Dwyane Wade: ‘I Don’t Know If LeBron Has the Ability to Surpass Michael Jordan’

@kobe.. No, Baylor was a forward, and with Oscar Robertson.. well that’s up for debate, but he was mainly the point guard on his teams. (dude averaged 12 assists for a couple seasons I think) If you wanna go there with him being a 2, then replace him with West, but I could make a decent argument that West was better than Oscar so….

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To be on par with j-dog, in golf terms, lebron has to birdie the next 14 holes..lmao.
That’s how he’ll become the greatest of all time.
&i like your comments hursty.

You know when the LeBron/MJ and Kobe/MJ debates will be the most fun to have? After they’re both done playing. Kobe may have two or three more runs in him. LeBron has some time. Let’s see how many rings he has, look at the stats, the individual awards, how long he stays the unquestioned best player in basketball, etc. That can only be done when he’s finished playing. We can talk all day about what LeBron might do or could do, but I’d rather wait and see what he actually does.

At the time they joined forces with their superstar teammates, Wade was lightyears better than Pippen. It’s amazing to think that Pippen developped into a top 50 player under Jordan. Unlike Wade, who established himself long before he teamed up with Lebron. For that fact alone i would say Wade was the better player, but Scotties career is far more impressive

Guys plz. He’s more magic than michael. And that’s not even said in a bad way in this context. They both had similar early career struggles(remember ‘tragic’ magic? Comparable to bron against dallas in 11) even tho magic carried his team to a chip as a rook. He didn’t exactly have a jordanesque killer instinct all the time. A great nba body (6’8) lebron has got, but has as good court vision as a point guard. Remind u of anyone? His oncourt demeanor and skills translates to that of magic to me. Whereas kobe will be the closest to jordan we’ve ever seen(in all the good and bad ways) LeBron still has the ability to surpass kobe in the all time rank tho. Im not saying that just cuz bron is more magic and kobe is more jordan that lebron has to automatically be a peg below him in the all time rankings, the way magic is to jordan. Their career is going to be telling of that.

I hear you nbk. The team defenses of this era are more developed and systematic. There is a reason the illegal defense rules and the shot clock was put in place. The league didn’t want it to become a “Jump shot league” and therefore made more freedom for the offense. Team defenses have gotten stronger. This is due to many reasons, with coaching being obvisously enhanced from back in the day, and coaching clinics being held in every state pretty much every week to develop players on their defense etc.

Hey, I just passed along the argument. I was on the other side of the debate arguing that Kobe’s shooting percentage is what it is because Kobe likes taking difficult shots to show how good he is. But, the argument was with the increased emphasis on defensive scheming and different defensive rules of today, Jordan would have struggled to shoot over 50 percent four or five times in his career like he did.
I don’t know if this is true, but that was the argument. Like I said, I think Kobe had an added advantage of playing with Shaq, which should make your shooting percentage go up, but I respected the argument.

All in all what im trying to say is: The LeBron -Jordan comparisons need to stop. LeBrons not Jordan in almost any way.

lebron lost to dallas with d wade and chris bosh as his co stars. This after he proclaimed 8 rings..forget about the loss against the spurs when he was 22. Lebron was in his prime against Dallas and lost, something Jordan NEVER did (besides the year he came back)…but if you guys want to hold that against the great one then note the next full year back MJ went 72-10..the Heat weren’t even the #1 seed in the east this past year. There is no comparison. There is Jordan and then there is everyone else.

Chicago people are fanatics for real.

The biggest reason the Jordan/LeBron discussion can take place is because I think it’s safe to say that overall, LeBron may have a better career than Kobe. Everyone talked about Jordan and Kobe before LeBron became the best player in the league. Now he’s there. So if LeBron is going to be more accomplished than Kobe, the only other guy people can compare him to is Jordan because he scores more than Magic yet has a lot of the passing ability that Magic had. That’s why people don’t have the LeBron/Magic conversation.

So……even if LeBron 3peats ( which I don’t think he will but let’s say he does ) and then repeats to get 6 titles, gets 2-3 more MVPs and plays at his usual pace, he’s worse than Jordan?? Seriously, I get that Jordan was great and all but I don’t get why failing once is a knock on a player if he can come back and win the same number of times. So, Durant is automatically not gonna be better than MJ when he wins 6 titles because he lost to LBJ and the Heat in the Finals?!

allenp we are ranked the best sports fans in the world…according to espn

@ByAnyMeansNecessary…….Kobe’s gonna come back strong next season and can win the title next season. Besides, LBJ, despite the position difference, has a team similar to Jordan’s Bulls ( 2nd option perimeter player, solid supporting cast and bench, decent scoring PF ) than Shaq-Kobe and Kobe’s Lakers ( Post player 2nd option/1A option, passable to non-existent bench and defensive oriented perimeter players with Metta and Fox back in the day ). Makes the comparisons easier. Besides, we’ve dealt with Kobe-MJ comparisons for a decade already. We’ll get back to it soon though.

ppose………ESPN didn’t consider soccer fans I hope. Because football fans just destroy any competition worse than the Dream Team did it back in ’92 as far as rabid fan support goes.

@whitemarkprice Your focus should be less on the Shock Exchange and more on the gems I’m droppin’ on here. MJ is 1A and Bias 1B. Book it.

Wade doesn’t look like he can remain healthy enough to remain on the floor enough to mold the team around him like LBJ can. Provided LBJ doesn’t suffer an injury setback ( and I hope he doesn’t ), I don’t see how Wade can wrest away the control from LBJ, esp. since Wade’s athleticism is gonna start falling and he needs to depend on that wacky jumper more. BTW, just thinking, wouldn’t the OKC team Heat beat be at the very least on par with the opponents MJ beat in the Finals??? Also, would they be better than the ’08 Celts since they’d play right into teh C’s strategy?

@ mask, I don’t think it’s fair to compare skittles and startburst this early in starburst’s career . . .

For all the talk about who had what help, Mike definitely had better coaching and that helps a lot. Mike was coached by Dean Smith, Doug Collins and Phil (lord of the rings) Jackson. Lebron was coached by his homeboy’s father, Paul Silas (one of the worst coaches ever), Mike Brown and Erik Spoelstra.

Just something to think about, Lebron’s learning curve is a little steeper.

and forget the hardware, will lebron even get 20plus games of 50 points in his life? How about a 60 pt explosion here and there? Those are the things that make Jordan the greatest when coupled with his championship successes. He did as much winning as one human could possibly do, PLUS he has done all of the individual things that you can do…someone already said it here..but Lebron needs to birdie the next 14 holes!

@da-meet-hook just out of curiousity what would you rather have? A 50 point explosion or a triple double?

My personal preference would be to drop 50. Wilts 50 ppg and 20 rebs is more memorable to me. I’m not taking anything away from Oscar Robertson, cause a triple double is ridiculous too. What is funny tho, is that I think both of those guys thought/still think that they are the better player than MJ. Like, legitametely think they are the better player.

ALD Posted: Aug.24 at 9:57 am
this is off topic but does anyone miss playing college basketball games?

^ i do…wish they make anotha ‘Coach K’ member when Magic Johnson use to break tha glass w MSU lol

Bron will never be Jordan. Lets see if Bron can get to Kobe success first. Nobody will ever be MJ, but there is someone close to him and looking for more rings.

Hey, keepin it on topic, who’s better next year, AK-47, or Nic Batum??