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Tuesday, July 24th, 2012 at 10:05 am  |  98 responses

Kevin Love Finds Limited Playing Time With Team USA ‘Tough’


There are whispers that the powers that be at Team USA aren’t exactly with Kevin Love’s play and level of aggression thus far, which has resulted in Love not playing a whole lot. The star forward admits that he’s having a tough time proving to the coaching staff that he deserves more playing time. Per Sheridan Hoops: “Obviously I’d like to go out there and be playing with these guys, I really feel like I can help. I know my abilities and know what I’m capable of,’ Love said Monday. ‘You know, Coach K and I have talked about it — this isn’t 2010. I obviously played more in 2010, but I’m a completely different player now and a far better player. So we’ll wait and see what happens. I worked into my playing time in 2010, and hopefully that’ll happen here. I just need to find a way to get into a rhythm in limited minutes, which is tough.’ Love logged only 5 minutes of burn in the American’ 11-point victory over Brazil a week ago, played garbage time minutes in Manchester, England, against Great Britain after picking up three quick fouls without accumulating any other statistics in the first three quarters of that 40-point victory, then logged only seven minutes against Argentina with two rebounds and an assist, and no points. [...] Love is playing 25 pounds lighter than he was two summers ago in Turkey, which he says has been to his advantage. ‘That’s helped me. If you look at last season and the season before, I had a breakthrough season in 2010-11, and then last year I felt, and I still feel, I’m one of the best players in the league. I just need to get into a rhythm, and there’s no real chances out here to do that. I was playing more minutes in Turkey than I am now, and they can say I’m not playing great. But I didn’t touch the ball yesterday, and there’s nothing I can really do in that regard. As far as rebounding the ball, I’m always going to do that. But if they don’t think I’m playing great, then fine. But hopefully I can prove that I am once I get a chance to get out there. Guys like LeBron and Kevin and Carmelo are playing a lot of 4. I’ve been playing mostly 5, playing out of position, so who knows?’”

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  • http://slamonline.com jer

    What else do you expect him to say? its easy? The teams way too loaded so unless they decide to change up to play some bigs against argentina, brazil and spain. KLove is going to have to “TOUGH” it out lol

  • http://www.twitter.com/hurstysyd Hursty

    So go out there and guard someone Kevin. Might make a difference. Carmelo’s been subpar so far in International play this year. His +/- is one of the lowest on the team too. Chandler is at a ridiculously high number.
    John Hollinger was crunching numbers on Twitter the other day,

  • http://www.amazon.com sadeye2507

    He will get his chance today defending the bigs of Spain

  • http://www.twitter.com/_dfrance dfrance21

    The problem is defense is not his strong suit. They have enough scoring and 3 point shooting, they need the bigs to defend and rebound.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woWqSmichOo RunNGun

    Carmelo Anthony is just putrid. As for Kevin Love, he should learn how to play defense. Coach K can careless about his attitude. Until then, warm those benches K-LOVE.

  • FnF

    What shoe company is Kevin Love with? Thought so…

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    This is why CB1 in my opinion is still a better PF than Love.
    Without a doubt, Love puts up superior numbers but CB’s ability to adapt his game makes him better.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Then get better.
    Play better defense, develop a dependable back to the basket game and specialize in doing all the little things that make teams win. It’s not that hard.

  • http://thahiphopcorner.com Kevin

    I’d rather see Unibrow get more PT over Kevin Love. Especially against Spain

  • http://gmail.com z

    It gets on my nerves how much of a pass this cat gets from the media. If certain other players said this theyd be criticized as “selfish” but nope not kev! Wonder why… then again the media loses more and more credibility every day.

  • http://www.dimemag.com showtime

    this dude complain more than anything..do like wiz..play hard lol..

  • http://www.slamonline.com Nick Tha Quick

    From watching the past 3 exhibition games, KLove’s defense or lack thereof really stands out. It’s like night and day when he comes in for Chandler. He isn’t aggressive on the 60 billion pick and rolls all FIBA teams run. He takes bad angles to cut off drivers. Is usually late on rotations. He gets caught in that no man’s land of indecision. It also doesn’t help that he usually plays with Westbrook, who has been cheating a lot going for steals, leaving Klove to cover up behind him. And it’s like he’s pulling down 15 boards a game to make up for all this.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    pigmentation plays a role.

  • MirChilly

    If any other player makes them comments they’re automatically ripped!!! Let Kobe or Melo say that. The first nine comments would be about how selfish they are and how they’re not as good as they think. Yet this guy get’s pseudo encouragement. Hilarious. But then again, when has this guy ever not been about self?

  • http://gmail.com z

    No doubt pigment plays a role. For all the fantasizing that the usa is a post racial society the fact is that poverty levels are the highest theyve been in 50 years and we all know which demographics are at the bottom of the socioeconomic totem pole. When youre a member of the demographic thats at the top of the socioeconomic totem pole you get to complain about stuff constantly like this dude klove…all while being lauded by the mainstream. Post-racial lol…race itself is an imaginary concept invented and perpetuated by the haves who utilize race as a divisive issue amongst the have nots thus giving the rich MORE opportunities to screw em over…sigh…wake up america

  • T-Money

    klove has been complaining a lot this summer. sheridan has an agenda, he predicted that klove would be the 3rd best player on this team so he’s pushing that.

  • http://gmail.com z

    Cmon allenp drop some knowledge on me

  • T-Money

    what really doesn’t help his claim that he hasn’t gotten enough minutes to get going is that anthony davis has been ballin outta control with instant energy and impact in very limited minutes.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    The fact that he has the nerve to complain about not getting enough touches on a team like and the fact that no one in the media will criticize him irks me. Harden is going through a similar situation yet he hasn’t complained one bit. Same thing with AD. Those guys put their ego aside for the good of the team.

  • Orlando Woolridge (RIP)

    Maybe its me, but it seems like there are more and more articles showing up here where this guy seems to think he’s entitled to succeed. Somebody needs to humble dude before it gets out of control. He’s already on my “annoying as hell” list…and I know these players care deeply about what I think of them. Is he completely unaware of the holes in his game? Play some defense man!

  • Tempest

    Ironically, some of the people agreeing with love not playing due to his D would probably have been campaigning for griffin to get more minutes so they can see him dunk on people (while also playing far worse D than k-love and bricking anything more than 5 feet from the rim)

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Z
    You did just fine by yourself. People who want to know what’s up can see it for themselves. Those who would rather be blind are going to be blind.
    Like I said the other day, the only cat that gets an equivalent pass to Kevin Love is Kobe Bryant, and he earned that pass by helping to win 5 championships and building himself into an amazing player.
    Kevin Love has not done either of those things. And he regularly says and does things that get other players branded as selfish, flawed malcontents.
    The complexion for protection is still real. But, that isn’t a productive conversation to have, so I try to avoid having it unless I really feel up to it.

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    People are dead wrong up hear with their thoughts, Most superstars who have won rings get a pass. Kevin Love gets a pass, because he is overrated, nobody cares about him and his team sucks. He should not be on the team in my opinion. We needed some color on the team, to me is why. He needs to get relevant first. People always bringing up Kobe’s name, with dumb stuff. Kobe has earned his stripes and can say what he wants. Just because he is not a punk like, Republicans wear shoes, who cares people are dieing for my cheap labor shoes or who cares about the Black race issues, or social issues. Kobe is not a punk about speaking his mind like MJ.

  • Ash

    I thought he would get more playing time but like everyone has said he can’t play defensive. If he starts playing better D I’m sure hell get more playing time and his #s will improve. He’s a PF guarding Centers.

  • Lboogie

    KLOVE HAS to understand hes on a team full of hall of famers who have won championships and the fact that he had two good seasons, (one LOCKOUT) doesnt mean he should be getting mad burn. In the end OLYMPICS are NBA players CHARITY as they dont get paid…but they DO get paid in Commercial and international sales from the exposure. Kobe, Lebron, Durant….ISNT IT FUNNY one day Coack K decided to put a ALL NIKE lineup in deron, kobe, lebron, lebron while taking out melo and cp3, both jordan athletes. Its all bout the $$$ why do u think tayshaun and boozer never played. Michael redd michael redd michael redd michael redd….

  • http://www.slamonline.com nbk Troll

    K.Love is a clown. He gets sooo much credit but has not done anything but do good on a bad team. Should not have been a All-Star. HE stepped on a dudes head in game INTENTIONALLY, He complained about his formenr teamates, and now complaines about touches on a squad he has no business on. He gets a pass from the media for one reason. HE IS THE GREAT WHITE HYPE. The NBA would love for him to be the face of the league.(him and jeremy lin) NO TATS, NO BRAIDS!!

  • bike

    If he keeps this type of complaining up, he won’t get a ‘pass’ as some thinks he gets. This kind of bitching will eventually trump any advantage he supposedly has because of his skin color. It’s really stupid considering the caliber of players he is playing with.

  • bike

    If he keeps this type of complaining up, he won’t get a ‘pass’ as some thinks he gets. This kind of bit*hing will eventually trump any advantage he supposedly has because of his skin color. It’s really stupid considering the caliber of players he is playing with.

  • pposse

    hey seed your boy Zeke was speaking his mind too. Yup he was speaking his mind about MJ thruout the 1998 finals when he was the lead broadcaster with Bob Costas..slurpin on MJ..talkin about how he the greatest.

  • pposse

    did klove really say that he is one of the best players in the league? If you are one of the best players in the league, then how come you haven’t made the playoffs yet?

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Seed
    You suck at reading.
    I said Kobe gets a pass because he earned his stripes. More importantly, before Kobe got popped for ra(ping that white chick, he was the most white bread, image conscious media whore in the entire sporting world. He was doing EVERYTHING Jordan did, until he that faithful not in Eagle, Colorado. For you to pretend otherwise shows a serious lack of understanding about the world.
    And exactly what does Kobe stand up for? He’s still signed with Nike. He hasn’t every spoken out on a controversial public issue. Get real.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    is Kevin Love f*cking serious with this? Kevin Love mentioned himself 19 times. NINETEEN TIMES he said “I,” “I’m,” or “me” NINETEEN!!! You play for TEAM USA, not TEAM GET KEVIN LOVE ATTENTION – Every guy on the team feels they are the best player on earth, you aren’t f*cking special Kevin. Uhhh, i would rather here Dwight Howard deny the truth then listen to Kevin Love boast about how he is not getting the opportunity he deserves while playing on the best team on earth. First you talk about how the team you just signed a contract with, and have only been on for 4 whole years isn’t doing enough to win now, and now this? How many ridiculously self centered things do you think you can spew out of your asshole of a mouth in one summer Kevin Love? Not wonder you steal rebounds from your teammates.
    .
    BLAH

  • http://gmail.com z

    allenp’s got a point there, seed. while i do give kobe major props for coming out and saying something to the effect of “if everyone at staples center for our games gave a little bit of their money, we could seriously combat homelessness around LA,” (which is more than $ ever said/did for the poor–there’s really no excuse for how socially irresponsible mj has been throughout his career) kob does get carte blanch to say whatever he wants at this point (i will say that for a couple years after the rape accusation kobe got criticized for dam near EVERYTHING–kinda to be expected when you are accused of rape). and also prior to that rape charge, kobe WAS pretty much doing everything he could to reassure sternbot and the rest of the corporate world that he was the anti-iverson. BOOK IT!!

  • Sérgio

    Completely cosign JTaylor and Allenp. I like Kevin Love, but he’s acting like a freakin b!tch as of lately. 2 good seasons and he thinks he is the level of Kobe or Lebron.

  • http://www.reverbnation.com/tray24 T-Ray

    I’m not one to play the race card but it applies to how certain athletes are able to get a pass when they make certain comments. When you hear analyst or commentators speak about Love there is never a negative comment but rather praise of his skill set and intelligence. When speaking about the white athlete its normally about his whits and his off the court behavior. With the black athletes it’s his pure natural athletic ability. That’s just an example of how as JTaylor said pigmentation plays a role in sports.

  • http://Slamonline.com Jzakoni

    Don’t get me wrong, I love Kevin Loves game, but he talks big talk. When in reality Ricky Rubio had That team running smooth. With Rubio, twolves were a .500 team with an 8 seed in the entire west. When Ricky went out. Twolves went 5-21 shut up Kevin love. He talks a big game

  • pposse

    Heres the deal with white and black ball players. There are very few white american born nba basketball players in the league right now. This is because most white kids growing up in America would get constantly teased, laughed at, embarrassed…all of this just because they stepped on a basketball court with some black guys. In time, the white ball player will give up on his dream and realize that this is a black mans game (at the very top, nba talent wise). Sports writers are well aware of this. This is why Euro’s don’t do so bad in the NBA. The Euro ball player did not grow up getting teased by an athletically superior (black guy) ball player. Instead, they get coached properly and do not get exposed to such dramatic set backs that american white guys are exposed to growing up. Like i said, the sports writers are well aware of this, thats why they let these ‘heroes’ as some would call it keep talking and talking. They do not want to be responsible for in this case, KLove’s mental demise. Its really that simple.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Redd

    So the white man has been oppressed? Lmao get out of here with all that junk.

  • pposse

    on the basketball courts, but not in everyday life! Redd have some white kids from the suburbs go down to the south side of chicago to hoop..i guarantee you that half of those kids that are in the car driving there will NOT want to step out of the car let alone play ball when they see everyone on the courts. These are kids we are talking about, not some 20-25 year olds trying to hoop to get a sweat in. If your going to be in the NBA, most players have been taking basketball very seriously since they are like 12.

  • http://Roosterteeth.com Caboose

    The most overrated player in the NBA. His defense is on par with Steve Nash and his post up game on par with Rashard Lewis. He just happens to play on a team that lets him pad his stats like crazy. If the T’Wolves had….
    Chris Bosh: 27-12-3
    Lamarcus Aldridge: 28-10-2
    Pau Gasol: 25-13-4
    Josh Smith: 21-14-5
    Blake Griffin: 30-15-1
    I know nbk and I had a debate a while back about who was more important to the Wolves success, Adelman, Rubio, or Love. I said Rubio was the majority, with Love only a moderate amount. I stand by that, and this dude’s ARROGANT attitude seals the fact that his locker room presence isn’t good.

  • http://sfkjlf.com Jukai

    Complains about lack of size… benches two of the three tallest players for most of the game.
    Coach K everyone! Coach K!

  • http://sfkjlf.com Jukai

    Oh wow at this fake racial anger… now I remember why I don’t post much on SLAM anymore… carry on, guys!

  • http://www.nba.com VanCityBBall

    Well he better get some minutes when playing Spain… those guys can’t really guard the bigs of Spain (all due respect but still)

  • LA Huey

    Wow. He is right though, this isn’t 2010. This is Team USA’s Varsity squad. Fall in line.

  • http://Slamonline.com Jzakoni

    Ricky Rubio, Ricky Rubio, Ricky Rubio, Ricky helps that team more then Kevin love

  • http://nba.com GP23

    I agree with some of the above.
    Yes, Kevin Love was great last season, he put up good numbers…. but that’s it!
    Hasn’t played in a post-season yet, although to be fair, that isn’t entirely his fault, it’s the rest of the team as well as him.
    Ricky Rubio is more valuable to the T-Wolves than Love is in my opinion.
    Allenp, Kobe STILL is trying to be MJ’s equivalent.
    However, whenever Nash or Love is brought up in an article, race is always mentioned. Look back in the archives for proof. Bizarre.

  • http://www.slamonline.com The riddler

    He is a dump period good but not great like the others in front of him

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    @Z
    Your right alot in your comment, But I have read and seen things where Kobe has talked about other social issues that impact America and the homelessness is something he does nobody talks about trying to do things for people who have less. MJ never did anything but ball and chase women, so he played ball great, but as a person he sucked. MJ is considered by most to be the greatest athlete ever, but never did anything publicly to sway people’s view of him. The media today would kill MJ and this HALO everyone has of him, being great at everying thing from shooting percentage, big game play, defense, team play, ball hogging, teammates hated him, Bulls management despised him, his kids resented him, wife dealt with him for money and now he is running the Bobcats to the ground and him and Barkley messed of Tiger Woods life. LOL

  • http://slamonline.com Datkid

    cosign allenp. bosh’s defense+versatile game(back to the basket, jump shooting, decent at 3′s) and the fact that he put up similar #’s and has had more team success so far always made me think he was slightly better than love. plus Bosh is more athletic

  • JL

    Ricky Rubio with his 35.7% shooting? And that’s with his hot start included. He’s a great passer but he’s gotta find a way to be a threat on his own as well.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    White people don’t play ball because they get teased?
    LMAO
    Man, that’s crazy. Black folks don’t swim, golf or play tennis professionally, but nobody says it’s because we got teased by the dominant white people. It’s all our fault we don’t participate. But white people see their numbers drop in the NBA and it’s because the blackies are being mean.
    That’s asinine.

  • http://www.stillonthebench.blogspot.com TR

    How would Rubio do without Love? 2 way street

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    If black people stopped doing things simply because white people were mean to them, black people would have never accomplished anything as a race in this country. NOTHING. Ponder that for a second.

  • LA Huey

    Arthur Ashe is rolling in his grave…

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    The racial angst isn’t fake.
    Dude has some shifty ways. And he gets a pass. Now what you attribute that pass to is all about how you see the world.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    LA Huey
    Ashe, Williams sisters, Althea. That pretty much covers the entire history of black tennis according to most Americans and the sports media.
    Black folks do not participate in golf, tennis and swimming in large numbers. Hell, after a certain point there are very few of us playing baseball.
    Nobody says “Oh, the white kids tease the black kids and make it difficult for them to participate.” Sure that happens, but who points to that as the reason why black numbers are low? That is crazy to me.

  • LA Huey

    I know, homie. I just couldn’t pass up the chance to mention Ashe and appropriately use the phrase. I’m with you on this one.

  • pposse

    i did think over what you are saying. But we are talking about basketball right? Not scientific discoveries, politics, social leadership etc. BASKETBALL! Part of the game of basketball is trash talking. I know it sounds ridiculous, but how else can you explain the lack of American born (white/caucasion) basketball players in the NBA. My theory (this is only a theory) is that its cause they get ridiculed from playing seriously at a very young age. I am not white, so im not speaking for anyone, its just my opinion. However, why are there so many europeans in the league? I mean this is America right, we are the dominant basketball country (black white yellow brown red included). Quick examples…in the eighth grade i was on my schools bball team and some chicago school from the inner city came to play us. Everyone on that team were black, and they literally went into the layup line without basketballs and each and every last one of them grabbed the rim. I think one person touched the rim on our team back then lol. What do u think our whole team was thinking? We got waxed that game lost by like 50. We was good tho as a team, we won our conference. That day tho, personally i knew that i should give up on any real NBA hoop dreams.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Redd

    That works both ways. A black person wouldn’t go to the upper-super rich neighborhoods to play ball or tennis or baseball. I’m not saying all white folks or even rich white folks don’t like black people just that the notion you posed is unreal. What my example says is that the rich are franchised, especially the white rich-middle class folks. Don’t ever get it twisted, racism won’t die & racial divides will always exist.

  • http://sfkjlf.com Jukai

    No, it’s absolutely fake.
    1- He isn’t getting a pass. What’s hysterical is that everyone is bashing him and butchering him while yelling “and what’s worse, everyone is giving him a pass”
    2- If James Harden or Anthony Davis said “yeah, it’s tough not getting playing time, but I’ll just have to power through and find my spots in limited minutes” then no one would bat an eyebrow because it’s a truthful statement! It’s tough not playing and it’s toughing proving you deserve to play when you are used to get 40 minutes a game and now you’re getting five. But Kevin Love says that? Oh my god, how awful!!!! We can’t let that white little shmuck get away with that!
    This should have been a non-issue SLAM post. He was asked a question, he vented a bit, then got an article written negatively about him for answering that question. Seems like NBA journalism 101 to me. Yet, someone, despite responding to an article attacking Love, people are suddenly going after him ravenously yelling about race in the media.
    Seems like its less about race and more about Kevin Love.
    See it how you see it, but it’s getting kind of ridiculous from my end.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    I explain it simply.
    White people concentrate on different sports because they are told by their family, friends, coaches and society that they should do that.
    Why fight millions of black kids for a college scholarship in basketball when you can slide over to lacrosse, soccer, golf and swimming and go to school for free much easier?
    Take baseball. White kids love that sport. They play it all the time. And consequently, white people dominate baseball. Or what about football? White people still love that sport, and while their numbers are lower than black folks they are still incredibly strong because millions of white kids believe every year they have a future in football.
    The racial makeup of a sport is determined by whether young children believe they can play that sport and whether they get started early playing it. Basketball is that sport of basketball and that’s why you see more black athletes. It’s not because we scare off all the white people with our trash talking.

  • pposse

    Another example: I am at the playground, and some european guy is there and we are playing ball. This guy you can tell just came to America within the year. He wasn’t good or anything, but he still had the audacity to try these crazy behind the back layups in traffic; it never worked, but he kept on doing it and doing it until one time it worked on some young lame. I am contending that most people the age of 21 (which was the age i was when this happened) would have been stopped trying to do that sorry move; but he (not knowing any better) kept on at it. I am sure that by now if he still lives in America has given up on that move. Confidence does a lot of things for the haves as well as the have nots. I know this ish sounds crazy but someone else explain to me why there are so many foreign players in the league then.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    You read this excerpt and took away the gist as :
    “Yeah it’s tough not getting time but I just have to power through”?
    That’s what you really and truly got from his comments? That is hard to believe. See, if he said that, there would be no problem. That’s honest and understandable. But that’s not what I took from his comments.
    What I took was a cat complaining that he’s better than he was in 2010 and he should be getting more minutes. Clearly were saw the situation completely differently.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Who else is venting on TEAM USA about playing time?
    Name another person who has vented? Not complained about the difficulty of getting a rhythm with fewer minutes, but actually vented that they should be getting more time?
    I can think of no one.

  • pposse

    so you are contending that white people are being told by their “family, friends, coaches” to not concentrate in ball because millions of black kids are already concentrating on that same scholarship. I believe that; but what makes you think that the kid (these are kids we are talking about, they don’t use their full brain potential) is even intelligent enough to understand this concept. Or what makes you think that this is the only motivating reason why a coach or family member would tell their kid to concentrate their efforts somewhere else. All of these athletes whether they are lying or not claim that they have been dreaming of their sport they are professionals in since age 6. A coach or family member won’t take your dream from you; the people you play against on the courts do. And i mean its simple psychology at that point. If i see a bunch of white guys playing lacrosse as a 13 yr old ill probably be thinking that white guys are only good at this sport/play this sport. The same goes for basketball. But in Europe, these guys grow up playing bball with confidence; and i do not mean to take away from the individual talents and hard work they put in. But lets be real..if Andres Nocioni grew up in America would he be in the NBA??

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    for the record, baseball is dominated by latinos. check the numbers.

  • LA Huey

    I’m pretty sure Jews make up a great portion of writing in Hollywood because they trash-talked all the blacks, hispanics, and Asians away from it.

  • http://sfkjlf.com Jukai

    Allen- Has anyone asked James Harden? Aren’t you usually the guy defending players for answering honest questions? I did read “I played in 2010 and I’m better” and if that’s overbearing then you got soft overtime. I did not read “Coach K better give me minutes or there is going to be problems.” Lebron, Wade, Amare, Bosh, and Melo constantly remind everyone that they were angry they didn’t get any playing time in 2004 and that every Olympic game after that is simply to prove their coach and doubters wrong. Whiners?
    Also, still doesn’t justify any racial angle, but maybe that’s been dropped. The idiotic “white people aren’t good at basketball because black kids scare them” crowd has kind of shifted the stupidity far into the other spectrum.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    They remind everyone NOW that they were mad they didn’t get time. They didn’t say anything in 2004.
    You think the comments weren’t complaining? I can’t believe that.
    Like I said, name another player who complained that they deserved more time on Team USA while playing on Team USA. I’ve never seen it before.
    Like T_Money said, the reporter asked questions to give Love a chance to explain why he wasn’t dominating like the reporter predicted. Instead of keeping things along the safe “It’s tough to produce in limited minutes” Love then openly advocated for more minutes and implied that he deserved more minutes because he was better than he was in 2010.
    If you honestly and truly think this is normal and acceptable behavior for athletes on Team USA, then that’s what you believe. No reason to argue or debate it.

  • pposse

    LA – LOL ..jewish people run the media and they like to keep the money within their community a la bhamitva’s and the such, i heard those kids have an obligation to pay back whomever contributes to their funds when they get older and more successful

  • http://sfkjlf.com Jukai

    I just named five other guys who complained. There were rumblings in 2004, but no one asked Lebron “why aren’t you producing!!!!!”
    Whatever, that wasn’t even my major complaint. If the conversation shifts to that, I wont care and I’ll disappear back into the shadows.

  • http://slamonline.com Chubachuchi

    ^ I’m sorry sir but you’re pathetic. Doesn’t mean that because you and you’re friends were scared to play ball with black dudes meaning this is a societal problem now. Not all white people are like you meaning they don’t let the fear or the sh*t talk get to them if it ever was there. Intimidation should never hinder you from doing what you want especially in something that’s supposed to be fun like basketball. I know a few white kids that did get sh*t at first when they started playing but after they sucked it up the black dudes and every other minority meanie respected them. The main reason Black people dominate basketball is because it’s the #1 sport they like to play day in and out, and quite frankly, their naturally athletic ability helps.

    Just curious man you’re from Chicago? I know we live in probably the most segregated city but we always have a diverse group of people to hang with, at east where I’m from. And where in the South are you talking about playing lol if people don’t want to come down it’s mainly because they’re afraid for their lives not because they’re intimidated.

  • http://slamonline.com Chubachuchi

    @ pposse

  • http://slamonline.com Chubachuchi

    @ ppose

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    NBK, in 2009, MLB baseball was 60 percent white, 28 percent Latino, 9 percent black 2.5 percent asian according to figures I just found with a Google search.
    More telling, NCAA baseball is 85 percent white!
    That is domination.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Jukai
    You clearly think there is no racial angle to the way Kevin Love has been handled by the media. YOu felt the same way at different times about Nash and Dirk. At this point, nothing is changing your mind.
    So, what’s your point? That because you feel this way we should all agree that our feelings on the topic are invalid and lack proof.
    Um, ok.
    You see what you see, I see what I see. At this point, we don’t agree on reality. Therefore we can’t discuss nuances.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    ahh good work detective.
    .
    I knew college was basically all white players, for some reason i thought i saw a statistic that showed about 35% of major league baseball was of latin descent. My bad man.

  • pposse

    chubachuchi, im from chicago and im not speaking for myself. All i did was pose an extended reason as to why Kevin Love is not getting sht on by the media for sounding like a white version of T.O. There aren’t enough white people in ball, the media won’t bash that guy until he cheats on his wife or something. When i was talkin about going to the south side of chicago, i was exaggerating. But you tell me then why there are more europeans in the NBA than there are white americans. Thats the only logical reason i can think of (cause many got teased at a young age haha that still sounds funny tho). AllenP did say cause their coaches and such tell them to concentrate on other things, but if you want something bad enough dont you go for it? I say its cause they getting teased but it all comes down to the mentality getting attacked at an early age; and that can get crushed at an early age a la teasing or losing or parents telling you to do something else.

  • pposse

    jukai they all complained cause they lost, when you lose and you have the superior talent what are you going to expect? Plus Larry did do a horrendous job coaching that team. AI and Duncan shouldn’t have been starting that year. Kevin Love didnt lose anything, but his damn mind so far this summer.

  • http://sfkjlf.com Jukai

    Allen: You’re projecting on me. I never said there wasn’t a racial bias with Nash, I said it was overblown. And I never mentioned anything about Dirk, maybe to defend Nash but never directly, so not sure where the hell you got that. BUT, if we’re going to go tit for tat here, how many posters here have accused you of seeing racial angles when none existed? “At this point, nothing is changing your mind” right?
    What I see RIGHT NOW is an article (on NBA dot com) bashing Kevin Love, and everyone responding bashing Kevin Love. I also see a lot of blogs jumping on the subject and doing the same thing. And yet, somehow, Kevin Love is getting away squeaky clean by being white. Wha?
    Could it be, people liked him in the past because he was an underdog story and they ignored some of his self entitlement, and now that he has been accepted as an all-star, people are tired of it?
    Or could it be similar to what happened to Lebron, Kobe, and Wade, how people loved them so much because they were new and awesome, that people ignored their self entitled attitude until they no longer were new and people got tired of it?
    Nah, forgettaboutit. White. I gotcha.
    If you don’t want to discuss this, don’t respond. You’re pulling the “I’m going to discuss this then end my post about not wanting to discuss this because we’re too far apart, then the next time you respond, I’m going to discuss this then end my post about not wanting to discuss this because we’re too far apart” loop. It’s boring.

  • http://sfkjlf.com Jukai

    pposse: I get that point, but let’s not pretend the group is storming through the competition. 11 point win on Brazil, 7 points on Argentina… not good looking. And they still complain about size.

  • http://slamonline.com StuBaby

    It’s funny because all I’m getting from these posts is racial hatred. Where are the “supporters” for this guy? The reporter did his job and reported the story. Where is the media bias?

  • bike

    Physiological and socioeconomic reasons factor in the participation and performance of blacks in the nba. Blacks (Jamaicans and West Africans) have always excelled in certain sports such as the sprinting events – check Olympic records if in doubt. East Africans excel in the distance events.
    Nothing wrong with honest discussions about race and proficiency in sports as long as we refrain from the negative stereotypes i.e. ‘All athletes are dumb, all blacks are great athletes, therefore all black are…’.

  • http://kingakai.com Alpha-bet

    Wow..Kevin Love really does talk alot…Nevet really notice that till this summer.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    East Africans have not always dominated distance events. In fact, white people dominated ALL events at first. Of course, just like in most sports, that’s because they wouldn’t let other people participate.
    Most discussions on race in sports performance are not based on science. They are based on overblown anecdotes.

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    Did you guys hear the rumor that Nick Young, Randy Foye, and Jtaylor21 had a three way on Udonis Haslem’s couch. Crazy ass $hit from TMZ

  • IMAPALA T

    man I’m watchin Kevin Love now and he is not making a good case for himself,

  • LA Huey

    I heard that rumor too but Snopes confirmed it to be only that.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    Co-sign Allenp on everything.

  • LA Huey

    bike forgot to mention Jamaicans and bobsledding.

  • http://slamonline.com StuBaby

    Here’s some science!

    -Hypothesis Testing on the Proportion of Black Athletes in the NBA-
    Null Hypothesis: p = 0.131 (proportion of blacks in the US)
    Alternative Hypothesis: p =/= 0.131
    Our p is the proportion we would expect to see if race was not a factor in being an athlete (in this case an NBA athlete).
    Test Level of Significance: 0.001
    Comparative z-value for Test Level of Significance: 3.3
    z-value = (0.78 – 0.131)/(sqrt((0.131 * (1 – 0.131)) / 450)) = 40.82
    0.78 is the proportion of the NBA that is black.
    450 is the maximum number of players in the NBA at any one time.
    40.82 > 3.3 and so we reject our null hypothesis and say with 99% confidence that race is a factor on becoming an NBA player. In fact, because our z-value is so astronomically high, there is less than a 0.00000000000000001 chance that this is possible without race being a factor. You can do this same test for NFL and US Olympic Sprinters and get similar values.

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    What about the rumor that Allenp and Lakeshow did it in the back of jukai’s truck? Anybody else hear that?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgvwfvTcNl0 danpowers

    @Stubay: Do the same amount of white and black people attempt to become nba players? and is this really because of skin color genetically or because of social class? like a spoiled / petted kid that grows up having everything wont work, hustle and fight as hard as a kid that doesnt really has an option besides making it on the court besides ending up in underpaid unqualified labour or prison/cemetary etc… that situation wont fit every single case but maybe a very big sample. so we would have to estimate the same amount of whites (or just non blacks?) and blacks of the same socio-economical background and… f***k it that racism is just too much for me lol

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgvwfvTcNl0 danpowers

    @topic: dont understand why he demands anything publicly. so far he didnt do more than putting up big numbers on a losing team. ha can talk as soon as the t-wolves finish their season with a positive record.

  • Valkyrie

    Jukai’s narrative on all things race is very simple: “All of you people of color complain too much, and without merit”. That’s pretty much all you need to know about his views, which are shared by more than one person on this site. It’s pretty much why I skip over his comments.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgvwfvTcNl0 danpowers

    i want an edit function when i look at all my typos, sorry guys

  • http://asdfjklf.com Jukai

    Valkyrie, I like it. When you can’t actually debate on the subject, speak in generalities and shy away from the argument completely. It’s a good strategy and makes you look smarter than you actually are. Keep up the good work.

  • Dingo Rob

    The White Dwight

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