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Monday, July 9th, 2012 at 9:00 am  |  63 responses

Magic, Nets, Cavs Working on Potential Dwight Howard Trade


by Marcel Mutoni @marcel_mutoni

According to the latest published reports, the Orlando Magic are working on a potential blockbuster trade for superstar center Dwight Howard. The deal involves Orlando, Brooklyn and Cleveland.

Dwight Howard would end up in Brooklyn (his preferred destination all along), while Brook Lopez and a bunch of draft picks would head to Orlando. Kris Humphries would then be dealt to the Cavaliers.

There are some landmines to side-step, however, before any deal can be completed between the three organizations. As the Plain Dealer and News-Herald explain:

In its most basic form, with many parts undetermined, the trade would send Brook Lopez and several draft choices to Orlando for Howard, while signing-and-trading Humphries to Cleveland in order to make room for Howard’s salary. But the Cavs, roughly $20 million under the salary cap, are in the business of accumulating first-round draft picks, not giving them away, so exactly how they’d fit into this deal is not clear. One of the teams is going to have to give the Cavs something — a first-round draft choice or, possibly, Nets swingman MarShon Brooks — to facilitate this deal. In addition, because Humphries is an unrestricted free agent, the Cavs could have just signed him if they really wanted him, so it’s possible an additional deal could be in the works.

A source said the holdup was the Nets wanted the Cavs to give them one of their first-round picks, which was a potential deal-breaker. Unless the Nets back off that demand, a source said, the Cavs could pull out of the talks. The Cavs have three potential first-round picks in the 2013 NBA draft, as well as two second-rounders. It’s not out of the question they could get more.

There are clearly many details still to be worked out — and other teams, such as the Philadelphia Sixers could get involved — but for now anyway, the Brooklyn Nets appear to have regained the lead over the Los Angeles Lakers in the chase for the NBA’s best center. But this thing isn’t done yet.

The Dwightmare continues, folks.

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  • http://minusthebars.blogspot.com don

    “Dwightmare.”

    Exactly.

  • MikeC.

    Send him out West, please.

  • http://moontain.org Fredd

    i don’t like the nets and i don’t like D.Howard … All this story is lame from day one and shows the immaturity of the man as the avidity of the owners.

  • ALD

    the only thing bout about this is that if the rumored deals never happen, The back up plan would be affected. I wonder how Lopez feels hearing that his team wants to trade him while he’s a free agent. Smh i hope this deal gets done for dwight because he only responsible for half of this. And for the record, Brook Lopez is a pretty good player. He may average 6-7 reb but he can get you 20 pts and a few blocks if you work with him…He is a least a top 5 center and a true center… Orlando is probably the worst managed franchise i have ever seen

  • Heals

    The irony of needing Cle to help facilitate a 3-way trade in which a team’s superstar leaves the team that drafted him is rich…

  • http://slamonline.com Krishan

    With anthony davis entering the league you better change the “at least” to “definitely not” a top 5 center. Although getting your name dragged into trade rumours is pretty suck, here’s to him using this as motivation and work harder to improve his glaring weaknesses.

  • ALD

    @krishan Anthony davis is not even a top 10 center

  • http://slamonline.com Krishan

    He will be though. And be that as it may i’d put dwight bynum horford gasol and bogut before brooke. Top 10 maybe but top five for me is a stretch

  • Matt

    Anthony Davis isn’t even a center

  • ALD

    horford is a 4 and and bogut never plays but hey, i guess this aint enough – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nS4ddNzF4bA

  • http://www.slamonline.com phsyco B

    Anthony davis is not a centre. he is a power forward…and brooke lopez is not a top 5 centre. Let’s get real people. and @krishan KG is now a centre now. 19 and 10 in the playoffs- don’t sleep. Brooke lopez and his brother are both buster’s. They’re just lucky to be tall when most big man in the NBA suck.

  • Fresh Boirdee

    ^ Gasol is not a center… Maybe Roy Hibbert, but Lopez, when healthy is very consistent and definitely a top five. And Anthony Davis is the next Tyson Chandler, take it how you want.

  • ALD

    @phsyco b….. lol u know nothing troll

  • Mas

    Anthony Davis is the next Tim Duncan. Hibbert will never be great and Tyson is great on D but subpar and O. The only true Center in the L right now with both sides of the game under his belt is Bynum.

  • LA Huey

    @Heals, hilarious. Danny G just wants to do all he can to make LBJ’s road to championships as hard as possible.

  • Mas

    And Gasol is a center. Marc Gasol is a 25-12 guy when Randolph gets hurt, which is too often.

  • http://redoftoothandclaw.ca/ niQ

    cosign don. Dwightmare indeed.

  • LA Huey

    I like Anthony Davis as well, but let’s refrain from calling someone as raw as he is on offense “the next Tim Duncan”.

  • angus

    Nets give lopez brooks humphries and others to the magic for howard and hedo. How hard is that? why involve another team? plus magic would do better this way cuz they get humphries as well

  • Lin-Dication

    If I was Brooklyn, I would just wait till next year and just sign Howard outright. Why trade all these assets when Howard’s intention is to come to Brooklyn anyways? I guess Prokhorov is trying to make a splash and sell some tickets in their first year in BK. BTW, will Knick fans who reside in Brooklyn switch allegiances to the Nets now?

  • Allenp

    I so hope this happens. The East would be CRAZY.

  • Allenp

    They can’t afford to sign him as a free agent.

  • Bt

    @Lin-dictation – are you kidding? Deron, Gerald and JJ are all at or slight past their peak, you dont waste a year of the primes of 3 players to keep m. brooks and future late first round picks

  • http://slamonline.com Krishan

    Should have clarified i meant marc not pau. And it doesnt matter what horfords natural position is he plays C and imo plays it better than brooke.

  • http://slamonline.com Datkid

    @krishan Brooke is a top 5 center. His rebounding #’s will improve once his defense get’s better he’ll be golden. everyone else you named like horford and gasol are both PF’s who moonlight at center and Bogut is a mangled shell of himself. also AD will probably also spend time at both spots

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    Center is by far the weakest position in the league.

  • Mack

    ^^ @JTaylor21 real talk. By the way is it just me or is Orlando turning down Andrew Bynum and others for Brook Lopez and draft picks? If I was the Lakers management I would take Howard over Bynum in a heartbeat I’m surprized L.A. doesn’t want to make the trade

  • Allenp

    Bynum had bad knees and a crap attitude. I would turn down that deal too.

  • Mas

    The magic re-sign nelson and let anderson walk. Good job. Good effort.

  • http://Roosterteeth.com Caboose

    Ryan didn’t walk, we got Gustavo!! Right?! (I’m trying to stay positive as my team basically collapses into itself like a dying star)

  • Ill Smith

    Wtf I don’t get it. Why is Orlando makin this deal & giving in to Dwight’s demands when they have the power now? He’s locked in another year & BK won’t have the cap space to sign him next summer…..so why the hell would y’all trade him there???? They like Brook Lopez that much? Straight up, sit Dwight down & tell him ‘were not trading you to Brooklyn. & they can’t afford to sign you next year. Get over it. Now tell us do you wanna play in Atlanta, Houston or for the Lakers’. It’s.that.simple. But no, instead of pushing for a Horford/Teague/picks package they give in & take Brook Lopez who sucks btw. Thanks for that unnecessary lockout NBA, we see the great effect it had.

  • Bola

    top center. you all are forgetting Demarcus cousins. When he’s on he can be the best. he just needs to get rid of that attitude problem he has and he can be a dominant big man

  • pposse

    haha cosign IIsmith…they should work on trading him to the lakers…if howard walks from LA he would be the biggest clown on all professional sports.

  • http://www.soundcloud.com/tray-5 T-Ray

    Lol way to stay optimistic Caboose. Ayon has great upside but if they are trying to keep Dwight I think they are continuing to show him why he shouldn’t stay.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    ILL Smith

    They get Brook and three or four first round picks and couple second round picks. That is a lot of picks to rebuild around. They will have the Nets picks, the Rockets pick? and their own picks. If they draft wisely they could be back in the playoffs pretty quickly just like OKC. That’s what everyone is trying to model themselves after.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    The Nets picks, after a Dwight trade will be useless. They really only getting 1 good pick back in the trade. It’s an awful deal. Orlando has totally screwed the pooch with this.

  • djb

    cosign lllsmith. been saying that for the longest time. orlando should get as much as possible from dwight leaving the organization. getting the most means a 3-team package deal sending dwight either to la or atlanta for bynum, other unknown players, and picks or horford, teague, devin harris, other unknown players and picks. this is NOT about satisfying dwight this about doing whats best for the organization. truly hoping this dwightmare will be over by the end of this week. its rather sad to see an extended lockout have no positive effects on the nba.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    NBK
    The Nets pick will be a low first rounder. They will have a mid first rounder from the Rockets and a high first rounder based on their own horrible record. Then the next year they will have one high first rounder and one low first rounder.
    Plus they still have Brook Lopez who can easily be an 18 and 8 and 2 guy on 51 percent shooting.
    Orlando should have traded Dwight last year, and Dwight shouldn’t have signed that extension, but I would prefer the Nets deal to the Lakers offer which includes zero good first round picks and a center with a very scary injury history.
    And trading Howard for Teague and Horford doesn’t make sense if you just re-signed Jameer Nelson. I could see possibly trading him for Horford and Josh Smith, but both of them have very large, long term deals and the Magic would just become Atlanta Magic Kingdom. They need a few decent pieces to start over, and they need a lot of picks. With the Nets trade they will be doubling up their picks for the next three years.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    And people need to stop bringing up the lockout like it failed.
    Players share of the pie shrank drastically. Smaller teams will start getting much larger revenue sharing profits. And it’s much more expensive for a super team to remain together and sign quality pieces around it’s core.
    There is no way to make every team in the NBA equal. Poor business decisions, drafting and differences in market guarantee that things will never be equal. The CBA cannot protect a team when its star player decides he’d rather play elsewhere, or even when a role player like Ray Allen decides he’d rather take a pay cut to play elsewhere.
    Learn the rules people.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Redd

    Just get it over with seriously, man to any Magic fans, I’m sorry. That Anderson trade was horrible too.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Houston’s pick is top 13 protected through 2016, then it turns into a second rounder. The picks they are receiving in this deal are putrid. The Nets picks will be in the 20s, the Rockets won’t EVER be better than 14. — Resigning Jameer Nelson was horrible. That team is trash. Having Brook Lopez, Jameer Nelson, Glenn Davis on your team for the next 4 years is like a bullet to the knee. They won’t be back in the playoffs anytime soon if they make this deal. Plain and simple.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    So you don’t see any value in having a top ten pick, a top 13 pick and a low first rounder one year, and then having a high first rounder and low first rounder for two other years? I think there is value there, but that’s my opinion.
    I don’t see how signing Bynum and pieces helps then short term or long term, and I don’t see how letting Howard walk at this point helps. I saw how letting him walk before this year’s draft helped though.

  • Duck Johnson

    At least Howard has made good on establishing himself as a ‘brand’ – he’s now instantly recognizable as the biggest clown in the NBA.

  • http://www.soundcloud.com/tray-5 T-Ray

    Allenp those picks can potentially make them a contender in the near future.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    there is some value. but that top 10 pick is their own, which they are likely going to have after any Dwight trade. I wouldn’t support any deal that forces a team into salary purgatory for another 5 years (Jameer’s new deal + Glenn Davis 3 year 20M remaining + the inevitable Max Contract you have to sign him too) while they HOPE they get a good enough pick to add an actual franchise guy. I wouldn’t do the LA trade either, I wouldn’t want to build around Bynum. Ever. — I would talk to Atlanta during the season, try and get them to take back Nelson while they take Horford, Teague, Pachulia, and Picks or something along those lines. Or I would explore the Houston scenario and get some actual value back in terms of building blocks. I wouldn’t take this Brooklyn deal, no way no how.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    the max contract was referring to Brook Lopez. My bad.

  • http://slamonline dan

    I would accept a straight trade for Kevin Love –

    Whooooo your going to to minisota

  • http://slamonline dan

    I would accept a straight trade for Kevin Love –

    Whooooo your going to to Minnesota

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    NBK
    The Jameer and Big Baby things are just horrible decision individually. Why did the Magic feel obligated to give Davis that massive deal when Boston, where he played for years, thought he wasn’t worth it. Same thing was true with the Rashard Lewis deal a while back.
    I don’t like the Houston trade because you’re getting random decent pieces, but you’ll be in that middle zone where you’re not good enough to compete and not bad enough to get good draft picks. Basically the EXACT same place Houston is right now and where they are desperately trying to escape from. I don’t like the Atlant trade for the same reason. Horford is overrated in my opinion, and Teague is still an enigma.
    I like the Nets trade for these reasons 1: I like Deron Williams and Joe Johnson. Might as well get that bias out of the way. 2. With the Nets trade you bottom out and get cheap labor in the draft, which you can either use to acquire good cheap talent, or flip for a veteran down the road to another team looking to bottom out. The Magic screwed the pooch when Otis Smith acquired all those horrible contracts and then handed out more, but they should still shoot for being horrible next year. Be as horrible as possible.

  • http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine VanCityBBall

    i dont want to see another Dwight “update” unless it head lines: Dwight Howard officially traded/ signed with ____________.

  • alphabeta

    DWIGHT WHO?

    Ans: DWIGHT AROUND YOUR LIPS

    -Mike Epps

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    we are pretty much agreeing on this. I just see Houston or even Atlanta as a better way to improve fast. The main reason I don’t like the New Jersey deal is the contract situation. I just hate Brook Lopez for anything more than $8M, and he’s going to get like $13M minimum. The Magic need to be terrible for a year or two, while freeing up a bunch of cap space. Instinctively i would take the Houston deal, and then retrade all the pieces i can for cheap talent (as you said) so that i can bottom out and begin anew. I just would stay as far away from any deal that doesn’t give me a real franchise guy unless i’m staying out of salary hell.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Redd

    @Allenp Gerald Green will maybe sign to the Bulls last I heard. But they say multiple teams have lined up alongside the Cavs to facilitate this trade. Magic can get creative and completely change their whole roster.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    NBK
    I do like the idea of taking Houston’s pieces and turning them into picks, not sure if it’s possible though because Houston has been dangling those pieces for a while and few folks are interested.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Houston has been trying to trade their pieces for better ones. Orlando wouldn’t have to do that. They could basically trim the fat by giving away everything for half it’s value. Or packaging pieces together for one decent piece.

  • LA Huey

    “And people need to stop bringing up the lockout like it failed.” We all knew the lockout wasn’t about establishing “competitive balance” and some of us are irritated that we had to have a fall with no NBA just so billionaires could squeeze money from millionaires. That’s all.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Huey
    I believe you knew the lockout wasn’t about competitive balance. Not so sure about the other folks making those comments.

  • http://www.twitter.com/gerardhimself Gerard Himself

    as a Nets fan it pains me to see MarShon Brooks being shipped too. Honestly: if the deal doesn’t happen I’m fine with it too. Keeping Lopez and Brooks gives the Nets already a pretty deep roster.

  • LA Huey

    Cleveland’s a part of these negotiations purely out of spite, right? Makes sense for a team out West to help with this but why would you want to help create a super team in your own conference?

  • http://dodgers.com Joey E.

    The Heat are done if BK pulls this off. I’m surprised that no Brooklyn heads have come out of the woodwork and gotten super excited about the potential. No one will be able to beat a D-Will/D12/Crash/JJ collabo. No one.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Redd

    @joey if BK fans don’t get super annoying like knick fans then I’ll definitely feel great about rooting for the Nets.

  • Sam

    I’m a Net fan so obviously I’m going to have to put up with people hating my team. We’re going to have a ton of bandwagoners and an equal amount of haters. I had to watch 12-70 and damn it, I don’t care what you think about our trade package.

    Dwight is a troll. Deron was a troll, he was halfway out the door before he decided to return. Johnson is overpaid, Wallace is probably overpaid. But they are still going to be so good and it’s very exciting for me. The lockout apparently worked for the NBA owners since the Nets are about to become a money making franchise and will be paying plenty of luxury tax to the rest of the league. And they are going to be relentless. Teletovic might be shades of the European Ryan Anderson.

    Black and white is coming to take over, nWo style!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/joe.l.brewer3 BlackPhantom

    LA….pull the trigger if you can

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