Tuesday, August 7th, 2012 at 10:15 am  |  129 responses

Andrew Bogut Says He is Offered Drugs in Australian Nightclubs Regularly


Andrew Bogut offered his thoughts on a drug incident that rocked the Australian Football League, and described his own experiences when it comes to narcotics. Per the Daily Telegraph: “He said the latest offer of cocaine was last week. ‘The first thing the host asked me was do you want some coke,’ he told SEN 116. ‘I said there is no chance because I don’t do that stuff and I never have and I never will. But kids do get caught up with that.’ Bogut said he probably didn’t agree with the AFL’s three-strike drug policy, hinting that players should not be given three chances before being suspended. ‘Take your penalty and you’re gone for a little while,’ he said. Bogut said illicit drug use was not only a problem in sport, but society in general.”

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  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Heals, very interested. Heard him just the other day speaking on them. It’s about as “un-drug like” as possible while giving you a completely drug like experience. Very interesting stuff. It’s the use of salt in the water that makes you feel weightless. Like how in the (I believe) Red Sea you can float without trying.
    retloc glad you back me up on the waiting. Wait as long as possible, but at least till 18-20 years of age. Nothing wrong with waiting till 30 plus too.
    retloc’s POV is a very interesting one. He has pretty much the opposite view than that of what “mommy and daddy”(goverment, parents, people in power) told you.
    They want you to live in a cage. They don’t want you to explore your brain. Do not explore old history. Do not explore “world shattering” ideas… Makes sense huh?
    An earth shattering idea is just that. Someone finds out that a drug can do positives for them and allow them to see things differently, and they want to tell the world of this amazing thing.
    “Look how I was able to view this subject through an irregular method!”
    But what if that amazing method makes you “turn on, tune in, and drop out?”
    I hope it does do that.
    Why is that a bad thing?
    People should embrace cultural changes(not all, but they aren’t all bad). Even if it is by the use of psychedelics. Detach ones self from the existing ‘norm’ and the ridiculous hierarchies that society deems good, and necessary.
    I don’t think anyone “needs” to do drugs, but WOW they could help allot of people…

  • Allenp

    Getting high is your business. I don’t indulge for a variety of reasons but I am not a narcotics virgin. I but I likely have vastly different views on the mind, life and narcotics than most of you. You open certain doors and certain things.come in. Consequences for every choice.

  • retloc

    Agree 1000% lakeshow, people get so caught up in “normal” and “expected” that sometimes we forget ourselves. Most people I know and work with think im a little deranged, I guess would be a good way to put it, and mostly just because I put myself out there. There is no time to waste being what you believe others want or expect out of you. I feel like such a slave with the day to day, but im able to step back and realize that I have several choices I can make and I need to consider the outcomes before jumping in. I had one trip once that I would have loved to live in forever at the time I was experiencing it, but in the back of my head I could still hear me saying that’s taking it too far. You have to be in the world you don’t have to be of the world. Lots of folk have trouble differentiating between those two. I mean I hate my job, and many aspects of my day to dull life, but I accept them as necessary for me to try and achieve what I want. I unfortunately dicked off in school got expelled, went to college got kicked out of canada, and realized now I was in the unenviable position of having to put in work. But I could just as easily be homeless and not worry about slaving for the man. So although I hate my job and everything it represents {repression,slavery,subservience,gratitude} I prefer it to the alternative. And I make it through the day telling myself that one day that smile will be mine.I have goals, they’re just on the backburner for a minute while life tries to beat me into submission, anyway thanks for the great convo its nice to see independant thought

  • chicharo

    yeah work sucks, but being homeless sucks more your right

  • http://www.slamonline.com Chinese Oppenheimer

    I’m chiefin on some dutch perp, reading these posts, enjoying it. ….
    HOWEVAH!
    Nbk and whosit stopped drinking at 20? The fucc wrong with yall!

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    I don’t like being irrational. Alcohol does that to me. I basically like to always be in control of my situation. And prepared for any situation that may result from it.

  • http://www.nba.com Shadojoker

    This will be the first locked thread on Slam!! Lmao at all the comments..some very good ones and some hilarious ones as well! But as a child of the 80′s.. the choice for me is DRUG FREE! Way to go Bogut!!

  • http://www.slamonline.com Chinese Oppenheimer

    Life circumstances are directly tied to the abuse of substances, be they food, alcohol, hard drugs or recreational ones. When you look to escape your day to day life because of ineffective coping skills, I don’t think that person needs to be judged. They need mental help as well as drug rehab…Now, when it comes to non-dependent, recreational use I’m perfectly fine with it. I share Lakeshow’s views.

  • http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/2011/10/nfl-players-advice-to-lebron-james-stick-to-basketball/ shutup

    quadstacks, pokeballs, greenlaterns, Mollies, fireballs, and xannies only 2 mill or better. LMAO I have a albino burm named baby Thizz; oh the good ol days. Always wanted to do shrooms, not really a big thing in NY. If imma do THC I gotta do edibles, my boy makes the sickest green peanut butter cups and brownies. His chocolate chip cookies are hella good to.

  • http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/2011/10/nfl-players-advice-to-lebron-james-stick-to-basketball/ shutup

    Come to think of it didn’t drop Thizz for the first time till I moved to Vegas. This is def the better conference.

  • retloc

    Sorry about that, somehow pasted what I was writing earlier, first time commenting on any forum,so please excuse lack of proper decorum. Definitely agree with nbk about being in control of self/situation, whereas a lot of peoples whole draw to drugs and alcohol is losing themselves. “Yeah I mean I may have done that but I was drunk so yaknow” don’t know how many times I’ve heard that. Like you cease to be yourself once you ingest certain things.

  • http://dillanleuyahoo.com Holy Baller

    How long does a typical DMT trip last?

  • Tempest

    I was at my local bar120 last year and we were hanging out with an ex AFL player. He asked my mate go back to his and rack lines. Apparently heaps of the players used to do coke on the regular

  • bigA

    Self-dicipline is most important. I started smoking weed at 11 never did anything else.
    I haven’t smoked in two weeks, defintely will next week.
    It helps me appreciate things even more but I don’t need it. I would sometimes roll the dice wether not to smoke.
    Allthough sometimes I would give myself 5/6 chances to smoke.

  • bigA

    Weed is terrible if you do it all the time, I think.

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    U think lol thanks for that

  • http://www.reverbnation.com/tray24 T-Ray

    Never knew Lake was bout it bout it lol but sh*t I use to get faded before a recording session but I never felt it had a hold on me and I was never addicted. That’s the only thing I’ve tried no more though I’m in law enforcement lol

  • LeBrOn 4 MvP!

    Yo ThiS Be cRaY assss, my hoodlims in the hood do it all the time, east compton, all day err day, real talk. I tHiNK A tUrNarOuND IN society is needed. brooklyn till i die, stand up. 34 area code all day. ErR DaAY

  • http://www.hoopsworld.com IamYOU

    I’m in aussie I don’t watch AFL! But bogut your a real ROLE MODEL MATE!

  • http://slamonline BossTerry

    Godda be honest @ LakeShow, At first I was thinking “Oh, gawd, somebody make him stop”, but you’ve since posted some pretty interesting stuff.. I’ve learned a few things, and agree with many of your points of view.. :) And, cosign Chich @ 7:07…

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  • Lz – Cphfinest3

    Most interesting SLAM debate for years. Thanks Lake, Retloc, NBK and everybody that weighed in. Just a couple of quick thoughts before leaving for my daily date with the man; I believe that drugs are a very personal thing, just like religion, one should not judge what others chose to put into their bodies (the body/mind is theirs let them do with it what they want, aftreall it is the only thing in this world one can truly own) whether it be weed, junk food, cigarettes or cocain. As some of you already mentioned it only becomes a problem when control is lost and abuse sets in. I had a full year smoking weed (actually Hash) on a daily basis, although I like the buzz it didn’t really do anything good for me, I just became lazy and apathic – so ever since then (11 years ago) I have smoked weed maybe a few times a year only when I knew that I had some days to chill. I snorted cocain maybe 25-30 times when younger and hitting town, had one bad experience other than that it just seemed like a good alcohol buzz + maybe 10% extra fun & confidence. Always got a cracking hangover the day after, so haven’t done it for like 5-6 years. Did MDMA two times, both great great experiences, with that said I’ll probably never do it again as it was simply too much fun and I have seen people lose their way and get a bit to happy about it. Never ate schrooms or dropped acid, had the offer of doing schrooms multiple times when younger and was enticed, but always changed my mind at the last minute. Somewhere deep down I guess alyways was kind of nervous about it for some reason, this stopped me from ever doing it – though I remain enticed to this day, nowadays I guess I am not presented with the opportunities to do em, and since I never go looking for these kind of substances trying it or not hasn’t really been an issue. On the contrary to most of you guys, alcohol is really my preferred drug, not that I drink heavily, often or until I can’t control myself. But I love to end the working week with some beers, a bottle of wine or some drinks. Don’t get hammered like I used too when I was younger, I’m 30 now, but absolutely love being drunk and smile, talk and dance with good friends and/or complete strangers. I guess it is in a more adult stage now, because I don’t drink until I fall down, vomit or loose track of what I’m saying or where I am. So I drink in a much lighter sense these days, maybe 1, 2 or 3 times a week, not overdoing it, sometimes just a couple of drinks sometimes a bit more, but never turning retarded like I used to hahaha.. But still I’m pretty sure I will always have a drink once or twice a week for the rest of my life, just really enjoy the effect. Keep up the good discussion, I’ll be leaving now but will be checking in at a later hour.

  • Connor

    Do all Americans just think they are the bee’s all and end all? In the last fifteen minutes I have seen one article from Marc Stein trashing Australia because we still watch ‘Big Brother’ even though the new series hasn’t started yet? And we dance naked with wallabies?! Where the hell did that come from? We aren’t all the dumb, druggie drunks you think we are, most of us actually have ‘normal’ lives with ‘normal’ jobs and do everything exactly the same as you Americans! I’m sick of everyone trashing Australia when they have heard stupid little rumours! Why don’t you all come to Australia and experience the culture, it’s better than you all think, and it’s probably a lot safer too!

  • http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/2011/10/nfl-players-advice-to-lebron-james-stick-to-basketball/ shutup

    A lil off subject I guess, but Australian’s are terrible tippers. Brits are pretty good when it comes to gratuity. Just be careful with that dr)g Sh!t in the clubs in vegas. We gotta saying out here come on vacation, leave on probation. Pills are prob your best bet, a xanny will make one beer last all night, plus at $14 a beer youll save money, seeing as a 2mg can be bought for as lil as $2-4.

  • http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/2011/10/nfl-players-advice-to-lebron-james-stick-to-basketball/ shutup

    Lemme clarify, almost all of the Australian’s I have met are the nice, just not big on tipping. Oh and yes you should tip your bouncer separate, if inclined to do so, they dont see anything off the bill.

  • Otis

    Tipping isn’t part of Australian culture the way it is in the US, so tourists in the States tend to forget that they’re meant to leave tips for drinks etc. Most Australians in the US will tip appropriately if you remind them politely that they’re supposed to do so.

  • Loaf

    I have tried the works, weed, shrooms, pills, MDMA, Coke and Ketamine never even consider herion or crack, thats the Junkie of all drugs… looking back, the craziest experience i ever had? had to be the Ketamine wow that stuff sent me into La La land, thought i was in a video game for about 5 hours…. smoked weed heavily for years, though that started getting to much, started to get paranoid and turn into a bit of recluse, you grow out these things. But to be honest, i wouldnt change any of my drug taking past, some realy quaility memories arised due to them and the certain situtations i found myself in whilst “under the influence”

  • pposse

    the funniest shroom experience i ever had was wen i went to ISU tovisit my cuz and we just finished eating the shrooms and started watching the rookie sophomore nba all star game..at the end of the game jason richardson bounced the ball off of boozers head and drained the shot at the buzzer..we swore we were tripping and that was not reality haha. Every other time the trip off of shrooms got me crazy scared or paranoid (bad trip). DMT or LSD is something i never came across, but after reading these posts and also from prior curiosities is something that i might have to look into

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Thanks for the kind words and non judgments from ya’ll. Always appreciated and gives me confidence in human kind in general.
    Holy Baller, 15 mins. Unless you take the orally active version, aka ayawaska. That is a 3+ hour trip. Virtually a slowed down version of smoking DMT.
    I was going to provide a little more information on natural DMT that I never got to yesterday:
    Natural DMT (endogenous/created organically) releases the most during your REM sleep pattern. Usually 3 am for most people. That’s why if you wake up at the time… sh*t is kinda weird lol.
    A DMT trip is a dream essentially, but an awake and fully lucid version of one. Most dreams one cannot describe or even remember details and specifics after a couple hours if not a few minutes. Taking DMT is similar in physicality, mentality, and chemically speaking to one dreaming.

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