Wednesday, July 25th, 2012 at 9:40 am  |  250 responses

CJ Watson Says Deron Williams is the NBA’s Best Point Guard


CJ Watson is the newest Brooklyn Net, and he’s doing his best to fit in with Deron Williams and company. Watson claims that DWill is the L’s best point guard, this despite having recently played alongside Derrick Rose. From the NY Post: “C.J. Watson spent the past two seasons playing behind Derrick Rose in Chicago. But even after seeing the NBA’s 2011 MVP up close on a daily basis for the past two seasons, Watson said he thinks his new teammate, Deron Williams, is the league’s premier point guard. ‘I always thought Deron was the best point guard in the league,’ Watson said yesterday during his introductory press conference at the Nets’ practice facility. ‘When everyone asks me who is the toughest point guard, I always say him. Between him and D-Rose, it’s pick your poison.’”

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  • ALD

    i would say its a tie between dwill and cp3. They both do what their teams asks and you cant go wrong with either. WE will get our answer this season hopefully.

  • ALD

    @allenp i cp3 would have had the same if he had stayed in N.O

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Don’t worry guys, it’s simple, I got you:
    1. CP3
    2. D-Will
    3. Rondo
    4. Russ West
    5. Tony Parker
    6. Steve Nash
    When healthy I have Rose as #2, or 3.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Well Dwill shot 40 percent cast as the man scorer and distributor on a team that had a dearth of talent.
    It’s incredibly difficult to be the only credible offensive option on a team AND be the player tasked with getting other subpar players shots.
    Who was the second best scorer on that Nets team? Humphries, Morrow?
    Paul always had David west, a guy who can score on his own and who spaces the floor. Rose had a collection of NBA level talent even if he didn’t have another superstar.
    So, to me, the shooting percentage was a byproduct of the team and the fact taht Deron took some horrible shots at times.

  • pposse

    touchy touchy..its a fact CP3 got swept NBK and another pill u gotta swallow is your boy CP3 will always be injured in the playoffs so stop with the rhetoric “this man was hurt – pulled groin” bla bla And when did Kobe get swept out of the playoffs? Last year, thats right he did get swept. He too should be ashamed of himself for that haha. And Kobe being overrated is pretty much always a topic for discussion. If i am correct you believe he is outside of the top 10 all time, while most fans have him in their top 5. Is that not ‘overrating’ someone? When is the last time a team with two starting all stars (both deserving) got swept out of the playoffs? Look that up, that might be easier for you to understand.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    And Bron nbk. He got swept too. Most player experience a playoff sweep at least once.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Slick Ric

    ALD sounds foolish, how are Boozer etc…bums now. explain?

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    – I know Lakeshow, I was just trying to name a the best guys with the most elite teammates who have been swept.

  • ALD

    lol @slick ric boozer is a good player but i think he was better when he played with dwill. Boozer look like a top 10 pf. Half of boozers contract should be to dwill.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Slick Ric

    Deron williams is the best PG right now…………while Rose is recovering.

  • ALD

    cosign @allenp Dwill had to shoot alot because no one else was consisten. Brooks and hump were the other two that can handle but they were very inconsistent

  • http://www.slamonline.com Slick Ric

    So now He’s good but you said he was a bum….Boozer has the same problem that Utah jazz fans claimed he had with them and that was lack of production in the playoffs but playing for Chicago instead of utah, that glaring flaw is exposed more. Otherwise he’s been good during the season and Korver has definitely been good, ronnie has been the only one who’s seen regression but that was even before he got on the bulls…He was traded from the jazz for a reason.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    pposse are you saying you aren’t literate? cuz i posted what a half hour ago? a comment from me, in may, predicting the Clippers would get swept. — Oh and the 1999 Los Angeles Lakers were Swept by the Spurs with both Kobe Bryant and Shaquille O’Neal being All Star Starters the year before and after (there was no all-star game that year, as they would have been starters then to)

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Shaq and Penny got swept out of the playoffs in back to back years and they not only had two all-stars but they had two ALL-NBA players.
    Detroit with isiah and Joe dumars got swept.
    Lakers with Kareem and Magic.
    Kobe and Shaq got swept several times. If Kobe wasn’t an all-star at that point, either Eddie Jones or Nick Van Exel were.
    Getting swept happens to a lot of cats.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    getting swept happens. it doesn’t prove anything either way. if it did, we wouldn’t talk about Magic (or should i say “tragic”) Johnson and how great he was throughout his career. Or Kobe Bryant and how great he is (and no, the majority of people do not have Kobe in the top 5, he is only overrated by Kobe fans – which shouldn’t be surprising).

  • http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-talk/2011 Diesel

    To everyone relying on CP’s shooting percentages to crown him the greatest point guard in the game, do you also think that Steve Nash is right up there? Two seasons ago, CP and Nash put up almost identical numbers. Nash’s were actually better. Nash is one of the best shooters, efficiency wise, in the history of the NBA. He’s also a better passer than CP. The only thing he does worse is defend. Yet some of the same people trying to pump CP on this thread are the ones always trying to knock Nash. So which one is it, are Nash and CP both tied for best point in the game right now or is Nash just good, and CP may be a little overrated.

  • pposse

    Kobe finds solace in the fact that atleast the Mavericks went down as the champs that year. CP3 cant say that. Either way, if that doesn’t sway peoples opinions about Kobe a little bit (getting swept), then a logical person will be able to deduct thru reasoning that the one who is judging is not being objective. Dude had all the motivation in the world to win that ring (3 peat, phils last year, immortality etc.) Kobe was an infant in 1999, he gets a pass like Lebron. Shaq on the other hand..

  • Sérgio

    Allenp, I agree with you in respect to Deron’s body language. The guy showed that he is not a leader.
    I really understand the arguments for CP, Deron or Rose as the best PG in the league. But, to me, the crown belongs to Rondo, specially in the Playoffs. Dude had absurd Playoff runs in 09, 10, 11 and 12. He is BY FAR the best perfomer of the nowadays PGs in the postseason, having countless huge games in his resumé. F#ck, he is already the 3rd all-time in Playoff Triple Doubles, tied with Larry Freakin Bird!
    Obviously, he is still not a very good shooter (including midrange, 3 pts and free-throw), which is, to me, the only area where he is inferior to the other PGs in the discussion. But he is improving – anyone who watched the Playoffs, especially his Game 2 masterpiece against Miami, knows that he is slowly developing a stroke. And if his J becomes reliable…

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    nevermind i just went back and read pposse’s opinion. i’m sorry i argued with you. arguments that follow no logical reasoning and chance unicorn tails are absurd. you obviously think Derrick Rose is still the best PG in the league (never was) even after he tore his ACL, but since he’s hurt you just went and plucked the PG’s who made it the furthest in the playoffs and put them in order by who lasted the longest. Good Job. Uber Genius.

  • pposse

    are u seriously tryin to argue that its okay to get swept? That it has no impact on your standings as a ball player individually??

  • LA Huey

    Didn’t Kobe and Shaq get swept by the Jazz in the years before PJax got there?

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    chase*

  • LA Huey

    Nevermind, Allenp got it.

  • pposse

    look at my first response to AllenP it clearly explains my criterion for rating ball players. You didn’t read far enough. Do your due dilligence before judging me.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Diesel
    To say the only thing Nash does worse than Paul is to defend, is like saying the only thing George Bush does worse than Albert Einstein is think.
    Be reasonable.

  • LA Huey

    Getting swept only means something if it happened in a series where you were the overwhelming favorite. Otherwise, there’s a long list of great talents that experienced the wrong end of a sweep.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Slick Ric

    Now NBK is tripping, saying Rose was never the best PG in the league…..please.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    I did read it.
    .
    .”I place a higher (much higher than most here) weight on WINS and team success, stats are a distant third criteria.”
    .
    But you have Deron Williams (who won less, and had less team success – how you say those like they are different is another example of the stupidity of your POV) over Chris Paul.
    .
    Your argument is logicless and stupid. You can go ahead and quit trying to justify it. There is no way for you to make me believe you have a rational opinion that i give a damn about.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Slick, tally up all the non-Bulls fans here, see how many believe Derrick Rose was the best PG in the NBA at any point. I’ll wait.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    LA Huey
    Just about every great player in the history of basketball has been swept.
    Duncan.
    Robinson.
    Magic
    Jordan
    Isiah
    Kareem
    You name them and they’ve been swept, particularly since the League expanded.
    It’s an asinine argument. No serious uses that as the basis of their argument. Yes, getting swept looks horrible and it’s bad, but that can’t be the determining factor because it happens to just about every great player in history!
    And Rondo still can’t shoot reliably, either from the field or from the free throw line. I can’t put him above the top three until that changes. He’s awesome, amazing even, but he can’t shoot. Why can’t he shoot?

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    Playing superior defense is kind of a big deal.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Redd

    Holy..I just got out of class and we’re already at 100+ lol man D Rose gets people talking.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Redd

    LOUD NOISES

  • http://www.slamonline.com Slick Ric

    What does that mean? Stehpen curry is the only PG I have seen that was able to outplay Rose these last two seasons and that was only one game, otherwise; Rose has took it to every PG you can mention as being the best.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Redd

    Let’s be real, Rose has outplayed these so called greater point guards everytime he’s played them. Now without bias, do people honestly think Rose will be as dominant? I’m not sure, time will tell.

  • ALD

    derrick rose got ppl wet with his acrobatic layups, dunks , improved jumpshot and supposed humbleness. But he did not make his teamates better even tho i think that is a misunderstood concept.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Redd

    Slick beat me to it. If u watch basketball you’ll know Rose has dominated these PGs.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    Let’s just ignore the fact that the Bulls are the best defensive team in the NBA. So to just look at other PGs numbers in head-to-head matchups with Rose doesn’t tell the entire story.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Head to Head matchups in the regular season mean a whole bunch of absolutely nothing in the grand scheme of things. Absolutely nothing.
    .
    Derrick Rose was the best scoring PG in the NBA. And his team was built around his strengths better than any other team. But he was never the best PG. By any measure. He was well on his way, and really probably would have been had he stayed healthy. But he didn’t.

  • ALD

    drose was a dominat SCORER THATS IT… He is a small lbj..

  • pposse

    notice NBK how both your boys deron and cp3 are at the bottom of the list? Who really cares who 4 and 5 is? Thats just technicalities. Cp3 playoff impact was at its peak in 08, mark my words its all downhill from here for him. I gave the nod over CP3 for deron because he is bigger than him and head to head he owns him. I like cp3, i really do, but i’m not taking him NOW over any of the guys mentioned. They all are younger, take care of their bodies better, WIN more etc etc.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Why is it so difficult to discuss Rose?
    Dude was a beast, he needed to improve his passing and defense. He was top three in the League my estimation.
    But I’ve found that either people love Rose and can’t believe anyone else could be considered better, or they despise him and think he’s an overrated bum. There is very little middle ground with that guy for some reason.

  • pposse

    jtaylor then look at the win percentage.

  • ALD

    @pposse dwill kills cp3 head to head

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    Why should I?
    For the last two seasons, the Bulls have surrounded Rose with a better supporting cast than the ones surrounding DWill and CP.
    This isn’t boxing or tennis.

  • pposse

    yah allenP he needed to improve his assists cause being 8th on the regular season list for pg’s is so terrible. D Rose doesnt need to be compared to other pg’s in the game. He needs to be compared to the best all around basketball players in the world right now.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    pposse, maybe you just don’t possess the ability to argue rationally? If you are going to say something, and than contradict what your saying in the same argument (at any point, no matter where) – then it is safe for me to assume you don’t really follow or know what your talking about. You are just giving reasons that you think fit your argument. Sh*t you have Russell Westbrook as the 2nd best POINT GUARD in the NBA. You just base your argument on team success for the majority of your list. You don’t care who the teammates are. Who the coaches are. You discount Paul for losing as the best player next to another all-star. And boost up Westbrook while being the second best player next to the second best player on earth. Once again. Your argument is stupid and logicless.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    PPosse
    If he is 8th that means their are seven players ahead of him.
    But it’s cool. I tried being reasonable and that clearly is not going to work. Believe what you like.

  • pposse

    basketball games can be won single handedly. Any sport where one player can score 100 pts or 81 pts in a SINGLE game is barely a team game! Obviously to win it all you will need more than a one man team, but out of all team sports basketball is the one where you could potentially put all your eggs in one basket and have a shot to win. If you stick Will or CP on the bulls roster from last year, they are not better than they were.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Slick Ric

    Yall are underrating Roses defense as well…When Rose missed games this seasons, Rondo, D-Will, Jrue holliday, ty lawson, Russell westbrook all had their way with the back up PG’s of the Bulls and were able to beat them(the Bulls). So its not just the bulls defense as a team that has slowed these guys down, especially when you look at the fact that they’re not doing this with Rose in the line-up. Now it may not entirely be his defense that stop these guys but his attacking style wears these guys down and they cant keep up with him.

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