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Thursday, June 7th, 2012 at 10:03 am  |  116 responses

Post Up: OKC Wins West

Kevin Durant leads the Thunder to the NBA Finals with a 34-point Game 6 against the Spurs.

Thunder 107, Spurs 99 (OKC wins 4-2)

So this is what a superteam looks like.

The Thunder were down 18 in the first half to the Spurs. Fifteen at the half. It didn’t matter. Oklahoma City cordoned off the last vestiges of the old NBA and put it out of its misery last night. They won 107-99. The Thunder are going to the NBA Finals. A bunch of respectful, better young men were wielding the axe.

The best of them all was Kevin Durant, who is now arguably the best player in the NBA. He has all of the tools, the freakish mold, the statlines from the core of the Earth. But now, too, he has splayed out these guts or balls or a careless disregard for his body and his future. It is the final intangible.

He played all 48 minutes because they needed him to, because they were down 18 so quickly, because he’s 23 years old, because that’s what young players tend to do when they want statues of themselves melded into the sidewalk outside of their home arenas. It’s the only way the Thunder could’ve won, so he did it. They won.

The Spurs came out firing like a guy feverishly trying to build a bomb shelter before the world came tumbling down. Stephen Jackson and Tony Parker almost pulled it off by themselves.

San Antonio already led 19-14 when Parker started heaving floaters and distant threes in from everywhere. He scored 9 in a row. It looked like that time in the 2007 NBA Finals when no one could figure him out, when that spin/floater combo was too quick for even the camera guy.

But it’s not the 2007 NBA Finals anymore. That was five years ago. Stephen Jackson can go 6-6 from three—and he did—and nothing’s going to stop it from being five years later.

The Thunder figured that out at halftime. You know those bad Russell Westbrook shots from the elbow that make everyone in Oklahoma City want to set their TVs on fire? Those were all going in. The Spurs held it off initially with Tim Duncan ignoring double teams and bulleting home mini-hooks.

Then things fell apart completely. It doesn’t usually work like this, but it’s readily traceable to one play with 9 minutes left in the third quarter. Tiago Splitter messed up an assignment. Gregg Popovich wanted him doubling Durant on the touch. He didn’t. He doubled a little late and Durant was fouled. So what.

Popovich—bless his heart, one of the best we’ve ever seen—lost it. He threw in DeJuan Blair, who hadn’t played yet, and spent the next two possessions admonishing Splitter and certifiably scaring the living hell out of Boris Diaw and everybody else who wasn’t on the floor. This kind of stuff worked in the late 1800s, when overcoming shame was a badge of honor and Tim Duncan was a rookie. But it sure as hell doesn’t work now.

Greg Popovich was talking to a whole different generation right then. He was talking to a team with Robert Horry and Bruce Bowen on it. They’re all out of Robert Horrys and Bruce Bowens.

The Thunder went on a 9-2 run. San Antonio’s time was up.

James Harden and Westbrook put them away. The superteam that the Heat were supposed to be was quietly and simultaneously assembled in Oklahoma City, fairly and without any creepy, underhanded backroom dealing in clubs throughout Toronto and Miami and Cleveland years beforehand.

Durant and Westbrook and Harden—a true, vicious Big Three if I ever saw one—grew as a team and invited Derek Fisher in to give them a last push out of the cold, dark cellar. He hit a leaner with two minutes left. It gave the Thunder a six-point lead that they never lost. The Thunder became the first Western Conference team since 1998 to make the NBA Finals not named the Mavericks, the Lakers, or, yes, the Spurs.

Now they go either to Boston to prove the same point but louder, or to Miami to prove a much bigger one.

The point, by the way, is this: This is the Thunder’s decade. —Ben Collins

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  • deafballer

    great game!Durant is starting to prove that he can be the most clutch player in the NBA right now in the 4th quarter.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Jahmai

    What a game, what a moment.

  • http://slamonline.com Spaceship Jay

    ‘They got every whistle possible.’- Tim Duncan

  • Da-Meat-Hook

    I called it. All you know-it-all internet GMs were wrong! Yes, especially you nbk and Allepeanut head. I’m going to make another bold prediction. Miami wins tonight and game 7. They take the title in 7 games. I hate the Heat but Stern has already decided.

  • EGOT

    Good job, good effort.

  • http://redoftoothandclaw.ca/ niQ

    I said OKC in 7, I guess 6 will do =)

  • http://slamonline.com Caboose

    Talent beat superior coaching. Brooks made almost no adjustments in the second half and they still won. Thunder may as well go ahead and get fitted for their rings now…and scratch monkey balls and sniff.

  • thegfunk

    I thought what was missing for the Spurs was giving the rock down low to Tim Duncan late in the 4th quarter, the Thunder were not doubling the big man in the post. The spurs panicked and took threes which they died by.

  • robb

    Those kids are relentless. I love how they play without fear, they don’t panic, they just keep attacking and playing hard.

  • RunNGun

    KG vs KD… make it happen, LeChoke!

  • http://redoftoothandclaw.ca/ niQ

    Great write up btw!

  • http://thosefishtacosarethetits.blogspot.com Chris_Griff_3

    But, the way they’re playing, KG & Rondo are a whole ‘nother monster than Duncan and Parker were.

  • Mike From Spain

    I was rooting for the Spurs, but this Thunder team has the makings of greatness…

  • T-Money

    spurs got some tough, tough whistles but that’s not why they lost. i actually think pop blinked first and overreacted. spurs got where they are playing 10 guys and limiting manu and tim’s minutes so they could go all out in the last 6 minutes of a game. all of a sudden, he starts manu plays splitter and blair 1 minute each and chews them out.. bonner gets dropped from the rotation… he goes with a neal-parker backcourt, plays leonard 40 minutes. too many changes. guys were out of their comfort zone. except that dude from port arthur, you know he would go hard.

  • T-Money

    as for tonight’s game, if lebron doesn’t at least go out guns blazing (i.e. taking charge of the offense, shooting at least 25 times), i’ll start to believe the narrative.

  • Da-Meat-Hook

    They’d still beat the Celts at most in 6 games. Celts couldn’t handle those Philly kids running all over. They damn sure can’t handle the Thunders. Kinda like how ya moms couldn’t handle my Thunderous c…..

  • http://slamonline.com Ben Osborne

    Nice write up, Ben!

  • http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba ti-sizzle

    @DMH …unt?

  • fruizm

    For the first time in my life I wanted the Spurs to win…but no.

  • tpathi1

    Congrats to the thunder, with that being said, in no way do I want the Chicago Bulls (my team) to even think about pursuing James Harden. I used to give him praise for his game, but he went over the top after the pregame show…talking about how he studies Ginoblis footwork and game and bla bla, why didn’t he mention he studies the flopping too? The NBA is way too talented these days to have these clowns run around and ‘influence’ calls with acting. The fact that coaches probably teach these guys to do it is despicable, I swear if Harden was a friend of mine, I would tell him straight up to stop that act. On another note, I really do like KD’s game, but does anyone else think that he gets way too many whistles in his favor? I mean the man averaged just as many ft’s in the regular season as Lebron and Howard, and he probably averages more in the playoffs. Not to say that he is not deserving, I just don’t look at KD as a physical ball player. Its like every single foul committed on him gets called, but calls are often missed with the other superstars in the league. KD got the juice but I dont remember him being the MVP. What gives??

  • http://nba.com GP23

    I’ve still got Heat winning it all. So do you think the Spurs missed somebody like Bruce Bowen to shut down KD? I don’t know…

  • BlackStar

    OKC surprised the hell out of me. They are gangsta and have no regard for their elders at all! But think about this – Durant, Westbrook and Harden are 23 and younger while Miami’s Big 3 are 27 and older. If OKC wins this year, it might become exponentially harder for Bron to win a ring because OKC will only get better (provided they can keep the team intact). Durant can turn into MJ and keep a number of today’s stars from winning rings. Crazy …

  • Da-REAL-Meat-Hook

    @ ti-sizzle, that just made my day, Brother!

  • Mike From Spain

    I like KD, I like Harden, I like Ibaka. I don’t like Westbrook much and I can’t stand Perkins. All from the perspective of a sports fan of course… what do I know about them

  • BlackStar

    And the funny thing is that Portland had a chance to select both MJ AND Durant, but went with big men. SMH … Epic failures to the highest degree.

  • http://redoftoothandclaw.ca/ niQ

    @GP23, they’re grooming Kahwi Leonard to be their next Bruce Bowen. He’s still just a rookie though, so he’s got a lot of room to improve.

  • http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba ti-sizzle

    @tpathi1 KD gets calls, because like you said he’s deserving. He’s just a horrible mismatch for anyone and no one can stop him effectively without fouling him a couple of times here and there. His release is so high, it’s normal for people to hit him accidentally when trying to block him. At the same time, he’s too quick for the bigs, so they end up fouling him when trying to keep up with him or trying to get into position before him. He’s a crafty player and most of the time the fouls are obvious enough that they will get called.

  • http://slamonline.com Datkid

    lmao cosign da-meat hook. Miami wins in 7.

  • tpathi1

    @ti-sizzle, i hear you and i get it..but this man has made a career from the ft line and he is only 23 yrs old. He is a mismatch, but isnt guarding D Rose a mismatch, or LBJ? My take is that he gets all the calls because like Kobe, they have skinny frames and when someone fouls them the effects are a lot more clear to the ref. Whereas if your Lebron or D Rose type who are ‘Big’ at their positions, they bounce off that kind of contact and still can put up a quality shot at the rim..most of the time they will miss bc they are getting fouled but the refs only sees the end result which is a shot hitting the rim. I just feel like he gets way too many ticky tack calls, its just too much, like he the next Jordan or something but he hasn’t even won a ring yet. Its been like this for the past two years for him. IDK i just wish the NBA went back to hand checking and no zone defense…KD is re writing the history books with the way the current rules are in place. The pace he is setting right now will have him going down as a top ten of all time.

  • bike

    It did seem like the Spurs unraveled in the 3rd after Pop’s outburst. It was like Pop was saying to himself ‘I see what’s coming and I can’t do a dam^ thing about it’.
    On another note, rumor has it several Portland front office guys were seen weeping in a dark downtown bar.

  • davidR

    that ginobli offensive foul on harden while setting a screen in the 4th was huuuuge.
    it nullified leonards 3, gave manu his 5th foul and sent him to the bench.
    even worse, harden already had his head cocked back BEFORE the contact.
    spurs just couldnt catch a break.
    regardless, good isht to the thunder.

  • http://slamonline Brion

    The clouds and rain feel extra depressing this morning in Seattle.

  • http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba ti-sizzle

    @tpathi1 You’re probably right about how refs perceive fouls on certain physiques. Durant is basically a tall shooting guard, so he gets shooting guard calls. Just for perspective though, while Durant’s career fta is 7.9 per game, Lebron’s career fta is 8.5. Rose’s career fta is 5.0, but I think that has to do with him driving “recklessly” to the rim too often. Speaking of preferential treatment from the refs dwyane wade’s career fta is 8.6. Durant may average high fta, but IMO most of the fouls are warranted. The NBA rulebooks are definitely different now, but players gotta adjust. Durant will probably win a title if not this year, then next.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Who wrote the series preview? Was it Cub?
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    Whoever it was, you were right about calling it in 6, good work. Your crystal ball is on the money.

  • http://www.soundcloud.com/tray-5 T-Ray

    The game was probably the best one of the conference finals. OKC got a lot of whistles but they were attacking. Harden flopped twice but for the most part the calls were legit. Since they beat the Lakers I guess I’ll be rooting for them to bring the title and beat either the Celtics or Heat.

  • http://www.sportsgrid.com/media/shaq-kobe-highlights/ shutup

    Cub called the Thunder in 7. I don’t want to take anything away from Durant’s game, dude has been balling out of his mind, and I think the Thunder’s success directly correlates to the love of his game in the off-season all those league games kept him in shape, when a lot of players came in slow after expecting a lockout. With that being said how is anyone supposed to guard someone when they get to set a moving screen on almost every possesion? In the third when the game turned either Ibaka or Perkins set the pick in the high pick-and-roll for Durant and maybe one out of like 12 possessions they set a legal pick. Stern said he wants flopping looked into and goaltending changed but really these moving screens need to be addressed, these players are talented enough that they don’t need another advantage. I don’t think the refs were that bad some questionable calls, the one in the fourth where Y hit that 3 and they called it on Ginobili sticks out in my mind but I don’t make it a point to complain about those sort-of calls. Good luck to the Thunder and I will be rooting for them to take it all.

  • http://www.dimemag.com Showtime

    As i predict OKC in 6… Am i Nostradamus or what…even stuck to it when the spurs had 2-0 but this not and odd year so it just didnt add up for Timmy. I go out on a limb ,when heat makes finals them in 6, iF and do mean if they lay down and boston close out..ehh OKC in 5…

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Ah damn, then your Crystal Ball needs a new antenna.

  • http://slamonline.com Nella

    Big props to OKC. As much as I wanted to see the Spurs/Celts (and TD possibly getting a 5th ring), what OKC did to turn around this series was damn impressive. They took out a team that looked near invincible with solid adjustments and a lot of athleticism. Will be interesting to see how they come out in the Finals, regardless of who they are playing.

  • Ill Smith

    Great game & series from KD & the Thunder. For a young team to not fold after going down 2-0 vs a juggernaut on a roll says a lot about the entire teams character, which usually derives from the star player. & following KD’s relentlessness they beat a deeper, hotter & better-coached team. I named Durant MVP this year & never felt better about it. That 3rd quarter he fed off the crowd & showed his team the way. Some beautiful basketball from Tony P from tipoff, a classic Duncan game & Cap’n Jack came out bustin but OKC was never shook & played some marvelous ball.

  • permaculture james

    hats off to OKC – they took it and deserved it.

  • davidR

    shutup, there was also that and1 westbrook got on parker off the backdoor cut. westbrook went up off balance because he reversed it, and fell down. parker didn’t touch him, but the refs call the foul and count the bucket.
    that pretty much sealed the game.

  • davidR

    and i feel you on the screens. perkins pretty much does it every time.
    but, there are so many other teams that set illegal/moving screens. it’s not just the thunder.
    it’s definitely something that needs to be looked at though, cuz you’re right. how can you hope to guard someone without handchecking, and having to deal with illegal picks?

  • Da-REAL-Meat-Hook

    The Thunder now get a few days off. Does a long layoff hurt of help them?

  • tpathi1

    @shutup i think the only way for all of this to change is if you just let grown men be grown men..the rules need to change back to the way they were in the 80s and 90s..there are way too many talented players in the league right now that are just abusing the current rules. The flopping by james harden swung momentum in the thunders favor (i think) and it just got worse as he did it again and again. This one guy is pretty much making me root against the thunder to win it all this year. I wonder what KD and Westbrook think of this guy sometimes..they know that the rest of the league and non thunder fans think he is the biggest lame and thats accepted but they tolerate it cause he plays on their team

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    DMH – No layoff in these playoffs hurts anybody. All of these guys need a rest. Even the young Thunder.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Wowsers. KD! This team is pretty special. If only they could somehow keep them all together…

  • http://www.soundcloud.com/tray-5 T-Ray

    Cosign nbk everyone needs a break this year in particular. Legit question for the slammily but if KD wins a ring this year do you think he’ll surpass LeBron has the best player in the L? If yes/no how so?

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    No.
    .
    If you put LeBron on the Thunder, do you think they get worse?
    .
    That should answer that question.

  • http://www.soundcloud.com/tray-5 T-Ray

    Ah good answer. I personally think LeBron would still be the best player in the L. But I guarantee you that ESPN will bring this up if the Thunder win it all. I’m willing to bet all the money in my piggy bank.

  • tpathi1

    @nbk, although I would like to agree with you, you do pose an interesting question…KD has come up clutch and won games during crunch time for the Thunder in the playoffs and regular season..LBJ has had serious issues for the past couple years performing late in games.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Look, LeBron is a better defender. A better playmaker. And he’s more efficient. As quickly as you argue Durant comes up big in the clutch, I’ll argue that the Thunder just wouldn’t need a great clutch performance. I’ve always been in the, “the first 44 minutes are more important than the last 4 minutes” camp. And I ain’t leavin.

  • Da-REAL-Meat-Hook

    Perception is often different from reality. Durant will indeed be perceived as the best player in the league. I honestly think he will even if they don’t win it all. Lebron will still be the best player, but Durant is the better pressure performer…Like nbk’s mom with my camera on :)

  • tpathi1

    all i am saying is if you take away the games that KD has won for the Thunder during crunch time and replace them with losses as this would be more than likely what happens if LBJ took his spot (based on his past performances) you are looking at a different thunder team. KD changed the complexion of the LA series wit the huge three and the dallas series with a game winner if i remember properly.

  • tpathi1

    AT the end of the day I would definately take LBJ before Durant for all the reasons you mentioned, but I also thought that the Miami Heat wouldn’t have to worry about clutch performances either cause as you say “the first 44 minutes are more important than the last 4″ but time and time again the Heat are in a position where they need a clutch performance to win a game.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    The Thunder are extremely more talented than the Heat. It’s not even remotely close. If you put Durant on the Heat you think they would improve? Just think about how much the Heat would suffer defensively.
    .
    Durant is a great great great player. But let’s not be irrational. LeBron is clearly better.

  • Da-REAL-Meat-Hook

    The only thing rash around here is this thing on my arse.

  • tpathi1

    I really do hope your right..and I hope the stupid Heat win this series right now with Boston. That way this can all be settled this year who the better player is!

  • http://Roosterteeth.com Caboose

    Cool, someone just posted as me. Anyways, that was the worst refereed game since Lakers Kings 2012. Kendrick Perkins set a total of 19 moving screens (I counted). The Spurs couldn’t touch Kevin Durant without a foul call. But Kawhi gets HIT STRAIGHT IN THE HEAD, and it’s out of bounds off of him. Smh, screw the NBA, they’re robbing us of competition, and giving us an act. Heat in 7. Pathetic.

  • tpathi1

    I have a bet going on with a friend..the bet was made at the beginning of the playoffs, we agreed that IF both the heat and thunder make it to the finals AND the thunder win that a. Westbrook takes the MVP or b. Durant takes the MVP. I chose Westbrook. I just can’t see Durant wrecking LBJ in 4/7 games or throughout the series.

  • bike

    LeBron is clearly the better player but if Durant gets a ring you can bet there will be endless debates that argue Durant has more character because he stuck it out with his team, he’s a proven winner, more clutch, a better individual, a new breed, etc. etc. blah, blah, blah, blah
    Here is to hoping OKC and MIA meet, it becomes a classic playoff, and goes 7 games with MIA winning.

  • Bola

    Lebron better than Durant? At what if i may ask. Defense maybe, but what else again. PA-LEASE. Did you see how Durant handled Dallas, Lakers and Spurs. y’all forget it’s the same Dallas and Spurs that whipped Lebron in the final. Durant allday, everyday. Dude doesn’t need a huge body to impose himself on the game he’s the game himself. I bet you even if Lebron can beat the celtics he probably don’t want it with Durant.

  • http://www.soundcloud.com/tray-5 T-Ray

    Bola neither the Spurs nor Dalllas were the same teams that Bron faced.

  • http://Roosterteeth.com Caboose

    T-Ray, you can’t reason with an unreasonable person. Teams are obviously the exact same as they were many years ago, right? Players and personnel don’t change; that’s ludicrous. (sarcasm).

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    I’ll take Durant.
    Never woulda guessed would ya?
    He has all the intangibles that I love in a NBA player. Also, his length in combination with a passion for playing defense has made him into a very good defensive player. He is a different type of a defender. He can’t lock you down as easily as LeBron can, but he can block your shot better and he can disrupt passing lanes more, while still being quick/long enough to get back and contest. We should not sleep on him defensively anymore. He’s proved he is a solid defender. I’d put my money on Durant on everything not ‘passing the ball’ related.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    Yeah because the current dallas squad was just as good as last year’s championship squad and the spurs are just as good as that 2007 championship squad. Do people even read what they type before hitting submit comment?

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    People like Bola, and (especially) this mysterious use everyone else’s moniker to say ridiculous BS person, is why Twitter > Slamonline. I may be outta here for a while fellas. The off-season/end-of-the-playoffs is always plagued with trolls like the underside of a bridge in fantasy land. And this year is looking absolutely awful.

  • Da-REAL-Meat-Hook

    Thanks for writing the word sarcasm right next to your pos,t Caboose. Your wit and humor is just too sophisticated for anyone to catch. It was so needed.

  • http://slamonline.com p

    Congrats to the Oklahoma City Sonics!!!! Yep, I said it…

  • Da-REAL-Meat-Hook

    Fakeshow, big surprise you’d pick anyone over anti-Kobe. You’re just jealous because Lebrawn-no brains is better than Lobe.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    Lake, Durant doesn’t disrupt the passing lanes better than LeBron and he’s not yet a very good defensive player.

  • http://Roosterteeth.com Caboose

    Lake, is that why LeBron was on All-Defensive 1st Team? And why LeBron averaged more steals than Durant and about the same number of blocks? The only arguments you can make for Durant>LeBron are better scorer (not by much) and “clutch,” (a stupid stat). Their defensive abilities aren’t close. Remind me, how did Stephen Jackson shoot last night?

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Please don’t tell me you people think Lakeshow views LeBron rationally? I thought this was established.

  • http://Roosterteeth.com Caboose

    It’s fun to watch people try to rationalize the irrational. Like defending evolution but denying global warming simultaneously.

  • tpathi1

    Durant to me is a solid defender if he wants to be…Lebron is the best defender in the game right now

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    I know it’s natural for people to jump to conclusion and hop on the “KB is better than LeBron” bandwagon after last night’s game but let’s all remember that a 22yr old LeBron led the cavs to the Finals with Larry Hughes/Big Z as his running mates and Eric Snow/Sasha Pavlovic playing major minutes. That’s totally different from the cats KD has running with him.

  • tpathi1

    lets talk more serious issues.. what are your guys takes on James Hardens flopping? What about flopping in general in the NBA? My take is as follows..flopping is gay. Put it this way, if my friend was James Harden I would be sure to call him after every game and tell him to cut that ish out. If I was in the NBA and playing against him, I would hate his guts and take about his mom on the court. IF i was a teammate of his, I would know this..that I don’t like the fact he flops, the rest of the world doesnt like the fact he flops, but I would be forced to treat him like my gay son…(i dont really want my son to be gay, but I would just accept it).

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Kobe was 1st team all defense for like the last decade. Nuff said.
    .
    Wait, not nuff said. You also said that clutch-ness is “a stupid stat.” It’s not a stat. So maybe that’s why you don’t understand it’s importance. It’s an obvious thing you can see when you watch a player play.
    .
    Steals can come throughout the flow of a game really easily. I have seen Durant be a better defender in crunch time than Bron in the playoffs. He is plainly just better at blocking shots also.
    .
    Oh, and who was guarding Paul Pierce on that 3 point shot the other night? See, kinda stupid to bring up something like someone being unconscious shooting the ball as a case of “bad defense.”

  • Bola

    Excuses and excuses. He’s a better defender. he can disrupt the passing lanes. How come Rondo is scoring 44 points. Champions will be champions. Lebron aint a better player than Durant. Sure he’s better than Wade probably Miami best player right now. But in my books great players have winning mindset not imma just pass the ball to Wade to take a 3. Case closed. Durant aint better dude still has a long way but like soemone said when durant wants to defend he can. But Lebron>Durant. Hell no. I’m already seeing them as equals.@ JTaylor21 yes Lebron led Cavs to the finals but we all know how that went. But i can assure you Durant and OKC will fight till 48 minutes of basketball is up. That’s the difference.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    smh.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    It is hard to take someone seriously when they say that “Durant has been a better defender in crunch time than LeBron”. Not only that was an extremely foolish statement but I guess playing defense during the first 47mins of a game doesn’t matter anymore. Oh….lawdy

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Lakeshow is literally so anti-LeBron it makes him unintelligent. Seriously. When LeBron is part of the subject matter, Lakeshow’s opinion is completely worthless.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    In case any of ya’ll didn’t notice. Mr. Durant is more efficient than LeBron also.
    Taylor if you don’t know what the difference between a steal in the 1st quarter and one in the final minutes of a close game, that is once again, on you brotha.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    By efficient you are purely talking about shooting %.
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    LeBron is still a more efficient basketball player. Sorry charlie. Even broken logic can’t fight a fact. Or maybe it can. But that just takes the right mixture of stupidity and ignorance.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    .LeBron’s player efficiency rating in the post season 30.64
    .Durant’s player efficiency rating in the post season 28.02
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    .LeBron’s NBA(.com) efficiency rating in the post season 30.1
    .Durant’s NBA(.com) efficiency rating in the post season 29.4
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    .LeBron’s Offensive Win Shares in the post season 2.8
    .Durant’s Offensive Win Shares in the post season 2.7
    .LeBron’s Defensive Win Shares in the post season 1.3
    .Durant’s Defensive Win Shares in the post season 0.6
    -
    .Is that clear enough?

  • http://www.sportsgrid.com/media/shaq-kobe-highlights/ shutup

    @caboose I knew it was more than ten i didnt bother counting be cause it so upsetting to see what I felt was the best game of the playoffs so far plagued with so many moving screens. One play Durant didnt even take the pick and Perkins initiated contact and freed Durant for a 3 and still no call. I realize the only thing I can do is complain about it, but its just frustrating seeing so many of them, one or two sh!t even 5-6 I wouldnt have had a problem but it seemed like every play in the 3rd was a moving screen and when Jackson did fight through it he got called for a foul. The feet are shuffling theyre leaning into them and there was one play where Perk set like 3 moving screens in ONE play, the third of which was like a hip check, or some boy boy back that azz up type ish. Like I said the other no-calls happen its as much part of the game as anything else, but such blatant disregard for the rules should have been curbed early in the 3rd. I’m done complaining, sorry I just had to get that off my chest again. As for the doppelganger running around here its not funny, cut it out, or if your gonna do it at least put an effort into it so its actually funny.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    Lake, what does steals have to do with playing great defense? Oh wait…I get it. You’re one of those cats that look at steals/blocks and automatically equates players with good numbers in those categories to be great defenders. Sorry…I have once again overestimated your basketball knowledge.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    It’s clear. Chrystal clear. You like those stats and think they show something other than digits that are contextual and have nothing to do with what needs to happen in order to win a championship. I have never needed to look at MJ’s, Magic’s, Kobe’s “Win Shares” or
    “efficiency ratings” to know that they are/were the best.
    Same with Durant right now.

  • http://slamonline.com Kevin Durant

    I am great but LeBron is better. I’m just gonna continue to get better and play my game, and help my teammates win.

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    LOL exactly what I mean. You can’t bring up efficiency and then act like its irrelevant one comment later, unless your stupid.

  • Bola

    You know what skill Durant has that Lebron doesn’t have? Mindset. And that is huge.

  • tpathi1

    1999-2005 = weakest era in NBA basketball history; all of the rules of the game changed ie: no handchecking, zone defense, the dotted line moved outwards to encourage flopping etc. All of this happened because the stars im about to mention could not keep tv viewers entertained. Kobe, Duncan, Shaq, KG being the best in that era does not mean sh** in the grand scheme of things IMO. Post 2005 the league got real healthy real quick…its time to bring back real basketball for fans to watch, bring back 80s/90s ball!!!

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Well I know that you guys care about efficiency, so I brought it up. I could care less for the most part. I just WATCH the game. It has boded well for me in the past.
    JTaylor, wait juss 1 minut. U mean say steal + block dont = gud defence? But, durr I taught it was defensive 2 stl bloks.
    My world is upside down right now.
    Naw, what I mean… is what I said…. Wow, what a thought.
    I said Durant is better at blocking shots than LeBron. Guess what, that’s true and that matters. Guess what? It’s a good thing to be able to block shots better than someone else. Shockers I know.

  • tpathi1

    @bola agreed. @NBK i think most people with a brain will agree with you that LBJ is the better baller, but as the great one once said in his book ‘I cant Accept Not Trying’ “the game at this level is 10% skill and 90% mental” LBJ turns into a mental midget as the game goes on and that should not be overlooked. This year I think he has been playing fantastic, thus far he has had one of the best playoff runs ever, I hope he closes the deal but him and the miami heat are not trustworthy. As crazy as it sounds, a lot of people trust KD more than LBJ.

  • Layzie

    Durant has the better team. Lebron is the better player. Simple as that. Westbrook, Harden, Ibaka, Perkins, Thabo, & others all play major roles in OKC success. Not only Durant. Besides Lebron & Wade (Bosh been injured) MIA have nothing.

  • tpathi1

    If it comes down to one game, give me KD…if its about a whole season or a series, give me LBJ. Right now it is coming down to one game for LBJ and the Heat against the Celtics..that’s why i think they are about to lose tonight and go home, he cannot be trusted in this situation for a victory. I do think he will get his stats just not the W. That’s why I don’t understand why all these predictors are even saying that the Heat will win in 7..when in the recent past has LBJ ever won a game 7? Assuming the Heat get to the finals against the Thunder, then the Heat better win in 6. If it goes to 7 give me the Thunder because Durant is just more trustworthy.

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    I understand LeBron’s limitations and issues. I never said I’d rather have LeBron trying to score a bucket late in a game. I know what Durant is better at. And I will acknowledge when he does actually become a better player if/when that happens. But I’m not going to annoint him prematurely because he just got to the place LeBron was at just last season (with a worse team).

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Since “Mental Midgetry” does not have an advanced stat for the guys to look at and thus understand, it is kind of pointless. It doesn’t matter that it is a fact and if you WATCH basketball you see it. They need something like a digit with a decimal followed by 3 more digits in order for it to be seen. Just a heads up.

  • tpathi1

    the only issues LBJ has is the lack of good coaching that he has been surrounded by his whole career. He NEEDS a good coach. He needs a motivator not a x’s and o’s guy around him. I could only imagine the type of player and amount of success he would have if Phil Jackson came to coach him. His ego is out of this planet, I never seen Spo one time even try to check him. I did see Wade scoff at LBJ a couple times, I don’t think he looks at Wade differently for it, I just think that he has to respect you to really listen to you. The only type of coaches that he would respect are the ones that have rings already, he desperately needs a coach that will challenge him both in the media and in practice at games all of that. If and when that happens, the sky is the limit for him, but if it doesnt happen soon he will just go down another Elgin Baylor or Oscar Robertson.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    LeBron averages 29.7 pts in elimination games. That’s 4th (min. 5 games) all-time. Jordan (31.3), Chamberlain (31.1) & Iverson (29.8)
    .
    He really is a mental midget.
    .
    I mean, how many guys in history have been to the finals twice as the best player on their team by the age of 27 while putting up those kind of numbers?
    – all of them. DUH

  • http://slamonline Brion

    Barkley called Lebron the best player on the planet yesterday.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    When people say that LeBron will go down as just “another” Baylor or Oscar, they do know that’s a compliment, right? At the same time that they are unknowingly giving LeBron a compliment, they are insulting Baylor and Oscar by acting like it’s a bad thing to be compared to those cats.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Brion, Barkley has been saying that for at least 4 years now.
    Co-Sign JTaylor, when was it ever a bad thing to be a basketball player compared to Oscar Robinson?

  • davidR

    i really need to join twitter if thats where you guys stay

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    yup

  • http://Roosterteeth.com Caboose

    It’s ok guys, Lake believes his opinion is more valuable than absolutely anything else in the basketball world. That’s why Durant is better. Why’s that hard to understand?

  • http://slamonline.com Caboose

    Durant is a better player than a guy who is better at nearly every major fundamental of the game than he is? Davidr, groupie much? You really need to be where they are? Why, you tryna wife these guys up? Nbk loves the oh so intelligent chatter of grown men on a site named Twitter, where grown men “tweet”.

  • http://Roosterteeth.com Caboose

    ^ Not the real Caboose.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    Lake, we all know you like Justin Beiber.

  • http://slamonline.com Caboose

    Stop using my name troll.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    Which is the real Caboose?

  • http://Roosterteeth.com Caboose

    I like the Orlando Magic, I cosign nbk a good amount, I’ve complimented shutup, I respect LakeShow but argue with him often, and I believe that the NBA twisted the hand of the refs last night. I’m the real Caboose, I posted at 8:54pm.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    WTF?!?!?!

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    okay nvm I believe you.

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    So uhh, the refs were really on fire tonight.

  • Da-REAL-Meat-Hook

    I’m the real Caboose. I go to UC Berkley and act like it’s Wharton. I’m a virgin who spends all my time co-signing dudes on this website. I rarely have my own opinion. I’ve never had a girlfriend. I’ve never played a game of basketball in my life but think I can speak on the game. I was always the last kid picked, then they would just tell me to sit down. Never even got to dribble a ball. Boo hoo for me.

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