Wednesday, July 25th, 2012 at 9:40 am  |  250 responses

CJ Watson Says Deron Williams is the NBA’s Best Point Guard


CJ Watson is the newest Brooklyn Net, and he’s doing his best to fit in with Deron Williams and company. Watson claims that DWill is the L’s best point guard, this despite having recently played alongside Derrick Rose. From the NY Post: “C.J. Watson spent the past two seasons playing behind Derrick Rose in Chicago. But even after seeing the NBA’s 2011 MVP up close on a daily basis for the past two seasons, Watson said he thinks his new teammate, Deron Williams, is the league’s premier point guard. ‘I always thought Deron was the best point guard in the league,’ Watson said yesterday during his introductory press conference at the Nets’ practice facility. ‘When everyone asks me who is the toughest point guard, I always say him. Between him and D-Rose, it’s pick your poison.’”

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  • ALD

    JASON KIDD>DROSE

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Rose isn’t a bad defender. And this year he was much improved on his MVP season (statistically speaking). But he isn’t a top flight defensive PG either. Defensively, it goes something like (out of just the top PG’s in the league) Westbrook, Williams (when motivated), Rondo, Paul, Rose as i see it. Regardless though, Rose’s knee injury is definitely going to knock him down even further on that end.

  • http://Roosterteeth.com Caboose

    Man I knew this thread will get ugly. Let me try this, for fun. Take Parker, Paul, Rondo, Westbrook, and Williams.
    Ball handling: Paul>Williams>Rondo>Westbrook>Parker

    Scoring: Westbrook>Parker>Williams>Paul>Rondo

    Creating: Paul>Rondo>Williams>Parker>Westbrook

    Defense: Rondo>Paul>Williams>Westbrook>Parker

    Leadership: Paul>Parker>Rondo>Williams>Westbrook

    Athleticism: Westbrook>Williams>Rondo>Parker>Paul

    Ok, with that, I’ll try to rank them:
    1. Chris Paul
    —-Led Clips to 2nd round, superior passer, ruthlessly efficient, clutch
    2. Deron Williams
    —-Great size, good scorer, great ball handler, all around solid point guard skills
    3. Rajon Rondo
    —-Excellent defense, best passer, has championship ring, rebounder
    4. Tony Parker
    —-Finals MVP, crafty scorer, excellent teammate, excels in playoffs
    5. Russell Westbrook
    —-Best scoring point guard, great athleticism, not good passer

  • LA Huey

    Just to be clear, I was saying sweeps don’t count against you. Unless you were heavily favored against the team that swept you. Something like that does tarnish your name.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Redd

    Westbrook over Rose? A lot of drunkard in here.

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    The best PG rankings are this. Not going off las years performances but overall ability
    1. Derrick Rose
    2. Chris Paul
    3. Russell Westbrook
    4. Deron Williams
    5. Steve Nash
    6. Tony Parker
    7. Rajon Rondo
    8. Ricky Rubio
    9. John Wall
    10. Ty Lawson

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    *last years

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    tha’s not me.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    Caboose, Westbrook is a better defender than Rondo/CP/DWill. Apart from that, good list.

  • LA Huey

    “basketball games can be won single handedly. Any sport where one player can score 100 pts or 81 pts in a SINGLE game is barely a team game!” How many times has anyone scored more than 70 points in the league’s history? Better yet, how often has anyone outscored the entire opposing team?

  • pposse

    so KD is the second best baller in the world, but Russell Westbrook was just riding his coatail to the finals? Your right NBK Russ didn’t hold is own weight. He bowed down to Tony Parker in the WCF, and he didnt drop 42 in the finals. Maybe I don’t hold KD to this top flight level that you do. Was that ever a possibility. Does that change your opinion on MY logic on MY list? And yes, i will re-iterate to you again, I admit it, team success bears higher weight in my opinions, so what?

  • pposse

    i never said basketball wasnt a team game, but out of all the team sports there is basketball is by far the least team oriented.

  • MeloMan15

    I AGREE WITH CJ

  • http://Roosterteeth.com Caboose

    Defense is tricky, JT. Only because they all play different kinds of defense. I could put Russ higher, but it really is preference in terms of defense. Except Rose and Nash. They’re nowhere near these 5.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Slick Ric

    They’re nowhere near? I question if people actually watch Rose. LOL & SMH

  • http://www.slamonline.com Slick Ric

    They say perception is reality…….

  • pposse

    how can you guys say that about rose?? he plays good d! no where near nash level d! once again, rose’s primary responsibility is to move the pg to certain spots on the floor, NOT lockup. Thats the coach’s decision and not his.

  • LA Huey

    You cite a few anomalies while overlooking all it takes to play the game of basketball. I’m not what sure what you mean by “team oriented”? Like one overwhelming tide of a player can lift all the boats? One badazz pitcher or goalie can shut down another team so that a single point wins the game so how is basketball any less a team game than baseball/hockey/soccer?

  • pposse

    because there are less people involved!

  • SeanMagicJuan

    1. Rondo
    2. Westbrook
    3. D. Williams
    4. C. Paul
    5. D. Rose

  • LA Huey

    So less “team oriented” simply means fewer players involved? Haha. Got it!

  • pposse

    fewer players involved, means more opportunity for an individual i guess..so if you want to put it that simplistic then go ahead. I do think that the best athletes in the world are NBA players. Take cleveland lbj for example, it was him and 14 bums assembled and look how far he took them. AllenP out of every 4 games d rose plays only one guy will be a better passer than him

  • SeanMagicJuan

    When it’s winning time ( not in December-May) over the past 5 years, Rondo is head and shoulders above the PG’s with Westbrook looking like he will make a charge. All the other PG’s games can and will be affected by shooting meaning if they’re not scoring, the other parts of their game will suffer. Rondo can miss his first eight shots and you’ll know that he won’t be affect one bit plus Stoll might be working on a trip- doub.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Redd

    What’s the reasoning behind Westbrook being a top 3 PG? I see none lol.

  • LA Huey

    Redd, Westbrook mom is posting here.

  • SeanMagicJuan

    It’s never a “coach’s decision” to have one of his players “not lockdown”. Any coach would prefer that his players are able to individually defend the opponent without “funneling”.

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    Best PG rankings
    1. Dirk Nowitzki
    2. Kendrick Lamar
    3. Dwight Howard
    4. Jtaylor21′s mom
    5. Yao Ming
    6. Blake Griffim
    7. Andrew Bynum
    8. Tom Brady’s ass
    9. Erick Barkley
    10 Tyson Chandler

  • SeanMagicJuan

    Redd- Westbrook is D. Rose with drastically better defense. The C. Paul/ D. Williams point of view is based on 3 or 4 years ago. What meaningful playoff game has either really had? Ever? Paul looked horrible against San Antonio after looking pretty good against Memphis. I guess it’s not the difference of playing against Conley as compared to Parker but that CP was “injured”. Right?

  • http://www.newyorkshockexchange.com Shock Exchange

    So I see people on this site are finally warming up to the fact that certain guys have gotten the benefit of playing with “exceptionally more talent than the rest of the league.” No need to cite the source those fellas … the Shock Exchange is good.

  • smoove

    no Pg puts up digits like RONDO, they just have better jumpshots, but that is only 1 facet of the game….

  • SeanMagicJuan

    This is a typical box score.
    Rose-30 pts (11-29) 1-5 (3 pt) 5-8 (ft). 6 ast. 4 reb. 2 stl. 4 to’s.
    Rondo- 17 pts ( 7-16) 0-1 (3 pt) 3-6 (ft) 15 ast. 8 reb. 4 stl. 4 to’s.

  • pposse

    Not true Sean Magic, the Bulls play team defense. I heard thibs numerous times explain this to the media. It is not d rose’s assignment to lock up one on one, unless its the end of a game. He has to play within the defensive scheme.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Redd

    Westbrook is NOT D. Rose…lol. Rose is a better passer & better at keeping a feel of the game. He’s more smarter on the court too and has a drive unlike Westbrook & also quicker.

  • Sérgio

    Jtaylor, no way Westbrook is a better defender than Rondo. Rajon is a BEAST defensively.

  • SeanMagicJuan

    Westbrook with no Durant would put up the exact same numbers as D Rose in the regular season. In the playoffs, Westbrook is superior. Look at D Rose (MVP year) in the series vs Miami, now look at Westbrook’s vs Miami. The “fire” comment is laughable, Westbrook is known for being the fiercest of competitors. Rose is as laid back as they come, he NEVER brought the fight to Miami while Russ seemingly brings the fight to a pickup summer league game.

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    I’m starting to think that pposse is the biggest douche on this site.

  • SeanMagicJuan

    Pposse- You’re right in that every team has defensive schemes but most of the time NBA teams play man to man. In man to man, priority number one for each defender is to lockdown your man.

  • Lboogie

    I agree , Cp3 or Rondo…the way they run the team is different…its controlled and effective.

  • pposse

    sorry i challenged your thinking young nbk, dont talk to me like that you should know better than that.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Redd

    LOL Westbrook was doing ok because he has KD & he had Ibaka & Harden. Stop it, you’ve lost your mind to think Westbrook is better. If Rose was healthy he’d be starting on Team USA or least getting more PT than Westbrook..EASILY.

  • Lboogie

    Thats what i miss the most, not watching rose in this olympics…along with Blake Griffin and Dwight Howard. Do you know how badly we would destroy people This game wouldnt even be funny…The type of players we have are insane!!!!!

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    Pposse I’ll talk to you whichever way I want to talk to you. What are you going to do about it? Exactly

  • pposse

    are you trolling me right now? LOL this has to be the nbk troll

  • http://www.slamonline.com Slick Ric

    SeanMagicJuan…..SMH, You’re going to say westbrook is superior in the playoffs but conveniently forget he has KD & Harden? both of which who relieve pressure off of one another so therefore Westbrook was able to have ONE GREAT GAME while his other games look similar to that of Rose(against the heat) with KD and Harden to space the floor for him. It doesn’t matter if he would put up similar stats, Would he dominate other PG’s on a consistent basis like Rose does… every time Westbrook faces either CP3 or Tony parker, they completely outplay him and I believe tony parker dropped 42 points on westbrook and his superior defense.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Slick Ric

    Rose would do well against the Heat if he didn’t have to carry a team. Rose knows when to turn it on PLUS he how to. Westbrook can’t do the same. And I just saw everyone’s precious D-Will get croosed by JOSE CALDERON…Jose Calderon man.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Slick Ric

    ^^^The 5:01 pm comment is not me.

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    No this is not the troll stupid ass. The guy who did that stupid list of PG’s with Dirk Nowitzki and Kendrick Lamar is the troll.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Redd

    That’s the troll. And sorry Slick that was me didn’t notice that my name changed.

  • ctk

    Westbrook is gettin no respect rt now…he got the WHOLE WESTERN CONFERENCE comin up with ways to deal with him come playoff time …people sayin he too selfish he runs a top 5 O n the league…Durant got 3scoring titles ..Harden gettin buckets….BTW beside this past season he was avg more dimes than DERRICKROSE

  • http://www.slamonline.com Redd

    WHAT he has never averaged more than Rose minus his injury season.

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