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Wednesday, July 4th, 2012 at 8:35 pm  |  180 responses

Phoenix Suns Sign-and-Trade Steve Nash to the L.A. Lakers for Multiple Picks


We had heard it might be New York, Toronto, Phoenix or Dallas…but it turns out it’s Los Angeles that will be the new home to Steve Nash. ESPN’s Marc Stein reports the point guard has been sign-and-traded to the Lakers for multiple picks: “In an unforeseen twist that could thrust the Los Angeles Lakers straight back into title contention, two-time NBA MVP Steve Nash has successfully negotiated a sign-and-trade deal from the Phoenix Suns to the Los Angeles Lakers that will team him up with Kobe Bryant, according to sources with knowledge of the deal. Sources told ESPN.com that the Nash, with the New York Knicks also pressing hard to complete a similar sign-and-trade deal, was swayed to join the Lakers after a determined push from Bryant and because the move not only keeps him in the title hunt but will allow Nash to stay in close proximity to his three children in Phoenix. Nash will receive a three-year deal in excess of $25 million, sources said, because the Suns ultimately agreed to sign-and-trade him to the Lakers, who can absorb Nash via the trade exception they created by dealing Lamar Odom to the Dallas Mavericks in December.”

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  • Hart

    NY couldnt let Shump go……

  • dalai lama

    and the lakers go right back 2 the top

  • http://nba.com/bulls The Babe

    ^^ what?

  • trueballer4life

    its gonna be a great season 2013, cant wait!!!..

  • BIG FOUR

    BIG FOUR!!!!!

  • Chou

    I guess that trade exception from the Odom-to-Mavs deal worked well for them.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    The Lakers engineered yet another one-sided trade that puts them right back into title contention.

  • Mark

    Not if David Stern has anything to do with it

  • Heals

    Amazing tb4life, Mia JUST won and we can’t even exhale before BK, Bos, NO, LAL, etc. heated up expectations/excitement for next year. Great job Phx, cause we all know how successful you’ve been turning late 1st round picks into quality contributors (that is of course when you aren’t giving the away for nothing, i.e. RajonRondo)…

  • Bravo

    L.a bak!

  • http://www.slamonline.com James the Balla

    I don’t know if this is good or not. If we can keep Sessions for back up, or get another good pg in then, yes? I don’t know what to think. Does Nash even want to play in L.A.? Man, this is crazy. We need to drop barnes, and blake, and get some youth in. Maybe Ilyasova. I don’t know. My mind is going crazy.

  • O

    Aaaaaaaaaaand the Knicks suck again….

  • http://thahiphopcorner.com Kevin

    Mike Brown still the coach though right?

  • http://www.soundcloud.com/tray-5 T-Ray

    Yeah boy

  • http://ZOGS1.COM ZOGS1

    UH UH UH OF THE TOP SON
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    LETS GO
    LAKESHOW
    -
    KOBE TO NASH
    GASOL IS TRASH
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    KOBE GUNNA WIN SIX
    AND ALL WE TRADED WAS *PICKSSSS**
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    AHAHHAHHA
    #LAKESHOW

  • Ben

    I’m a Suns fan but to heck with it, go Lakers get MVSTEVE a title!

  • Heals

    Good job Phx, cause we all know how successful you’ve been at turning late first round picks into quality players, that is when you aren’t giving them away for nothing (see RajonRondo)…

  • Heals

    On a side note, how bout that the “old” Lakers and Celtics stretching a few more years out of teams both their fan bases LOVE…

  • Heals

    How bout those “old” Lakers and Celtics giving the young Thunder and Champion Heat something to think about…

  • l2ising Phoenix

    So this is the answer to the tony parkers , westbrooks of this league.

  • Bravo

    I wanted Nash to come back home and play for the Raptors. But it’s cool I love L.A and the Lakers can’t wait to see clippers vs lakers

  • jinolin

    Rather see Nash with the LAL then NYK (Shump’s upside > 38yo one dimensional PG)… OKC still comes out of the west next year imho.

  • aldillan

    Lakers just got older…….

  • T-Money

    man the lakers always find a way to get good players without giving anything back in return lol. good for them, i think. just need to see if kobe will be ball dominant or not, he never really played with a pg.

  • T-Money

    but i thought nash had said something about not ring chasing and how it would be odd to join lakers…

  • http://www.slamonline.com Slick Ric

    The defense of that backcourt is going to be very bad….they were already the worst at defending PG’s.

  • Man

    F*ck, now all I’m gonna here all summer are all the obnoxious Laker bandwagon fans talk about how their team is a contender again. That trade was a rip off too.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Dagger

    This is huge for the Lakers. Nash gives them the outside shooting they need, he’ll let Kobe play off the ball more and he might even get the bigs more touches. I’m interested to see how his personality will mesh with Kobe’s, though. And I still don’t see the team getting past the Thunder.

  • LeBrOn 4 MvP!

    yo, real talk this be off the shiz nig yo. nash to bryant gon b off the chain ya feel me. real talk

  • Shifty

    Some of these trades and signs have been pretty crazy but good fun to watch. You know it’s good when you come on here and see the trades and say to yourself “what the $&@k!” with Nash in he’s going to get good looks for everyone. Hate the lakers though but good pickup for them.

  • MeloMan15

    So does this mean the Raptors still have to sign Landry FIelds to that absurd contract?

  • Ghost361

    Two ppl can facilitate now Steve Nash and gasol. Now Kobe be gun and you have respect his. And Andrew bynum omg!!!! I don’t know how lakers get best of trades. There all 1 sided and David stern does it.

  • anonymous

    lakers defense just took a step back especially in the backcourt. I thought the lakers wanted to get younger. is mike brown going to run a pg-domineering offense with nash having the ball in his hands creating off of single, double and triple screens? lawson, westbrook, paul and every other pg in the western conference must have a huge smile on their faces. but Im glad nash is off the market.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    This is good for the Knicks… A trade for Steve Nash makes absolutely zero sense. We don’t even know if Melo can thrive with Lin as the point guard.
    As for the Lakers, ANOTHER steal. Ridiculous. I can’t wait for all the LA fans to tell us how even-handed this trade was later on. “But, but the Grizziles got Marc Gasol!” Lol.

  • luv2ball

    So the lakers said that the 38 y/o D Fish was to old and so they go out and get a 39 y/o at the point? I love Steve Nash but Western Conference guards should be salivating looking at this back court. Ty Lawson, Dragic, Russell, Steph Curry, et al should eat that backcourt alive.

  • Ernie D

    Good Trade. Last Gasp. Don’t want to hear nutnin’ ’bout C’s gettin’ older with the JET signing.

  • MikeC.

    I hope Raptors management really wanted Landry Fields. Raps fans, enjoy overpaying absurdly for Fields.

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    This is awesome.

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    Lakers had to do this.

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    My team needed this. I am not a big Nash fan, plays no defense, but can shoot and pass. BOOK IT!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/joe.l.brewer3 BlackPhantom

    If Stern tries to shoot THIS one down….

  • cball

    with two boys from british columbia the lakers are gonna win the championship. some people think ontario is the basketball hotbed in canada but no it is british columbia vancouver represent.

  • cball

    ^ steve nash and this years 60th pick robert sacre

  • T-Money

    nash already in full pr mode, he did it for the kids lol: Steve Nash on why he chose LA: “This is a tough business and the only thing constant in life is change…I approached (the Suns owner & GM) & asked if they would be willing to do a sign & trade deal with L.A. because it is very important to me to stay near my children and family.They were very apprehensive and didn’t want to do it. Fortunately for me, they reconsidered.

  • onions baby onions

    ^LOL the amount of times a BC provincial team has taken down an Ontario provincial team can probably be counted on 1 hand..and in a purely hypothetical situation I’d take a team of the best players to ever come out of Ontario over a team of the best players to ever come out of BC any day

  • http://www.facebook.com/joe.l.brewer3 BlackPhantom

    So, so glad we got Nash.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7C0vd-L5lg Munky

    Why isn’t this the top story? Compared to this, nobody gives a damn bout no Eric Gordon.

  • barnabusb

    Good for LA. I’d like to see Kobe’s stats go down and his efficiency go up. Nash could be just what Kobe needs to extend his career a few more years.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Redd

    Lol you guys are crazy this won’t get Lakers a chips.

  • Steve the cannon

    Lol @ Zogs freestyle
    And Great trade for LA

  • MeloMan15

    Bc vs Ontario? you must be kidding me. I’m from Toronto. In grade 9 I went to one of the top summer basketball camps in Vancouver and they were calling me Lebron

  • http://www.facebook.com/joe.l.brewer3 BlackPhantom

    PG-Steve Nash
    SG-Kobe Bryant
    SF-….IDK, probably World Peace
    PF-Pau Gasol
    C-Andrew Bynum

    …That’s arguably one of the best starting lineups in the L

  • Heals

    Damn, I shoulda trusted you SLAM when my comments weren’t initially showing up. Probs with comment system, not this guy…

  • sid

    so we now have a one-dimensional offensive player (nash) playing under a one-dimensional defensive coach (brown). interesting?! can brown effectively utilize nash`s offense while masking his defensive inefficiencies and still make kobe happy? something to think about. I also wonder how nash`s 38-year old body will hold up in la without his miracle medical staff back in phoenix.

  • Billybinet

    Lakers are going all for one. They will trade bynum for Howard, gasol will be so much better now with Nash. no one gets Kobe has never had a Pg with the skills of Nash. Kobe had to be the distributor during the lakers threepeat in 2000′s. Gasol will be better they will have darius morris, devin ebanks and andy gouddilock to back up the guards. Could young players have any more help fro the most experienced backcourt in NBA history Kobe will divert less energy and still b able to score. Lakers will compete but unless they trade bynum and cash for howard they are not as good as OKC

  • Henron.

    You can hardly call Nash a one dimensional offensive player. He could kill you from the three or with his court vision.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Dagger

    Being a one-dimensional player means you only excel at a specific role. It’s really the definition of a sub-par role player. Nash is STILL the best combination of shooting and passing in the game, and he can take it to the rim. He’s increasingly a complete non-entity on D but that doesn’t mean he’s one-dimensional.

  • http://sdflfskl.com Jukai

    Ugh f*ck Steve Nash.
    So disgruntled right now.
    We coulda had Iman…

  • jinolin

    @Dagger– Since he lacks on the D but exceeds on O… thus making him one dimensional?

  • http://kb24.com x-DrEw_MaiN-x

    Great job LA now you really can’t defend any elite point guards you just brought an improved DFish

  • T-Money

    to be honest, i have no idea what this does for LA. i can’t wrap my mind around kobe playing with a ball dominant point guard. i guess we’ll just have to see this one play out on the floor.

  • Mike

    laker s again show how good it is to be in LA. these guys always get back to the top and get whatever free agent they can- they have the market and the money- but most of all they have the management. New York has similar advantages- but havent been able to put together anything close to a dynasty all these years- despite having the best city, the mecca of ball, for it.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Dagger

    @jinolin There are more dimensions to the game than D and O.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Dagger

    @ jinolin: there are more dimensions to the game than D and O.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Redd

    The mecca? Lol Chicago has dethroned new york as the mecca of basketball.

  • Rainman

    I guess ppl cud shut up now about how all steve nash caring about is money lol. He took 11 million dollars less for a chance to stay close to his kids(family is a top priority for him, same reason he signed his last extenstion with phx, when everyone was caling him dumb) and a chance to compete for a ring. Yes, im looking at you nbk, and jtaylor

  • sid

    meant “one-dimensional player” with *offense being that one dimension

  • Rainman

    @ redd: lol ur silly…everyone knows new york has always been the mecca of basketball. Regardless of how bad they are. The title” mecca” doesn’t go around to whatever team is hot. If that was the case it wud have been chicago bak in the jordan days, and the lakers last decade…smh… good luck on ur rose-less season btw :)

    @slam: when dwill signed bak with nj, it wasn’t the top story, still the eric gordon story was tops, and even now that nash is going to the lakers, the gordon story iss till the top story? WTF? ?

    Lol…chicago passing new york as the mecca of basketball…and im not even a knicks fan lol

  • sid

    @dagger let me put it this way: nash is a superb offensive player and a horrible defensive player.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7C0vd-L5lg Munky

    Redd, the Lakers have an infinitely better chance of competing for a title than the Bulls in the Second City, oops I meant Third City in flyover country that tries to hard but no one pays attention to.

  • sid

    @dagger let me put it this way: nash is a superb offensive player and also a defensive liability. does one attribute supercede the other? No. I think they balance each other out. so will this move make la a better team if their offense does in fact improve while their backcourt defense worsens (and becomes older since sessions will probably not be resigned with starter nash and backup blake already there).

  • Juice

    As great as Steve Nash, he is too old. Sure he will mesh well with kobe but these to guys are too old. I dont like the Thunder but i still think theres no way the lakers beat them and theres no way kobe and nash beat westbrook and KD.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Redd

    Um have you seen all the guys coming out of Chicago? What’s the last great player new york has produced?

  • http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/2010/10/the-sad-case-of-adam-morrison/ vantot fresnedee

    nash averaged 10 assists with marcin gortat as his best finisher at the rim.
    imagine all spoon feeding bynum will receive this year.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Redd

    Lol, no the hell they don’t, they couldn’t even get past the Spurs let alone the Thunder even with Nash. Flyover country? The city with the player who has the #1 selling jersey in the USA? LMFAO shut up and sit down.

  • LeBrOn 4 MvP!

    nash assist machine real talk yo. bynum gasol gon be happy. wher the nba memes at, its bout to go down son!

  • http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/2010/10/the-sad-case-of-adam-morrison/ vantot fresnedee

    how is nash one dimensional again?

  • http://www.nba.com Dacre

    Nash to the suns . . . Awesome. I’m taking my talents . . As the number one nash fan to LA.

  • http://Slamonline.com Datkid

    The lakers now have an all all-star starting 5, with 1 Olympic gold medalist, 1 finals MVP, 1 fiba MVP, 2 regular season mvps,1 European player of the year, 3 Olympians, and 1 rookie of the year and 3 arguably 4 people who could be in the hall of fame by the end of their careers (Kobe,Nash, Pau, and probably Bynum)…..that’s ridiculous. AND THEY CAN STILL GET DWIGHT.TERRIFYING. The downside is that as currently constructed athletic pg’s (which are plentiful) will put up career #’s against them. The upside is that a quick trade for Dwight means that as soon as those same PG get past Nash they’ll run straight into Dwight, meaning that they’re far less likely to score a lot of points. Also, if they get Dwight and Nash can make Metta shoot decently and make him slightly less crazy… The lakers will have virtually no holes in their roster outside of mike brown’s incredible stupidity and Kobe’s late game hero-ball habits

  • heyheyhey

    Too bad the nba doesn’t own the suns hahha

  • AlbZ

    To thise saying the trade was a ripoff. Nash was a free agent, PHX got some picks and let the guy who made their franchise relevant earn a bit more cash. Win win.

  • Rylee

    Im curious as to what number he will be wearing (13 is retired in LA)

  • http://Slamonline.com Datkid

    The only bad part about this trade is that Steve Nash won’t be there to mentor my homie Kendall Marshall.

  • robb

    nice

  • Trilla

    This trade won’t mean anything if the Nets end up with Howard and the Miami Heat are able to sign Ray Allen or a player of his caliber. Either way though, goddamn the NBA is getting exciting by the day. The Lakers are now even more of a contender, the Knicks are finally winning some games and are full of drama, Miami just won a championship, Brooklyn is now relevant and might get Howard, the Clippers are winning, the Thunder are only going to get better unless something happens along the way, Chicago is great as long as they get Rose back healthy,the Hornets drafted what seems to be a franchise player, etc. It seems as though all the major teams and big markets have everything going their way.

  • Trilla

    And for those of you saying the Lakers are going to now get Howard, the Magic would have to be stupid to accept that trade. Bynum alone is not worth a franchise player like Howard. Statistically they may be comparable but Howard is the face of a franchise while Bynum is just merely a really good player.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Redd

    Im going to laugh when the playoffs come and the Lakers get eliminated. Nash is not the answer, the triangle offense is gone now lol. Kobe won’t have the ball and thus won’t be as affective. Lakers fans can get as bad as Heat fans honestly.

  • http://redoftoothandclaw.ca niQ

    w t f nash.

  • Nashty

    GREAT JOB L.A.
    I only hate NASH’s coming out of PHOENIX.
    But we still here to support STEVE NASH.

  • http://www.sportsgrid.com/media/shaq-kobe-highlights/ shutup

    wow I might find myself rooting for the Lakers to win a title this year, I mean only if the Spurs can’t do it.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7C0vd-L5lg Munky

    I’m gonna laugh for the next couple of seasons when the Bulls have the same playoff results as this year. I’m not a Lakers fan at all but you’ve got to be high if you think the Bulls have a better shot. At full strength they couldn’t beat Miami last year, can’t beat the old azz Celts, won’t even beat the Nets. And yes, Chicago is in flyover country. Sorry, but there’s nothing you can do about that. It’s just one of the places you pass going from coast to coast. Rose has the no. 1 selling domestic jersey yet he’s still not half as recognizable as Lebron or Kobe outside of Chicago.

  • Surety

    The game has changed now where basically no one can guard quick perimeter players one on one. It’s all about team defense. Kobe, Artest or Barnes will be guarding the best perimeter player on the other end. Even then, they have Bynum and Gasol to fall back on. Nash’s defensive shortcomings are not really huge liabilities. This does a lot for the Lakers’ offense though, but it depends on how far Kobe lets it.

  • Mufasa

    for the people saying they don’t know how or don’t think Steve Nash is a good pick up… Let me explain… You have a point guard that you can depend on to take a clutch shot, or create a clutch shot from anywhere on the floor in close games… You have a point guard with a 3 to 1 assist to turnover ratio… He averaged almost 11 assists per game (PLAYING WITH BUMS) and 13 points… He is one of the best free throw shooters to EVER play the game…. Also year in and year out he is over 40% from the three…. Haters still to this day baffle me… You all are a bunch of Skip Bayless’s. I’m sure Kobe pushed for this trade because he thought he couldn’t co-exist…. But Derek Fisher was the only player to play with him over 10 years and just happened to be a point guard….. Meet me in Bristol… Unless your scared

  • http://www.slamonline.com Redd

    Lol Lakers don’t have a chance. Bulls have the best chance still once Rose is back. Nets haven’t become that high powered. Last I checked Lakers couldnt get past Thunder..what’s your point? There is none lol, Rose is simply a behemoth. Lakers are done for, Kobe won’t win another ring. Lebron has a better chance lol.

  • l2ising Phoenix

    I think metta is out the door soon…but for who 0_o.

  • l2ising Phoenix

    @Red , dam stop slurping d rose dude. All of your comments and arguements are biased. Dude realisticlly you should be worried about how long rose is gonna come back from that ACL injury and if he will be the same player. Chicago hasn’t made any noise this offseason other than losing asik. The lakers obviously have a better chance at a chip this upcoming season than the bulls. Heck, my Knicks have a better chance. Just hope that the bulls can make the playoffs and stay relevant in the east. Deng was an allstar by default and Noah is too one dimensional and injury prone to take the reins of that team untill rose gets back, face it man , they were beaten by the 7th/8th seeded sixers without your golden boy. You must be stressed bro. Its ok though. Get well soon Rose, Redds sanity relies on it.

  • ai come back

    i disagree with redd about the bulls chances but CHICAGO AINT FLYOVER COUNTRY IT IS THE NEW MECCA OF BASKETBALL

  • b2bmvpnashty

    This is awesome! I’m a suns fan, but an even bigger nash fan! I am so happy that nash will end his career, with a couple of more shots at winning a title, and with the possibility of LA getting D howard, wow, that would be it, done deal, title would come back to the Lakers for sure!

  • b2bmvpnashty

    Not only that, but if you all remember the last interview that kobe had, when the lakers were eliminated from playoff contention by the thunder, he was asked, “is the last chance you will ever have at winning title, is the last hurrah”? Kobe used some very choice words, but in short, he was very upset to here that comment, and said “we will be back in title contention, believe that”! I would not want to be the thunder, when this newly revamped lakers team hits the floor next season, especially if they get howard!

  • Zoom

    Don’t get all excited FAKERS your team ain’t even close to that ring yet they gotta get past Heat,OKC,Clippers,Bulls & so much other teams before they can get that ring. #OLDMENCANTBALL

  • http://www.slamonline.com Redd

    Man Slam won’t post my reply WTF

  • yann

    Nobody knows how happy I am to have a PG that’s nashty

  • http://www.nba.com Dacre

    I’m loving this move on so many levels. Nash will turn pau into an allstar. Kobe won’t have to create for himself and i’ll get another nash jersey to add to my collection. LA AND HEAT FINAL. You watch guys try and flog Nash now. The people’s elbow will be his greatest body guard of all time. 3rd MVP coming for nash.

  • Hersey

    Still kinda shocked the Suns traded him to the Lakers but after hearing the details it makes sense. Kinda stoked to see how this Lakers team puts it together.

  • hyperactive

    la just had a good pass 1st pg in sessions and they didnt maximize his abilities yet fans jumped the gun early in thinking that the acquisition automatically made la title contenders. 4 months later, fans are overly zealous once again about a starting pg who is 12 years older. this nash trade is do or die for la? and I can see them getting to the 2nd round but not to the finals.

  • http://www.nba.com Dacre

    And what about the suns. Four picks in the next three seasons us they got dragic back today and mike beasley. They gunna be okay.

  • Drig

    Zoom……..the Celts, Spurs and Lakers don’t exist do they??? Anyways, this is a HUGE upgrade for LAL. For guys worrying about D, I don’t see how much worse LAL’s perimeter D can be than vs Thunder. When Sessions was like a bull with no head on top. Nash and Kobe are trying to get Grant Hill on the team. Hill has said he’d love to re-sign with LAL. Now, if only Dwight trade does happen…….LAL would’ve ridden the tide all the way to the Championship. Bynum, Metta, Blake/Morris/Goudelock for Dwight and JRich. I swear I won’t ask for anything more the next season too lol.

  • Drig

    BTW Slam folks, one question : Would you prefer a lineup of Nash/Kobe/Iggy ( no there aren’t any trade rumors. I just wanna have an opinion )/ Hill / Pau with a solid enough bench or Nash/Kobe/?/Pau/Dwight with a not so solid bench?

  • http://www.nba.com Dacre

    I’m happy to be a Nash fan this season. He’s off to Hollywood!!!

  • http://www.nba.com Dacre

    Drig you gotta take depth. So your first option.

  • Rainman

    Edd has gotta be onne of the Rmost ignorant and biased dudes here lol, probably up there with seed. And i think seed trolls on purpose, our dude redd is serious, which is the sad part lol

  • http://www.nba.com Dacre

    That first option in answer to your question is better. Iggy would be great to have and you get depth. Need that to have a great chance to winit all. The heat were one bosh spleen away from coming up short. . .

  • Rainman

    Redd i meant* lol

    Also slam, u guys are slow, draguc signed with the suns ooveran hour ago

  • http://www.slamonline.com Redd

    Your 8th seed Knicks? Lol, see thing is yes ima big fan but my existence doesn’t depend on sports. I’m studying to do work in 3rd world countries you REALLY think I’m stuck on a team that hard? Yeah Bulls won’t be so good this year Idc I’m excited as hell for this season I’ll watch almost every game.

  • hyperactive

    @drig the only la player with any value in that la-orl trade scenario is bynum who is not even as valuable as howard in terms of talent, dominance & marketing. metta, blake/morris/goudelock are insignificant and unwanted by orlando. a bk-orl trade scenario sending jj, lopez, brooks and maybe a 1st rounder to orl for dwight and hedo seems more enticing. esp because orl wants to rid themselves of hedo`s contract over that of jrichardson`s. theyve been trying to include hedo in every possible trade.

  • AQWORD

    D-Fence wins Championships so i dont see the Lakers winning ish this year … or the next.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Redd

    Its all good Rain, but again you haven’t answered me. Whats the last great player NY has come out with? What makes me ignorant? Not agreeing? Cmon dude lol. Chicago is the new basketball Mecca & ik I’m bias with the Bulls but not this.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Redd

    Rose is a player who won’t give up, even if it takes him a while he’ll be a monster again but if this is the end of his elite status I know he’ll have given his all. Get over it man Knicks suck.

  • AQWORD

    … but at least it wont be as painfull watching them play now though that the ball will be out of Lobes hands.

  • Dungeon Family

    @AQWORD Why you a Hater but still watch?

  • roybot

    ….And Landry Fields is now a Toronto Raptor.

  • http://bedotwater.bandcamp.com BE.water

    Chicago is not the new mecca of basketball. Im sorry to burst your bubble, it just isnt.

  • buppie

    Is adding a talented but 39 year old guard to the team that got killed by the young OKC Thunder really the answer?

  • Drig

    @hyperactive………not if you include Bynum. Brook Lopez is and will be a far cry from the impact even Bynum provides on D. And Bynum is a much much better offensive player who can improvise. Both have below average footspeed and Bynum is the better rebounder. Brooks is as insignificant as Metta right now. In a year or two, that may change. And that 1st rounder is gonna be useless if Dwight-Deron team up. Personally, after thinking it out, even I like Darce think getting Iggy+Hawes+parts for Pau would make this team look really well-rounded if they do deal Pau. However, if Mitch can retain all of them and get Rush for the final 3million LAL can spend in the FA or rotate the bench pieces and get better players somehow or screw Philly/Houston by getting Iggy/Martin and their 2012 draft picks, I’d say he deserves a long vacation. Yeah, pipe dream. :D

  • NinerFan

    killed by the thunder? the lakers blew three 4th quarter leads in that series. Now they have a better ball handler then steve blake during crunch time. It’s to bad that the heat didn’t have an elite pg defender to defend those elite pg’s.

  • Drig

    @buppie……..we lost vs OKC at the end of late games because our O either became stagnant because OKC packed the paint and forced Kobe to win ( which gave pretty mixed results ) or our perimeter players sans Kobe clanked open shots. Nash can make these Lakers move better than Sessions can in his sleep and can get open shots for Kobe/Pau/Bynum by probing into the paint whenever necessary or hitting those open 3s consistently when Kobe/Pau/Drew work the post. Nash’s D isn’t too much of a problem for LAL since Sessions barely did anything more than a traffic cone would on O or on D vs OKC. We still need to work out the bench but if you swap Sessions with Nash, I say LAL would win in 6 or 7.

  • http://9gag.com/gag/4568611 Max

    Nash isn’t one dimensional, he’s a one way players, big difference there.

  • Mark

    last time I checked, OKC was still the Western Conference Champs and should still be rated #1 in the West until they don’t make the Finals?

  • http://www.gil1906.com Pve_2@yahoo.com

    Thank God the Knicks failed in their attempt to trade Shump. That would have been terrible.

  • AQWORD

    @Dungeon -Im a supporter of good ball. it was a fact that the Lakers had maad talent yet couldn put it into proper motion & make something out of it coz Lobe had the ball for too long. I should have said annoying to watch.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7C0vd-L5lg Munky

    Redd, you haven’t posted one single basketball comment worth reading other than for a laugh. I’m just going to call you Third City Flyover Redd. Your opinions are all DRose slurps. Nothing more. Read this very carefully: THE BULLS WILL BE NON-FACTORS in the playoffs for the next couple of seasons. Oh, and I’d STILL take Kobe right now over Rose.

  • thecomputerdude

    They got rid of Fisher for an older PG? SMH

  • http://www.slamonline.com Redd

    You think it matters what you think? HAHA Lakers won’t win anything neither will Knicks but the Bulls, once Rose is back will be right back at it. Rose is going to continue dominating & I’ll keep chearing. Oh and again how is New York still the Mecca? NOBODY has explained.

  • http://360special.blogspot.ca dev0

    No way the Suns hold on to all those picks, maybe more deals to come or do they stand pat with what they have? Do those picks facilitate a move for Pau or Bynum? Nash was a huge domino and now there’s room for more moves, though I hope they keep MWP…

  • http://www.newyorkshockexchange.com Shock Exchange

    Riddle me this: “How many 38 year old PGs have ever led a team to a ‘chip?” Lakers are old, with no bench, and wedded to the “pass to Horry Jr” offense.

  • http://360special.blogspot.ca dev0

    * I meant maybe the picks could have facilitated a Lakers trade involving either of their post players. Seems like fewer assets make it harder to trade either Pau or Bynum, so maybe they’re keeping that frontcourt in place. All speculation

  • ecodemolish

    A 60 year old PG who doesn’t play D. Nice move.

  • Brahsef

    @Redd NY is the mecca because of how bball culture is engrained into the city’s DNA. Sort of how like NY is the mecca of hiphop. It has to do from a cultural standpoint

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7C0vd-L5lg Munky

    Redd is probably a teenager so to engage him on any discussion about anything related to history, anything that doesn’t involve the here-and-now is pointless. In fact, he doesn’t even seem to have a grasp on the present. He think the Bulls, who have yet to make any significant changes to their roster, whose best player isn’t coming back until next spring (minus some of his explosiveness), is really in a better position to compete for a chip than the Lakers. Nevermind the fact that this team damn near got swept in the first round without Rose. Forget the fact that at full strength Miami tossed them in 5 games, with Miami being together for the first time. This kid is the definition of delusional.

  • Sérgio

    I can hear a lot of people sayin’ that LA still won’t get past OKC and stuff…how can you be so sure about that? Remember, even though LA x OKC series was 4 x 1, it was MUCH closer than it seems. If not for late-game collapses, LA could have easily been up 3×1, with 3 chances to close the deal. I really believe that if everyone in the Lakers had played up to their potencial (yes, I’m looking at you, Pau and Andrew), the Lakers’d have won the series, and possibly the WCF against SA. But I don’t think they would’ve beaten MIA anyway.

  • https://slamonline.com Allenp

    We do remember that the last time Steve Nash played on a team with two quality big men who liked to take up space in the post he was very unhappy, right? Right?
    Because we do realize that SSOL is NOT following Steve Nash to Los Angeles, right? Right?

  • http://www.newyorkshockexchange.com Shock Exchange

    AllenP, we finally agree. I must be growing on you. Right? Right?

  • Robb

    Chicago the Mecca of basketball? holy crap thats stupid.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Sure.

  • pposse

    good move for the lakers..unfair but as is life i guess…the lakers have to be the favorites to come outta the west..those idiots need to get a new coach and they should be meeting MIA in the finals next year..and finally lbj will own kobe on the biggest stage…Munky your a moron…chi town will never be a passover city

  • http://www.newyorkshockexchange.com Shock Exchange

    Cool, you’re back on the list.

  • http://abcnews.com charliewinning

    The perimeter defense for the Lakers went from bad to worse…Sooo I guess I’m not the only person that sees Redd is on bath salts?

  • pposse

    you guys are all crazy..if you take the current nba players and form teams based on regions, the chicago players would murder all teams..we get KG by the way as much as he hated chicago he learned how to really play ball out here…the only area that might give us some trouble is seattle/west coast..and in no way shape or form does LBJ go to NY in this scenario..if anything he also belongs on the chicago roster or ohio if ohio even produced 5 bball players in the nba

  • pposse

    ny can hold the title of ‘mecca’ forever for all we care..but don’t get it misconstrued NBA talent currently resides heavily in Chicago…NY has ballers that would be great for And One mixtapes..oh wait does that even exist anymore?!

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7C0vd-L5lg Munky

    ^^Was reading up until you said “and in no way shape or form does LBJ go to NY in this scenario..if anything he also belongs on the chicago roster or ohio if ohio even produced 5 bball players in the nba”…You’re babbling, not making any sense, and quite frankly you sound short school bus special.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Redd

    @munky I’m not reading no damned story lol. Basketball is engrained in chicagos fabric too..what’s your point? New York used to produce big time players but not anymore.

  • pposse

    “you sound short school bus special” wtf does that mean? either way facts are facts home boy…chi town has better ball players than anywhere in the world..from the bottom to the top..from the playgrounds to the NBA

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7C0vd-L5lg Munky

    I didn’t want to use the R word (political correctness is serious around here), but you definitely sound like you ride that short yellow school bus, homie. @Redd, your professional team doesn’t even get as much local support as the White Sox. Nobody is saying chicago doesn’t produce ballers, but it takes more than the locals to declare a place a mecca. Sorry lil guy but you don’t even understand the significance of that term.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Redd

    U mean selling out every home game? You clearly are just making stuff up, give facts kid. So it doesn’t take producing great players from a vibrant basketball active city? Do tell what it takes? AGAIN NOBODY can name the last great player from NY, it’s the Mecca they should have ONE.

  • pposse

    omg munky we need to put you on a 12 step program…first you need to admit to yourself that Chi town has more relevant basketball players in the NBA for atleast the past ten years and that this trend will only continue…your last step will be for your to spread the good word..but we know you won’t just cause your too proud to actually do something like that

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7C0vd-L5lg Munky

    Redd, let’s be real here, selling tickets has no place in the convo. The Knicks did that when they weren’t even close to making the 8th seed. NY fan base >>>Chicago fan base. That arena is quiet even during a sellout. Even Rose said it. Is it not a fact that The Bulls aren’t the most popular franchise in Chicago? Is it not a fact that Melo is from NY? Is it not a fact that after Rose, your two most important players are from NY? Is it not a fact that without two dudes from NY, the Lakers would be missing a couple of championships? Besides Wade (who’d be ringless without Shaq and Bron), when was the last time a Chi-town guy led a team to a championship? You’re in the same boat as NY on that point since ’06. Rose isn’t winning a ring any time soon. They won’t make it out the East, and even if they did they can’t beat OKC. I give more props to the west coast because Chicagoans are always screaming for attention. I’ve had waaaay better runs in Cali than in Chicago. @pposse, you really can’t put together a coherent thought, can you?

  • pposse

    is it not a fact that carmello is from west baltimore? chicago is a sports town and espn awarded us as the greatest sports town in america..hence espn.chicago, the first website espn ever dedicated to one city (since then ny, boston and la got their own site). Anthony Davis (from chicago) is the number one pick in the draft too!

  • http://www.slamonline.com Redd

    Lmfao you said Bulls don’t get local support idiot, and I said they sell out. Please find the source that says the Rose said that the Bulls stadium isn’t loud? You’re making yourself look bad. Two most important? Thought Deng was from Africa lmao idiot. So your last great NY player is Melo? Type for proving my point.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Redd

    Thank you*

  • pposse

    and munky since your such a great baller, why don’t you ask the And One crew why they could never win when they came into Chicago?

  • pposse

    *melo born in bk but grew up in baltimore…if NY really wants melo that bad then fine, take him but do note the tat on shoulder stands for west baltimore. You might start saying that MJ is from NY too since he was born there and lived there for like three months of his life smh.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Redd

    ^I assumed he was born in BMore so when I saw Brooklyn, NY I pressumed I was wrong & he grew up in NY. Another L for you Munky.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7C0vd-L5lg Munky

    Melo went to Baltimore when he was about 8. He left high school there and went to Virginia at Oak Hill. Fall back. You don’t even know what you’re talking about. He considers NY his hometown. If I had a dollar for every time he said “I’m happy to be back home” or “I’m playing for my hometown team. He can still love Baltimore, but he’s still a native New Yorker. Secondly, I said the Bulls weren’t as popular as the White Sox in their own city. Learn to comprehend. Thirdly, Derrick Rose acknowledged in an interview that the stadium just doesn’t get really loud like other arenas in the league. The haven’t had the heart of the city since Jordan left. Deal with it. Noah and Gibson and arguably more important that Deng since he’s rumored to be shopped, and the Bulls are way more successful with Gibson than they are with Boozer.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7C0vd-L5lg Munky

    Oh and posse, And One went national when they added national players. You think I care about a corporate street ball tour whose purpose wasn’t to win, but to do tricks? FOH. Wait Redd, you didn’t even know the basics of Melo’s story? You should have excused yourself from that part of the debate Third City Flyover boy.

  • pposse

    He still has a tat on his shoulder that says West Baltimore..he grew up there and most importantly learned how to hoop over there before going to Oak Hill for high school. Even still i’ll give you young Carmella, take him. The Bulls are definately as popular if not more than the White Sox. If you are referring to Jerry Reinsdorf (owner of both teams) opinion on the matter, he will tell you that his passion is baseball. He likes the White Sox more, and your right the arena does not get as loud as I would like it to get, but that might be because of the acoustics of the stadium and the fact that its simply bigger than a lot of the older stadiums such as Madison Square Garden or the OKC stadium or the Indiana stadium etc etc.

  • pposse

    you should kno by now chi town is a huge sports town..we got two baseball teams a bball team and a football team, and our hearts our big enough to hold down every last one of those teams whenver however and for whatever reason. Those reasons include me debating you online lol.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7C0vd-L5lg Munky

    You mean those stadiums where people get up off their feet to support their teams? OKC, the Garden, Boston Garden, those fans go nuts. Don’t blame the acoustics. And I’m not arguing Melo’s tats. I have no problem with him loving West B-More but he clearly states what his hometown is. His love of the game he brought with him to B-More. All around zi wouldn’t say there’s bigger sports towns than NY Bos or Philly. They all have multiple teams with rabid fan bases. Super Bowl and World Series appearances in the last few years. Fans stick with their teams through good and bad times. That’s how I judge fan loyalty. Not just when a team is hot or has recent success.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Redd

    LMFAOOOOOOO Deng is the 2nd most important HANDS DOWN. LOL you’ve lost all credibility. Just cause Melo came back to where he was born doesn’t mean NY made him into the player he is. LOL SHUT UP, that comment about Deng was suicide. Again link me to the interview or shut up. You lack knowledge, typical Knicks fan.

  • pposse

    lol you dont get it..we had the greatest basketball team to ever play in chicago…hell it might have been the greatest team in all of professional sports…and they dominated year after year after year. The bar is set fifty times higher for us ‘spoiled’ fans as you view us. It is just the way it is, and i don’t blame you for not understanding this, cause if you aren’t from around here then you will never know what i am talking about.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7C0vd-L5lg Munky

    Sorry Third City Flyover, but I’ll take management’s views over yours. Deng is their glue guy no doubt. However, he was almost on his way out several times. That says a lot about how the owners view him…When I have time I’ll google the article. Rose himself spoke on it. And no, I’m not going to “shutup”, keyboard thug. Was I supposed to be intimidated by the caps?lmao. No, please don’t E-Scream. Its scares me. Hahaha. You can’t speak on Melo if you just now found out where he was born and raised. You’re slow if you didn’t know all of that stuff. It’s like you don’t know anything about anything outside of Chicago. Have you ever even been on a plane? @pposse: Greatest sports team of all-time? That was a joke right? And nobody views Bulls fans as “spoiled”. Just annoying. Read anything Redd posts and you can see why. This fool still believes the Bulls are contenders smh. BTW, The Dream Team was the greatest basketball team ever assembled and the Celtics and Lakers are the greatest basketball franchises ever. Chicago had a great run, but when stacked up against history they are still in third place. Like the city itself. LOL

  • http://www.slamonline.com Redd

    Wait, I never said we’re winning a chip, I do believe we’re contenders, why wouldn’t I? We got #1 back to back. But is there a chance we’ll get knocked out? Hell yeah we’re not gonna go too far this year but I believe in us still. But don’t make me laugh, people find Knicks fans super obnoxious. And we still have the best team in the history of the NBA, PERIOD. HAHA.

  • http://abcnews.com Munky

    Yes, record wise the ’95-’96 Bulls posted the most wins in a single NBA season, which is different from your statement of “we still have the best team in the history of the NBA”. If you need that explained to you shouldn’t even watch basketball anymore. Seeding doesn’t matter much if you get the same playoff result as an 8th seed. A near sweep is a near sweep whether you’re 1 or 8.

  • pposse

    72-10 son need i say more?! GOAT need i say more?! we have seen the best do it period. You will never understand our perspective unless you been watching all of the regular season games and not just the playoffs/finals..NEVER will you understand! 90% of sportswriters/ stat guys etc. will probably tell that the 72-10 Bulls were the best team ever! I’m telling you right now growing up I never had to sweat out a victory, games were over by the third quarter. It was just commmon knowledge that no matter what our team would win, as a Knicks fan you will never understand that or that mentality. It takes a lot for us to cheer obnoxiously if thats what you think makes a town a great sports town. Everyone here knows their ish man, the Bulls are definately contenders with a healthy Rose…slam also pre ranked d rose outside of the top ten when he won the MVP, take it for what it is our team is definately contending with a healthy Rose.

  • http://abcnews.com Munky

    They were the best team of their era. Like I said, you guys don’t really seem to know much outside of what was happening in your own area or time period.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Redd

    It’s only basketball, I’m not too worried about who’s better but as a fan it’s fun to argue it. And I know more than just Chicago lol. One thing that can’t be argued is that Knicks are one of the most annoying fan base currently.

  • http://abcnews.com Munky

    As long as you realize Bulls fans are right up there with them :D

  • l2ising Phoenix

    Yo Redd, guess what? The GOAT himself is from Brooklyn , new York. Yes Michael Jordan. You must feel so deceived that the man that is the icon of Chicago is from NY, don’t slit your wrists as yet. Let it sink in. Sure D. Rose is a great product of Chicago, but ny has produced the GOAT. Burned.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Redd

    LMFAO he was born there, not from there you obnoxious fan. LOL wow, he moved out when he was a ‘toddler’. LOL wow knick fans are the worst.

  • l2ising Phoenix

    So what’s the parameters of your definition of a player who has produced a player? You must have the clear cut guidelines. Your arguements are irrelevant. Who cares where players were “produced” , your hard on for chicago is tremendous. No homo.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Redd

    Oh.

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