The Los Angeles Lakers’ Tax Bill Could Reach $94.5 Million in 2014

The Collective Bargaining Agreement is the System the NBA business operates under. It resembles Capatilism (
An economic and political system in which a country’s trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit ), but that doesn’t mean that’s what it is – as Owner’s have an equal say in profit and trade as it’s employees do. I mean the whole damn purpose of the CBA is to expunge the NBA from our normal economic system.

I just thought it came off as an insult. Like I say our perceptions definitely differ I don’t agree with yours, but didn’t feel like it would have helped make my point about location and pay to say it was an ignorant one, which I happen to think it does. And the point you’re trying to make is as ever evolving as mine.

what i said you were ignorant about was the Clippers. That is it. (well and then later about what being called Ignorant about a subject means)

it’s unrelated because it has nothing to do with this conversation. we aren’t talking about why players choose one place over another. We are talking about why big markets in the NBA yield more money, compared to in the real world.
.
But it’s cute that you want to defend @retloc:disqus is he not doing a good enough job responding to me? talk about delusions of grandeur, does you defending him set me straight or something? are you batman, ridding the world of the joker? (see how asking stupid questions does nothing?)
.
I never told Retloc how to think, and I only argued about factual information (in the context of our conversation). is your issue with my argumentative nature? or are you just mad because i said one of your points is irrelevant?
.
oh and how does you telling me about my own comments and defining them yourself, and then calling me “pathetic” make you any better than me? that seems a little hypocritical. just a little.

Why do you keep responding to me in different locations? You don’t like my response in one place, so you jump to another and try and incite a different retort? is that how this works?
.
I explained what I said to retloc, to retloc. If you are confused about any of it, you can find an explanation somewhere in these comments.
.
And again, you judging me and telling me your opinion of my comments doesn’t prove your point, it just makes what your saying look very hypocritical. that’s the fact.

HA! Is that your opinion or is that a fact?

lol

the thing is this arguement bet you 2 started or shuold i say 1 is because retloc more of like laid out a complain about capitalism being the prevalent in the NBA and how by in his own realization, think, how he feels it pathetically connects with his own situation. remeber, the saying that said,” a man’s view on his world reflects more on himself rather than..”etc. then nbk being all technical,swoop down on his prey and stood to correct him that he was wrong on his views that NBA actually works differently in which case he has a strong point (as he laid out)only he didnt get why retloc made that comment in the 1st place. I hope im right but i think retloc misses his family now that i read more and blames capitalism for his current plight.

So boston is the greatest location ever?

This is why I typically don’t comment im a ranter, and im not mentally ill, I have focus issues. I still function fine in the greater scheme of things. Very prone to rants though

Only you just said you are ignorant. Not you are ignorant about this. Im really just killing my day on here is all though. Like I say weather day sitting in camp we have no tv and I’ve got my fill of reading books in the last few days. You made my day go by way quickker. Probably the best weather day in camp since I text battled a heroin dealing sexual deviant who ended up with my buddies phone. Not much in the way of entertainment in camp the same dudes for forty or fifty days straight those conversations get a little stale. I’ve completely enjoyed our interaction.

No,demand that you are the only one who understands everything that is said in here and others whom you have argued with does not have plain common sense in understanding and differentiating stated facts by you, which would as any grown man would think, might translate into the real world. It would suggest your stated facts, that since everyone which you have corrected does not understand your point which is too easy,then we are imbeciles then and might not function normally in the “real world” that you call? because the way you have gone about your being blunt is something that readily implies your the only one who understands anything in here.As you argue with everyone. Anyone who states a point that you don’t agree with easily becomes your debate partner.And if he can not follow,becomes a lesser being to you. That is an intellectual bully to me.Mind you english is not my first language but i can almost see through you and in our culture,Respect in the thoughts,words and deeds is very highly regarded. If it is lost in America. I am sorry.

Actually I said the Clippers make money because Sterling is cheap and not interested in winning. I even said they are a successful franchise financially despite going about it in an untraditional way. I never once said they are run poorly from a business’s perspective. Donald Sterling is a piece of shit, but he makes money at just about everything he does from what I know. Good try tho.

This is actually only the fourth time I belie e I’ve taken the rant online. I rant to coworkers friends and family mostly. Write a lot to try to put the chaos in order, but it mostly comes out as abstract poetry that is anything but ordered. I definitely don’t give posting on a bball forum enough importance to justify organizing my thoughts. Save that for when I really need it

Il definitely assume the responsibility for this going way off topic, in camp my mind is always racing, especially in regards to money jobs etc. Finding myself a country away from my wife and son for money is a stressor, so the whole structure that I’ve willingly sold myself to seems to always be on my mind. I hope I don’t become that guy who always rants about the govt power money etc. I just have trouble not seeing how its not all related.

If I would have read this at the time it was posted it may have saved some time. Like I said it originallly seemed to be in the context of overall. I responded with heavy sarcasm which didn’t clarify the issue at all.

It is not lost, however, our society has respect issues in general. I tried to remain respectful,but human nature is to denigrate others to elevate self. All of us fall into it some time or another. And I wasn’t really trying to have a bball conversation at all, which is why I chose the topic regarding finances. In my mind I know I believe everyone is equal, but its hard to live that every day.

Inin chronicles defense I have no idea how these comments are arranged. If you read this in a linear fashion there’s a whole different discussion taking place, at least on my phone.

Imim inot blaming capitalism for my current plight,if anything im bllaming the illusion of money power and the class system of the world. But im not into the blame game im where I am because of decisions I’ve made. Made a lot of bad ones that I’ve now got to deal with. But its all on me. But my intent was to take this to a human level

I think of myself in terms of being a person. I don’t want to be an employee, but am. I’ve had, and currently have my own business as well, but it can be a long road to see profit. In the end I just want to be connected to people, because being open honest and having good relationships is more important than all the money in the world.

and they all lived happily ever after. . . . ?
—
For the record… the adventures of nbk make for great reading.

The Knicks get blasted on the regular in the press, they also celebrate their victories but failures are just as magnified. Go back and look up the Daily News headline when Patrick Ewing missed that finger roll.

- first of all the NFL system is totally different and completely promotes parity. The revenue sharing system in that league is completely even. The sport is insanely popular and the players where helmets, “marketability” within the sport is far less important. -Tim Duncan, Kevin Durant are what we like to call exceptions. Their priorities are purely about winning, when that happens with stars, it changes the game. But those are exceptions. -in terms of “middle class” and “lower class” players, the middle class still typically choose a big market over a small one, and a lot of times for less money (Ronnie Brewer signed in New York for the minimum for example). Lower class is not much different than the normal economy except the competition for a job is even higher. – there are obvious similarities to our normal economy, there are obvious similarities between any economy if you want to look for them. The league still operates under the CBA, the intent of which is to circumvent business laws that would otherwise be illegal. – I do agree about blanket terms, that misunderstanding was my fault. – and I never said small markets don’t pay a premium for talent, it’s that they can’t pay a more than double the premium for multiple talents. Typically.

Thank you now I understand your position a lot better. I still see OKC though being profitable with two max contracts and if the re-sign Harden several other large contracts, with Perkins and Ibaka.Don’t know if that applies to your aforementioned Kevin Durant exception, but I think winning has to come first for any franchise to rise to prominence, the Lakers were able to grow the way they did because they were winners before they had the big market. Granted the reason they decided to move to LA was to corner an untapped market (which at the time was unheard of), they were the NBA’s first West Coast team and the NBA’s first dynasty, they also had arguably 3 of the first NBA super stars in Mikan, Baylor and West all of whom were drafted by the team (Mikan was awarded to the team when the the PBL was disbanded and the players were distributed by make shift lottery; so hence a draft). So winning predated the big market. Now once they were established major name players got traded there (ie, Wilt and Kareem) but they still did really well in the draft (Magic, Worthy, and Kobe)(in Kobe’s case draft day trades still have ambiguity to if they were going to trade him or he stated he wouldn’t play for Charlotte first). My point being winning is paramount, the money follows the wins it doesnt matter the market. The Yankees are the Yankees because they win thats how they got to the level of being able to afford that payroll.

Not necessarily. The collective bargaining agreement is what determines the salary cap for ___ amount of years, usually 10 if I recall correctly. So the more money the team makes over the life of that agreement, the more leverage the players have when it comes to negotiating their future pay. So since team lost money, the players are getting screwed under this new contract regardless of how much the league grows. However, if the league continuos to grow under the CBA then players will be allowed to make more under the next CBA.