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Monday, October 8th, 2012 at 9:30 am  |  165 responses

Tyson Chandler Says Jeremy Lin Wasn’t Able to Run Knicks’ Offense


Now that Jeremy Lin is in Houston, former teammate Tyson Chandler claims that the young point guard didn’t know how to properly run New York’s offense. Reports Newsday: “The Knicks’ play at point guard wasn’t strong last season. Lin, Baron Davis, Toney Douglas, Mike Bibby and then-rookie Iman Shumpert all started at some point. Asked about Davis and Lin, who hadn’t started an NBA game before last season, Chandler said one was too banged up and the other too inexperienced. ‘Baron was hurt and Jeremy was a young point guard who was just learning, trying to learn and figure out an offense,’ Chandler said. ‘It was nothing against them and it was definitely nothing against Baron. Baron was hurt the whole year and giving us everything he had. Jeremy was a young point guard who was inexperienced, who brought a great light to the organization. But as far as being able to run the offense and putting players in the right position he just wasn’t there. We got some veteran point guards that are capable of doing that.’ Chandler was a big Lin fan and praised him repeatedly last season. But with Lin now a member of the Houston Rockets, the Knicks have moved on.”

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  • SK

    I think he did a good job. Ball hogs like Melo made things difficult. Jeremy Lin is a Harvard grad Mr. Chandler. He has a high B-ball IQ. You on the other hand are our foul prone starting center with not even one post move. Fall back..

  • MUBWAR

    Im no Lin fan but the knicks as an organization just suck. He braught u guys to the playoff when amare was hurt n melo couldnt buy a bucket. A little respect please

  • ByAnyMeansNecessary

    Always a punk move to say these kind of things about guys after they leave.

  • MUBWAR

    Oh n chandler learn 1 post move before criticizing anyone

  • Phil

    Lin was in a no win situation I’m glad he left for his own team. If he directed melo, melo would huff and puff and not play defense and sabotage the team. If he conceited to melo than he’s inexperienced and the team flow suffers because melo would stop the ball. I’m wondering after two years now why hasn’t the accountability fell on melo and amare??? All you hear is excuses, we didn’t have the right coach, we didn’t have the pt guard, we weren’t in the right physical condition! Bottom line this team has been below average and blame falls on melo and amare.

  • Gigi G

    You don’t have to comment your previous teammate like this to bribe your current teammate in order to get him to pass the ball to you. Jeremy Lin will never do things like this. That is why so many people like him, especially his personal character. It doesn’t matter he is experienced or not, or he wins or loses the games. He is a kind of person you would like to have as a friend. Not like somebody: today – you are with me = you’re good; tomorrow – you are useless = you are not good at all. Kids’ theory.

  • http://www.facebook.com/qcollingwood Interdico Scriptor

    Having watched quite a few Knick games on League Pass (man that shit is hot) I tend to agree with this statement. JLin was overrated as far as maturity and it has nothing to do with bball IQ. BBall IQ is not the same as regular IQ. JLin may have a v high IQ but he has ways to go before he is able to live up to his hype. Everything in NY is scrutinised and under pressure and examined with a microscope, consequently JLin had a string of games where he contributed gallantly and was a pleasure to watch. But honestly there were some leaks in that boat. His strengths were revealed in some games (LALakers) but were exposed in others (Miami, Boston). He is not v good when pressured and often makes careless mistakes. He has a ways to go. Good luck in Houston, but honestly, JLin ain’t even a Dragic, yet alone a Nash.

  • http://www.facebook.com/qcollingwood Interdico Scriptor

    Actual IQ has nothing to do with bball IQ. Nothing. Some of the dumbest people you ever met are awesome at sports, and the smartest are terrible. TDuncan is smart with high bball IQ, trying to think who else…

  • Gigi G

    It was the team with Lin (called “inexperienced”) led the 7-games win streak if you still remember? Not Mav’s veteran: Jkidd with18-year experience.

  • spit hot fiyah

    have fun with felton

  • ByAnyMeansNecessary

    What kind of offense couldn’t he run? He ran D’Antoni’s fine. He and Amar’e played well together. If I were Tyson, I’d just be happy with being paid a huge amount of money to block shots, rebound and occasionally dunk the basketball.

  • traiter

    tyson c is a traiter

  • G

    Any games Felton or JKidd beat the Miami or Boston? Whoever won 7-game streak without veterans(or “experienced” you called) and “stars” you called (Melo and STAT)? He has very high Basketball IQ every body saw world-widely. That is why he has a lot of supports and fans.

    You don’t want to say every body in the world is wrong and only you is correct, Is that possible? (IQ test question)

  • Feez_22

    I think Lin was a good player at the lead guard position for the knicks. He did avg 7+ assists at one point and did better than any other NY point guard last season at running the offense. I think lin obviously didn’t run the system to perfection as he was a 2nd year guard (rookie starter) but he had a lot of potential. Great leader and had charisma. When melo came back, lin couldn’t run the offense like he wanted… Melo always had the ball.

    Obviously, lin has to reduce turnovers. he avg like 4.5 per game. However, i think he will do that in houston. I just hate the disrespect the knicks are giving him after they let him leave. Lin saved the knicks’ season. If not for jeremy, the knicks wouldn’t have sniffed playoffs last year so they should give him some respect for what he did.

    I honestly think the knicks are in for another rough season. I think the knicks finish as a 6-8 seed and lose once again in the playoffs.

  • nick

    Lost all respect for TC….from what I remember, TC made more buckets wth Lin on the floor…..

  • nick

    Lost all respect for TC….from what I remember, TC made more buckets wth Lin on the floor…..

  • K_HOLIDAY

    Headline is kind of misleading, but I dont see anything wrong with what Chandler said. Is he lying? We dont know what the question was or how it was asked, and reading his response, I see nothing wrong with what he said. He didnt say Lin was a bad player, or didnt produce. He just said he was too inexperienced to direct the offense. A guy like CP3 is always pointing and moving guys to where they need to be on the offensive and defensive end. Looks to me like Chandler is saying Lin wasnt on that level; didnt have enough experience at the point in the league to orchestrate .

  • K_HOLIDAY

    Headline is kind of misleading, but I dont see anything wrong with what Chandler said. Is he lying? We dont know what the question was or how it was asked, and reading his response, I see nothing wrong with what he said. He didnt say Lin was a bad player, or didnt produce. He just said he was too inexperienced to direct the offense. A guy like CP3 is always pointing and moving guys to where they need to be on the offensive and defensive end. Looks to me like Chandler is saying Lin wasnt on that level; didnt have enough experience at the point in the league to orchestrate .

  • Ugh

    Bill Bradley?

  • Ugh

    Bill Bradley?

  • Gigi G

    Was it the reason Knicks couldn’t win the champion? Inexperienced person led 7-game win streak. Without that, Knicks couldn’t even make the playoff.

    What were the results for the team Felton and JKidd with last year if they were so “good”?

    It is just not professional to comment the person who left. I don’t think this kind of person will find a job if he/she say any thing like this about the previous co-workers. It is common sense for any body, even for people who haven’t had a chance to go to college, Chandler.

  • Gigi G

    Was it the reason Knicks couldn’t win the champion? Inexperienced person led 7-game win streak. Without that, Knicks couldn’t even make the playoff.

    What were the results for the team Felton and JKidd with last year if they were so “good”?

    It is just not professional to comment the person who left. I don’t think this kind of person will find a job if he/she say any thing like this about the previous co-workers. It is common sense for any body, even for people who haven’t had a chance to go to college, Chandler.

  • coyboo

    *traitor my dear watson. it’s like u got a sore throat ther

  • coyboo

    *traitor my dear watson. it’s like u got a sore throat ther

  • Ugh

    So if Lin is so smart, why couldn’t he work out how to run a play that wasn’t a pick & roll once D’Antoni got fired?

  • Ugh

    So if Lin is so smart, why couldn’t he work out how to run a play that wasn’t a pick & roll once D’Antoni got fired?

  • K_HOLIDAY

    Again, I see nothing wrong with what he said. It may not be professional for a former teammate to bad mouth Lin, but I dont see him doing that here. He just stated his opinion on the Knicks point guard situation last season. He didnt blast Lin. Lin did a lot for the organization in terms of providing a spark and getting them back in the hunt for a championship with their playoff berth. I think Tyson respects that, but was just commenting on the situation they had to deal with last year. Remember, Chandler was one of Lin’s biggest fans during the whole LINSANITY madness last season

  • K_HOLIDAY

    Again, I see nothing wrong with what he said. It may not be professional for a former teammate to bad mouth Lin, but I dont see him doing that here. He just stated his opinion on the Knicks point guard situation last season. He didnt blast Lin. Lin did a lot for the organization in terms of providing a spark and getting them back in the hunt for a championship with their playoff berth. I think Tyson respects that, but was just commenting on the situation they had to deal with last year. Remember, Chandler was one of Lin’s biggest fans during the whole LINSANITY madness last season

  • Max

    Thow him under the bus!

  • Max

    Thow him under the bus!

  • Ugh

    Gee, how about ‘Wing Isolation’ and ‘Baseline Isolation’? You know, the two plays Mike Woodson runs.

  • SuperEman24

    I totally agree with you guys. Chandler should shut his mouth. If it was not of Lins heroics last feb. they were not be able to adv. in the playoffs.

  • Dbn

    They talk about Lin, like he didn’t make the knicks organization look good.

  • Ugh

    I don’t think Tyson Chandler will still find work in the NBA after saying that.

  • http://www.facebook.com/shooting.guard.319 Shooting Guard

    and that’s the thanks he gets from the big man? wow i can’t wait to my squad miami beat up on these knicks again

  • Redd

    Eh Lin played just fine and carried them. Are they worse now without him? I doubt it.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    all he was saying is that Lin wasn’t fully capable of running the offense how it was designed. and it seems like he is contributing that to age, not ability. And the Knicks offense, when facing good defensive PG’s with Lin on the court, really did struggle… Except that game against Deron Williams (who was about as unmotivated as a player can be during the season).

  • Frank

    Celtics fan till i die here, and hated that LInsaity garbage ESPN tried feeding everyone, but to say he didn’t know how to properly run the offense is idiotic. They had a winning record with Lin and no Melo/Stat and Tyson got more touches without either of them there too sooo? I mean, Jeremy wasn’t the answer, and i doubt he couldve kept that momentum going for an entire season, but what promise have Melo/Stat showed? Stat was beasting alone, but has yet to go back to his pre-Melo days and its been nearly two years now. NYK shouldve traded all of those pieces for Deron or CP3.

  • danpowers

    except in his outing against us after lin had his great game against him. in this one he lit us up lol

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    yeah that’s why i said that one game against Deron Williams lol

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/DXRP4P4FNADVWUSV7AV7XC5NPE Unkown

    maybe because melo came back? knicks have some greedy jealous ass players and ball hogs..JLin MADE everybody look good and help them win a 7 game winning streak..Its not JLIN fault if all the players not willing to work with him on the court.. Knicks is the worst team out there..Felton played like crap like season .Kidd he is old and wont do shit..

  • gigi g

    Simple, basketball is a team game, not a personal show. That is why Michael Phelps could win all gold metal in the individuals, but not the 4 x 100 freestyle relay this year, America got 2nd in 2012 Olympic even if he was doing extremely well at his part – far far ahead of others.

    Maybe Knicks not only needs a new PG, but also C, SF, PF, and SG. But, still they will say we need a NEW coach and NEW NEW GM. lol

  • danpowers

    you opened old scars man lol

  • danpowers

    if anybody except chandler wouldve made this statement i wouldve commented with “i apologize in the name of any knick-fan for this sore loser dropping cheap comments about a nice point guard who left us”

    but when chandler says that, a guy who doesnt need to artificially draw attention, a veteran leader who proved to be a true champion, then there must be something reasonable about it. so there is nothing left to say about this but “may this lil greedy mofo play and be happy with his money and his new lottery team we dont need this lil homeless couch grabbing bitch no more. yo you know what jeremy lin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fvfsT3LNNM;)

  • danpowers

    mike dantoni wanted to trade melo for deron williams. quite shortly after that he left the big apple so that wont happen. anyway, lin ran the offense well when half the team was out / hurt and that was a great performance. i think no knick fan would ever possibly forget that. the offense just stuttered badly when starting guys returned to the lineup and defenses started to focus on lin. lin will have a good carreer in this leage but as of now he isnt ready yet to manage such a difficult / clumsy knick line up. it takes a proven veteran point guard to make this run.

  • danpowers

    just because melo and stat were hurt for most of that time

  • danpowers

    he also had a ton of turnover and unfortunately did not really do well as melo and stat returned. i think that was chandlers point.

  • danpowers

    yo moma is a traitor

  • danpowers

    he has alot of fans and support because he had some break out games but his ton of turnovers proved that he was not ready to consistently run an nba offense. that showed when melo and stat returned. lin is a good player but he wasnt ready to lead the knicks in a way a veteran point guard could.

  • danpowers

    what kind of thing? is there anything in his statement suggesting lin was a bad player? he also credited what lin did in the same statement. nothing really bad about it.

  • ByAnyMeansNecessary

    The Knicks were dead in the water until he was inserted into the lineup. He kept D’Antoni around a little longer. Amar’e was a statue on the floor watching Melo shoot and not being involved really in the offense until Lin got him going. He brought excitement to the Garden. Excitement to the league. Tyson should have nothing to say except “Thanks for making us relevant and a team worth watching and good luck in Houston”.

  • danpowers

    but this wouldnt have been the whole story.lin did what you said and chandler also mentioned that he “brought a great light to the organization”. but it was also obvious that lin couldnt run the offense well under pressure, when defenses focused on him. at least he couldnt do it consistently. just a fact. same as that he brought the knicks back to life. both is true.

  • chyea

    If running the offense meant giving the ball to Melo on the wing and let him isolate, then Lin really didn’t do that much

  • Sean

    This guy is not that great without Tyson setting him hard screen he’s not even a one on one player watch how he becomes a role player in Houston and I’m deff not a KNICK fan

  • Harlem_World

    With an Olympic Gold…Lin is nowhere near the relative value of Tyson. Also read the report again – he’s telling the truth and was probably prompted again and again until he gave some kind of answer.

  • danpowers

    there is no disrespect in chandlers comment. read the whole comment guys. it is just the slam headline that implys chandler said something bad about lin (which he didnt.)

  • Harlem_World

    Bottom line: Felton + Kidd > Lin + Baron

  • Harlem_World

    Bottom line: Felton + Kidd > Lin + Baron

  • Gigi G

    1. Which veteran point guard do you talk about? Felton or JKidd? Jeremy Lin beat both teams they (veterans) were with as a PG.
    2. Did they win Lakers by 38 points while Kobe shot 31 points?
    3. How did they do when they were 23-year-old?
    How many PGs in NBA played over 40 mins night to night.
    You should learn the statistic: the turnovers / mins the ball was on his hand. And how come he is the top scorer in NBA history, not the veteran (s) you preferred.
    Just want to be fair for the comment with JLin. He will be better and better. Not the person who always find excuses to blame others.

  • http://twitter.com/Jzakoni Verified Account

    It was a lucky run, he ain’t no big deal

  • http://twitter.com/Jzakoni Verified Account

    The linsanity run was all a fluke

  • MUBWAR

    uh dan do the knicks pay you? if not why are you defending this sorry ass excuse of an organization on everyone’s post.

  • Datkid

    that’s not even really true…. although I think they might be better for this melo-centric offense. but is melo-ball the right way to go for the knicks? I DOUBT it.

  • Datkid

    and the 2nd game D.will played against him… good lord.

  • danpowers

    i am just able to remember what actually happens and am able to read. just trying to help people in here coz im a nice person ;)

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    $100 says Deron Williams is not done giving you scars

  • Datkid

    I actually kinda agree with you, but at the same time had melo cooperated w/ the offense (i.e. kept the ball moving, and become the catch and shoot monster he was in the olympics) Lin could have made defenses pay for focusing on him

  • roscoe

    if you read what lin says about himself he would agree he was making dumb mistakes on the court. & jkidd, even at his age, is a better pg imo… that’s not to say lin won’t get better, bc he will imo.

  • ALD

    tyson needs to stop acting tough on the court, and then off the court takes nude pictured for ESPN.

  • nice_trousers

    the Knicks played the last 6 weeks of the season without Lin. in that span they went 12-5, with Melo averaging 30 ppg on 49.5% shooting

  • Surety

    A 7 game winning streak is a lucky run? In a season when the Knicks were 8-15 before that and losing to teams like the Bobcats? The sudden turnaround was lucky? Get your head out of your ass and you might be less of a dumbass. But probably neither would happen.

  • ab40

    I see the bitch in you Tyson Chandler.

  • danpowers

    could happen, we will see

  • danpowers

    nobody says lin was a bad player. he has some things to offer, like his scoring. but felton and even kidd at his old age are able to take care of the ball and find people in their right spots better than lin. that is the thing lin hast yet to improve and unfortunately this is exactly what the knicks need. i would have loved to see lin stay tho, but i am sure we will do pretty well without him too.

  • Billster

    And Tyson; what did you ever run, but yo mouth???thought so..try to stay healthy and maybe you’ll get; 11 minutes per game, this season..

  • zogs19994

    FUCK YOU ARAB

  • ByAnyMeansNecessary

    Nothing lucky about going up against Kobe Bryant, Dirk Nowitzki and Jason Kidd and performing well.

  • Beardzerker

    Yes it was lucky. What happened to him the rest of the season? It was all hype hype hype. media hype.

  • Beardzerker

    He brought excitement to the league? For like a week? No one would know who the hell he was if this wasnt the age of twitter and instant information.

  • Beardzerker

    They didnt advance in the playoffs. Douche.

  • Surety

    What happened the rest of the season? He started playing in an iso system with iso focused players. He didn’t fit well with Melo or Amare, especially Carmelo. Of course he was hyped but you’re saying media hype helped them win 7 straight games to get them back to .500? You’re even more retarded than Verified Account.

  • ByAnyMeansNecessary

    So the media hype beat the Lakers and Mavs…not Lin leading the Knicks?

  • ByAnyMeansNecessary

    He came out of nowhere and ended up being a part of the All-Star Weekend. The Knicks were boring to watch before him. Were you under a rock in February? With or without Twitter, all you needed was ESPN to know who he was. Pretty stupid comment from you.

  • http://twitter.com/Jzakoni Verified Account

    Fuck outta here. Protecting that man like if he pays your bills. Fucking faggot. Tebow of the nba. He got hot cause everyon slept on him. But when he got of teams radar. He got torn to pieces.. I.e the Miami game where the heat tore him apart TO SHREDS. That dude was afraid to dribble the ball up court. Just see how this season plays out as the number one option. Faggot

  • http://twitter.com/Jzakoni Verified Account

    There’s Is something about sleeping on a scrub.. Remember all these stars were tired cause it was basically mid season. They weren’t focusing on this scrub

  • http://twitter.com/Jzakoni Verified Account

    Knicks been dead for the longest bruh

  • danpowers

    kidd and felton also had many great games in their carreer, so far actually more than lin had. you guys wining for lin are not able to read properly. nobody said lin was a bad player, actually he is a good player with the potential to become great one day. his ball handling was just horribly under average and later in the season before he got hurt teams were able to shut him down and totally took him out of the game by forcing him to go left. lin may be a better overall player than felton and kidd (at kidds age now) but he lacks that playmaking ability that felton and kidd have. the thing is, lin knows that. he also said that he is watching alot of film (also film of felton) to learn and improve his game. and again, NOBODY said that lin was a bad player. Everybody said that he brought the knicks back to live last year. chandler and anyone in here defending the statement is just stating facts. you tardos need to learn how to read properly

  • http://twitter.com/Jzakoni Verified Account

    People always forget how many turnovers this dude averaged a game. All you dudes quit treating him like he’s elite

  • danpowers

    he played a major role in the mavericks title run, won defensive player of the year honors, overcame an injury plagued early carreer to become a reliable defensive anchor for his squads to rely on. and what did you ever run or achieve compared to that?

  • http://twitter.com/Jzakoni Verified Account

    People always forget how many turnovers this dude averaged a game. All you dudes quit treating him like he’s elite. Glorified scrub

  • Surety

    ‘Faggot’. Nothing in my post indicates anything about my sexual orientation. But everything in your post says that you’re an idiot. Despite your attempt at a rebuttal, you still fail to defend how utterly stupid your comment was. I don’t give a shit about the man, but I will give him objective due where it is deserved and I won’t where it isn’t. You calling that run ‘lucky’ means that you’re either completely fucking stupid or that you just can’t stand that an ordinary-looking mediocre-athletic asian cat played well this past season and garnered unprecedented media attention along the way. If it’s the latter, you’re still a complete fucking idiot but even worse you’re a spiteful one.

  • danpowers

    plus people seem to read the headline only instead of the actual statement.

  • AK

    Shutup mr kno it all. You dont know sh.ittttt

  • Jay Cutler

    Oooh. Illiterate imbecile learned a new word: faggot. Let’s see you use it a little more creatively now, ok? :)

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    you can just spell shit.

  • http://twitter.com/Jzakoni Verified Account

    Race means nothing to me you fool. Don’t even try to throw that card at me. Lets see how your man performs this season.

  • http://twitter.com/Jzakoni Verified Account

    Still believe that everyone slept on him. When they focused on him. He got torn apart. Lets see how your man performs this season. He’s def not elite. You forgot to see how many flaws he has in his game

  • http://twitter.com/Jzakoni Verified Account

    Your always too blind to see how many flaws he has in his game

  • Feez_22

    His turnovers actually prove he’s a young guard. Most young point guards turn it over a lot. It’s called adapting to the game.

  • danpowers

    sure but he did that way too often, besides setting a record for points scored in breakout games he also set a new record for turnovers during that stretch. and yes, he will adjust and develop into a good point guard. he is just not there yet. and the knicks need that kind of playmaker now, and not in 2 years. that was what chandlers statement is about. i dont see how this would be any disrespect to lin

  • Phil

    The knicks are acting like a butthurt female that can’t let go! The NY press too! You wanna act like females then your gonna get treated like females. They wanna say lin is a scrub but why you still talking about him? If he was just a tiny piece of the team why can’t you let go? Obviously his d#$& was better than melo or amare’s because you still crave it from 2,000 miles away! The first step to recovery is stop sitting down when you pee!

  • Chris Bosh

    Does anybody want to have sex? I’m hard right now. Lebron? Dwyane? Anybody?

  • danpowers

    he talked about lin because he got asked about him. nobody called him a scrub. why r the knick headlines making you wine and bitch about anyway? not happy with your life? lack of real problems? inability to read properly?

  • aicomeback

    you act like the heat defense hasnt torn up moderately athletic point guards this is nothing new the fact that you hate lin getting attention is the only reason why this matters

  • kball

    I feel really, really bad to read to much comment from ‘so called’ ball fans. Yet, everyone seems to forget that there more than 5 bench players on every team which have had their own 7 game streak, I do believe had he been a black male from florida he would just be on a couple of highlights reels. Because there are players on the wizards, bucks, new orleans etc…. who had a good “couple’ of games, not seasons, games.

  • danpowers

    lol

  • danpowers

    too early to tell as this was just his second season. normally you dont hear any contorversy by young guys with few exceptions. you could say that lin is such a nice guy, but there are many people giving him like 50% of the blame for leaving the knicks by not signing the first rockets offer that the knicks could have been able to match and instead signed the further increased deal. i am not really sore about lin but there are many people who think bad about that move and not all of them are knicks fans.
    ps: chandler never said lin was useless or not good at all. whats the matter with all that bitching here? y’all didnt read the quote or what? cant be that hard

  • danpowers

    what things? that he brought light to the franchise? yes, really a punk move

  • Ugh

    How does that answer my question?

  • danpowers

    basketball facts arent relevant in here. i think basketball knowledge doesnt have any chance against the surging masses of angry lin-fanatics

  • http://twitter.com/Jzakoni Verified Account

    Top tier PG didnt suffer aginst the heat like Lin did. Lol, c’mon even Rubio had a triple double against the Heat. Lin aint no top tier dude.

  • danpowers

    that were single games and respect should be given to lin for that. just be realistic about this. these outings were not what to expect from him on a regular basis. key word: consistency. he will have a nice carreer, he is just not an elite point guard yet.

  • http://twitter.com/Jzakoni Verified Account

    I think Lin is better then Felton.. But I think Kidd would be that consistent PG… Too bad he’s a lil old

  • danpowers

    oh my. considering all this brain dead crybaby comments the knicks community really has to be glad about having lost lin. not because of lin himself, the kid is a nice player. but because of getting rid of the masses of bandwagon fans not knowing shit about the game at all.

  • danpowers

    lin brings more overall talent because of his size and scoring ability. but felton is better at finding players while taking care of the ball at the same time. the knicks desperately need that ball distribution and veteran leadership – more than they need scoring. so i think lin might be the better player but felton should prove to be the better fit.

  • Ugh

    What does Michael Phelps have to do with Lin being able to run isolation plays? He can run the pick and roll because there isn’t a pro player who can’t – it’s the simplest play in basketball. Tyson Chandler himself could run the P&R from the point guard position. There were two reasons the Knicks were right to let Lin and D’Antoni go.

    First, Melo is one of the most effective scorers on isolation plays in the NBA in the last thirty years. It would absolutely stupid to give that up for a popular point guard who throws the ball into the stands five times a game and can’t drive on his weak hand.

    Second, the pick and roll doesn’t win championships. You can’t name a team in the modern NBA who won a ring running that offense. D’Antoni and Sloan’s post-season records are testament to that, even with the incredibly talented teams they coached.

  • Ugh

    And I believe that Chandler said the problem with Lin was inexperience.

  • Ugh

    I just want to point out that Mike D’Antoni’s offense allowed Nate Robinson to score 41 points off the bench after not being in a game for months.

    Think about that.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Glad someone got that

  • danpowers

    what else do you think where lin’s negatively record setting turnovers came from. experience?

  • danpowers

    wasnt hard to get, good one, lol. but this article seems to attract certain people suffering some sort of content-illiteracy. in other words: dont expect too many people in here to get this one ;)

  • danpowers

    bitch please

  • Gigi G

    Chandler got the most allay-oop from JLin. Now he said JLin did not know how to run offense?!

    Where was the rookie offer? JLin lost the opportunity to be with the team America because there was not an offer from Knicks. Knicks failed its plan to make JLin cheaper (without a contract, JLin would be as cheap as Knicks planned). Thanks Houston. Go Rockets Go!

  • danpowers

    chandler received alley-oop passes from any point guard he played with so far. the knicks were ready to match the first rockets offer that wouldve been something like 5, 5, 9 mio. (dont remember the exact amount) but the news back then said that lins camp wasnt happy with the offer. houston increased it then, lin signed and went on to houston. that was the reason why many people reacted negatively on this.

    and youp, go rockets go… for the lottery. or where do you think will the rockets end up after getting rid of their main guys to be

  • ByAnyMeansNecessary

    How many 1st or 2nd year PGs in the league now are elite? Who said he was? He’s an above average PG. I saw all I needed to see to determine that after that run he went on. That’s not a fluke in the NBA. Guys don’t get lucky for that amount of time playing against the talent in the NBA. If anyone thinks that Raymond Felton and an old Jason Kidd who will be doing more teaching than playing is a huge upgrade over Lin, they’re kidding themselves.

  • ByAnyMeansNecessary

    No. It was disrespectful to talk about him as if he was just out there winging it. That was a punk move. He didn’t have a word to say about it to him while he was there winning games for them and the Garden was actually excited to watch the team play a watchable kind of offense. Much better than passing to Melo and everyone else watching.

  • Caboose

    Lin is simultaneously overhyped and over-hated. No, he’s not good at running an offense and excels mostly in iso situations. However, he is also a good scorer, decent passer, and a hard worker. I expect 18-6-3 on 38% shooting and 4.2 TO’s.

  • ByAnyMeansNecessary

    The only other PGs Chandler has received more alley oops from that I’ve seen is Chris Paul followed by Jason Kidd two seasons ago in Dallas. To be behind Chris Paul and Jason Kidd isn’t all that bad to me. He won’t be receiving much from Felton or an older Kidd (who will be on the bench more than on the floor at his age). He will now be getting all of his points from offensive rebounds. If he had thought it through, he would have kept his mouth shut. He better hope Melo, Amar’e, JR Smith and Felton miss a lot of shots. The entire Knicks organization has nothing to say but “Thank you” to Lin for what he did for them last season.

  • danpowers

    never said they were better than lin. just that what they do helps more at this point. when i first thought that the knicks would keep lin at any cost i was also concerned about chemistry. because lin needs shots too to be good and play out his whole potential. with guys like stat, melo and jr smith on the roster who are volume shooters this couldve become a problem. latest when shump returns. he aint selfish but also likes to slash n take shots. thats why i think lin leaving ny could really turn out well for ny or at least not hurt the team.

  • roscoe

    truth. he is fun to watch though.

  • danpowers

    so in late march and during april melo didnt take over and brought the same excitement that lin did? lins cinderella story was awesome, but melo being on fire was nothing short of that. melo earned player of the month honors which lin didnt, inter alia for turning the ball over way too often. so lin wasnt the only reason that the season was exciting for us knicks fans and it is also not true to point out anthony as just the bad guy who hurt the team. simply not true.

    actually knicks fans will kiss melos balls forever to make antoni leave the apple. even if antoni wouldve been successful we wouldnt have liked to keep him coz knicks fans want to see DDDefense. that melo and stat at times lack defensive commitment is a whole different story. that watchable offense was antoni’s system which always lets a point guard look good and inflates their numbers. even duhon had good numbers in this system, it made nate robinson have a 40point game before he disappeared on the bench. also nice thing to compare: felton averaging 17ppg and 9apg over 54games compared to lins 14ppg and 7apg during 25 games dont look really extraordinary. lin explosion was nice but chandler was talking about CONSISTENTLY running an offense. lins assist to turnover ratio during his 25 starts stood at 1,7 which ranked 40th among 44 point guards in the league who qualified to get into the sample which is the one of the most important stats to rank a point guards ability to run an offense.

    lin is also not even an average defender and at times looked like he didnt even compete against rondo having the game of his life or d williams lighting him up. or do you remember the game when chalmers solely defended lin, pressuring him at halfcourt? the heat didnt throw anything else at lin except a double hedge at screens. lins stat line in this game: 1-9 from the field, 8 turnovers and 3 assists.

    it was also clear that lins ppg would go down as anthony returned but there was no reason for his fg% to drop from 54% to 41% and his apg from 7,1 to 6apg. dont come up with melo iso ball, the knicks went back to that when lin went down, not instantly when melo returned. they just couldnt figure out how to play with each other. they put up a 8-9 record playing together and combined to lead the team to a 19-6 record without each other. so yes, lin wasnt actually able to mesh and meshing with your teams best scorer is your no.1 priority as a point guard. the numbers just prove chandler right and still dont say lin was or is a bad player.

  • danpowers

    im in with 15-7-4 on 44% and 3,1 TO’s

  • danpowers

    dislike on this one? lin fans seem to have a little problem with reality and facts ^^

  • danpowers

    could we build consensous to just call him Antoni, please? he doesnt really deserve the d in his name

  • Datkid

    @danpowers:disqus Lin is young. those turnovers would’ve gone down pretty soon. Lin would’ve been great for the knicks if they ACTUALLY wanted to win. but what they really want is to shovel the ball into melo so people can watch him jab step 80 times AND they can lose. Felton and Kidd can both do that really well.

  • danpowers

    the numbers speak against this except you expect melo to be hurt / out for most of the season. lin was really not able to mesh with melo. he could develop this chemistry if you give him a couple of seasons but the knicks need that glue guy at the point now who makes the team mesh and not in some years. lin would be a nice third option behind melo and stat but they need a consistent playmaker more than a third scorer as they still have jr smith and shump to score when he comes back.

    actually lins assist to turnover rating and pure point rating and turnover ratio look SO bad that it is not really probable to changer over only one summer. to turn your arguement around: the knicks would waste alot of player material if they would give lin the ball and watch him scoring off iso plays because this is when lin was at his best and the knicks dont run the antoni offense anymore.

    i just feel sorry for lin being on a team now that doesnt even has a shot at the playoffs.

  • The Philosopher

    As I tip my own cap…
    Told the masses that Lin is not a point guard.

  • dork

    Stop beating a dead horse! Too many talents, it was time to move on…

  • imswag

    this is nothing to do with facts, all @disqus_pjIQMFNqgq:disqus is saying Tyson is a punk because he didnt say the stuff while Jeremy was winning games. He only said it after Jeremey had lef. making him a punk

  • danpowers

    chandler got asked about lin and he answered. he didnt say lin was a bad player or that lin sucked, he also mentioned the positive impact of lin. that is just stating the obvious: lin was a nice player for ny but struggled to run the offense consistently. im slowly getting pissed off by all that stupidity and bitching about an objective statement. why should he have said it before if nobody asked him? he made a comparison between what lays ahead and what lays behind the knicks WHEN BEING ASKED ABOUT EXACTLY THAT. no reason to say one of the most upstanding guys in the nba made a punk move. smh

  • imswag

    did Tyson say Lin couldn’t run the offense when they were winning?

  • jumpman

    Damn, danpowers spent his whole day commenting on this article lol.

  • danpowers

    chandler just said back then that he was happy for lin that all this is happening to him because lin is a good guy. in this statement here above he says nothing contrary to this. n btw during linsanity when lin was winning he controlled the game pretty well despite his ton of turnovers during 8 games. this statement is about consistency. lin was not able to run the offense when the injured players returned to the lineup for the following 17 games and this is what its all about. nobody asked chandler about it back then so why should he have said anything? now that he got asked he said nothing else but 1+1=2. he also wishes lin the best. even lin himself knows that he struggled to run the offense which is why he puts alot of effort into working on his ballhandling during this offseason and watches film of other nba point guards. how the hell is what chandler said unfair criticism on lin in any way? the only bad line in all of this is the headline, written by slam. thats not what was coming out of chandlers mouth. is that so hard to understand?

  • Yi-Cheng Chen

    you r the one having problems with the rest of the world because deep inside as a knicks fan know that it’s a pain that Jlin is gone and that senior citizen team is in trouble this season. Period. and dun bite me back saying I am a Jlin fan because I am asian.

  • Yi-Cheng Chen

    lol. even if there was no twitter and instant information, there’s still television and radio. c’mon, lessen that Jlin hate of yours.

  • danpowers

    man i like lin. i rlly loved him during last season and i think he will have a nice carreer. tyson chandler said nothing else. there are some regulars here with a high basketball iq and an understanding of the game and the articles here that i respect. all of them relativating the statement and discussing lins performance by objective judgement. none of these oppose anything what ive said. actually most nba authors write nothing contrary. what you mean by “rest of the world” are just bandwagon fans. maybe they talk this rubbish because anything they know about lin are some random games they saw and some articles they read in their newspaper or business magazine or maybe there are actually asians who only root for him because they and him are asians. (dont piss on my leg now by calling me racist, i am a german and german fans who only love dirk because he happens to be german too root for him even though most of them dont know shit about hoops go on my nerves even more)
    lin making his way to houston was sad for us knick fans. but it doesnt really make a difference as we got veteran guys now running the team. felton+kidd arent overall better than lin but the way they play will fit the ny offense better than lins style of play.
    do you really want to tell me that lin is not turnover prone and that he is already able to constantly run an nba offense like a veteran? you could also argue that lin fans are sore about ny not matching the rockets offer because lin now plays on a team that has no chance at getting to the playoffs.

    if anybody is angry about tyson chandler just stating the facts then thats not because the person is asian or a lin fan. that has nothing to do with ethnicity or citizenship or fan colors. its just because this person doesnt understand the game and isnt able to properly read an article.

    if you want to prove me wrong, please go ahead and do so. tell me antonis system didnt inflate lins stats (which would make lin the first pg ever to play in that system without inflated stats), tell me he wasnt a turnover machine (he set a new turnover record during his starting job so an explanation for that, making smbdy else responsible would be interesting to read) tell me he was able to put melo and other guys into their comfort zones to make them score (which was also not the case as any number of that time proves but id also be thrilled to hear some new theory about it)

    why cant you just leave it at that he had a great great run, delivering the greatest cinderella story in recent basketball memory to us by growing above his potential and showing alot of heart? he will have a nice carreer. he is just not flawless and not yet able to successfully run a whole offense over a full season. if you cant get this and are still buying the hype, you really leave me wondering if youre a moron

  • http://twitter.com/Jzakoni Verified Account

    boo lin-fanatics

  • danpowers

    lol

  • danpowers

    the whole night lol

  • danpowers

    bitch please

  • pposse

    what in the blue hell does tyson chandler know about offense anyways??!

  • msrita

    Your Coach is the problem. He told him to check his free agent options. He got more money than Carmelo Anthony the 63 Million Dollar clown. I’m happy for his move to the Rockets.

  • Raseven

    Lin is overrated plain and simple Tyson is a good judge of how a pg runs an offense considering he played with cp3 and j kidd

  • TC777JLIN168

    I suggest your numbers again. Those you quoted are the averages from the 35 games he played in his entire 2011-12 season, so include the 9-10 games in the beginning part of the season when he played very few minutes.

    With that said, I do think that Chandler is saying like it is and Lin would be the first to agree, because he is young and inexperienced. As such, he did not have the clout to command the floor when the stars Melo and Stat returned (more Melo than Stat), and was not allowed to once Woodson became the coach.

    Whereas Felton says he is a dog (about himself). I take it to mean that Felton is going to bark at everyone on the team until they fall in line regardless of stars or no stars.. Of course, for him to say that, Felton most likely has the nods from his coaches and teammates to do that, which Lin only had it when the team was without Melo and Stat. So it will be definitely interesting to see how things unfold with the Knicks this year. I for one can not wait for the real games to start. Go Knicks!

  • TC777JLIN168

    *you check your numbers again.

  • danpowers

    aggree on everything you said here. the 14-7 included his bench warmer games but all the other stats i brought up were just his starts. and yes sir, lets go knicks

  • Yi-Cheng Chen

    haha. yes, haha. tyson chandler should just play his basketball. period. if he didn’t win that championship in dallas, he’ll still just be another marcus camby (sounds like an insult to camby) but anyway, i don’t have to prove you wrong of your opinion, because Lin will prove that for himself.

  • danpowers

    you dont understand the statement then. i said lin will be a good player, i bet chandler is also of that oppinion like anybody else. this is not about what lin is going to be. it is about what he actually did. if you dont know the importance of taking care of the basketball and meshing your stars on offense as a point guard then you just dont understand the game son. nobody says he played bad in ny. just that he isnt a veteran floor general yet.

  • Yi-Cheng Chen

    did i even said anything about their playing (Chandler and JLin) in NY? I never mentioned about how good or how bad they are. You are the one typing nonstop defending yourself.

  • danpowers

    i am not defending myself. i just dont get why people go on thinking that 1+1=3

  • George@gmail.com

    SOur Grapes…one of those uneducated NBA Players…you could have just shut your mouth …people may not know your stupidity….

  • iamlinsane

    i hate you now chandler… You didnt know how to run offense on USA basketball either… punked

  • Mo Money

    Kareem Abdul Jabbar, Chris Bosh

  • Mo Money

    honestly, TC called it like it is. when melo returned, there was obviously lack of ball movement, which contributed to lin not performing as he did before. plus, there was a drastic change of style going from woodson to d’antoni. what he was basically saying was that lin just didnt fit in new york. i dont see anything disrespectful in that.

  • Mel Yellow

    Black people hate Asians, especially if they do well or better than them. F*** Chandler!!!

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