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Thursday, August 16th, 2012 at 11:03 am  |  109 responses

Jay-Z Reportedly Convinced the NBA to Allow the Nets’ Black-and-White Color Scheme


There’s an interesting feature in today’s NY Times about Jay-Z’s influence over the Brooklyn Nets (you should probably go check out the whole thing), but one piece of information that stood out was that the NBA, according to the writer’s sources, wasn’t going to approve of the Brooklyn Nets’ new black-and-white jerseys—until Hov stepped up and changed their minds. More details: “Now, with the long-delayed Barclays Center arena nearing opening night in September and the Nets bidding in earnest for Brooklyn’s loyalties, Jay-Z will perform eight sold-out shows to kick things off. But away from center stage he has put his mark on almost every facet of the enterprise, his partners say. He helped design the team logos and choose the team’s stark black-and-white color scheme, and personally appealed to National Basketball Association officials to drop their objections to it (the N.B.A., according to a person with knowledge of the discussion, thought that African-American athletes did not look good on TV in black, an assertion that a league spokesman adamantly denied). He counseled arena executives on what kind of music to play during games. (‘Less Jersey,’ he urged, pushing niche artists like Santigold over old favorites like Bon Jovi.) He even coached them on how to screen patrons for weapons without appearing too heavy-handed. (‘Be mindful,’ he advised oracularly, ‘and be sensitive.’) In the two and a half years since groundbreaking, as taxi-roof advertisements promised ‘All access to Jay-Z,’ and sponsorship salespeople trumpeted how “hip and cool” he and his wife, Beyoncé, would make the arena, he and the Nets have effectively written a new playbook for how to deploy a strategic celebrity investor.”

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  • Glenn

    Oracularly? Really?

  • wixurss

    I like what he did with NBA2k13 and this rap/rock festival coming up so i’m sure the Nets will be smartly run too.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Man, when you read that article, Jay Z is about his money. He invested $1 million in dough, added some “sweat equity” and not he’s leveraging that to promote all the other businesses he’s involved in which only increases his value to them. As many problems as I have with excess wealth, I do respect how well he learned the game despite having none of the early advantages.

  • wixurss

    I never knew the NBA was so anti-black jersey. What about the Spurs?? And isn’t Iverson in the black jersey one of the coolest jerseys ever?

  • LA Huey

    “As many problems as I have with excess wealth, I do respect how well he learned the game despite having none of the early advantages.” co-sign

  • fruizm

    I dont have any problems with excess wealth…but I also co-sign!

  • CubicleWorker

    But if it’s a white man who comes from nothing and creates a mega-fortune and say.. buys an NBA franchise and uses that to promote his other businesses you have a problem with that right?

  • http://www.nba.com/knicks danpowers

    lol “thought that African-American athletes did not look good on TV in black”

  • LA Huey

    Cubicle, I have a problem if Jay-Z is crying about how much he’s losing with his NBA team when it’s clear he’s been able to use his very slim ownership in the team and arena (.3% of Barclays Arena and .06% of the Nets) to boost his profits in his other ventures.

  • LA Huey

    wixurrs, aside from the soundtrack have they revealed where his fingerprints are on the game?

  • Matisse

    I have to hand it to Jay-Z the man has a great talent for negotiation. From convince the slippery Charles Barkely to join 2k and now this? The man has the gift of gab.

  • Unclelukenc

    African-American athletes? How many people in the NBA are African? You mean black dudes? In all honesty, and I played ball for a long time (so you know I met some dudes from Senegal, ha), I have only met probably 10 people in my life who have ever BEEN to Africa, half of them are white and the others half are from there. I can honestly say that I have never met a black guy that was born in America that has ever even been to Africa.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Cubicle Owner
    What are you talking about? That’s asinine. When have I expressed that sentiment? For someone who claims to be unconcerned with race, you sure do interject it into a lot of your comments buddy.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Unclelukenc
    You need to expand your circle of black people.

  • LA Huey

    Unclelukenc has no idea what he’s talking about.

  • Ldub

    Uncleluke….please tell me youre joking with your comment. If you really think any executive is dumb enough to say “black dudes” in an organization youre completely crazy, high or in the words of zack galifianakis..”a ruhtard”! I shouldnt have to explain that “African-American” is the politically correct term, that also goes hand in glove with caucasian which defines your “white dudes”.

  • Shecky Shabazz

    Flexing that illuminati muscle huh jay?

  • http://thahiphopcorner.com Kevin

    Im still honestly trying to figure out what the hell Unclelukenc is talking about. You need more black friends bruh

  • Unclelukenc

    You guys are a politician’s dream! I love it. So sensitive, which is what is wrong with much of the world today. Everybody is so offended at everything. God forbid somebody say “black” to describe a black person. Or “white” to describe a white person. Or “gay” to describe a gay person. Older heads (Muhammad Ali, George Carlin, Redd Foxx, Pryor, etc.) got it. Its all a joke that small-minded people use to fuss and whine over. We are only here for a short time, and you are gonna get offended cause somebody says “black” to describe black people when every other word out of most black peoples’ mouths is a word that their ancestors’ fought for years (like, centuries) to disassociate themselves from? Good job. What happened to all of the great black inventors, scientists, engineers, social leaders? Gone. All that fighting so you could sag your pants, buy spinning rims and dismiss college as a negative thing on the path to some loot? Jokes on you. And most of us. Same goes for white people, asian, hispanic, etc. It’s just a smokescreen. Like Obama and Bush and Romney and Clinton. Educate yourself. Stop bickering over something that your “owners” (Bildebergs, Rothschilds, Goldman Sachs, etc.), promote to keep you down. There is nobody as blind as he who just won’t see.

  • http://www.soundcloud.com/tray-5 T-Ray

    As the great Paul Mooney once said when it’s all said and done niggas…niggas are everywhere. Just kidding but Uncleluke you need to expand your circle buddy. Also why do some people have a problem when black people born in America don’t visit Africa? We weren’t born there so I personally don’t feel the obligation to do so.

  • http://thahiphopcorner.com Kevin

    Um…………..ok

  • http://www.slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    It is true, colored folk look mighty horrid in black cloothes.

  • http://www.soundcloud.com/tray-5 T-Ray

    Yes because all black people sag, dismiss higher education, or live outside of there means? That sounds reasonable.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    It’s funny that whenever a person of color (especially blacks) becomes wealthy everyone thinks the Illuminati or some secret society was involved in one way or another but whenever a caucasian becomes wealthy it’s through hard work and determination.

  • Ldub

    If you are going to use certain words to describe an entire race, then you should really consider the feelings (sensitive or not) for “some” of those people. Some people dont give a damn whether you say white, black, gay, bi, orange, purple, fat or small. But some do. Dont be so ignorant that you cant actually understand that not every black/african american person wishes to be known as black or african american. You dont know what someone went through as to why they have such a “sensitive” outlook on certain aspects of life. And who are you to judge that? Right, wrong or indifferent, people have the right to have their own feelings/opinions on any topic. In the same breathe, we have to respect those feelings and opinions for many reasons, but the most important being, its that persons right to choose how they would like to be “announced” (for lack of better terms). Not every David wants to be called Dave! So feel free, to educate your damn self.

  • Ldub

    Luke u sound extremely racist kid! Sure u feel like ur sharing some interesting points but ur not. Truth be told, many PEOPLE not just black people can’t afford college. So they do what they can to make ends meet. You seem to be focused on the “jay-z” model to wrap ur thoughts around what a successful black person must do to gain wealth. On the contrary there are many PEOPLE that didn’t attent college simply because they couldn’t afford it. And no matter your response, not everyone qualifies for. Grants or loans. Don’t put the lack of education on an entire race because every race has its highs and lows. And its not based on “opportunity” because in all honesty, no kid from the projects (black or white) will be president…regardless of their “education”!!

  • http://www.slamonline.com Chinese Oppenheimer

    Uncleluke, Newflash: the world is still spinning despite your meaningless objections about what people should and should not call themselves. No one cares about your feelings on their fashion. No one cares if your circle is so small that you’ve never met a black man who travelled. That says more about you than anything. I don’t even care to argue your silly points because I honestly don’t care how you feel or why you feel that way. The bottom line is that with all you’ve typed, all you’ve managed to do is get clowned by the reality that your just another dude with an opinion valued only by himself.

  • http://thahiphopcorner.com Kevin

    Yeah and stop hating and get money……………..LMAO

  • http://www.nba.com/knicks danpowers

    wouldve been funnier if they wouldve said “brothers is lookin whack in black” lol

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    Uncleluke just came on here and dropped knowledge to a bunch of people who don’t want to listen. He won guys. You all just proved his point. And this is not JTaylor21 I don’t know why his name pops up on my screen even when I erase it it still shows up as that. *Just in case it happens* Sorry JTaylor21, not sure how to fix it. Computer been acting funny lately

  • http://www.slamonline.com Chinese Oppenheimer

    BTW, anyone who argues against a person’s objections to the use of slang terms to describe their race, ethnicity, gender, or sexual orientation is too stupid to converse with. There are a lot of problems in this world, but if you think “sensitivity” is one of them then you need to be slapped.

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    @Ldub -saying things like “kid” and “u” and “ur” , especially after throwing around the most ignorant of all terms, racist, is exactly what dude was talking about. I doubt luke feels that way about every single person he/she meets (I am assuming he since the name is “Uncle” luke), but overall you played right into his hands. My old roommate was from Ghana, and he used to get all fired up at the term African-American when it was just used to describe an American black person.

  • http://Roosterteeth.com Caboose

    I hate when arguments on SLAM dissolve into soap box yelling about race. Does anybody really think they’ll change anyone’s mind over the Internet on a basketball site? On another note, I’m kinda surprised how much pull Jay-Z has with the Nets despite a very small ownership percentage. Props to that.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Chinese Oppenheimer

    Racist is an ignorant term, but not a racial slurs. Says the dude who can’t even clear his cache. And who cares what your roommate feels? He knows no more about American history than Americans do about Ghanian history. Africans aren’t the gate keepers of politically correct ethnic labels. No group is. You can’t tell people what they should and shouldn’t call themselves, nor can you tell them how to feel about any particular labels. Get over it.

  • http://bulls.com airs

    So…jay-z huh? What a RIOT

  • Allenp

    Be insensitive there is going on a rant about the problems of black people on a basketball website

  • White guy

    Ldub:
    Trust me, you should feel very comfortable, and not politically incorrect to refer to a white person as a “white person”. On a few occasions someone has used the word caucasion in my presence, clearly meaning well & just hoping not to offened. But “white person” or “white guy” is just fine and definetly preferred. Now “white-boy”, well that’s another story(lol). Enjoy your day

    Peace

  • http://www.slamonline.com Redd

    @cubicle but white folks haven’t struggled as black folks have, matter fact throughout history whites have been the predominate oppressors. Don’t start that junk dude, heck this year in itself has seen an alarming, shocking, and appalling rise in oppression. The other day, a cop ran over a little girl and shot her father when he came at him. He was black, cop was white. Get a grip, racism ain’t dead it’s rising. Mosques have been shot up at alarming rates also all over the USA.

  • Ldub

    JT….had I been on my computer…you would have seen the you, your and you’re. Trust that I understand the difference. But while at work, its much easier to post in a text style format. But I get what “you’re” saying! I’m not upset with what was said or how it was said. I really could care less what people call me, because I know what and who I am. But not everyone has the same mindset that I do. So being sensitive to others should be something we all strive to do.

  • http://Slamonline.com Black Mamba

    WTF. Stern is losing it. Wow. This is a fu*king joke

  • O

    Racism will never die, plain and simple. “Arabs” are terrorists, “mexican” immigrants (all Latinos are Mexicans to Republicans and racists) are stealing all the jobs in the US, “African-Americans” are responsible for all the crimes in every neighborhood, Jeremy Lin can’t play basketball – things will never change. Imagine how much worse things would get should a Romney/Ryan team take office next year…

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Redd
    The way I saw the story, the girl darted out into traffic, got hit, and then the cop was trying to save her. The father came out of a restaurant, was irate, started wailing on the cop, and then got shot. Don’t know what happened, but if that is what happened, then it changes the narrative.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Wayno

    *yawn*…tell me when the ignorant bullsh*t is done for the day…

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    O, why would Romney/Ryan or whoever ticket, change anything race wise in America?
    Has racism ceased or decreased since Obama took office?
    I don’t see the connection between who is president and how racist people choose to be.
    .
    Please everyone, do me this one favor, it’s a small one. Vote for anyone other than the main two tickets.
    I’m kidding it’s not for me. It’s for you. Time for some real “change”.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Wayno

    Yeah, the president (no matter which ticket you vote) isn’t going to change that ish…It goes way too deep.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Redd

    @Allenp really? Excuse my ignorance, I’ll research into it. But it definitely does, but doesn’t erase the other heinous acts of ignorance though.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    I think presidents have the power to change things as far as racism and discrimination on a macro level. They can set policies, enforce existing rules and set good examples.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Redd

    Like stop dropping bombs on innocents, help a modern genocide in Burma, stop the s**t in Palestine, etc. just an idea, I’m not a fan of neither elects.

  • spurs4life

    He convince Charles Barkley to be apart of the NBA 2k13 92 “Dream Team”. So I knew this was a piece of cake compare to this situation.

  • O

    My bad Lakeshow, I shouldve been a little clearer about what I said. Romney isnt too fond of Latinos. It would be bad for us should he be elected. Thats what I meant.

  • LA Huey

    FYI: It’s actually “could NOT care less”

  • fizzlepr1ce

    While we’re on the subject, The NBA should apply affirmative action to their NBA rosters. If major companies, colleges, and government agencies must meet racial quotas, why can’t the NBA mandate there be three non-black players be on every roster?

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    O, maybe it would be “bad” in your eyes, but I guarantee that whoever is elected isn’t going to put a fence up along the boarder and start rounding up latino’s to send them back to their native land.
    Both tickets are widely flawed because of the business that goes into them.
    Both parties(D/R) are what the government wants you to elect. That’s why we have to get in outsider in.
    The government can’t vet itself from the top when they get their guy in every year.
    This is all for naught because, no one wants to vote for the a party that won’t win… but what’s the point in “winning”, if in reality we all lose?
    Please everyone vote outside of who MSNBC, and FOX news tell you to vote for.

  • http://nba.com GP23

    The best government is no government at all.

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Not saying that’s what you implied, but laws are not usually put in place by a president to hamper legal citizens of a particular race.
    I can’t think of a piece of legislation that a president has put through that would fit that category. Help me if you know of something.

  • ALD

    lol @ the story and the comments. Why so serious people, Just go to Africa and experience the great continent. Thats all uncleluke was trying to say. Don’t get all teary eyed.

  • ALD

    Ron Paul….

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    ^Yeah because that worked so well throughout human history.
    I swear, most of y’all have no idea what life was like for ancient people. I’m not an expert, but I have some knowledge. And man, we in America and most Western countries have it EASY. Demanding change makes sense, but let’s have some perspective here.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Redd

    No government? How is that good? Regulating is important, without regulations society would be messed up. I’m all for laws, but I’m against mistreatment. I blame capitalism for our worries.

  • MtotheS

    Guys the jerseys are black and white… Let’s bring it together.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Redd

    Co sign Allen, some folks get wild. “if we had no money things would be better”, wonder if people hear how dumb they sound after they speak.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Chinese Oppenheimer

    If you thought he was only saying Africa is a great place go then his entire comment went over your head.

  • EJ

    Yea, anarchy would totally work dude.

  • http://nba.com GP23

    Let’s keep the politics outta this anyway. It’s a Basketball website. So, anyone think the Nets will really go far in the Playoffs this year, or even make the Payoffs? I reckon the Nets will finish with the second or third seed in the East…

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    This comment section is a train wreck.

  • http://www.soundcloud.com/tray-5 T-Ray

    GP23
    If anything I say they are a 5 seed. I think it’s MIA,BOS,IND,NYK, and BK.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Lakeshow
    Well presidents don’t make laws. But, you could easily argue that the crack cocaine sentencing laws passed by Congress(at the urging of certain black people) and supported by the president targeted a particular group.
    Not to mention laws that previously segregated federal facilities and the military.
    So yes, there is a precedent.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    The story isn’t about basketball. It’s a about a celebrity and how he used basketball to make even more money.
    Everything is fair game.

  • http://www.slamonline.com nbk Troll

    99 problems but nbk aint one!

  • http://www.slamonline.com Redd

    Gets a bit old to continuously argue about Lebron-Kobe-Jordan, Rose not being the best PG, Knicks being all talk, etc. don’t you guys?

  • http://www.slamonline.com Chinese Oppenheimer

    Not at all. I love arguing about how CP is the best pg in the world, how Kobe is a notch or three below MJ, and that Lebron has the potential but will likely never be the GOAT.

  • Jose

    it wont matter what color the jersey is if you see the red and yellow mcdonalds arch standing out

  • http://www.slamonline.com Redd

    Even though Rose has destroyed cp3 and has a mvp. I hear u Oppenheimer.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Redd

    Even though Rose has destroyed cp3 and has a mvp. I hear u Oppenheimer.

  • LA Huey

    I’m a big fan of Ratatat. We’re all over the place in this thread. I love it.

  • Salty

    It’s funny that everyone is all over that uncleluc guy. Isn’t he just pointing out that the title African American is dated and technically inaccurate? If you’re talking about a white guy, born and raised in America, with Irish ancestry, you wouldn’t tell everyone he is an Irish American, you’d just say he is an American. Or you’d call him white. To call someone African American, it makes it sound like they are recently removed from Africa, now living in America. They are just Americans. Black Americans.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Fizzlewhatever has an interesting point. Why isn’t there mandatory affirmative action in the nba? …
    A scal on every team

  • http://cnbc.com JTaylor21

    The only people that deserve to be called “americans” are the Natives.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    probably…..even though they also came from Asia long before that/

  • Salty

    JTaylor: Let’s not be silly now.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    People use the term Irish American, Italian American and German American all the time for their little social groups. Google search it.
    It’s not just black folks at all, but things bother people more when black people do it. Fact of life.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Chinese Oppenheimer

    I’m from the East Coast. Most people here of Italian or Irish decent refer to themselves as Irish American or Italian American. That’s their right. Black people’s ancestry originated in Africa. To identify simply as American is a matter of nationality, which is seperate from ethnic identity. Unclewhatshisface was being condescending, and he was stereotyping with obvious disdain for black Americans. I’m not advocating people identify one way or the other. I really don’t care. I just can’t stand idiots who think it’s their job to tell someone else how to identify.

  • http://www.slamonline.com nbk Troll

    99 problems and greg oden aint one

  • http://mail.google.com Jao

    As an African I have also see the term “African American” outdated. Many black Americans have been in America as long as white Americans. And I don’t hear people referring to whites as European Americans. So it is silly and people should wake up to a new reality. As a previous commenter mentioned, “people are way to sensitive”.

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    I get up at 5:30 am for this…..?

  • LA Huey

    In somewhat related news, Stephen Jackson says we can keep our eyes peeled for a track with Kevin Durant on the track. NBA’s offseason is the best out there

  • http://slamonline.com LakeShow

    Yes^

  • CubicleWorker

    So I just came back in the thread…. does anybody even know what they’re arguing about anymore?

  • http://www.slamonline.com Chinese Oppenheimer

    F this website’s moderators. Forreal.

  • CubicleWorker

    To sum it up; 1) Not all “black” people like to be called “african american”, I tried being polite and referred to someone as African American and he was highly offended as he was Jamaican. 2) Racism will always exist but it’s not unilateral by any stretch of the imagination. 3) Generalizations are always ignorant, whether it be (from this thread alone) ” white folks haven’t struggled as black folks have” or that all black people “sag their pants, buy spinning rims and dismiss college as a negative thing”. 4) The political system will 100% ALWAYS be corrupt. If you can align with one politicians ideologies more than the others then that’s your best vote. Otherwise run for your office yourself.

    Diplomatic enough of a response?

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    Who cares about Jay Z, Its sad a rapper has this much influence over America. What is America coming too, where rappers get more respect than teachers, from the Oden thread. WOW

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-theBear

    co-sign JT 4:43.
    CubicleWorker that was a turrible comment. The day racism isn’t unilateral is the day black/brown people own even 13% of the banks and major corporations in the United States (and the world), and when most of the resources of the world go to Asia and Africa, where most of the world’s population resides, instead of the West. Then you can preach about racism not being unilateral.

  • http://slamonline.com Chubachuchi

    @Nbk if that’s the argument then all people should be called African.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-theBear

    co-sign JT 4:43.
    @ CubicleWorker: How is racism not unilateral? Racism has everything to do with power and privilege. When brown/black people own even 13% of the major banks and corporations in the US then you can preach about racism not being unilateral, and that all shades are equal in their racism. Until then… nope.
    But I like that you tell us to be complacent with the electoral system. Remind me again which color benefits from the electoral system?

  • http://Slamonline.com nbk

    Blah blah blah it’s the same argument and I didn’t say it as an argument anyway was just pointing out by the logic that Settlers at any period are not from somewhere just because they were there longer. I get the point and don’t actually claim Native Americans didn’t have right to the land or anything like that, just being a smart ass basically.

  • Allenp

    So you really don’t believe black people in America have suffered more as a group than white people? I thought that was an accepted fact like dinosaurs.

  • http://gmail.com z

    Chinese Oppenheimer, probably the most underrated regular on here. From the hilarious and offensive asian accent (assuming that WAS you) to your comments above you’re one of my favs. Teddy the Bear astonished me with how quickly he came in dropping some cold f**kin knowledge. Gotta say that people gotta look at the whole system of government and corporate power’s role in it throughout every level of government (often down to the local,sadly). They gotta look at the prez’s power in comparison to congress’s at this point. Reconsideration of whether voting is all it’s going to take to make this country a place that’s, above all else sustainable in relation to the environment (because guess what, theres only one earth!) AND fair to a more broad swathe of its citizens is needed. A revaluation of all values treasured up till now is desperately called for because those are the values that have led to all the strife and disharmony. True we have VERY much to thank our lucky stars for (t least i do), but i strongly believe we can still improve our socioeco

  • http://gmail.com z

    Chinese Oppenheimer, probably the most underrated regular on here. From the hilarious and offensive asian accent (assuming that WAS you) to your comments above you’re one of my favs. Teddy the Bear astonished me with how quickly he came in dropping some cold f**kin knowledge. Gotta say that people gotta look at the whole system of government and corporate power’s role in it throughout every level of government (often down to the local,sadly). They gotta look at the prez’s power in comparison to congress’s at this point. Reconsideration of whether voting is all it’s going to take to make this country a place that’s, above all else sustainable in relation to the environment (because guess what, theres only one earth!) AND fair to a more broad swathe of its citizens is needed. A revaluation of all values treasured up till now is desperately called for because those are the values that have led to all the strife and disharmony. True we have VERY much to thank our lucky stars for (t least i do), but i strongly believe we can still improve our socioeconomic relations to ourselves and the world.

  • http://gmail.com z

    Chinese Oppenheimer, probably the most underrated regular on here. From the hilarious and offensive asian accent (assuming that WAS you) to your comments above you’re one of my favs. Teddy the Bear astonished me with how quickly he came in dropping some cold f**kin knowledge. Gotta say that people gotta look at the whole system of government and corporate power’s role in it throughout every level of government (often down to the local,sadly). They gotta look at the prez’s power in comparison to congress’s at this point. Reconsideration of whether voting is all it’s going to take to make this country a place that’s, above all else sustainable in relation to the environment (because guess what, theres only one earth!) AND fair to a more broad swathe of its citizens is needed. A revaluation of all values treasured up till now is desperately called for because those are the values that have led to all the strife and disharmony. True we have VERY much to thank our lucky stars for (t least i do), but i strongly believe we can still improve our socioeconomic relations to ourselves and the world. Sorry for the looong comment just care lots about this stuff and im glad lotsa you do too.
    That being said cosign everyone who’s said theyd rather debate the game than politics/philosophy over the internet.

  • http://gmail.com z

    Aaaand a triple post..Jackass

  • http://www.slamonline.com Redd

    Lol @ Allen. It really is. More so, whites have done most of the oppression throughout time.

  • Loaf

    i love how one comment can just explode the comment section to a massive race/political arguement

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    That’s what I like about SLAM, Loaf. =)

  • Coops

    For a basketball website i lot of crazy stuff goes on here, quite suprised we havent stubbled across the solution to world hunger by accident while aguing who has the better jumpshot – Obama or Ghandi

  • http://slamonline.com Wayno

    I’d take a prime Ghandi any day…

  • Brahsef

    But Obama’s PER is > Ghandi

  • Salty

    Z: This is America. We won’t do the right thing until we’ve tried everything else. And until more than 45-50% of the population are voting, and more than 20% of the total population has any clue what’s going on in politics, we’re gonna get poor outcomes. Like Mencken said, American democracy is the worship of jackals by jack*sses

  • bobby

    Have the Nets even released the uniforms to the public yet?

  • http://Slam cesar Leo

    The comments have contained enough rhetoric to keep
    me in a inquisitive mind state for 15 minutes, which is impressive.

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