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Tuesday, November 13th, 2012 at 10:05 am  |  85 responses

Kobe Bryant Thinks Lakers Will Be ‘Phenomenal Defensively’ Under Mike D’Antoni


Kobe Bryant doesn’t appear to be too concerned about head coach Mike D’Antoni’s (perhaps unfair) reputation as someone who doesn’t really care all that much about defense. In fact, Kobe seems to think the Los Angeles Lakers will thrive defensively under D’Antoni. From his Bean’s Facebook page: “It’s been a wild week to say the least. I’m happy to have closure and can’t wait to get to work with Coach D’Antoni.. spacing, ball movement. And despite the chatter, I believe we will be phenomenal defensively. I’m looking forward to getting started with him and his staff this week. Mamba out.”

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  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    because, Dwight. Not for any other reason.

  • keyon dooling

    Kobe also thinks he’s capable of shooting above 46% in a season. Neither of these will happen. (other one being that the Lakers will be “phenomenal defensively” under Pringles)

  • elmaar

    Kobe just made clear they gave no effort and basically tuned out Mike Brown

  • pposse

    kobe is such a baby..there has never been a star athlete as whiny as him. I can’t wait for things to go sour for this team and have him throw D’Antoni under the bus.

  • Adrian Chestnut

    Mamba out lol

  • FLIGHT 9

    I hope they average 110 points per game… A first round playoff exit is a BIG possibility…

  • spit hot fiyah

    that s#!t needs to stop

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    no it isn’t.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    he has done that before, 6 times.

  • Perry the PlatyPteranodon

    When Kobe retires, I genuinely hope he says “Mamba out.”

  • http://www.facebook.com/jun.kaviedes Jun Kaviedes

    I know right, just like when He threw Phil under the bus after the sweep by Dallas and the way he threw Mike Brown under the bus after the pathetic start to the season.. oh wait, none of that happened.

  • justin05

    The defensive end of the floor is all about effort. Hustle. Idk if Gasol and Jamison can step up enough for our defense to be “phenomenal”. Nash/Blake is a liability on defense as well. Kobe slacks off a lot and Artest is not a spring chicken so we will see. It’s all about how much they want it, could come back to hurt on the offensive side of the floor too

  • Max

    How is this whining?

  • pposse

    just like he stopped playing in the second half of game 7 against the suns, just like he brought back the fact that smush parker was his teammate so he wasnt MVP, just like he was looking at houses in Chicago cause he wanted to get traded, just like @elmaar so eloquently states beneath that he made it clear that no effort was made and a Mike Brown tune out happened..the list goes on and on bruh

  • shockexchange

    3rd person talk from Mamba? A de facto co-sign for the Shock Exchange. Apparently the Shock Exchange has been influening Mamba as well.

  • pposse

    just like ‘the mamba death stare’ which precedes the Mike Brown firing by like 12 hours cmon..coincidence young watson? I think not!

  • shockexchange

    Yeah keep dreaming Horry Jr … (i) Steve Nash couldn’t guard a bear in a phone booth and (ii) According to Stephen A. Smith “Steve Blake who shouldn’t even
    be on the Lakers yet alone in the NBA.” Ouch!

  • bike

    Can this team get any more bizarre? Sounds like D’Antoni won’t be in LA for a couple of weeks and let’s suppose they win every game between now and then…

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    he’s coaching on Friday.

  • shockexchange

    … which makes the timing of the Brown firing all the more suspicious. L.A. fired him just prior to a stretch of very “win-a-ble” games against weak competition. Someone wanted Brown gone before he could accumulate the political capital the comes with winning.

  • Redd

    This will be hilarious, Kobe is going to look foolish. Outside of Metta and Dwight there’s no Doubt.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003246310246 Jason Carter

    what else is he spose to say?

  • Junior Taylor

    Is he the same guy that swore the Lakers were going to win the ’11 series vs Dal when they were down 3-0? Come on son…..I know that supreme confidence is one of the things that make Kobe a legendary player but you have to draw a line somewhere. Antoni had decent-very good defenders in PHX (Bell/Marion) yet they still ranked near the bottom every year defensively and this Laker team has one of the oldest backcourt in a league full of great backcourts (hell…their conference is full of great backcourts- SA, OKC, DEN)

  • LakeShow

    When you rank at the bottom defensively and the top offensively, the defensive rating is skewed. Pace man. Pace.

  • LakeShow

    How in the sam freaking hell do you think a team with Kobe Bryant, Steve Nash, and Dwight Howard…. With Pau Gasol is a first round exit?
    You sound like a moron.

  • LakeShow

    Yes. Like I said yesterday to Taylor, Dwight is a good defensive team.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    @juniortaylor:disqus actually, the worst ranking any of those Mike D’Antoni coached defenses were was 17th. Which is middle of the pack.

  • Junior Taylor

    So you deep down inside believe that PHX team was good defensively and their offensive style was the reason why they were so bad defensively? How about the fact that the Knicks went from being a terrible defensive team with Antoni to become a respectable to very good defensive squad with Woodson? It’s obvious that Antoni doesn’t place enough value on defense and anyone that isn’t a “fan” of the Lakers most likely agrees with that assessment.

  • Junior Taylor

    You’re right…my fault. Still, the Suns were never able to get stops on a consistent basis and that alone in my eyes makes you a bad defensive team.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    they had Amar’e Stoudemire and Boris Diaw guarding the Rim. Not Dwight Howard.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    the Knicks defense before D’Antoni quit/got fired was ranked 6th in the league.

  • Sergio

    Question? If you hate Kobe so much, why do you know everything about him.

  • robb

    I don’t think they’ll thrive defensively at all, but at this point the best thing we Lakers fans can do is to support D’Antoni and stick together. There’s enough pressure on his shoulders already. Let’s do our part and hope for the best. No booing or “we want Phil” chants please.

  • pposse

    Question? If you kno what i am saying to be true, then why do you like him? I know enough about Kobe cause the media constantly reports about him and his silly antics. They try to make Lebron’s ‘Decision’ worse than Kobe demanding a trade or Lebron’s damn near triple double against the celtics (when on the cavs) a sign of giving up when Kobe shoots the ball twice in the second half of game 7 against the suns…but then next year the playoff promo’s on tnt and abc have Kobe hitting that buzzer beater in that same series he lost against the Suns. Kobe’s game is not dramatic he is..just callling it like it is.

  • LakeShow

    See below.

  • Junior Taylor

    So how exactly are the Lakers going to defend the perimeter with a 34yr old Kobe, 38yr old Nash and 33yr old Artest? You can not expect Howard to erase every single mistake the Lakers make on defense, do you? Yeah…Howard carried a team made up of mostly bad defenders in ORL to the Finals but everyone forgets that they had good perimeter defenders in Peaches (Mickael Pietrus and CLee) to throw at cats like Bron and Kobe.

  • Junior Taylor

    I may be wrong but wasn’t the guy that is currently coaching the Knicks (Woodson) on the staff with Antoni? That may be the reason why their D ranked so high.

  • LakeShow

    Bean and Artest are on par with most 2,3 position combo’s in the L defensively. They might even be better than most in playoff competition when it’s all on the line. The Lakers haven’t guarded the PG position in years…
    That’s how.

  • LakeShow

    Bean and Artest are on par with most 2,3 position combo’s in the L defensively. They might even be better than most in playoff competition when it’s all on the line. The Lakers haven’t guarded the PG position in years…

    That’s how.

  • LakeShow

    Didn’t mean to send this one here…

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/ORL/2011.html – the same way that Orlando team with Jameer Nelson, Jason Richardson, JJ Reddick, and Hedo Turkoglu finished 3rd in defense.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    that really may be the reason, idk. i was just saying, the defense wasn’t horrible under D’Antoni once he got a good rim defender, not Amar’e Stoudemire.

  • RayJr

    We’ll see tonight. Huge game against the SpurMs(yes I hate SA). If Lakers can hold SA to 40% or less shooting and get the W, that would be a great step forward defense wise.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000166716900 Anthony Darnello Taylor Jr.

    another unrelated note: Lebron also had a better game at the garden than Kobe did too. 55 10 and 9 (i believe) vs. Kobe’s 61 pts and they rave over that stuff every year Kobe is in the Garden and barely mention what LBJ did.

  • LakeShow

    Why does tonight matter? D’Antoni won’t be coaching till Friday at least.

  • keyon dooling

    above 47%** . overrated bum

  • RayJr

    Because SA shoots lights out and it would be an accomplishment to hold them to a low percentage without really even having a coach.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    you know, it totally defeats your sh*tty unfounded criticism when you have to come back and correct it to sound better. but good try.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    but that doesn’t matter. the system will be completely different by friday.

  • shockexchange

    By the end of the year, Horry Jr will be back at 40% on 30 shots/game and the stans will go “Look at how many points Horry Jr scored … He’s just like Jordan.”

  • RayJr

    Defense doesn’t change though.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    what do you mean defense doesn’t change? have you ever played basketball at a competitive level? defense will change (concepts, focuses, situations). I’m not debating with you if it will or won’t change, i’m telling you, it will change.

  • RayJr

    Yes you are right about defenses changing in grade school and college. But this is the NBA where the only defenses really ran are man to man or a 2-3 zone where primary focuses are on being able to guard against an effective pick and roll, being able to know when to go on help defense, and getting defensive rebounds. THATS IT. Since Shaq has left, Lakers teams have had problems with those aspects of defense.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    You can’t honestly think Man to Man defense is played the same way by everyone….
    .
    .Where they force a ball handler or prefer to force a ball handler is different on every team
    .Where the help comes from, is different on every team.
    .When teams double is different on every team.
    .How teams guard back to the basket post player is different on every team
    .
    Why in the blue sh*t do you think Chicago (Tom Thibodeau) is known as a defensive genius? Because he runs a really cool zone? lol – think harder, the NBA is much much much much more complex than High School & College. Which means, the defenses are too.
    .
    Why did you think they keep creating rules to make scoring easier? If defense doesn’t change, they wouldn’t need to amend anything. Scoring would be just like it was in 1972.

  • LakeShow

    So glad you take the time and effort to shut people mouths. Someones gotta do it.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    LOL i doubt you felt this way before this season and all the irrational Lakers hate drowned out the Lakers love.

  • RayJr

    Nevermind…it’s like talking to a brick wall with you lol. I’ll just sum up my posts by saying I HOPE THE LAKERS CAN PLAY WELL AGAINST THE SPURS PICK AND ROLL AND REBOUND WELL…THAT IS ALL THANK YOU

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    pretty simply, it’s like talking to someone who likes people to make sense. which you haven’t done here, other than obviously wishing the Lakers do well.

  • LakeShow

    Well any time I agree with you, which is maybe more often than you think, i’m glad you have the time and effort. The opposite, and I wish like anything you had 7 children and 3 jobs so you would shut your pie hole!

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Lol! I’m 6 kids and 2 jobs away from getting there. Really though, I appreciate the respect man.

  • Conor

    Maybe if you had watched the games, you’d realize that unlike LeBron, Kobe wasn’t wasn’t chasing every rebound he could from his teammates.

  • Conor

    And that the performance was both more impressive & historically relevant.

  • LakeShow

    You earned it.

  • babalo

    I dont think there is big difference or variation in defenses from team to team. Games are still played with 5 on 5 with same rectangular court.I can only think of 2 instances when you have to double a post player.Before or after he receives the ball. Or when he has it,either when he starts to make a dribble or move then force him to his least strong scoring pos. and force him to make a bad decision with a shot or pass.Cant think of anything else.

    Where the help defense comes may depend on where the post player is. From the weak side help or strong side.

  • rictor

    i’d like to see how this ends, the lake show with the antoni. Until then you can keep your mouth open.

  • LakeShow

    Consider these boots shivering.

  • LakeShow

    Why do you think that?

    He has never averaged that many shots per game in his career nor gotten even close to a shooting percentage like that.

    I’m beginning to think you might not be giving the Bean a fair shake…

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    If it were as simple as you people seem to think it is, the best defenses in the league wouldn’t follow around the best defensive coaches. There is a huge variation in defensive systems from team to team. If there wasn’t, again, it would be like it was in the 70s. Early 80s, and sooner. Defenses now are incredible complex. You apparently have no idea.

  • http://www.facebook.com/shooting.guard.319 Shooting Guard

    Sure, because of : Dwight, and can he quit saying mamba out..

  • danpowers

    the lakers might be fine defensively, but that wont have anything to do with dantoni. a team with howard and mwp is automatically a nice defensive squad. they wont get any close to what this team could potentially be on defense.

  • danpowers

    not for the better hehe

  • Bored

    D’Antoni

  • shockexchange

    Interesting choice of words … Did Mike Brown get “a fair shake?”

  • pposse

    he wasnt chasing any rebound cause he had exactly 0 for that whole game. Plus a whopping 3 assists. ill take 55 10 and 9 any day over 61 0 and 3

  • shockexchange

    An interesting choice of words … Did Mike Brown get “a fair shake?”

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    it might. they are like 18th in defense right now.

  • LakeShow

    This season? No.

    Funny how you ignore my question, and instead present a straw man argument about Bean’s shooting.
    What’s the problem? Can’t defend your false comment?

  • LakeShow

    **Crickets**

  • shockexchange

    The Shock Exchange went back and checked Horry Jr’s stats. The most shot attempts he averaged during the regular season was 26.9/game (’05-’06 season) … it prolly would have been 6 shots/game higher if the refs hadn’t bailed him out. His lowest lowest FG% was 43.0% and 43.3% in ’11-’12 and ’04-’05, respectively … still beneath a “professional.”

  • LakeShow

    I remember that year. 35+ppg from Bean. Amazing year.
    Was Allen Iverson’s career below “professional”?
    Your too easy.
    Try using real arguments with real facts.

  • shockexchange

    Why bring A.I. into this? “A.I. did it too … I wasn’t the only one.” You sure you’re not Horry, Jr in disquise? “Shaq did it too. I wasn’t the only one. I shoulda done like Shaq and paid her off. Shaq’s paid out ’bout $1 million to women.” SMH

  • LakeShow

    Answer the GOT DAMN question you lil punk.

    Was A.I.’s career below professional?

    You said that Kobe shooting around 43% is “below professional.” I just want to know if you view other players that shoot a similar percentage as being below professional.

    Take for example these players FG%:

    Earl Monroe: Average: 46% Worse: 40%

    Reggie Miller: Average: 47% Worse: 43%

    Jerry West: Average 47% Worse: 41%

    All similar to or worse than Mr. Bryant… Yet they are all time legends.
    So AI, Kobe, Jerry West, Reggie Miller, and Earl Monroe are all “below professional” to you? Nice man…

    Wow, somehow you still “SHOCK” me every day with your stupidity.

  • shockexchange

    The results for Horry Jr that I mentioned are “beneath a professional.” After the NBA became more entertainment oriented, it tried to protect certain players it deemed as “stars.” If he had not been carried by the officials, (i) at least 6 shots/game would have been recorded as “missed FGs”, (ii) his shot attempts/game would have been around 33/game and (iii) his FG% around 35%. That said, Horry Jr’s stats – his entire career, in fact – has been distorted by a “halo effect,” while A.I.’s, Millers’, Monroe’s and West’s have not been.

  • LakeShow

    Oh I see now. Makes sense.
    **Dies Laughing**

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000166716900 Anthony Darnello Taylor Jr.

    well he had his hands full taking the shots

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