs and the rubber match of Battle: Los Angeles at Staples Center.

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  • http://jsklff.com Jukai

    JTaylor: don’t you argue that you’d rather have Zbo than Love for the same logic?
    I gave y’all my opinion, I gotta go grab some food. Have fun with your circle jerk, guys.

  • http://jsklff.com Jukai

    In 2005 SHAQ DIDN’T WIN MVP!!!!! Having great teammates is a MAJOR MAJOR factor!
    Done. I’m done. Prying myself away.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    I was kinda going off of last year… lol. I don’t like watching the Nuggets that much. Haven’t seen him except a couple of times this year. He’s been injured. Unless he has forgotten how to play defense he will round back into form. Which is better than LeBron at guarding the perimeter. LeBron is better at allot of things defensively than AA, but he is not better at guarding the perimeter.
    -I got Westbrook as a top 12 player I think. Heat are still better from top to bottom from a talent/skill stand point. Thunder are just playing like a much better team which is probably Durant’s biggest edge for MVP more than anything. No team in basketball has played better all year than the Thunder. Bulls have an argument, but the Thunder have been pretty flawless.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    But Shaq should have won MVP. The media just brainwashed everyone, just like they are doing right now. Puddin Pop.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Last season? When he was equally bad? The dude is an overrated defender. It’s pretty simple.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    The Thunders win % is 75%, the Heat are at 73%. If The Heat win tonight and the Thunder lose they will be separated by 1 win & 0 losses. LOL, the Thunder for being so “great” aren’t much better then the Heat, who haven’t been “great” – Or maybe, the Thunder have played 4 more home games and the Heat have played 3 more road games? Wait, that can’t be? haha oh well, that stuff doesn’t matter, right?

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    Jukai, what does that have to do with this convo? reaching I see
    How can people say that Westbrook is barely a top-20 player and according to Lake, a Top-12 player, with the way he’s been tearing up the L this season? Y’all sit here showering Love with praises all day long but can’t even give Westbrook his just due. The media and the BS they peddle really does have an effect on how people look at certain players.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    When did the media do this? I said Durant would win MVP this year, last year. Cosign JTaylor. Better season, different, than better player. LBJ is the best player in the L. Durant is having the better MVP like season right now.
    -Better team record.
    -Equally impressive Statistics.
    -Although, I am of the thought that tonight this could change if LBJ dominates Durant. I will give LBJ the edge. I don’t care if “2 games don’t determine….. blah blah blah.” Tonight’s game determines allot for me unless they play equal lol. MJ would take a game like tonight seriously and dominate his ‘supposed’ competition. Kobe would also. As would Magic. You think Durant and LBJ don’t know that the MVP race is between them? They do. Tonight’s game is important regarding this debate.
    Naw, nbk, I watched AA play fantastic defense on Kobe the last few years. Kobe usually burned him because that’s what he does, but AA got the better of him a couple times. I don’t care if dudes score on a guy. If he played good defense, he played good defense. Dudes a great defender.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    So because Afflalo played 1 guy good he’s a better defender? Do you not see the terrible logic in that? Afflalo plays “good” defense against some guys sometimes. He’s not a great defender though. He had a reputation that he was before he became a heavy minute player. Then he was exposed.

  • http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/miamiheat/post/_/id/13215/charting-the-heat-five-problems-for-miami Allenp

    Why are people pretending like 25 and 5 and 4 is chopped liver?
    When has Wade exceeded those numbers? We do realize he’s putting up worst stats than Westbrook and they are basically playing the same position since Westbrook isn’t playing like an actual point guard at all, right?
    We can all agree that Westbrook has been more consistent on both ends AND has had more outstanding games, right? If we can’t agree on that then we can’t agree on anything.
    Basically, Westbrook has looked better than Wade almost the entire season.
    And he plays with Durant. Who also plays with Harden, Perkins, Collison, Thabo, Cook and the rest of the motley crew.
    Miami and the Thunder are tied as far as overall talent. OKC is slightly deeper, Miami has slightly more talent.
    So if Bron is getting docked for not being otherworldly, why does Durant get a pass for having a standard season? I don’t understand how Bron gets penalized for having great teammates because he chose them, but Durant is cool because his teammates were drafted to his side or traded for? It’s an incredible bias.

  • http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/miamiheat/post/_/id/13215/charting-the-heat-five-problems-for-miami Allenp

    If it wasn’t clear, 25, 5 and 4 is what Westbrook is averaging. On a career best 47 percent from the field.
    He’s having a career year for a shooting guard. Ray Allen has never put up those numbers and he’s a hall of famer.
    He’s had multiple 40 point games. A few double digit assist games and been crazy clutch. I don’t think he’s playing the point particularly well, but when it comes to playing awesome basketball, he’s dominating.
    How can you just randomly give Wade a pass for putting up worse numbers this year than he put up last year? Chris Bosh is having a worse year too statistically.
    I just don’t understand some of the arguments. Stop reaching.
    You don’t like Lebron for a variety of reason. He’s not clutch, he made The Decision, he is lacking in offensive finesse. That’s fine. It’s all opinion. But that’s what it boils down to. It has nothing to do with stats, or performance, or teammates. It’s simply that people don’t like what LeBron brings to the table all that much and prefer Durant. Just own it. It’s fine. Hell, Steve Nash won two MVPs based partially on that sort of thinking.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    The Unintelligent Talk Box would say, we expect this out of LeBron. Living up to expectations isn’t special. Especially if our last most tangible memory of him is a failure. While Durant has only exceeded expectation in his career. Durant is almost viewed just like LeBron was before his failure against Boston.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    Lake, when did 27.5/8.2/3.5/1.4/1.1/50/37/84 become equally impressive as 26.7/8.1/6.4/1.9/0.8/54/36/76? Not to mention, the latter’s team has one less loss and that’s with the team’s second best player being out 10gms.

  • http://slamonline Brion

    The Heat did hold some kind of record for continuous double digit victories earlier in the year. Everyone was saying they look unstopable at that time.

  • http://www.facebook.com/joe.l.brewer3 BlackPhantom

    Ehh, he’s a good-not great defender.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Slick Ric

    Yall tripping right now, saying you rather have westbrook anytime than Wade is blasphemous right now. harden is not having a better season than Bosh, he’s just exceeding his expectations;thus, making this a great season FOR HIM. Lebron is definitely overrated defensively, but all those guys lakeshow mentioned are not better perimeter defenders than him. seeing that list, westbrook defense is mad overrated too.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    I concede on the AA as a great defender point. I was speaking more on a couple years ago and nbk put it perfectly when he said he was exposed with starter mins. Anyway… my point being that LeBron is a great defender. No need to act like he’s top 3. He isn’t. He is borderline top 10 as far as perimeter defenders are concerned.

    -JTaylor: Were you not saying to yourself as you wrote those stats “Wow these are actually remarkably similar stats? lol… They are incredibly similar. Assist being the only thing that separates. Do the Thunder struggle because of Durant’s lack of assists? No. So why do those assists matter for Durant. The only thing I don’t like is his TO number per his assists. FG% wise they are both equally impressive with Durant taking more difficult jumpers and 3 point shots.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Allen. Ray Allen has had equally impressive of seasons. Go look I think you forgot about the damage he did in his time with the Sonics. He was between a 23-26PPG guy with, 3.5-6 Assists and Rebounds for several years.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    Lake, they matter when you’re comparing his #s to LeBron’s.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Yeah, but i’m not comparing numbers, i’m determining MVP. LeBron is a Point-Forward. Durant isn’t. It’s not a bad thing to not be a point forward. I personally think LBJ should not average so many assists. Sounds silly, but he is way to good at other things offensively to be passing as much as he does. His teams have been successful with him averaging a high number of assists though so I don’t think it’s a bad thing. Just as I don’t think Durant’s mediocre assist numbers are bad since his teams is successful. It’s apples and Oranges. I’m not defending my position any more. Durant is my MVP today. He may not be tomorrow. I’m calling it a day gentlemen. Long boarding awaits me on this beautiful sunny afternoon :) We shall discuss the tonights game tomorrow, i’m sure…

  • http://www.facebook.com/joe.l.brewer3 BlackPhantom

    I wish they would live blog this Thunder-Heat game…

  • http://jsklff.com Jukai

    Westbrook isn’t even a top-3 point guard.
    Wade is a top-2 shooting guard.
    Everyone of you argues that “Dirk is gonna turn it on, Pau is gonna turn it on, Kevin Love doesn’t deserve the top spot” and now you’re arguing Westbrook is better?
    Debating isn’t a buffet, you can’t just pick the argument you want to use.

  • http://jsklff.com Jukai

    But, all arguments aside—
    DAMN is this a game

  • http://larrybrownsports.com/basketball/lebron-james-played-superb-defense-on-derrick-rose/70485 nbk

    So you don’t understand the difference between a better player and a better season. Like I’ve said numerous times, Kevin Love is not better than Dirk, Pau, or Lamarcus, but he’s having a better season. Maybe “pry yourself away” some more.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Ray Allen put up numberbit not shooting 47 percent from the field or playing defense lime Westbrook although his defense is not as great as you think.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Jukai.
    25, 5 and 4 on 47 percent from the field. The numbers are elite. He is an elite guard.

  • http://www.t-mac.com/tmac/index unf*ckwitable

    Allenp at 6 37pm summed up perfectly why i like Durant better then Lebron. As for MVP, to be honest im in way over my head so im not even gonna try and argue it with yall but i think LBJ is in front but i can see and accept the arguments for Durant, its just very hard to go past Lebron and the season he is putting together, how he finishes will be important obviously.

  • http://jsklff.com Jukai

    Allen: Yes. He is. But he’s not comparable to Wade.
    I mean, Monta Ellis also had a 25-4-5 season. I expect Westbrook to keep on chugging, but let’s see Westbrook over his career. He has the greenlight to do, well, whatever the hell he wants, unusual for a guy in his position.
    Amazing Heat vs OKC game. Lebron put a little more cushion on his MVP hunt.

  • Justin G.

    I think the whole “but Lebron plays with Wade” comment is one of the dumbest I’ve ever heard as a reason not to give someone MVP. I don’t remember ever hearing “but he plays with Pippen”,”but he plays with Kareem”, “but he plays with the best front court in history” or “but he plays with Stockton”. Also, just because there might be more talented players on paper doesn’t mean they’re going to play like they’re more talented as a team. You don’t have to look any further than the Knicks to figure that one out.

    nbk, it really is funny how stubborn you are. I’m not disagreeing with you as far as your rationale for Lebron being MVP but you really can’t help yourself when people do disagree don’t you, especially Lakeshow? So many times you’ll say you’re done with the discussion and then the next day, the same argument will start and you get involved all over again. It wouldn’t surprise me at all if guys like Lakeshow were just saying the things they are because they know they’ll get a rise out of you

  • http://larrybrownsports.com/basketball/lebron-james-played-superb-defense-on-derrick-rose/70485 nbk

    I am not saying I’m not stubborn but when I say I’m done I mean I’m done talking on that day on that page. There is no escaping rehashing old arguments until someone changes their opinion.

  • http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/miamiheat/post/_/id/13215/charting-the-heat-five-problems-for-miami Allenp

    Also, I gave Kevin Love the top spot weeks ago. What are you talking about?

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