Kobe Bryant Plans to Remind LeBron James That He Has More NBA Championships

If there was one thing to take away from the fantastic Dream Team documentary that recently aired, is just how much trash talk takes place when the world’s greatest basketball players join forces. It’s no different this time around, as Kobe Bryant and LeBron James headline Team USA’s for Olympic Gold in London. But before they head across the pond, Bryant will remind James that he has a long way to go before he catches up in the race for NBA titles. From SI: “He’s going to be a different player,’ said [Tyson] Chandler of the impact the championship will have on [LeBron] James. Chandler should know because he became a champion with Dallas in 2011 at the expense of James and Miami. ‘LeBron was already an incredible player, and if not the best, top two — there’s only one other guy that can challenge that, and he’s on this team.’ Chandler was referring to [Kobe] Bryant, of course. ‘So his whole mentality is going to be different, because the confidence of winning an NBA championship changes a player,’ said Chandler. ‘Confidence — knowing you’re a champion, you’re the best. You walk around with that swagger, and he deserves it. He worked very hard and now he can call himself a champ.’ […] Above all else, he is not going to relax. The breakthrough doesn’t change everything, as warned by Bryant. ‘One championship doesn’t get it, you know what I’m saying?’ Bryant said. ‘So for me, when we won one, it was a little different because it was, like you know, Michael (Jordan) had six, Magic (Johnson) had five. So me and Shaq (O’Neal) both were like, man, we got to get some more. One ain’t going to cut it.’ Surely James has been thinking the same way. ‘Yeah, I mean, since the last time we were here I got two,’ said Bryant, extending the vowel the way Jordan extended his fingertips after making his last championship shot in Utah. He let the ‘two’ hang out there without rushing onto the next sentence. ‘Dirk got one. He (James) got one.’ Has Bryant reminded James of the championship score? ‘Not yet,’ he said. ‘I will. I will.’”

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T-Money

kobe’s rings are all valid but let’s not pretend that who the alpha dog is on a championship team doesn’t matter – it has always mattered. and it’s not necessarily about finals mvp because kg was the most important player for boston, and tf was for san an when they gave the finals mvp to parker. shaq was the most important laker during the 3peat and lebron was the most important player for miami this year. those are facts.
haslem

I was there. The Laker’s were Shaq’s team those first three championships. Kobe was incredible, but anyone who watched those playoff games know Shaq was playing on a different level than anyone else at the time. No shame in being Robin to 99-02 Shaq get over it Kobe fans.
pposse

if u replace Lebron with Kobe right now..the Lakers r the favorites to win the championship no doubt in my mind..Kobe on the Heat right now are not the favorites…Kenny smith was saying back in 2010 that if Lebron was on the Lakers instead of Kobe they would be in contention to win 70 games. Kobe is the inferior ball player, with the way the game is played a superior athlete (which Lebron is) will always have the advantage
J. Lee

All of this talk about who has rings, how many rings you have etc is getting out of hand. We seem to forget this is still a team sport. If you dont have a good team around you, it will be hard to win that championship. In reality, a ring should not validate your career.
http://slamonline.com JTaylor21

Fake nbk at 4:13 is so painfully fake…Co-sign T-Money.
http://Slamonline.com nbk

#trollbetter
Sérgio

For you all sayin that KB was playin with a Top 5 center in his last 2 championships, I’d like you to remeber thar, in both 09 and 10, Bynum was coming back from injury, and was wll below his normal production. Check his stats:
09 Playoffs: 6.3 Pts per game, 3.7 rebounds per game, 0.4 assists per game, 1 block per game.
10 Playoffs: 8.6 Pts per game, 6.9 rebounds per game, 0.5 assists per game, 1.6 block per game.
Well, this is production far away from what is expected from a top 5 center.
Also, ok, in 2000, Shaq was clearly LA’s best players. But He wasn’t better than KB in 01 and 02. Check their numbers:

01 regular season:
Kobe: 28.5 pts, 5.9 rebounds, 5.0 assists, 1.7 steals.
Shaq: 28.7 pts, 12.7 rebounds, 3.7 assists, 2.8 blks.

01 Playoffs:
Kobe: 29.4 pts, 7.3 rbs, 6.1 assists, 1.6 steals
Shaq: 30.4 pts, 15.4 rbs, 3.2 assists, 2.3 blks.

02 regular season:
Kobe: 25.2 pts, 5.5 rbs, 5.5 assists, 1.5 steals
Shaq: 27.2 pts, 10.7 rbs, 3.0 assists, 2.0 blks.

02 Playoffs:
Kobe: 26.6 pts, 5.8 rbs, 4.6 assists, 1.4 steals
Shaq: 28.5 pts, 12.6 rbs, 2.8 assists, 2.5 blks.

You can see that Shaq’s numbers were slightly better in the Playoffs. But remember: all 3 Lakers opponents in the Finals (IND, PHI, NJ) did not have great post defenders to contain Shaq. Also, the Eastern Conference was way worse at the time. The best teams in the league were all out west: Sacremento, San Antonio, Portland, Dallas. And Kobve carried LA thorugh the West. Actually, except for the Finals, KB had better averages than Shaq in the Playoffs. So stop with this bullsh@t talk that KB rode Shaq’s cottails.
http://www.nba.com/2012/news/features/david_aldridge/07/09/morning-tip-free-agency/index.html Allenp

When David Aldridge says it, no one thinks he’s a hater. But when I say it…
O’Neal was still good many nights, and occasionally great. Teams still had to game plan for him. But the Suns’ personnel was a mishmash of fast and slow. Nash was not a spot-up guy like a Derek Fisher, who would float to open spots on the court when Shaq or Kobe Bryant drew double-teams in L.A. and drain open threes. Nash and other holdovers from the D’Antoni days chafed at the slowdown pace Porter insisted on. If he couldn’t play at a fast pace, Nash knew, he was no better than any other heady but physically limited point guard.
http://slamonline.com JTaylor21

SI.com had an ok article on Kobe this morning. In it he says he is the best post player on Team USA. He said he’s even better than Tyson Chandler, and that Tyson isn’t even in the conversation. Thoughts?
http://Slamonline.com nbk

Well Tyson might be the worst post player on the roster. Its probably between Kobe and Carmelo, That’s how I feel.
http://Slamonline.com nbk

Sergio, why don’t you include shooting %? You know, the most important difference between Kobe and Shaq’s numbers…
http://www.offthebackboard.wordpress.com Off The Backboard

@Nbk – Yes, because comparing a center’s shooting percentages to a SG really makes sense. Thank you Sergio for posting that. I’m not sure who insinuated the thought on here earlier, but Bynum was nothing close to a Top 5 center in the league in 2009 and 2010. He was barely playing in the playoffs. That tells me that a) you didn’t watch the Laker runs properly or b) you choose to spew generalities and hope it sticks to the wall. Kobe had less help on his two championships (Gasol was his main help, and he’s not even a lock to make the HOF) than Lebron did in the one he just won. As for not winning without an elite PF/C….the man took a roster that prominently featured Luke Walton to a 47-35 record in the Western Conference. I think that’s quite a feat in itself. Its amazing how much people go out of their way to slight every thing he has accomplished.
http://www.offthebackboard.wordpress.com Off The Backboard

@pposse – Of course the Lakers would be better with Lebron on the team. God damn. He’s in his prime, and was closer to his prime in 2010 than Kobe was to his. If you put 2005-2006 Kobe on the current Lakers team or even on the 2010 team, they would be a lock to make the Finals. Hell, Kobe on the outskirts of his prime 2008-2010 helped lead a team with the second best player as Pau (and a huge drop off after that since Bynum didn’t play in the playoffs often) to 3 straight Finals trips and 2 rings. I feel like people fault Kobe for having Shaq, despite the fact that he put elite numbers with Shaq by his side THAT HE KEPT UP post Shaq. Its one thing to say “oh he had Shaq” if his numbers drastically dropped post-Shaq, but they haven’t. He’s had similar numbers year in and year out since 2001.
http://Slamonline.com nbk

OTB – it makes no sense to include rebounds and assists either. Or PPG if you are going to ignore shot attempts and %. You can’t be ok with some of the stats and not others. Either all relevant data or none. Shaq was by far the better player. It wasn’t even relatively close. But he also would not have won without Kobe.
thenatural

gasol is no better than chris bosh. if lebron had won it solely with bosh i would compare his championship to the one kobe won with gasol.

point being, shaq was a superstar and kobe kept up – then shaq left and kobe won it with a heavily downgraded big man.

lebron is playing with one gasol-calibar player and a superstar in dwade.

kobe’s title = more impressive than lebron’s title.

enough said.
http://Slamonline.com nbk

No, Shaq left and Kobe didn’t make the playoffs. Revisionist history is fun and all, but it took A premiere big man (Gasol) to get Kobe over the hump. Every player needs other great players to win. Those Lakers teams 08/09-09/10 were the biggest most talented two way team in both their title season. This years Heat was the most talented two way team this season. Which squads of those are better is just opinion.
http://www.kb24.com The Seed

COSIGN
Sérgio Posted: Jul.10 at 10:51 am
For you all sayin that KB was playin with a Top 5 center in his last 2 championships, I’d like you to remeber thar, in both 09 and 10, Bynum was coming back from injury, and was wll below his normal production. Check his stats:
09 Playoffs: 6.3 Pts per game, 3.7 rebounds per game, 0.4 assists per game, 1 block per game.
10 Playoffs: 8.6 Pts per game, 6.9 rebounds per game, 0.5 assists per game, 1.6 block per game.
Well, this is production far away from what is expected from a top 5 center.
Also, ok, in 2000, Shaq was clearly LA’s best players. But He wasn’t better than KB in 01 and 02. Check their numbers: 01 regular season:
Kobe: 28.5 pts, 5.9 rebounds, 5.0 assists, 1.7 steals.
Shaq: 28.7 pts, 12.7 rebounds, 3.7 assists, 2.8 blks. 01 Playoffs:
Kobe: 29.4 pts, 7.3 rbs, 6.1 assists, 1.6 steals
Shaq: 30.4 pts, 15.4 rbs, 3.2 assists, 2.3 blks. 02 regular season:
Kobe: 25.2 pts, 5.5 rbs, 5.5 assists, 1.5 steals
Shaq: 27.2 pts, 10.7 rbs, 3.0 assists, 2.0 blks. 02 Playoffs:
Kobe: 26.6 pts, 5.8 rbs, 4.6 assists, 1.4 steals
Shaq: 28.5 pts, 12.6 rbs, 2.8 assists, 2.5 blks. You can see that Shaq’s numbers were slightly better in the Playoffs. But remember: all 3 Lakers opponents in the Finals (IND, PHI, NJ) did not have great post defenders to contain Shaq. Also, the Eastern Conference was way worse at the time. The best teams in the league were all out west: Sacremento, San Antonio, Portland, Dallas. And Kobve carried LA thorugh the West. Actually, except for the Finals, KB had better averages than Shaq in the Playoffs. So stop with this bullsh@t talk that KB rode Shaq’s coattails.
http://www.nba.com/2012/news/features/david_aldridge/07/09/morning-tip-free-agency/index.html Allenp

Like I said, Kobe fans are the most rabid defenders of his legacy. I have never seen fans as intent on proving the greatness of a player they support. It’s amazing.
http://www.offthebackboard.wordpress.com Off The Backboard

@AllenP – When casual fans (and otherwise, as this site shows) continually keep saying things generally (i.e, Kobe was a role player during the 2000-2002 run, etc) for years and years, it gets grating. No, Kobe was not the best player during those title runs, but its just annoying how if fans of Bean try to defend him, we’re labeled as being over-the-top, yet people do the same thing on here for Lebron, Iverson, etc, they’re perfectly rational. And yes, some Laker fans are dumb, but that’s likely because they were probably born in the late 90s or early 2000s.
http://slamonline.com JTaylor21

Name 5 centers that were better than Bynum in the Lakers’ second post Shaq championship. Lebron dominated his championship series on both ends of the floor. He also did it more efficiently. No one is taking anything away from Kobe, but let’s not make it seem like Kobe carried a bunch of bums on his back. He didn’t.
http://www.offthebackboard.wordpress.com Off The Backboard

JTaylor – Bynum barely contributed during those playoff runs. He had some good games here and there, but he wasn’t a consistent factor (moreso because he was constantly tweaking or injuring something), and he definitely wasn’t as polished as he was last year. In 2010, Bynum only played 65 games and wasn’t considered a viable option due to his inconsistency and because of his injury history. In 2010, these centers were better: Bogut (15/10 average), Kaman (18/9), Nene (about the same types of numbers, but played all 82 games), Al Horford, Brook Lopez (18/9), Noah (10/11).
http://www.offthebackboard.wordpress.com Off The Backboard

Bynum, up until last year’s performance, was purely potential based. Nobody knew what to expect from him aside from a yearly injury.
http://slamonline.com LakeShow

OTB ruling the thread.
Seed, you just copied and pasted a comment that was like 10 above yours. You crack me up dude.
http://slamonline.com JTaylor21

Injuries aside you can’t minimize his importance in 2010′s run. 1st off, only Kaman and Lopez had dramatically better ppg on a teams without a scorer of Kobe’s caliber and a second option like Gasol. Bynum averaged similar rebounding stats that whole year and into the playoffs. Their blocks were pretty much around the same. His postseason play suddenly doesn’t count? Are you kidding? Let’s not act like his play wasn’t why everyone was so high on him. Defensively he was of huge importance. Downplaying Kobe’s team to big him up is just stupid. Objective observers are the only people who seem to realize this. Hero ball didn’t win Kobe a single ring. Talented teams did.
http://slamonline.com JTaylor21

I will re-state the fact that Kobe never won a single round without and elite big.
http://slamonline.com LakeShow

I will state this fact, Magic Johnson never won with out All-Start and Super-Star and HOF talent.
I will state this fact, Larry Bird never won with out ‘see above’…
I will state this fact ‘see above for the following’
LeBron James
Dwayne Wade
Michael Jordan
Wilt
Russell
Shaq
KAJ
Dirk
Jason Kidd
Payton
Malone
Barkley
List goes on and on and on…
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Taylor, stop embarrassing yourself by hating on Bean so much. Bynum was a lousy center in the playoffs those years. Period.
Pau was real good, but not great consistently. Odom had his moments. Kobe was the solid steady rock through out those finals runs and was player option 1b for the teams with Shaq. Those are the FACTS.
Shall we start discounting others legacies now too? I’m down. As long as were consistent.
Sérgio

Cosign Lakeshow and OTB.
http://Slamonline.com nbk

He wasn’t 1B with Shaq. He was number 2. As much as y’all want Taylor to give respect to Kobe’s latter titles, y’all need to give Shaq his respect. Kobe was just as inconsistent as Pau.
http://slamonline.com JTaylor21

Hating? Since when is not having a Kobe fanboy view hating? I never said no one else won without help. In fact, that was my whole point. I’m not going to sit here and follow the Kobe hero ball myth. Kobe had lots of help. Other individual players have dominated their championship runs more than he has. Not saying his rings are less valid than anyone else’s, but to act like he carried bums to championship rings is straight up revisionist nonsense. Y’all can downplay his teammates all you want. It won’t change reality.
http://Slamonline.com nbk

Sh*t Lakeshow you were calling Pau the best 4 in the league when they were winning those titles. You forget that?
http://slamonline.com LakeShow

No one has ever carried bums to championships.
You two have it twisted.
Shaq was more dominant than Kobe, but being dominant does not make one better or more important to the team. Although Shaq was more important than Kobe overall. Hence 1b. Reason why he is 1 b and not 2 is because he was by far the 2nd most important player on the team (BY FAR) and was the most important player when it came to getting an individual basket down the stretch. He also made his FT’s at a 80% clip which is huge compared to Shaq’s 55%. Shaq shot 300 FT’s in one of the playoff runs and made only 140 of them. Shaq was a widely flawed player per his dominance.
Shaq did the things Kobe could not.
Kobe did the things Shaq could not.
HimKing

blitzsportsnetwork.com
/2012/06/kobe-bryant-vs-lebron-james-comparison-updated-in-2012/
Article points out in a clear and impartial fashion why lebron james with 1 ring has a better overall career than kobe with 5.
http://slamonline.com LakeShow

nbk, He was (or Dirk)… Doesn’t mean he wasn’t streaky and inconsistent (remember the Charmin?).
Taylor, your just plain dumb (your not so just admit Bynum was nothing then) if you think Bynum was anything more than 4th or 5th most important player to the team during those three finals runs.
http://Slamonline.com nbk

Shaq was still far and away a better basketball player. Arguing that point does nothing but render your opinion irrelevant. Kobe could make free throws!!! Shaq could guard the f*cking basket. What seems more important? K bye.
http://slamonline.com LakeShow

lol. later girlio.
http://www.nba.com/2012/news/features/david_aldridge/07/09/morning-tip-free-agency/index.html Allenp

I’m not sure why Kobe fans find it so hard to admit that he won five rings with stellar talent compared to the rest of the League. Now compared to other HOFs, he’s right on target outside of say Isiah Thomas.
Kobe has had great talent, and he’s been a great talent. He’s top 15 all-time. But, he has obvious flaws like every player. No matter how many rings he wins, that’s not going to change. Everyone who watched basketball during the Lakers run recognizes what Kobe’s role was, what his strengths were, and what his failings were too.
It is a shame we have to get into these pointless arguments about dude still.
http://slamonline.com LakeShow

I’m not sure why people who hate fans of Kobe, find it hard to admit that we don’t think he won without stellar talent lol…
LeBron is one of the greatest at winning without massive talent and he needed D-Wade and Bosh to get a ring.
I don’t know why you bring up Thomas. Isiah’s teams were straight up STACKED. 20+ PPG scorer Mark Aguirre. HOF’er Adrian Dantley. Joe Dumars… The Microwave… Bill Lambeer, Rick Mahorn, Dennis Rodman, and John Salley… lol. Yeah no talent there.
Kobe is like every other top 10-15′er, your right…
Flawed, and still one of the greatest of all time.
http://slamonline.com JTaylor21

“gasol is no better than chris bosh. if lebron had won it solely with bosh i would compare his championship to the one kobe won with gasol. point being, shaq was a superstar and kobe kept up – then shaq left and kobe won it with a heavily downgraded big man. lebron is playing with one gasol-calibar player and a superstar in dwade. kobe’s title = more impressive than lebron’s title. enough said.”…..”at the end of the day, kobe , with his last 2 chips, did it without having another superstar with him…pau is an occasional all star, not a superstar…kobe avg’d 28 & pau avg’d 17..& now in the playoffs pau avg like 14…even shaq or lebron cant say that…nash will change all that…u dont wanna ever doubt kobe u should kno that by now…he is motivated on his goku now he will come back super seyan he is just in the hyperbolic time chamber rite now u dig me”…This are the types of comments that give Kobe fans a bad name.
http://slamonline.com LakeShow

Why would we give that comment the time of day though?
It’s obviously a child.
I don’t argue with non-regulars.
Do your thing though. Go after those “Kobe fans.”
http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

Pau Gasol — 2009-10 Playoffs — 19.6PPG – 11.1RPG – 3.5APG – 2.1BPG – .538FG%
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Pau Gasol — 2008-09 Playoffs — 18.3PPG – 10.8RPG – 2.5APG – 1.95BPG – .580FG%
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lol
http://slamonline.com LakeShow

Your back girl scout.
Gasol was awesome. I probably made it sound like he wasn’t. He was. But he was inconsistent. He had plenty of 10 point games on 35% shooting during both those runs. He also had plenty of games where he didn’t seem as if he was “leaving it all on the table.” Hence why he earned his Soft label. Kobe had bad games also. So i’m being to hard on Gasol. My bad for that. Point being, that yes, Gasol is a very good player, but he is no where close to what Shaq was. Him and Bynum together don’t equal Shaq. Bynum was lousy during those two chips and Kobe had to be the unquestioned man of the team and proved that he was and that they could win with him being that guy. Which many people (allot of folks on here) said he couldn’t do, without Shaq.
http://www.nba.com/2012/news/features/david_aldridge/07/09/morning-tip-free-agency/index.html Allenp

Lakeshow
I really find it hard to take your seriously in a discussion when you create strawman arguments.
Isiah Thomas’s talent was less than many of the all-time greats. That was my point. If you disagree, fine, but at least clearly state my point, don’t assign me an asinine argument so you can feel better about what you’re saying.
Kobe was the second best player on those Lakers team with Shaq. He’s the second best two guard of all-time. Unless Wade and Bron go crazy in the next few years, both of those things will not change.
He shot a lot, he missed a lot. He made a lot. He played good defense, he played horrible defense. He won with talent, he won a lot less without talent.
What is so hard to grasp? Dude’s place in history is pretty much set. He’s not passing Jordan, ever. And it’s unlikely that any other two guard is leapfrogging him. Now, his rank among all of the greatest players of all time is still in flux, but he’ll probably end up around 10-13 depending on how you feel about Hakeem, Duncan and Isiah Thomas.
http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

(my comment about Pau was not directed at you, for the record. I know you know how good he was, I was just posting it for those that think he became a lesser player during the playoffs)
.I never said Gasol and Bynum equaled Shaq. Kobe was far and away the best player on those 2 titles team.. Just like Shaq was on their 3 title teams. Not even remotely close for either of them. And that little 3 year run from Kobe was about as good (statistically) as Jordan’s second 3pt was. I’ll even post the stats.
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.Here are Jordan’s playoff averages from 1996-98 when the Bulls won three championships:

- 1996: 30.7 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 4.1 apg, .459 FG%, .403 3FG%, .818 FT%
- 1997: 31.1 ppg, 7.9 rpg, 4.8 apg, .456 FG%, .194 3FG%, .831 FT%
- 1998: 32.4 ppg, 5.1 rpg, 3.5 apg, .462 FG%, .302 3FG%, .812 FT%
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.Here are Bryant’s playoff averages from 2008-10 when the Lakers made three straight trips to the Finals and won two championships:

- 2008: 30.1 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 5.6 apg, .479 FG%, .302 3FG%, .809 FT%
- 2009: 30.2 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 5.5 apg, .457 FG%, .349 3FG%, .883 FT%
- 2010: 29.2 ppg, 6.0 rpg, 5.5 apg, .458 FG%, .374 3FG%, .842 FT%
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My opinion of Kobe has always remained consistent. I (well i guess everyone feels they do) don’t overrate or underrate Kobe. He was quite possibly the best second fiddle of all-time (him, Kareem, or Scottie) and will end up close to (and in some LOGICAL people’s opinion will be) a top 10 player. Kobe should get the brunt of the player credit for his latter 2 titles. He needed great bigs to win it, but that doesn’t take away that he was the best player by far, on those teams.
http://slamonline.com LakeShow

We’re not even arguing. We all agree for the most part. I just like Kobe the player more. That’s the only difference I see here.
Allen, your asking me whats so hard to grasp. Nothing. We both grasp fully whho and what Kobe is. I just like him more.
Listen it’s fine if you want to call Kobe the #2 guy on those teams with Shaq. It’s fine, because it’s true. If your not number 1, your number 2. I just recognize how important he was and don’t want that to be understated. I hate people trying to undermine Kobe. Yesterday someone was saying that Vince Carter or T-Mac could’ve won those chips with Shaq.
Even if that’s true it’s just stupid to bring up. Kobe could have possibly won those 6 chips as MJ’s replacement. I’m not going to bring that up because it’s a pointless argument. Kobe is not as good as MJ. Vince and T-Mac are not as good as Kobe. Those are the facts. Everyone wants to take things away from Kobe( ie, Team mates talent, coaching, system, organization) but if you start doing that you have to start doing that with everyone else. And that’s dumb IMO.
Bostonballer

Wow… I couldn’t read everything but my mind is boggled by the comments. lol You would think that Kobe, LBJ or whomever were our spouses or brothers…some fans defend players more seriously than they do their own families. It is fun though. lol
Sérgio

Kobe IS top 10 all time. There is no discussion.
http://slamonline.com JTaylor21

Top 15.
Bruce

Perhaps LBJ should remind Kobe that Kobe has never even been out of the first round of the playoffs without Shaq or after Shaq was gone at least two and sometimes three dominating players 6″11 or over 7 feet. Kobe and his fanboys have two claims to fame the five titles none of which he has won without dominating big men and his “clutch” shooting that when examined closely and in the light of percentage made is at best league average. With the teammates he has had,had he utilized them more instead of just relying on them to rebound and put back his bad shots the Lakers should never have been in so many games that were decided by last second shots in the first place. A lot of those games went down to the wire because Kobe helped opponents come back by trying to pad his scoring stats in games that looked like a run away by the third quarter.
http://slamonline.com LakeShow

Pretty much co-sign^, only reason why not fully, is it comes down to peoples preferences, not so much about how talented the ball players are.
I would take Kobe over Duncan. Some would have Duncan over Kobe. I can understand, but do not adhere to that point of view.
http://slamonline.com nbk

I still have never heard a logical argument for why someone would take Kobe over Duncan. For the Record.

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