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Thursday, May 10th, 2012 at 5:45 pm  |  44 responses

Chris Andersen ‘Excused Indefinitely’ By the Denver Nuggets


Chris “Birdman” Andersen will not be available to the Denver Nuggets for Game 6 against the Lakers tonight, as law enforcement officials investigate him for unknown Internet crimes against children. He has been “excused” from all team-related activities. Per the Denver Post: “Authorities searched Andersen’s Larkspur home this morning and seized property. Andersen, 33, has not been arrested or charged with a crime. ‘The Denver Nuggets are aware of today’s media reports involving forward/center Chris Andersen. It involves a legal investigation and we are awaiting further details,’ team officials wrote in an unsigned statement. ‘Per team policy, the Nuggets will not comment on any ongoing legal circumstance involving any player or employee.’ [...] The Denver County Sheriff’s Office spokeswoman Deborah Sherman said the investigation remains open and declined to provide details about what items deputies took or any specific allegations against Andersen. [...] In Colorado, Internet crimes against children can include anything from exchanging pornographic images of kids to using chatrooms to lure children for sexual purposes. Frequently, police seize computers, data storage devices and other electronics in these types of investigations. Proving who used the device can be tricky if multiple people have access to it. Public records suggest one other person — a 30-year-old woman — may live at the Larkspur home. Andersen has been under investigation since February, when a California law enforcement agency tipped off Douglas County investigators.”

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  • http://Roosterteeth.com Caboose

    This dude is screwed.

  • MikeC.

    Nighty night, keep your butthole tight!

  • shutup

    what ever happened to innocent until proven guilty?

  • fruizm

    Come on, Birdman!!

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Co-Sign shutup big time.
    In this type of case, more than any other, you wait till the evidence is proved fact before you condemn anyone.

  • http://abcnews.com charliewinning

    @shutup: Are you aware of some changes to our Constitution that the rest of us aren’t?

  • http://abcnews.com charliewinning

    On a social level, you should also wait until evidence comes out before declaring someone innocent. Alleged victims deserve that just as much as alleged criminals deserve to not be condemned right away. That fat idiot Karl needs to learn that. It’s important to note that the whole idea of “innocent before proven guilty” is meant as a practice of the U.S judicial system. It has nothing to do with public opinion. It’s derived from our Constitutional guarantee of a fair trial, thus the idea that one must be proven guilty before being convicted and sentenced. The phrase is often inappropriately used by people who have no clue about to what it refers.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Hmm, did you catch someone saying he was innocent? No. Oh, okay. Cool, shut up then.

  • http://abcnews.com charliewinning

    Did you catch anyone saying he was guilty? No, so shutup. I did however see a phrase that has nothing to do with this article or any other on this topic. Not my fault your feelings are hurt over fact.

  • MikeC.

    George Karl is fat? Last time I saw him, he looked quite thin from cancer recovery.

  • freezy

    Charliewinning: John Amechie’s biggest fan.

  • jay cutler

    charliewinning: dense AND illiterate.

    Go away troll.

  • Jerome

    Under investigation since February? If justice exists in North America it sure isn’t swift. He isn’t even charged yet for “unknown” internet crimes. I guess Zimmerman should have been electrocuted by now, according to charliewinning.

  • http://slamonline.com The Philosopher

    Damn.

  • Kabelion

    Just a warning to all, password protect your routers. This could be something as horrible as his next door neighbor using his unprotected internet to download stuff.

  • http://abcnews.com charliewinning

    Jerome, you’re slow. Very slow. It’s actually scary how slow you are. Jay Cutler and freezy, you are probably the same person, which is actually a textbook example of a troll. Posting idiotic stuff under differentt names smh.

  • http://slamonline.com The Philosopher

    Charlie is the sh1t…

  • @dasheffect68

    SANDUSKY!!!!!

  • http://www.t-mac.com/tmac/index unf*ckwitable

    Shut up sheensy.

  • shutup

    I’m sorry if I don’t understand your reply charlie I read them a couple times and to say they are contradictory is an over-simplification. I think the Nuggets are wrong for suspending him, but that has nothing to do with George Karl; I doubt he gets to make those type of decisions. Kabelion has the most valid point of all, one time I got my neighbors ISP suspended for downloading a copy of Alice in Wonderland.

  • IAMORANGE4EVER

    Co-sign Kabelion. People are FOOLS that don’t secure their home network. I’m no tech geek, but I still believe there is a way to see who jumped on the network recently based on the mac address of the device used.

  • vtrobot

    his mug shot will be legendary.

  • http://abcnews.com charliewinning

    I suggest you re-read them. They were in plain English. Innocent before proven guilty is a legal practice. It has nothing to do with public opinion. It’s not really that hard to understand. Aslo, being put on leave isn’t the same as a suspension. Where did it say he was suspended?

  • bike

    Can you imagine anything more embarrassing than a large law enforcement vehicle pulling up in front of your house with ‘INTERNET CRIMES AGAINST CHILDEREN’ written on the side?

  • shutup

    Honestly I stopped posting for a while because of douchebags like you, but here goes…innocent before proven guilty is an expression that was dated long before the constitution, it basically refers to the presumption of innocence it doesn’t ever actually appear in the constitution. Mr. Andersen is being persecuted for allegedly committing a crime, the agencies involved haven’t charged him with anything and as Kabelion pointed out networks are infiltrated all the time, even if you secure your network there are way to bypass that security (look up poison packet attacks)and people think that the better the neighborhood the less security that would be needed but the truth of the matter is with a long range wifi antenna someone can access your network from miles away. So thank you for your input, I still have no idea what that had to do with George Karl supposedly being fat but whatever floats your boat. Oh and it said he was “excused”, the quotation marks were there to emphasize the fact that it was against his will. With that said I say good day to you sir.

  • charliewinning

    90% of what you wrote is baseless assumption 1) You’re a moron who is talking purely about speculation. 2) Anderson is not being persecuted or prosecuted by anyone. You don’t know what he’s being investigated for, so how you are drawing conclusions about his network being used by someone else is beyond me. You have no idea of any details anymore than anyone else does. 3) Innocent until proven guilty has no place here. Innocent before proven guilty does not apply to pubic opinion. It has no influence over whether or not employers take employees out of the public eye so as to not cause distractions. He was not convicted of or sentenced for any crime, as it would violate his his right to trial. 4) You are not teaching anyone anything about ‘Presumption of Innocence’ that I did not know. I never claimed the phrase appeared in the Constitution. You have comprehension issues. The judicial application of it is based on the right to trial before conviction. It’s not rocket science. Finally, I don’t care why or how often you post here. But I will comment any time someone posts something stupid, as you did.

  • http://abcnews charliewinning

    Also, investigations come before charges. The length of time he’s been investigated is irrelevent. Part of investigating involves collecting evidence, which is then examined by a district attorney, who then decides whether or not to press charges. A warrant signed by a judge is needed before such a search. Probable cause needs to be proven even before the judge grants the singature for the warrant. Real life is not like a tv series. Things don’t get resloved in two days.

  • http://abcnews charliewinning

    Lastly, if you read karl’s quote you’d have a clue what I was talking about. Instead of making assumptions, try reading more sources than just Slam.

  • shutup

    First of all I didn’t assume anything, and if you want someone to take in to account some other source then site it if not don’t expect people to know what you are talking about (that’s an assumption on your part) and being removed from all team activities would still fall under the definition for persecution. I give two sh!ts about public opinion, and he is being investigated for Internet crimes against children like the article stated again not an assumption. I have no idea what the charge is or the facts of the case, by stating what happened to innocent before proven guilty, I did not reference the Constitution, your the one who assumed thats what I was talking about. Oh and reading comprehension goes hand in hand with context, obviously I was referring to the team letting him go without knowing the facts of the case which was the topic of this article not the judicial process that will follow the investigation.

  • http://abcnews charliewinning

    I’m aware that I’m the one who brought up the Constitution. I did so because, as I said twice before, you used a phrase applied to our judicial system in a discussion over an employer and employee. Please tell me your legal or ethical source behind your idea that the Nuggest did something worng. You used that phrase in the worng context. He wasn’t sentenced without a trial to any crime, so what does innocent before proven guilty have to do with anything? The Karl quote was from a USAToday article, so if I didn’t cite that then that’s my fault. As far as Anderson’s being ‘let go’, he wasn’t fired. No one said anything about cessation of his pay. An empoyer has the right to take an employee out of the public eye if they feel it will harm operations by being a distraction. They didn’t violate his Constitutional rights or his contract. So I ask, what does innocent before proven guilty have to do with Anderson?

  • http://abcnews charliewinning

    Employer*, wrong*

  • http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_20597937/nuggets-player-chris-andersen-excused-from-team-after Jerome

    I’m just one guy. No other moniker. What do you mean by slow Tiger blood? Check the link … still no charges laid. But just for clarification, what do you think should happen to George Zimmerman?

  • http://abcnews charliewinning

    Jermone, charges usually don’t come before evidence is examined. This isn’t Law & Order SVU. This is real life bud. So I’m not going to check your link. I think Zimmerman is going to get off, though I’d love for his punk #ss to rot in prison for life. I don’t care how you feel about it so I won’t ask, nor will I engage you on the subject.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Charlie Sheen comments on Slam… That’s how awesome this website is.

  • LA Huey

    You guys glossed over something that needs to be addressed. Does shutup have a kids or a wife/girlfriend? Otherwise, what’s his excuse for downloading Alice in Wonderland?

  • shutup

    I am a fan of Tim Burton and although the movie was bad; how would I have formed my own opinion without watching it? Also a fan of Lewis Carroll, there is a plethora of symbolism in his writings. As for what I think the Nuggets did wrong, basically turning their back on a valued piece of their team and ostracizing a person before any charges have been filed or any evidence other than having an open investigation, I feel the team should give him the benefit of the doubt as well should the public, the spectrum of what could have happened is enormous;it could be as innocent as clicking an errant link or opening some spam or as vile as well I’ll leave that to your imagination.

  • shutup

    Benefit of the doubt= presumed innocence= innocent before proven guilty

  • LA Huey

    Ugh, your preference for Tim Burton is only balanced out by your fandom of Lewis Carroll. Thanks for clearing that up though.

  • alphabeta

    Birdman is being skakendown, today he shed light on the subject. He met this 21 yr old over the internet and she flew to Denver to meet and Chris was not interested after she left to go back home. Hence, she lied about her age with false identification. Her mother told Chris to pay for all her Amazon wishlist, 5K cash, and all the Victoria Secret’s collection. So, this is nothing but a case of a rich athlete being extorted.

  • http://abcnews charliewinning

    We’re going to have to agree to disagree on the Nuggets decision. It’s easy to tell someone else how much distraction they should be willing to endure when the business isn’t your own. Not only did they do the appropriate thing, but it’s no different than any other team or business in the public eye would’ve done. You’re speculating that they turned their back on him. The only public statement they made was that they don’t comment publicly about legal matters. You claim the quotations around the words “excused indefinitely” mean he was somehow being forced out. Read the same article on foxsports.com and they’re aren’t any quotation marks around it. Just so you know. Lastly, businesses are not required to conduct matters based on innocent before proven guilty. Not sure why you insist on applying that here.

  • shutup

    I’m cool with agreeing to disagree but if what alphabeta says is true and I don’t know if it is then yes the Nuggets have taken something away from him (some players go a career without seeing the playoffs) albeit to protect their own interests, I’m not sure why I would expect more of a sports organization; maybe it’s the team aspect of the business. But can we agree if this was a more prominent superstar the reaction would not be the same (ie Kobe’s r@pe case, which I too thought was a case of an unfounded accusation) Lastly I don’t intend to tell anyone how they should run their business but it disappoints me to see that if these accusations do turn out to be false that Mr. Andersen will never get the games back that he has lost or be able to clear his name from the “pedophile” image that it is now associated with. @LA never said Tim Burton was a top ten fave director but his work intrigues me for its darkness and morbid nature much like Guillermo del Torro. Also I was trying to recapture the feeling of fright when I watched Alice and Wonderland the TV release when I was a kid.

  • Treshiq

    I assumed this was about an underage Girl…(But i’m talking a teen or someone trying to pretend to be older) to LA HUEY.>The NUggs HAD NO CHOICE! i’m from Denver..BIrdman is a child favorite..The KIDS love him..He got signed (Over dahntay Jones) in Strictly b/c of the rapport he had with the fans…he was still explosive blocking and protecting the rim..then he got hurt..But it was most def the fans who wanted him here. We were rooting for the guy. If it happens to be some sick ( i lied about my age to sleep with a bball player) but if it’s ANYTHING else…I can’t roll wit ‘em..Hopefully the truth prevails and he is okay. @charliewinning. You absolutely right.

  • http://abcnews charliewinning

    @Shutup: The only thing the Nuggets owe him is what his contact states. He’s not entitled to anything else. Unless Alphabeta is hands on in the investigation nothing he/she says has validity. I don’t care about anything said outside of a district attorneys mouth or courtroom.

  • shutup

    I wasn’t speaking about entitlement. nvm you have your perspective I have mine. It’s just as a player he went above and beyond from what I saw PETA ad and all you would figure an organization would go to bat for him. But like you said it’s business.

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