Andrew Bogut Says He is Offered Drugs in Australian Nightclubs Regularly

Cards are also available in Washington. I have had one there as well as here in Cali.
nbk, as you know(if not from personal experience then from what others have told you), the psychedelic experience is truly indescribable. You have some of the best words and phrases for describing what one sees in your paragraph there, but it in know way embodies what you see or feel. One of the things allot of people experience afterwards is wishing that there were better and more accurate words to describe, but there just aren’t any.
The God that one sees is an elevated being. The feeling of the being is very divine. Your not afraid to be in the presence, but you do feel small, insignificant,and yet incredibly important at the same time. Shrooms are similar, while also being nothing alike, and I highly suggest one to try some psilocybin mushrooms before DMT because it should help your mind equip for what kind of an experience you are in for. Colors are also not in your ‘book of colors’ according to what your eyes and brain know. They are indescribable colors, shades, and hues. Essentially your opening your ‘third eye’. Most think of that being the pineal gland. Strangely the pineal gland has many parts to it that your eyes have, despite the fact it is obviously in the center of your brain, so you cannot “see” with it in the traditional sense. Which makes sense. Cause we aren’t in traditional land anymore. We are on a different plane and another dimension altogether at this point.

By the way nbk, 13 states have medical ganj, including alaska, hawaii, montana, washington,oregon,colorado,arizona,california, and several east coast states, I believe rhode island and vermont. So yeah its not just denver phoenix or cali, which is funny that two are cities ones a state.

The whole hallucinogenic experience also keys you in to humans innate telepathic ability. You find the wavelength that you exist within and realize others are on that same plane. You can look in someones eyes and live their entire life, without a word being exchanged. They really alter your perception on the whole togetherness/self-imposed separateness. Make you realize we are one big organism trying to survive. Then you see others trying to get one up by taking down someone else down, all without realizing that the whole organism has to thrive in order for us to ever rise above the chaos. Also a very good way to understand the raping of our souls that goes on everyday by these robots we call our government

Damn retloc you taking me be back in time with coracitin (sp?). I thought they took it off grocery store shelves over 8 years ago and heads are cooking it down now too!?!?!?

In Nov. Colorado, Washington, & Oregon will vote on ballot initiatives to legalize and tax marijuana use for adults. Just like they do now with alcohol and tobacco.

In Colorado its called the Regulate Marijuana Like Alcohol Act. In Oregon its called the Cannibus Tax Act.

it’s a trip how being open to things that most people dismiss or are afraid of like dmt actually have profound mentality changing effects

There is no way you can trip and not have it change your life. Like lakshow said, everything we do changes our lives, I didn’t go to the store and get smokes this morning, that inalterably changed the entirity of my life, never again will I face the circumstances I would have faced if I had decided to go to town. A good recommendation for anyone considering taking the leap into altered perception, your environment and associates are huge factors in determining how the experience is going to go. I satrted eating acid when I was 14,, last time I ate it I was 22, in those years I had two very disturbing trips just based on who I was with. I couldn’t shake the feeling of evil emanating from a casual acquaintance. The whole time I was waiting for him to freak out and bash someones brains in with a rock. I could feel the vibe before I started, but I was cool with everyone else, so I figured no biggie. Huge mistake.

Nothing in and of itself is necessarily good or bad, everything is merely a reflection of the value you place in it.

what you mean by “huge mistake” at the end of that comment? Did he inevitably bash someone’s head in or something?

i like to be philosophic at all times of all days. Sober or not. Actually, I don’t like to think deeply when I’m drunk, but I stopped drinking at like 20.

I mean huge mistake as in I went on a bad trip, he never did anything over the top, but for about eight hours I was in a self imposed hell. Hallicinogens are hugely dependant on your mood, environment etc. I allowed myself to quit focusing on the beauty and instead got real ugly real quick. Once my perception was tipped that way it was all downhill. Seeing my skin melt off, walking around as a gibbering pile of bones. Because as easy as it is to connect on shrooms, its just as easy to totally disconnect, which is a lonely desperate feeling when youre out of your head, the waves come and want to take you away. Started having feelings that I was never going to come back from it. Spent the last hour crying and just trying to shut my mind down. I think I ate shrooms one more time after that, like two years later, and even then the lingering feeling of that bad trips essence made me have not nearly as enjoyable experience as I was hoping for. At this point my grasp on reality is too thin to injest acid or anything of that nature. You don’t want those doors swinging wide

Funny you say that nbk; with the exception of the first 6 months after I turned 21, I’d say I drank much more before 21 than after. So much for early exposure dictating future consumption, huh…

Liking to get high and getting high are two entirely different things. I guess I believe there is a subsection in our society that does drugs to “get high” or to have “fun,”from personal experience and based on the world I know the majority are mostly trying to chase away their thoughts. You just want to alter your reality so bad that you fall into drug use. I hold firm to the belief that the majority of drug users are classic case selfloathers, and doing the drugs only fuels their self hatred. But, I also view people in general to be predisposed to this type of behavior. People are sad disconnected beings just looking for meaning.

No offense Allen. Truly mean that. BUT…
That’s one of the problems with adults views on “drugs.” You said it perfectly for a person with your perception: “Lots of cats apparently like to get high.”
Well yes, that is one way of saying it, but it feels as if there is allot of negative notions that go in with that phrase.
Did you not read any part of the conversation? Does DMT sound like a drug for people that like to “get high”? I told everyone it was the opposite. And that’s the truth. It would scare the living buhjebuss out of people who just “like to get high.”
This is a subject where I am vastly versed unlike basketball pre-1985. So if your interested in taking part in a conversation that might HELP everyone who reads this post, then I am as the kids say, down. Or if you want to just chalk up “drugs”(all in one generalization) to “people like getting high” then… you do you man.

truth:
“I mean for you to understand yourself you need to understand your motivations and the motivations of the world around you. Everyone needs a healthy dose of self-introspection. If you remain ignorant to the world at large how can you expect to ever achieve happiness or fulfillment. To know and understand oneself is a necessary step in participating in the “real world” instead of remaining a casual spectator.”
nbk,
the possibility of having a bad trip is also why i haven’t tried anything like that. i’ll continue to do research and listen to people’s experiences in the mean time

Co-Sign nbk’s 6:43 completely.

Anything done to the point of abuse is bad. Be it drugs, sex eating, running,etc. Everything is everything. You place the value in actions. Someone that is 300 pounds is just as miserable with their existence as any junkie. Some people don’t understand how to achieve balance. And there is a huge difference between exploring your consciousness and numbing yourself out of reality. Everybody does everything for their own reasons. Unfortunately there is a great number of people who have given up the dream of gaining knowledge and bettering themselves, and instead just view every day as something they have to get through. To quote isaac brock “im trying to drink away the part of the day I cannot sleep away” which sums up a lot of addicts perfectly. But there is definitely those out there that use “drugs”, as everyone loves to call them, to gain a better understanding of themselves society in general. Most people feel so out of place at some point, and search for meaning anyway possible.that doesn’t make them bad people. Some people lose themselves and become slaves to the drugs they sought to try and make their lives easier to handle. Doesn’t make them bad, just weak

To me, acid was purely in my head, whereas mushrooms took over my entire existence. I would eat acid again before mushrooms, but only if I got it from a trusted source. At this point in my life I couldn’t handle either, but I always felt like I was more clearheaded on acid. But like I say I ate acid for the first time at 13 or 14, so at that point I had no concept of what I was getting into. I did both heavily from 14 to 19 and then had about a two year gap. The experience was entirely different when I better understood the actual process that was taking place. Most all drugs merely stimulate our mind to release chemicals within it. Its already there. That’s why addicts have such a hard time kicking. Meth or coke or whatever triggers the neurons and your brain gets told to send dopamine, these receptors get left open while you’re on the drugs. Dopamine is needed to create happiness, so by abusing drugs for x amount of time you use your bodies natural supply of dopamine for a longer period of time. So when you try to quit there is no dopamine available for while, so you can’t create your own happiness, so you go back to drugs to kickstart production. One week on meth uses two or three weeks of happiness. Vicious cycle

i don’t want to say i smoke weed to escape reality ,i use it for movie and video game enhancement

Addicts are only lost children. They didn’t dream of being junkies, they made bad decisions followed by bad decisions, I’ve lost several friends to painkillers and to meth. I’ve also seen people get clean and become respectable members of society. If you can’t empathize you can at least sympathize. One of my best friends has been on meth off and on for 12 plus years. He’s one of the most stand up people I know, but he struggles with purpose and self worth. The only difference between a junkie and a fat person is substance of choice. Cast not the first stone unless you yourself are without fault. We’re all flawed beings.

Lake, your brain has cannabanoid receptors. No methamphetamine receptors. The chemical effects on your brain are similar in its most simple form, but invariably different

Definitely seen waking life, movies a trip, and to understand it is to understand that our reality is most definitely dependant on our perception. Dreams are another universe entirely, to fully grasp that everything going on in your head is just as real as anything you see on tv or outside can be overwhelming to some. And I have done most any drug out there, but I haven’t devoted my life to any of them, because to me its weak to allow something to have control over your life. But that’s not to say that I didn’t gain something from the experience. The dope addict doesn’t get high, he just tries to chase away the comedown. Nicotine caffeine and alcohol are some of the most abused substances in the world, and kill countless people everyday, and yet I can go cop a pack of smokes some beers and a coffee anytime. The world we live in shapes our perception, the key is to realize whatever information you are taking in is from a biased source. One way or another, its your responsibility to discern what those biases are and align yourself accordingly

Yeah lake if I could go back I would have definitely not done, well basically everything I did from ages 13-19, but that’s life. A lot of times I do feel like it made me a lot closer to the edge than I resided before, but at this point its hard to actually remember what my perception of the world was when I was that age. Im definitley more bi-polar because of using drugs at a young age. But yeah id definitely back you on the 18 plus, and honestly id probly say 20 plus, because even at 18 your mind isn’t done developing.

And as someone who smokes I can’t understand how everybody else doesn’t view it as suicide. I mean its a long slow ride, but its suicide. The power of perception is a beast. I mean there’s no way I could get down with an overt suicide, but that slow creeping making bad decisions for years, that’s how I roll. And to be fair, alcohol and tobacco aren’t all bad either. Im the decider on whether there is a place in my life for anything. Don’t do the booze thing because violence soon follows. Its not healthy to see yourself in monster mode, and as I’ve grown getting drunk has become not worth the effort. Losing control is not an enticing prospect, I don’t need any excuses for my behavior. And none exist. Substances merely magnify things within us