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Wednesday, November 28th, 2012 at 8:57 am  |  59 responses

Post Up: Just Enough

The Sixers and Pacers get by against the Mavs and Lakers.

by Peter Walsh / @goinginsquad

Just ‘Cause:

Danny Ainge NAILS Mario Elie in the face with the ball. I could not stop watching this and laughing. Fast forward to the 1:00 mark for the good stuff…

Sixers 100 (9-6), Mavs 98 (7-8)

Philly had plenty of chances to put the Mavs away and grab an easy dub but the Mavs kept fighting back and this one came down to the wire. The Sixers were finally able to create some  space with a 10-0 run in the fourth triggered by multiple Dallas turnovers. To cap off the run, Jrue Holiday stole the ball, drove the floor and hit a driving Thaddeus Young for the bucket plus one to give Philly a nine-point lead. VC finally ended the run with a three-pointer and the Mavs were able to cut the lead to five. Thad Young hit a mid-range jumper to make the gap seven and the Sixers forced another turnover on the ensuing possession but couldn’t capitalize. Instead, Carter responded with a clutch three to make it a four-point game. Vinsanity then hit a layup with 37 seconds to play and all of a sudden, the Mavs found themselves within two points with thirty seconds to go. The Sixers failed to score another bucket and with 2 seconds left, O.J. Mayo went to the stripe after being fouled with a chance to win the game. Surprisingly, Mayo missed both and a last second effort by Jae Crowder fell short sending Dallas home for their fifth road loss of the season.

Quick Hitters:

– Evan Turner scored 22 points (8-12, 2-4 from three), grabbed 4 boards and dished out 4 assists. He has been shooting the ball much, much better from beyond the arc this season.

– Jrue Holiday scored 18 and handed out 7 assists but also turned the ball over 6 times. He’s definitely stepped up his game this season but needs to cut down those TO numbers.

– Carter finished with 15, Kaman with 20 and O.J. Mayo with a quiet 11.

– Elton Brand made his return to Philly after falling victim to the amnesty clause. He was given a nice ovation when he hit the court.

Suns 91 (7-8), Cavs 78 (3-12)

The Cavs woes continue. While they kept it close and held a lead in the third, the rigor of playing their fourth game in five nights eventually caught up to them and the Suns were able to pull away for an easy victory. With three and a half minutes remaining in the third, Cleveland took a 59-57 lead on a Dion Waiters layup. That was the last gasp for Cleveland though as Phoenix went on a 14-0 run thanks to buckets from Mike Beasley, Jared Dudley and Luis Scola. The Suns took a 71-59 lead into the fourth and the Cavs only scored 19 points over the final 12 minutes to drop their twelfth game of the year.

Quick Hitters:

– Anderson Varaejo continues his stellar play. Last night, the big man went for 20 points and 18 boards and was called the, “best center in the East” by coach Byron Scott.

– Goran Dragic scored 19 and handed out 9 assists and Mike Beasley finished with 15.

– Dion Waiters scored 16 on 7-20 shooting.

Rockets 117 (7-7), Raptors 101 (3-12)

Behind 24 points and a career-high 12 assists from James Harden, the Rockets notched their seventh win of the season. Houston dominated for much of the game, leading by as much as 27 thanks to 53 percent shooting from the field. The Rockets took a 61-51 lead into the break and kept their foot on the gas to open the third quarter. Harden hit his second three of the game then Lin turned a steal into an assist to Harden for a fast-break dunk. Harden then hit another three that made the lead 18. By the end of the third quarter, the Rockets had hit 12 three-pointers. In the fourth, the Raptors made a small run to cut the lead to 15 but after a Lin steal and dunk put an end to their run, the Raptors had no hope of making a comeback.

Quick Hitters:

– Lin finished with 16 points and 10 assists, Patrick Patterson scored 22 and Omer Aski was huge inside with 13 points and 18 boards.

– Terrence Ross scored a career-high 19 points off the bench.

– Toronto has lost six straight in Houston.

– Houston scored a season-high 38 points in the third quarter.

Wolves 97 (6-7), Kings 89 (4-10)

Kevin Love was in straight beast mode last night snatching a thus far NBA-best 24 rebounds to go along with 23 points. After missing the first nine games of the season, Kevlar looks to be back in form which should have the rest of the NBA on notice. During last night’s game, the Wolves needed every bit of Love’s effort as the Kings hung around for much of the game and cut it to three in the fourth after an Isaiah Thomas three-point play. In typical Sacramento fashion, they couldn’t capitalize on their momentum and Love hit a seemingly impossible shot as the shot clock expired to give the Wolves an insurmountable six-point lead.

Quick Hitters:

– Sacramento didn’t attempt a free throw until four minutes into the third quarter. Yikes.

– Reke Evans had another strong game with 20 points, 7 boards, 6 assists, 2 steals and 2 blocks. Cheering for that dude.

– Luke Ridnour scored 18 and dished out 5 assists, Andrei Kirilenko scored 14 and Nikola Pekovic scored 16 and grabbed 8 boards.

Pacers 79 (7-8), Lakers 77 (7-8)

An ugly and at times unwatchable game that saw: neither team shoot 40 percent, 38 combined turnovers, 30 combined assists and 155 missed shots was thankfully ended in regulation by Goerge Hill who hit a beautiful shot over Dwight Howard with 0.1 seconds left on the clock. Despite battling the flu, Kobe still dropped 40 and hi s three-pointer with 24 seconds remaning tied the game up. On the next possession, Hill let the clock bleed before manuvering around Pau Gasol and hitting the game-winner over Howard. Are the Lakers going to pick things up?

Quick Hitters:

– Last night’s 40-point showing was the 114th of Kobe’s career.

– Hill finished with 17 points and four blocks.

– At one point, the Pacers fell into a 1-23 slump and played over twelve minutes scoring just one bucket.

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  • KipSmithers

    Glad to see Patterson playing well.

  • Drig’r

    These games are prime examples of why guys who say everytime Kobe shoots more than X number of times, LAL lose.

    It’s because nobody shows up that he shoots! :X

    That game was pathetic all-round. LA backcourt minus Kobe : 54 minutes, 1/12, 1 point.

    LA 3pt shooting minus Kobe : 1/17 or something.

    LA FT shooting minus Kobe : less than 50%…..

    that should NEVER happen :X

    I’m pissed off btw……..

  • http://twitter.com/AjpDos Allen Powell

    Danny Ainge did that on purpose. But he was so slick about it he left just enough doubt to avoid trouble.

  • http://twitter.com/AjpDos Allen Powell

    Despite all the evidence to the contrary people still believe Kobe only shoots a lot because he is forced into it. At this point there is no need to discuss it further. Sometimes he has to shoot to carry the team and many times he does it because that is what he wants to do.

  • Drig’r

    The former is a more common feature of Lakers basketball than the latter. That’s all I was trying to convey. I was angry. You worded it better lol

  • http://twitter.com/stepfdelaghetto Stepfan Raiford

    Terrance Ross in the Dunk Contest please.

  • Dagger

    In the 2008 Olympics, Kobe shot 24 more times (48-104) than the next player (Lebron, 50-83). Kobe attempted nearly as many 3′s as Melo had shots. The source: http://www.usabasketball.com/seniormen/2008/stats/USA.HTM.

    Whatever you say about Kobe’s place on his Lakers team, those Olympic stats suggest that Kobe’s shot attempts have little to do with the quality of his teammates. Sometimes Kobe shoots a lot because he has to; sometimes because that’s his function in the offense. But many times he shoots a lot because he wants to, and it has historically kept the Lakers from being as great as they could be.

  • Caboose

    1. Kobe played a good game, but that’s closer to the shooting percentage I think we’ll see this year. LA should improve with Nash back.
    2. I’m glad Lance is finally getting some burn. Anyone catch how much better David West is playing this year than last year?
    3. Granger is underrated. The Pacers are a mess without him.
    4. ANDERSON. VAREJAO.
    5. Lin is starting to look better. He’s right in between starting point guard and 6th man. Like Jarrett Jack or Ramon Sessions.
    6. Bargnani has looked lazy this whole year. Shooting below 40%???
    7. Jrue is playing 5 more minutes a game this year, but has more than doubled his turnovers per game. 4.4 a game is scary.
    8. The interesting part about Mayo is that he’s learned how to contribute when he’s not scoring. 5 rebounds and 7 assists last night.
    9. I never realized how efficient Dragic is.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Jrue Holiday has about twice the amount of offensive responsibility. His usage % is up from 21% to 26%

  • Caboose

    26 isn’t double 21…haha yeah I get your point, but 4.4 is a LOT, for a 26% usage rate.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    i know it isn’t lol, and usage is only the plays that are “used” by that player, which is really the plays that end in a FGA or AST. He really has a ton more responsibility since Iguodala left.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Danny Ainge was drafted into MLB before coming to the NBA……

  • http://www.facebook.com/HolyBaller Dillan Leu

    That Danny Ainge video just made my WEEK. Holy crap, that was funny.

  • The Fury

    Don’t forget Parsons, dude has ton of skills. Excellent handles for his size, doesn’t force shots, patient, good passer, able defender, hops, shot fakes, etc.

  • http://www.facebook.com/HolyBaller Dillan Leu

    Also, what BEAUTIFUL help defense by Howard on that last drive by Hill. I mean I know he’s probably not wanting to give up the quick dish to Hibbert, but with 2 seconds on the clock I think you HAVE to step up quicker than that.

  • http://www.facebook.com/HolyBaller Dillan Leu

    I think Bargnani has looked lazy his whole career……lol.

  • http://twitter.com/niQknacks niQ

    Terrence Ross was the only bright spot on the Raptors last night! Ross Skywalker!

  • Drig’r

    The USA part is one thing I didn’t know. In the Olympics, everybody showed up on both ends I don’t remember Kobe forcing the issue like he does with LAL at times during any game though. Kobe also mostly took quality shots and passed it whenever necessary. LAL isn’t the same as the Olympics though.

    Wait……..so Kobe’s shooting has historically kept the Lakers from being as great as they could be??? When exactly did Kobe turn into Derek Fisher? I mean, sans ’04 Finals, when exactly did Kobe’s shooting keep the Lakers from being as great as they could be at the end of the year????

  • Sérgio

    Man, the Lakers really need to improve their freethrow %. 23-43 is pathetic.

    Also, Gasol is looking horrible. Maybe his knees are worst than we thought.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    really just 04. i mean, unless you want to talk about 08 and how horrible he shot in the finals, specifically the 4 games they lost.

  • http://twitter.com/niQknacks niQ

    When was the last time someone had a triple double with Turnovers?

  • http://www.facebook.com/HolyBaller Dillan Leu

    I think it happened once or twice last year. I can’t cite specific instances, though. I do remember LeBron getting one of those back when he was with the Cavs in the playoffs, and I think he may have got one last year at some point but I can’t remember.

  • LakeShow

    Common Lakers, pull yourself together.
    Can’t wait any longer for Nashty…
    Hell, I’ll take the other Steve at this point.

  • Sérgio

    He and the whole team, against the best defense that I’ve seen.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    he does have the most turnovers in the league. 4 more than 2nd place…….Kobe Bryant.

  • LakeShow

    Don’t think I won’t catch you on this!

    ‘He is in a statistical tie for 2nd’

    Kyrie Irving

    and
    James Harden pace him with 4.1 also lol.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    no buddy, i said “most” as in total.

  • LakeShow

    Whatev.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    The whole team didn’t shoot bad. Pau and Lamar actually had very good FG%’s —– they just didn’t get many attempts. — admittedly, that defense was top 3 ever, if not the best ever. and the Lakers shooters were straight garbage

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    lol

  • Jdub15

    Dude mentioning Kobe had a great game carried the Lakers…12/28 fg and 10 to’s is not gonna carry the lakers anywhere except to a first round exit….and you obviously did not watch the Olympics, Kobe took a load of forced shots outside the flow of the offence. The guy is a great player but his ego far outweighs his desire to play the game in a way that benefits his team….Nash is nice but dont bank on him being the saviour

  • http://twitter.com/AjpDos Allen Powell

    Come on now. Maybe, MAYBE in recent years he’s had to shoot more. But back in the day, he was waving off SHAQ! That guy just loves to shoot.

  • http://twitter.com/AjpDos Allen Powell

    Exactly what I said with the added benefit of stats. Good job.

  • http://twitter.com/AjpDos Allen Powell

    I believe I told a certain person on here that it was unfair to judge West during his first year back from knee surgery. A certain, NBK.

  • Caboose

    Lol

  • Caboose

    Parsons is looking good, but a lot of his statistical improvement could be chalked up to the extra 10 minutes a game he is playing. I give him credit: he isn’t forcing anything or losing efficiency despite more offensive responsibility.

  • Caboose

    It’s a sad sad day when a team WANTS Steve Blake as their starter.

  • The Fury

    Basically because of that, he’s making up for the most of this oppurtunity. Which is the right thing to do.

  • The Fury

    The Jedi just got strucked out!! Lol….

  • Caboose

    You really think you can convince a Kobe fan that he shoots too much? They don’t like stats, so it’s impossible.

  • Caboose

    Agreed.

  • Caboose

    I wanna say Steph Curry had one….

  • christianbullen

    “Oh My Gooodness! RIGHT in the face!”

  • Drig’r

    He’s cost the team a few games here and there in the regular season but he’s never had a stretch where people looked and said ” This guy is killing the team with his shots and his refusal to pass to Shaq” aside from ’04.

  • Drig’r

    I don’t like stats?? Not at all true. I don’t like it when they aren’t presented in context. Like you did when discussing about Jordan being a MUCH better offensive player than Kobe which I rebuked.

  • Drig’r

    ………did you even watch the game????

    This is what I mean by me not preferring to depend solely on stats to analyze the game. In a vaccum, those stats would look bad. But within the context of the game, where LAL minus Kobe couldn’t hit a shot from the perimeter, missed more FTs than those made, didn’t try to create and had more difficulty in asserting dominance on the glass and in the paint than they should have, those stats were the ONLY saving grace for LAL aside from Dwight’s better defensive co-ordination.

  • Jdub15

    No I did not watch the game the same way that you obviously were not watching the olympics. Ok I understand you saying they could not hit a shot from the perimeter, not sure if that justifies him taking 28 shots?? I would have to go back to the stats to see who had second most attempts, but that irrelevant, you can talk all you want about game context but 10 to’s is the sign of either 1. a guy making awful decisions or 2. a guy forcing the issue way too much…which are really one and the same. Kobe was playing efficently to start the season and thats not why the lakers have been loosing….but him taking 28 shots and having 10 to’s is not gonna be why they are winning either….

  • Drig’r

    I didn’t bring up the Olympics part because the Olympics and the NBA season are entirely different beasts.

    Agreed that it won’t lead LAL to where they want to be but just for last night, he was the ONLY guy who was trying to create easy shots and he did force the issue not because of his ego but because the situation called for it.

    The bigs were abysmal from the field. The team shot 36%.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    he’s not playing better. he’s shooting more and playing more minutes. He is still nowhere close to a top 50 player.

    .

    He’s shooting worse too BTW.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    David West isn’t playing any better. He’s had 2 huge games…..against Toronto and Washington.
    .
    His shooting % is Down. His Offensive Rating is Down. He still is overrated.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    if only he were right…..

  • http://twitter.com/AjpDos Allen Powell

    Maybe not now, but back then he was. And, the question was whether the expiring deal he as afforded, which should free up $10 million in cap room for the Pacers next season, was a bad deal. Not whether he was a Top 50 player.

  • http://twitter.com/AjpDos Allen Powell

    Depends on how you define better. On pure skillset, no. On efficiency and effectiveness, then yes, Jordan was much better. Some of that had to do with the time he played in, some of it had to do with his style of play.

  • http://twitter.com/AjpDos Allen Powell

    I like how you threw in “aside from 2004.”

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    his deal is not a bad deal in the same way that Andrei Kirilenko wasn’t a bad deal. the benefits of his contract have nothing to do with him playing to the level of his paycheck. He’s not anywhere close to performing to that level, although he’s shown 4 flashes this season. Trying to say “i told nbk so” – because you were under the impression West was playing well had nothing to do with his contract and everything with you just trying to show that you were right.
    .
    and we have already had the conversation where i ceded that i understood the low risk of signing West to just 2 years, despite the higher than deserved annual salary.

  • http://twitter.com/AjpDos Allen Powell

    I didn’t remember you admitting that. Carry on then.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Oh alright my bad then, yeah we had a big ol discussion where you made a really good argument for why West was worth it irregardless of his actual on court play because of his short contract and locker room presence. Plus the incentive that he may perform at his former level. — along those lines if not including a few more reasons.

  • Drig’r

    Even the most staunch Kobe fan won’t defend Kobe regarding ’04 lol.

    The team lost due to Kobe’s trigger happy nature and Shaq’s lack of D and the rest of the team not stepping up in ’04.

  • Drig’r

    I said Kobe would be better than MJ in the context of the offense they ran and the defenses they faced.

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