Monday, October 8th, 2012 at 9:30 am  |  165 responses

Tyson Chandler Says Jeremy Lin Wasn’t Able to Run Knicks’ Offense


Now that Jeremy Lin is in Houston, former teammate Tyson Chandler claims that the young point guard didn’t know how to properly run New York’s offense. Reports Newsday: “The Knicks’ play at point guard wasn’t strong last season. Lin, Baron Davis, Toney Douglas, Mike Bibby and then-rookie Iman Shumpert all started at some point. Asked about Davis and Lin, who hadn’t started an NBA game before last season, Chandler said one was too banged up and the other too inexperienced. ‘Baron was hurt and Jeremy was a young point guard who was just learning, trying to learn and figure out an offense,’ Chandler said. ‘It was nothing against them and it was definitely nothing against Baron. Baron was hurt the whole year and giving us everything he had. Jeremy was a young point guard who was inexperienced, who brought a great light to the organization. But as far as being able to run the offense and putting players in the right position he just wasn’t there. We got some veteran point guards that are capable of doing that.’ Chandler was a big Lin fan and praised him repeatedly last season. But with Lin now a member of the Houston Rockets, the Knicks have moved on.”

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  • Phil

    The knicks are acting like a butthurt female that can’t let go! The NY press too! You wanna act like females then your gonna get treated like females. They wanna say lin is a scrub but why you still talking about him? If he was just a tiny piece of the team why can’t you let go? Obviously his d#$& was better than melo or amare’s because you still crave it from 2,000 miles away! The first step to recovery is stop sitting down when you pee!

  • Chris Bosh

    Does anybody want to have sex? I’m hard right now. Lebron? Dwyane? Anybody?

  • danpowers

    he talked about lin because he got asked about him. nobody called him a scrub. why r the knick headlines making you wine and bitch about anyway? not happy with your life? lack of real problems? inability to read properly?

  • aicomeback

    you act like the heat defense hasnt torn up moderately athletic point guards this is nothing new the fact that you hate lin getting attention is the only reason why this matters

  • kball

    I feel really, really bad to read to much comment from ‘so called’ ball fans. Yet, everyone seems to forget that there more than 5 bench players on every team which have had their own 7 game streak, I do believe had he been a black male from florida he would just be on a couple of highlights reels. Because there are players on the wizards, bucks, new orleans etc…. who had a good “couple’ of games, not seasons, games.

  • danpowers

    lol

  • danpowers

    too early to tell as this was just his second season. normally you dont hear any contorversy by young guys with few exceptions. you could say that lin is such a nice guy, but there are many people giving him like 50% of the blame for leaving the knicks by not signing the first rockets offer that the knicks could have been able to match and instead signed the further increased deal. i am not really sore about lin but there are many people who think bad about that move and not all of them are knicks fans.
    ps: chandler never said lin was useless or not good at all. whats the matter with all that bitching here? y’all didnt read the quote or what? cant be that hard

  • danpowers

    what things? that he brought light to the franchise? yes, really a punk move

  • Ugh

    How does that answer my question?

  • danpowers

    basketball facts arent relevant in here. i think basketball knowledge doesnt have any chance against the surging masses of angry lin-fanatics

  • http://twitter.com/Jzakoni Verified Account

    Top tier PG didnt suffer aginst the heat like Lin did. Lol, c’mon even Rubio had a triple double against the Heat. Lin aint no top tier dude.

  • danpowers

    that were single games and respect should be given to lin for that. just be realistic about this. these outings were not what to expect from him on a regular basis. key word: consistency. he will have a nice carreer, he is just not an elite point guard yet.

  • http://twitter.com/Jzakoni Verified Account

    I think Lin is better then Felton.. But I think Kidd would be that consistent PG… Too bad he’s a lil old

  • danpowers

    oh my. considering all this brain dead crybaby comments the knicks community really has to be glad about having lost lin. not because of lin himself, the kid is a nice player. but because of getting rid of the masses of bandwagon fans not knowing shit about the game at all.

  • danpowers

    lin brings more overall talent because of his size and scoring ability. but felton is better at finding players while taking care of the ball at the same time. the knicks desperately need that ball distribution and veteran leadership – more than they need scoring. so i think lin might be the better player but felton should prove to be the better fit.

  • Ugh

    What does Michael Phelps have to do with Lin being able to run isolation plays? He can run the pick and roll because there isn’t a pro player who can’t – it’s the simplest play in basketball. Tyson Chandler himself could run the P&R from the point guard position. There were two reasons the Knicks were right to let Lin and D’Antoni go.

    First, Melo is one of the most effective scorers on isolation plays in the NBA in the last thirty years. It would absolutely stupid to give that up for a popular point guard who throws the ball into the stands five times a game and can’t drive on his weak hand.

    Second, the pick and roll doesn’t win championships. You can’t name a team in the modern NBA who won a ring running that offense. D’Antoni and Sloan’s post-season records are testament to that, even with the incredibly talented teams they coached.

  • Ugh

    And I believe that Chandler said the problem with Lin was inexperience.

  • Ugh

    I just want to point out that Mike D’Antoni’s offense allowed Nate Robinson to score 41 points off the bench after not being in a game for months.

    Think about that.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Glad someone got that

  • danpowers

    what else do you think where lin’s negatively record setting turnovers came from. experience?

  • danpowers

    wasnt hard to get, good one, lol. but this article seems to attract certain people suffering some sort of content-illiteracy. in other words: dont expect too many people in here to get this one ;)

  • danpowers

    bitch please

  • Gigi G

    Chandler got the most allay-oop from JLin. Now he said JLin did not know how to run offense?!

    Where was the rookie offer? JLin lost the opportunity to be with the team America because there was not an offer from Knicks. Knicks failed its plan to make JLin cheaper (without a contract, JLin would be as cheap as Knicks planned). Thanks Houston. Go Rockets Go!

  • danpowers

    chandler received alley-oop passes from any point guard he played with so far. the knicks were ready to match the first rockets offer that wouldve been something like 5, 5, 9 mio. (dont remember the exact amount) but the news back then said that lins camp wasnt happy with the offer. houston increased it then, lin signed and went on to houston. that was the reason why many people reacted negatively on this.

    and youp, go rockets go… for the lottery. or where do you think will the rockets end up after getting rid of their main guys to be

  • ByAnyMeansNecessary

    How many 1st or 2nd year PGs in the league now are elite? Who said he was? He’s an above average PG. I saw all I needed to see to determine that after that run he went on. That’s not a fluke in the NBA. Guys don’t get lucky for that amount of time playing against the talent in the NBA. If anyone thinks that Raymond Felton and an old Jason Kidd who will be doing more teaching than playing is a huge upgrade over Lin, they’re kidding themselves.

  • ByAnyMeansNecessary

    No. It was disrespectful to talk about him as if he was just out there winging it. That was a punk move. He didn’t have a word to say about it to him while he was there winning games for them and the Garden was actually excited to watch the team play a watchable kind of offense. Much better than passing to Melo and everyone else watching.

  • Caboose

    Lin is simultaneously overhyped and over-hated. No, he’s not good at running an offense and excels mostly in iso situations. However, he is also a good scorer, decent passer, and a hard worker. I expect 18-6-3 on 38% shooting and 4.2 TO’s.

  • ByAnyMeansNecessary

    The only other PGs Chandler has received more alley oops from that I’ve seen is Chris Paul followed by Jason Kidd two seasons ago in Dallas. To be behind Chris Paul and Jason Kidd isn’t all that bad to me. He won’t be receiving much from Felton or an older Kidd (who will be on the bench more than on the floor at his age). He will now be getting all of his points from offensive rebounds. If he had thought it through, he would have kept his mouth shut. He better hope Melo, Amar’e, JR Smith and Felton miss a lot of shots. The entire Knicks organization has nothing to say but “Thank you” to Lin for what he did for them last season.

  • danpowers

    never said they were better than lin. just that what they do helps more at this point. when i first thought that the knicks would keep lin at any cost i was also concerned about chemistry. because lin needs shots too to be good and play out his whole potential. with guys like stat, melo and jr smith on the roster who are volume shooters this couldve become a problem. latest when shump returns. he aint selfish but also likes to slash n take shots. thats why i think lin leaving ny could really turn out well for ny or at least not hurt the team.

  • roscoe

    truth. he is fun to watch though.

  • danpowers

    so in late march and during april melo didnt take over and brought the same excitement that lin did? lins cinderella story was awesome, but melo being on fire was nothing short of that. melo earned player of the month honors which lin didnt, inter alia for turning the ball over way too often. so lin wasnt the only reason that the season was exciting for us knicks fans and it is also not true to point out anthony as just the bad guy who hurt the team. simply not true.

    actually knicks fans will kiss melos balls forever to make antoni leave the apple. even if antoni wouldve been successful we wouldnt have liked to keep him coz knicks fans want to see DDDefense. that melo and stat at times lack defensive commitment is a whole different story. that watchable offense was antoni’s system which always lets a point guard look good and inflates their numbers. even duhon had good numbers in this system, it made nate robinson have a 40point game before he disappeared on the bench. also nice thing to compare: felton averaging 17ppg and 9apg over 54games compared to lins 14ppg and 7apg during 25 games dont look really extraordinary. lin explosion was nice but chandler was talking about CONSISTENTLY running an offense. lins assist to turnover ratio during his 25 starts stood at 1,7 which ranked 40th among 44 point guards in the league who qualified to get into the sample which is the one of the most important stats to rank a point guards ability to run an offense.

    lin is also not even an average defender and at times looked like he didnt even compete against rondo having the game of his life or d williams lighting him up. or do you remember the game when chalmers solely defended lin, pressuring him at halfcourt? the heat didnt throw anything else at lin except a double hedge at screens. lins stat line in this game: 1-9 from the field, 8 turnovers and 3 assists.

    it was also clear that lins ppg would go down as anthony returned but there was no reason for his fg% to drop from 54% to 41% and his apg from 7,1 to 6apg. dont come up with melo iso ball, the knicks went back to that when lin went down, not instantly when melo returned. they just couldnt figure out how to play with each other. they put up a 8-9 record playing together and combined to lead the team to a 19-6 record without each other. so yes, lin wasnt actually able to mesh and meshing with your teams best scorer is your no.1 priority as a point guard. the numbers just prove chandler right and still dont say lin was or is a bad player.

  • danpowers

    im in with 15-7-4 on 44% and 3,1 TO’s

  • danpowers

    dislike on this one? lin fans seem to have a little problem with reality and facts ^^

  • danpowers

    could we build consensous to just call him Antoni, please? he doesnt really deserve the d in his name

  • Datkid

    @danpowers:disqus Lin is young. those turnovers would’ve gone down pretty soon. Lin would’ve been great for the knicks if they ACTUALLY wanted to win. but what they really want is to shovel the ball into melo so people can watch him jab step 80 times AND they can lose. Felton and Kidd can both do that really well.

  • danpowers

    the numbers speak against this except you expect melo to be hurt / out for most of the season. lin was really not able to mesh with melo. he could develop this chemistry if you give him a couple of seasons but the knicks need that glue guy at the point now who makes the team mesh and not in some years. lin would be a nice third option behind melo and stat but they need a consistent playmaker more than a third scorer as they still have jr smith and shump to score when he comes back.

    actually lins assist to turnover rating and pure point rating and turnover ratio look SO bad that it is not really probable to changer over only one summer. to turn your arguement around: the knicks would waste alot of player material if they would give lin the ball and watch him scoring off iso plays because this is when lin was at his best and the knicks dont run the antoni offense anymore.

    i just feel sorry for lin being on a team now that doesnt even has a shot at the playoffs.

  • The Philosopher

    As I tip my own cap…
    Told the masses that Lin is not a point guard.

  • dork

    Stop beating a dead horse! Too many talents, it was time to move on…

  • imswag

    this is nothing to do with facts, all @disqus_pjIQMFNqgq:disqus is saying Tyson is a punk because he didnt say the stuff while Jeremy was winning games. He only said it after Jeremey had lef. making him a punk

  • danpowers

    chandler got asked about lin and he answered. he didnt say lin was a bad player or that lin sucked, he also mentioned the positive impact of lin. that is just stating the obvious: lin was a nice player for ny but struggled to run the offense consistently. im slowly getting pissed off by all that stupidity and bitching about an objective statement. why should he have said it before if nobody asked him? he made a comparison between what lays ahead and what lays behind the knicks WHEN BEING ASKED ABOUT EXACTLY THAT. no reason to say one of the most upstanding guys in the nba made a punk move. smh

  • imswag

    did Tyson say Lin couldn’t run the offense when they were winning?

  • jumpman

    Damn, danpowers spent his whole day commenting on this article lol.

  • danpowers

    chandler just said back then that he was happy for lin that all this is happening to him because lin is a good guy. in this statement here above he says nothing contrary to this. n btw during linsanity when lin was winning he controlled the game pretty well despite his ton of turnovers during 8 games. this statement is about consistency. lin was not able to run the offense when the injured players returned to the lineup for the following 17 games and this is what its all about. nobody asked chandler about it back then so why should he have said anything? now that he got asked he said nothing else but 1+1=2. he also wishes lin the best. even lin himself knows that he struggled to run the offense which is why he puts alot of effort into working on his ballhandling during this offseason and watches film of other nba point guards. how the hell is what chandler said unfair criticism on lin in any way? the only bad line in all of this is the headline, written by slam. thats not what was coming out of chandlers mouth. is that so hard to understand?

  • Yi-Cheng Chen

    you r the one having problems with the rest of the world because deep inside as a knicks fan know that it’s a pain that Jlin is gone and that senior citizen team is in trouble this season. Period. and dun bite me back saying I am a Jlin fan because I am asian.

  • Yi-Cheng Chen

    lol. even if there was no twitter and instant information, there’s still television and radio. c’mon, lessen that Jlin hate of yours.

  • danpowers

    man i like lin. i rlly loved him during last season and i think he will have a nice carreer. tyson chandler said nothing else. there are some regulars here with a high basketball iq and an understanding of the game and the articles here that i respect. all of them relativating the statement and discussing lins performance by objective judgement. none of these oppose anything what ive said. actually most nba authors write nothing contrary. what you mean by “rest of the world” are just bandwagon fans. maybe they talk this rubbish because anything they know about lin are some random games they saw and some articles they read in their newspaper or business magazine or maybe there are actually asians who only root for him because they and him are asians. (dont piss on my leg now by calling me racist, i am a german and german fans who only love dirk because he happens to be german too root for him even though most of them dont know shit about hoops go on my nerves even more)
    lin making his way to houston was sad for us knick fans. but it doesnt really make a difference as we got veteran guys now running the team. felton+kidd arent overall better than lin but the way they play will fit the ny offense better than lins style of play.
    do you really want to tell me that lin is not turnover prone and that he is already able to constantly run an nba offense like a veteran? you could also argue that lin fans are sore about ny not matching the rockets offer because lin now plays on a team that has no chance at getting to the playoffs.

    if anybody is angry about tyson chandler just stating the facts then thats not because the person is asian or a lin fan. that has nothing to do with ethnicity or citizenship or fan colors. its just because this person doesnt understand the game and isnt able to properly read an article.

    if you want to prove me wrong, please go ahead and do so. tell me antonis system didnt inflate lins stats (which would make lin the first pg ever to play in that system without inflated stats), tell me he wasnt a turnover machine (he set a new turnover record during his starting job so an explanation for that, making smbdy else responsible would be interesting to read) tell me he was able to put melo and other guys into their comfort zones to make them score (which was also not the case as any number of that time proves but id also be thrilled to hear some new theory about it)

    why cant you just leave it at that he had a great great run, delivering the greatest cinderella story in recent basketball memory to us by growing above his potential and showing alot of heart? he will have a nice carreer. he is just not flawless and not yet able to successfully run a whole offense over a full season. if you cant get this and are still buying the hype, you really leave me wondering if youre a moron

  • http://twitter.com/Jzakoni Verified Account

    boo lin-fanatics

  • danpowers

    lol

  • danpowers

    the whole night lol

  • danpowers

    bitch please

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