Thursday, November 22nd, 2012 at 9:00 am  |  96 responses

New York Knicks Already Starting MVP Push for Carmelo Anthony


by Marcel Mutoni@marcel_mutoni

The first month of the season has yet to be completed, and the campaign to get Carmelo Anthony the first MVP award of his NBA career is already out in full force.

Most of the propaganda is emanating from the New York Knicks’ locker room, where teammates feel that ‘Melo is a completely different (and better) player this season.

The squad’s most famous fan, for what that’s worth, is also totally in the bag for Anthony.

Per the NY Post and Yahoo! Sports:

Tyson Chandler is banging the drums for Anthony’s MVP candidacy, saying Tuesday night he should be “at the top of the race’’ because of the Knicks’ record. [...] “He’s a completely different player this year,” Chandler said. “I think the USA (Olympic) experience did wonders for him being around those guys. I think he’s hungry to take it to the next level and win … He’s been at an incredibly high level his entire career as far as individual accomplishments,’’ Chandler said. “He’s ready to take it to the next level of leadership and winning. He’s doing all the little things it takes to actually win, practicing hard, focused on shootaround, playing defense, communicating on the basketball floor. He’s a real leader out there and it’s fun to watch.’’

Anthony credits Knicks coach Mike Woodson for bringing a more disciplined mindset to the team since he replaced Mike D’Antoni in March. “I know I can do [play defense],” Anthony said. “It’s not a matter of me not being able to do it. It was me just saying, ‘OK, I’m going to do it now.’ We have a coach that stays on me about it. There wasn’t a defensive system since I came to New York, but with Coach Woodson it was just a matter of putting our system in, having a full training camp.”

Carmelo Anthony and the Knicks are off to a tremendous start this season (8-2, giving them the best record in the Eastern Conference.) Not to be a buzzkill, but that’s all it is: a start.

New York still has to play 72 more games, to say nothing of the possible chemistry issues down the line. Serious MVP chatter — not just for Carmelo Anthony, but for anyone else in the NBA — is still a long ways away.

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  • LobCity

    LeBron, Durant, CP3, Kobe etc. deserve to be in the conversation….Melo is averaging 24 and 7 w/ no D….They might want to wait more than a month before getting him in any conversation.

  • http://twitter.com/iskolares Edcel Ceniza

    couldn’t agree more. the NBA just wanted to get out of the way of the “fan rage” due to the decision so they gave the award to Rose :)

  • Drig’r

    Um………No D??? If Kobe deserves to be in the discussion, then so does Melo. He’s showing more effort on D than the last 1&1/2 seasons in NYK combined!

  • k

    rondo

  • Bored

    someone has not been watching the games this year. by someone i mean you dude

  • Bored

    i shoot the same way nearly. its from trying to shoot like a pro from a young age. shooting over your head when youre not strong enough is the main cause i believe.

  • Bored

    Ronnie Brewer is great

  • Bored

    pffft

  • http://twitter.com/StroopWaffles Stroops

    Melo has zero chance at MVP. LeBron will have a MUCH better season than him and already is. If anyone else will win it, it’ll probably be Durant. Melo will just average his usual high points per game on a low shooting percentage. But hes playing much better this year. Not nearly MVP material though. Dont kid yourself. I wouldnt mind to see him win it though I love Melo.

  • http://twitter.com/StroopWaffles Stroops

    Going to be hilarious when Amare comes back and ruins their team again. Too funny how they’re always 50x better when Amare is out. Must suck for him to sit there watching how much better they clearly are without him.. lol. Poor guy

  • O

    Remember when heads was saying Amare should be in the MVP convo in his first season with the Knicks and they were winning?! Melo is having a hell of a start to the season and playing good D, but we have to let the year play out and see if he’s still worthy.

  • http://twitter.com/StroopWaffles Stroops

    Also Melo is pathetic when he talks about defense… dude gets D’antoni fired and then now that he has a new coach hes like oh ok I’ll actually try now. I know I can play defense I juts didnt feel like it until D’antoni was fired. This league is turning into a bunch of diva’s. Its pathetic what happened to real basketball

  • Dagger

    As long as there are significantly better players on teams with equal (or, eventually, better) records, Melo won’t sniff an MVP award.

  • pposse

    laughable statement

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Only way he gets it is if the Knicks end up with a better record than the Heat and Thunder–even then, I’d still give it to LeBron. That being said, he’s having a great season and the Knicks are winning, so praise isn’t unwarranted.

  • http://twitter.com/ecvill11 Edmond Villanueva

    Is he shooting or passing?

  • Datkid

    LBJ is the only player who can lock up both Derrick Rose and Pau Gasol lol… saying he can lock up elite players from 1-5 isn’t an exaggeration. it’s the truth. The only Big men Lebron probably can’t guard are dirk and dwight. The only PG’s he can’t guard are CP3 and Dwill. So only the best of the best of the best realistically “give him buckets”

  • Jaaay

    He has to get past LeBron first but he’s definitely a second choice.

  • Drig’r

    Actually, he stopped Pau for 2 possessions. Pretty sure Pau would score over Bron 6 times outta 10 in the post.

  • russian guy

    I don’t see CP3 winning it,not because he couldn’t,but the way he handles the games.He tries to get the offense going and get others involved during the first 40 minutes and dominates the last 8.Also,unlike Rondo,he doesn’t push his assist stats by passiing up open shots or even layups sometimes.Maybe if the Clippers win the most games in the league.

  • ByAnyMeansNecessary

    They gave Rose the award because he carried the offense almost by himself of a 1st place 62 win team that was predicted to finish 4th in the Conference that season.

  • pops

    Your last sentence doesn’t really mean much anymore considering 3 of them are on the same team. Now if they were still each on separate teams than that would have some meaning.

  • danpowers

    his scoring and fg% would be way up if refs would just call the half of the fouls he is drawing this season. i dunno whats wrong there but ive never seen refs refusing to give him calls like this b4

  • 23

    Rose had a good season that year, obviously. But that was clearly a snub to LeBron for the decision. The media had labeled Rose the Anti-LeBron. Humbled, clutch, young, hometown kid. Basically everything they thought LeBron wasn’t. Look at last REGULAR season. Rose-less bulls got it done against some good teams. His supporting cast wasn’t that bad. Plus that team was VERY VERY well coached.

  • 23

    Melo is not in LeBron/wades class. How many times has he lead his team into a deep playoff run?

  • robb

    Nobody’s at Lebron’s level but Melo’s been playing better than Wade

  • LobCity

    umm….First of all, my D comment was regarding Melo. You’re making the assumption that by critiquing Melo’s D that the players I mentioned play good D. That’s not the case, I mentioned those players because they contribute more to their teams success. Second, the Knick’s success appears to be a product of the new players more than Melo. What else in new with Melo? Unless you’re suggesting this new “effort” is the key to their success? Lastly, “effort” is nice, still doesn’t mean you play good, SMART D.

  • LobCity

    Clever……If you think Melo deserves to be in the MVP conversation then someone has not been watching CP3, Durant, Lebron and Kobe this year. By someone I mean you.

  • Drig’r

    I’m arguably the biggest Kobe homer on here. Kobe has not played very good defense for most games this season. He’s been passable at best. And that’s because he doesn’t put effort in just like the rest of the Lakers. Melo’s just like Kobe in that regard. He’s not Tony Allen level defensive player but when he works hard, he’s an above average defender who can defend 2-4 quite well.

    I have only watched 4 games of the Knicks and Melo not ballstopping like he used to and driving the ball to the hoop has done wonders to the Knicks’ spacing issues. He’s also passing the ball better. Melo has benefited from the ridiculous long range shooting the team currently has JUST LIKE LeBron.

    He’s not the front-runner but he deserves to be in the MVP talks. Esp. if he leads the team to a better record than the Heatles.

  • Drig’r

    Tell me why Kobe deserves to be in the MVP discussion while Melo shouldn’t.

  • LobCity

    Again, I never said Kobe was good at D, that was the main point of my previous post. The players I mentioned were more valuable overall (IMO).

  • LobCity

    I don’t even like Kobe. But I do recognize that his play impacts the success and failure of his team significantly. Therefore making him VALUABLE. If you ask me, I see it as LeBron’s award with CP3 right behind him and KD in that same conversation. I merely added to Kobe to signify how far back I think Melo is in the discussion, again, in my opinion. So if you think Melo and Kobe are on the same level this season, fine. But I think both are far behind the LeBron, CP3, and KD so far. The biggest issue with even mentioning him is that it’s only been a month.

    I respect people’s opinions, but I have the right completely disagree. That’s all.

  • ByAnyMeansNecessary

    The shock factor of what Rose did was the main reason why he won the award over anything. Not The Decision. The Bulls beat the Heat all 3 times they played that season and they had a great record against the other good/great teams in the league while the Heat struggled against the other great teams. While The Decision may have played a part in it, Rose’s play was the biggest reason he won the award. If Dwight Howard had led the Magic to the best record in the conference, he would have won the award. Had LeBron and Wade learned how to play together faster and had a better record than the Bulls, Bron would have won it. What gets lost is the Bulls record with Rose last season…32-7. Some folks talk as if their record without him was better than their record with him. It’s easy to beat good teams without your star during the regular season especially with the wild schedule they played last season. So many factors come into play during the regular season that don’t come into play during the playoffs. We saw the real Bulls without Rose during the playoffs. In the playoffs against the 8th seed they lost. Rose makes them the best regular season team in the East capable of challenging the Heat in the Conference Finals. Without him, they’re a 1st round exit type of squad. They can be as well coached as possible, but without their superstar, they’re nothing but a good regular season team who can’t score the ball enough to win in the postseason.

  • ByAnyMeansNecessary

    And that wasn’t just a good season from him…it was a great season. 25 points, almost 8 assists, 4 rebounds.

  • 23

    ” It’s easy to beat good teams without your star during the regular season”. That statement makes your whole paragraph worthless. Don’t care how possible it is, or more likely during a lockout year, it is never easy.

  • 23

    I was talking career wise. Melo can’t touch them. But melo has been playing better than wade, although I think its clear that wade is declining due to battling injuries .

  • 23

    It was a great season statistically for rose. But if LeBron put up those numbers, it would be considered a disappointment. The bar for LeBron is higher for LeBron because he is the best, player on earth. His team could get passed new York last playoffs, but I think they lose to Indiana. The bulls, EVEN WITH ROSE, don’t stand a chance to win a title while LeBron is in the east.

  • ByAnyMeansNecessary

    The Heat without LeBron would still be a top 3 team in the East capable of winning a championship built around a healthy D-Wade and Chris Bosh. The Bulls without Rose can’t get past the 1st round.

  • ByAnyMeansNecessary

    It is easy in the regular season. Teams playing 3 games in 3 days are usually tired and worn out on that 3rd night. It can be easy to beat them. We see great teams get blown out sometimes by bad teams without any stars let alone superstars. It happens. Injuries, guys sitting out for various reasons, little time for rest, all of these factors come into play during the regular season. During the playoffs, playing one team every other night or so, you zone in on a team and 9 times out of 10, the best team wins.

  • 23

    You are missing my point. Without LeBron, the heat are still a good team, IF WADE MAGICALLY STAYED HEALTHY. But they aren’t serious contenders to win it all. LeBron makes them the favorites. Chicago, EVEN WITH A FULLY HEALTHY ROSE, is not a championship contender. LeBron makes his team championship favorites. Rose only makes his team a conference finalist, but not guaranteed.

  • ByAnyMeansNecessary

    They are serious contenders to win it all with a healthy D-Wade. That is the point. With or without LeBron, they would be contenders. Without him, they would be in the group with the Lakers, Grizzlies, Clippers, Spurs and Thunder. With LeBron, they’re on another level by themselves. With Rose, Chicago is a top 4 team in the league capable of challenging the Heat in the Conference Finals. That makes them a contender. Conference finalists are championship contenders.

  • 23

    I guess that’s where we disagree. I don’t thinking making a conference finals makes you a legit championship contender. I don’t even think making a finals makes you a SERIOUS contender(see 2007 Cavaliers). They were not serious contenders at all. And a team where you have a PG who attempts to carry the load single handedly has no LEGITIMATE shot at a ring. That’s why i don’t consider them serious contenders. Rose doesn’t have it in him to successfully drag a team to a ring. He relied too much on athleticism. He was not like DWill who had the skillset to maximize boozers potential. And his shot selection is questionable at times. I understand he is by far the bulls best player, but I doubt buy that he has to do everything. But he only CHOOSES to do so. because hes not capable of making his teammates better like other elite PGs.

  • ByAnyMeansNecessary

    Being one of the 4 teams left out of 30 makes a team a championship contender to me. Going by your definition, only one team is a contender and that’s whatever team wins. People always say something can’t happen until it does. I would have loved to watch Rose and the Bulls go at Miami again in the Conference Finals again if Rose hadn’t have had an unfortunate injury. What plagued Rose was the incompetency on the offensive end by his teammates in that series. His efficiency was off because he was the only player capable of creating for himself and his teammates. Boozer was stealing money that whole season with how soft he played. That’s not on Rose. That’s on Boozer. He does have to do mostly everything on offense. This is a guy who had to be forced into scoring by his high school and college coaches. Coach Cal had to make him shoot in the NCAA Championship game of all games. So he’s not playing the way he does because he chooses to do so. He’s doing it because he has no perimeter help offensively and he has a center whose main job is to rebound and defend and another teammate who is an undersized soft power forward. Rip isn’t a creator, he’s a finisher. Deng plays hard and is a good two way player but he needs to be set up just like Rip. That leaves Rose with the responsibility of having to start and finish plays most of the time. I strongly disagree with the idea that Rose is incapable of making his teammates better. The only top PGs who do it better are Rondo, Paul, Williams and Nash. If you’re saying he doesn’t do it as well as those 4, I agree. But there’s not another top PG I didn’t mention who does it better than Rose. If you’re looking for a PG who chooses to try to do too much at times, look in Oklahoma City.

  • Drig’r

    Oh. My bad then. Even I think the MVP race is gonna be just like last season.

  • Bored

    i just meant, you saying Melo has played no D is obviously something you have missed because he has been. i agree with it being too early to talk about MVP’s though.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    no they wouldn’t. you know that.

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