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Sunday, December 16th, 2012 at 2:41 pm  |  94 responses

Brandon Jennings, Tyreke Evans Reportedly May Be Traded Before Deadline


The Bucks and the Kings decided not to offer Brandon Jennings and Tyreke Evans (respectively) contract extensions when they were eligible for ‘em last summer, and so it’s believed that both teams are going to weigh trade offers in the coming months, given the obvious risk that Jennings and Evans could leave this offseason and leave their respective squads with nada. More, via Ric Bucher: “Neither Tyreke Evans, nor Brandon Jennings, were given extensions this fall — so which one is more likely to be dealt before the February trade deadline or play somewhere else next season? Put your money on Jennings. Several teams are already quietly assessing him to decide what he should be worth to them and the Bucks are aware of that. The Kings, according to a source, are simply waiting for someone else to set the value of Evans in restricted free agency next summer. While no one can quite figure out how to best use Evans or what position he plays, he is a massive talent. The Kings know all that. They don’t want to see that talent harnessed elsewhere. They can’t afford to see that. Now, I have no one from the Bucks saying that they’re ready and willing to move Jennings, but a source indicated he’s more inclined to make his way elsewhere than Evans is.”

[H/T: PBT]

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  • cheema

    Evans needs to be trade. He is too talented for his talents to be wasted by a coach who does not know how to use him.

  • underdog

    After his incredible rookie campaign (20,5,5), I really thought Evans was going to be the next big thing. But his career is in a downward spiral ever since. Despite he’s extremely talented, I don’t really know under which circumstances could he make the next step, because he needs the ball in his hand. A lot.

  • Redd

    Evans won’t be worth much, and if a team does use a lot to get him that team is stupid. The guy is a less injury proned guard version if Oden to me. Jennings would get a decent return.

  • Junkie

    jennings will definitely be traded the guy hates the bucks

  • http://twitter.com/NYCKING BIG ED

    Evans is being wasted away in Sactown. That is a losing environment. Needs to go on a winning team.

    Brandon Jennings I like him but shows immaturity at times. I see him as a me guy and not about team.

  • Caboose

    Kings get: Paul Millsap, 2013 Jazz 2nd Round Pick
    Jazz get: Tyreke Evans, Trevor Ariza, 2013 Wizards 2nd Round Pick
    Wizards get: Jason Thompson, Travis Outlaw, Earl Watson
    —–
    Bucks get: Ryan Anderson, Brian Roberts
    Mavericks get: Greivis Vasquez, Drew Gooden
    Hornets get: Brandon Jennings, Shawn Marion
    —–
    Kings get: Tayshaun Prince, 2014 Pistons 1st Round Pick
    Magic get: Tyreke Evans, 2013 Pistons 2nd Round Pick, 2013 Kings 2nd Round Pick
    Pistons get: Arron Afflalo, 2014 Magic 1st Round Pick
    —–
    Lakers get: John Salmons, Drew Gooden, Tyreke Evans, 2014 Bucks 2nd Round Pick
    Kings get: Brandon Jennings, Pau Gasol, 2014 Lakers 1st Round Pick
    Bucks get: Thomas Robinson, Jimmer Fredette, Jodie Meeks, Earl Clark, 2013 Kings 1st Round Pick

  • Cro

    Evans is clearly a PG, the only season he played there was his rookie year and look at his numbers, move him back there start Thornton and the kings will become a much bigger offensive threat

  • Redd

    2nd one is the most realistic & even, although BJ & Marion? That’s still a bit uneven. Last 1 is SUPER uneven.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mike-Gilbert/100001749589586 Mike Gilbert

    I like the first one a lot. I think the Kings and Jazz both get better there….and the Wiz get to dump Ariza so it’s a win win win

  • Pdubwilliams15

    My mavs need to get Evans. He needs a change of scenery. Kaman, Collison, and Roddy for Evans. Gives Sac cap relief after the season. Theyre most likely gonna lose Evans anyway. Gives Mavs backcourt along with OJ of the future. Works out for both sides. Lets get it done please

  • Jason

    GTFOH wit those unrealistic azz deals!!! U must be a dam moron son

  • Caboose

    How insightful.

  • Jason

    Just tellin the truth… Those NBA 2K deals u talkin bout don’t work in real life son.. Get ur basketball IQ up

  • Caboose

    Wanna tell me why they don’t work? I just want to hear some actual acuity from someone who clearly has a mammoth basketball IQ. I’d really appreciate it.

  • coggie13

    if that draft pick is unprotected then it could be worth a lot.

  • zogs19994

    WHY WOULD YOU WASTE YOUR TIME AND WRITE THIS??

  • Redd

    It’s “about”, you moronic Rob Parker.

  • Redd

    And no don’t get excited, I’m fairly certain you’re white “Jason”.

  • Dymez

    I don’t see any one of these guys being traded, personally. Not saying that they don’t need to be, but I feel like the Bucks will want far too much for BJ, and I doubt the Kings even want to trade Evans to begin with.

    The Kings’ situation is so simple. Evans is a point guard. He just happens to be one that’s 6’6, 220, and can drop 30 in any given night. Get rid of all these little guards around him, except for Thomas, he’ll make a great change of pace back up. Pick up a 2-guard that takes pride in his defense and doesn’t care about his number of shots to play alongside Tyreke — someone like a Thabo Sefolosha or Dahntay Jones. Stop trying to make Jimmer Ferdette a point guard, he’s an off-guard. Let him run off screens and spread the floor, he’s not a playmaker in this league but he still has a jumpshot. And last, get rid of Keith Smart and get a fatherly figure style head coach (Where’s Larry Brown, in Dallas? Get him out if there!); someone who can talk to Demarcus Cousins and get his mind right. That’s what he needs, because that kid is a screw or 2 tightened away from being the best big man in this league.

  • Dymez

    You would be surprised to find out how many basketball fans actually believe those NBA2K13 trades would work in reality.

  • Caboose

    Cosign all of this

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mike-Gilbert/100001749589586 Mike Gilbert

    yes this is what the kings should do. and then there is what the kings will do

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mike-Gilbert/100001749589586 Mike Gilbert

    wat r u talking about he told u they r nba 2k deals you probly dont even lift

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mike-Gilbert/100001749589586 Mike Gilbert

    Lets pretend the salaries work….its not a horrible deal by any means…but I feel like the Kings could get just a little bit more…they already have like 4 small 1s that are average

  • Caboose

    Kept me entertained for 5 minutes?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mike-Gilbert/100001749589586 Mike Gilbert

    don’t listen to those bullies! I like hearing trade rumors even if they won’t happen :D

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mike-Gilbert/100001749589586 Mike Gilbert

    this is not sarcasm

  • Caboose

    They’ll draft some shoot-first guard, then try to start him at point guard, find it doesn’t work, then move him to small forward.

  • Caboose

    Haha it’s amusing, that’s all.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mark-Collins/688936221 Mark Collins

    There’s always one idiot who says *insert player in discussion* will be a great fit for the HEAT and how he and Lebron would really mesh together.. -_- Spare me

  • Hugo Silva

    He should be traded to the nuggets.
    Nuggets would get: Tyreke, Jimmer, J.Thompson, 2013 1st rnd unprotected draft pick.
    Kings get: Andre Igoudala, Kosta Koufos, Evan Fournier 2014 2nd rnd pick

  • Max

    Which is realistic with the Lakers.

  • Max

    I always enjoy these.

  • Caboose

    Much appreciated.

  • mhm

    We gotta get Caboose on as an ESPN Insider

  • mhm

    NBA 2K lol i play that game sir and it is quite realistic

  • mhm

    I know right I just bought NBA2K13 jus to have it and it is not half bad

  • AiRsMiTh

    Ronnie Brewer??

  • disqus_tbsVhoJNYV
  • esmooth

    i like the last one with the lakers the jazz needs to trade milsap or al jeff they could help contenders but they have to share it with kanter and favors a bunch of young boys and kings need to trade their crowded back court too. also bucks too their backcourt is too pack…. lakers should get thomas robinson to me and give bucks tyreke evans so him and ellis share the backcourt cause evans like to pass more now…lakers could use thomas robinson toughness and he and dwight can be the future in the backcourt

  • https://twitter.com/jasontichenor Mr. Wet

    the only one I question to be tough to happen is the last one. I feel like salaries wouldn’t work with the league requirements. But, i’m also way to lazy to look them up. Also, I like the last one the most. Mainly because it’s the biggest shake up.

  • Ugh

    That’s a recursive question, right?

  • Caboose

    I used trade machine for all of these; all the financials are solid.

  • Mike From Spain

    Iggy and Koufos? The Nugs are ripped off in this one , IMHO

  • Mike From Spain

    They say Tyreke has no range in his jumper. Jennings is a loose gunner. What teams could put up with these limitations?

  • mockingbird24

    Why would the Wizards want that??? Why would we keep Emeka and let Trevor go??? If we have to keep at least one of these bad deals we would keep Ariza and give up Okafor (but nobody wants that contract)!!!

  • https://twitter.com/jasontichenor Mr. Wet

    Well done, Forward them to their respective GM’s.

  • danpowers

    id love to see jennings being shipped to new orleans and evans on the hawks roster

  • danpowers

    in a perfect world that would happen… these kings could be so much fun to watch

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    you really believe Tyreke Evans is a PG. You live close enough to watch every Sacramento Kings game and you really believe that?

  • greg

    while i dont agree tyreke is a real pg. he could play with someone sharing a backcourt who can either shoot really well, or play defense, and have a high IQ to make the right passes. when they drafted jimmer i thought they would run something like the clippers offense where tyreke gets it in the middle of the floor pick and roll, and if that doesnt work, iso or post up cousins. If any fool decides to help off him an inch…. its Jimmer time. Thats the bests role for both of them to me

  • patrick

    i say lakers pick up evans,,,he can play back up s.g. to kobe

  • Caboose

    Yes. He looks uncomfortable at shooting guard. It encourages him to shoot when that’s not what he should be doing. He has great court vision, and good ball handling. Remember when the Griz tried playing Greivis at the 2? Doesn’t work. Put Reke at the 1, and he’ll just feel more comfortable on the court.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Tyreke Evans is a black hole though. He may have good vision, but that doesn’t mean he uses it. And he has no left hand. As soon as the league found that out (thanks Shane Battier) he was basically forced into an off-the-ball role.

    He hasn’t statistically played best at PG at any point in his career. honestly, the best thing he has done as a PG is play defense.

    He either needs to become much much less selfish or he needs to learn how to shoot.

    And statistically speaking, he is literally the same exact player he was his rookie year, except he’s playing off the ball, so he isn’t shooting as much.

  • Caboose

    If you’ve watched him lately, his left has improved a lot. Not up to PG standards, but it’s not a weakness. I’d argue that the selfishness and black holeness is due to horrid coaching. The Kings’ staff LOVES to play 2006 Hawks ball. When Isaiah Thomas and Aaron Brooks become black holes, you can kinda look at the coaches. Put Reke with an ex-PG coach who knows what he’s doing, and it’ll work.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    i honestly have watched him twice this whole season. so my knowledge is strictly based off of all previous seasons + a couple preseason games, and a few of their games at the beginning of the year, so i haven’t seen the improvement on his left hand. — he is actually finishing with it? i understand he can dribble with his left, but as far as i’ve seen, he can’t actually go that direction with that hand, and finish with it. he always comes back to his right. which is/was a huge huge huge problem.

    .

    but he is literally playing the same way he was as a rookie when he was playing PG. He is shooting the exact same amount of 3′s per second at a career high %, so his shot, although it may look uncomfortable, is actually as good as it’s ever been. And after watching him closely throughout the first few years of his career, i am pretty much set in my belief that he needs to be playing SF the majority of his minutes, so i will need to see some actual proof that he is better suited at the point.

  • Caboose

    Granted, small forward is MUCH better than shooting guard with Reke. I’ll give you that. Just bear in mind he’ll never get the chance to play point guard with the glut of shooters masquerading as a backcourt on the Kings. While I agree he’s playing the same style, it’s because that’s what he’s asked to do. I have no doubt that EVERY significant player on the Kings would play better on a different team and a different coaching style. Imagine Cousins playing next to Duncan and under Pop. Or Marcus Thornton playing the Jason Terry-role for the Wolves under Adelman. Or Tyreke playing point for the Jazz where he could run strong pick and rolls all day. What I’m trying to get at is, if Tyreke is asked to be a true point guard, he can. He always shows flashes, every game, but the Kings suffer from the 2005 76ers problem: only one ball per game.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    that’s like saying Dwyane Wade shows flashes of being a PG. He may have some skills that really make sense, but he just doesn’t seem to have the mental makeup to play the position. Could you imagine Tyreke matching up night in and night out against Chris Paul – Rajon Rondo – Kyrie Irving etc.? he would have to work himself into phenomenal shape, and totally change his mind set to become a real everyday PG.
    .
    i really think Wade is the example i would use to compare why Tyreke wouldn’t make a successful transition to full-time PG responsibilities which i why i brought him up.

  • Caboose

    All good points, it’s not to say he COULDN’T become a point guard, but you may be right, he may not be equipped to play now.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    i mean, if he can make the switch mentally, you are right, skill/strength wise, PG is the position he would be most effective in. I, as you know, have just never been one to put faith in a guy becoming a different “mental player” if that makes sense

  • Caboose

    I agree with that, but I think the mental aspect has been poisoned by coaching. I believe under a good coach, he could turn around his game. But, it is also possible it is his mindset. Either way, it won’t happen with the Kings.

  • Shawn

    Look at D Rose and Westbrook. Tyreke plays a similar style as them a slashing PG. So why do people constantly say “Tyreke is not a PG” when you see D Rose and Westbrook chucking up 20 shots a game and still called a PG?

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Because they are good at it.

    Sincerely,
    Sincere

  • Shawn

    WTF?? Yea im pretty sure were going to trade Evans and Thompson, 2 of our best players, for Millsap and a 2nd pick ._____. And you think were going to trade Evans who is loads of talent and is only 23 for Prince who is way past his prime and is 33 years old????? You gotta be joking right?

  • Shawn

    No bro we dont want your sh**. We already have cap space and most of those players are like in their 30s. Since so many people are making unrealistic trades how about you guys trade Dirk, Marion, OJ Mayo, 1st round picks and cash for evans.

  • Shawn

    Ight bro just trade Kobe and Dwight for Evans

  • Caboose

    1. Millsap is a better player than Tyreke. And far better than Thompson.
    2. That Prince trade includes a 1st Round Pick from the flailing Pistons.
    Take a tip Sparky, read through everything before commenting. It makes you look less ignorant.

  • Shawn

    Same with Tyreke and Wade both would be good at PG…….i honestly think the NBA has more to do with big and small markets. imagine if Rose was in Toronto, he would be criticized the exact same way tyreke is now.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    That’s not true. Evans is not playing at a high level. If he was, he wouldn’t get criticized. It’s. That. Simple.
    Sincerely,
    Sincere

  • Shawn

    DO YOU HONESTLY THINK WE WANT MORE PICKS??????
    We get screwed in the draft almost every time and not only that we dont even want to be in the lottery. Now tell me this would it not be wiser to build on Evans who is clearly our best player than to trade him for more picks and literally waste 2-3 years on rebuilding?? I mean you dont trade players you drafted and then trade them for more draft picks.

    And saying millsap is better than reke shows you are clearly biased towards the jazz and that trade wouldnt make any sense at all anyway. We already have cousins and we drafted T-Rob and adding him would kill PT for our rookie.

  • Caboose

    1. You wanna build around Tyreke? Good strategy there; that 15-5-3 sure is a franchise cornerstone.
    2. Millsap is absolutely better than Tyreke. Over the past 3 years, more win shares, higher PER, better offensive rating, better defensive rating, higher FG%, more steals, more blocks, less turnovers, more rebounds. Know what Reke does better? Points per game. And that’s it.

    3. If T-Rob isn’t getting minutes over Jason Thompson (who would start on literally, no other team), I don’t think we should be concerned about his PT.

  • Caboose

    Cause NO ONE would take Okafor’s contract?

  • Caboose

    Why would the Nuggets want Tyreke, who fulfills the same role as Iguodala, but does everything slightly worse?

  • Caboose

    Haha why? I can’t stand ESPN :P

  • mhm

    lol

  • Caboose

    Not sure if compliment or insult….

  • Shawn

    Do you even watch the kings? Tyreke is a way better defender and he had a string of games where he was getting 20 pts 7 rebs and 4 ast before his injury this year

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    As much as I can I watch the Kings.
    .
    This year is about 30 games old. A string of games at the beginning of this 30 game old season means he should be absolved of the last 2 full seasons? .
    Whatever you say puddin. Tyreke is the best PG on earth. He’s like a tiger in a cage. Because you know, the best players are, on average, just decent, and statistically worse at their should be full time position. That makes total sense.

  • Shawn

    Dude
    what are you talking about? Your basically judging these players solely
    on statistics. Have you even seen a Kings game? If you have than you
    would know how much tyreke means to us. And so what if Millsap is better
    than Reke, I can stand for all the Kings fans out here that we DONT
    want Millsap when we already have quality big man. Plus i dont really
    see him as a long term option for us at all.

    Look im done debating about this if you say the same crap over again.
    The fact that WE as KINGS FANS dont want a player such as Millsap is
    all you need to know why this trade wouldnt work. Matter of fact WTF are
    you arguing about anyway??? why the heck do you want tyreke to go to
    the Jazz and Millsap to come to sacTown anyway? ill be surprised if you
    even have anything to say unless you say the same crap like you did
    before

  • mhm

    It’s a compliment duhh

  • Shawn

    Bro im not tying to hurt your feelings or anything dont get all butt hurt….and i never said Tyreke was the BEST PG, although i wished he was, all i was saying was that it was unfair to call D Rose and westbrook PG and not Reke, you just twisted my words and through it right back at me.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    It is fair. They are real PG’s. Tyreke Evans isn’t. There is no LOGICAL reason to feel otherwise. All, real, tangible evidence supports that. ALL OF IT. You aren’t hurting my feelings. Your annoying my illogical need for others to be logical. Which in itself annoys me. I’m thoroughly annoyed with you, and myself.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    yeah that’s fair. i thought if he did figure it out, he’d do it under Westphal, but Demarcus Cousins f*cked that up.

  • Shawn

    Dude what are you talking about????? What in the world do you not understand that BOTH westbrook and rose play the EXACT same way as REKE. Both are score first, pass second players. Both penetrate the ball and kick it back out. Both chuck up 20 shots a game. Reke does those exact same things but NO one ever says Rose or Westbrook are not PG. and what evidence is there?? the only illogical thing here is you because you dont seem to comprehend what im trying to say.

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    That’s false. I am not wasting my time talking to someone who relies on their ideas rather than making sure their argument doesn’t sound like its coming from an ill informed kings fan. .
    Do some research and come back with actual, factual information. You obviously don’t know what you are talking about. .
    Bye

  • Shawn

    WTF???? “I am not wasting my time talking to someone who relies on their ideas rather than making sure their argument doesn’t sound like its coming from an ill informed kings fan”

    Ok uhmm coming from a guy who said:

    “Because they are good at it.

    Sincerely,
    Sincere”

    yea that sounds logical and factual to me buddy :)

    ohh and “It is fair. They are real PG’s. Tyreke Evans isn’t. There is no
    LOGICAL reason to feel otherwise. All, real, tangible evidence supports
    that. ALL OF IT.” uhmm still waiting on that evidence :)

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    i shouldn’t have to provide you proof for something that is obvious.

    .

    Read my first response to Caboose,

    “Tyreke Evans is a black hole though. He may have good vision, but that doesn’t mean he uses it. And he has no left hand. As soon as the league found that out (thanks Shane Battier) he was basically forced into an off-the-ball role.

    He hasn’t statistically played best at PG at any point in his career. honestly, the best thing he has done as a PG is play defense.

    He either needs to become much much less selfish or he needs to learn how to shoot.

    And statistically speaking, he is literally the same exact player he was his rookie year, except he’s playing off the ball, so he isn’t shooting as much”

    .

    Now when it comes to Russell Westbrook/Derrick Rose compared to Tyreke i will make this VERY simple,

    - http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=1&p1=evansty01&y1=2013&p2=rosede01&y2=2012&p3=westbru01&y3=2013

    .- http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&p1=evansty01&y1=2010&p2=rosede01&y2=2011&p3=westbru01&y3=2013

    .

    the first link is their career numbers, which show a clear advantage in just about everything for Westbrook and Rose.

    .

    the second link is their best individual seasons, which make the difference between them, specifically as playmakers, very very obvious. (look at Assists per 36 minutes – Assist % – Offensive Rating.)

    .
    if you still want to argue with me after seeing obvious facts, then it is because, as i said, you are an ill informed Kings fan.

  • Shawn

    your still not getting it, tyreke is playing with no talent on his team except for a bunch of undersized midget chuckers. Rose and Westbrook however have many weapons on their squad. Ok now we could all agree that tyreke, rose and westbrook are “unique” PG, but would all be SG in the likes of players like Rondo, Nash, CP3, D-Will, etc.

    statistics dont really tell the whole truth, like i said if you were on a team where your PG is taking 25 shots a game

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    Blah blah blah I like to ignore facts even though I just asked for the and now am making a new excuse. He’s not a PG. you aren’t changing reality with excuses. Bye
    Sincerely,
    Sincere

  • Shawn

    i cant get to you kid sorry but you should actually watch basketball instead of looking at statistics and think you know what your talking about. I tried, I really did but your arrogance is just too much. Tyreke is a PG so is Rose and Westbrook but all three are not legit PG.

    P.S. Tyreke is a PG

  • http://twitter.com/sooperfadeaway nbk

    it’s pretty clear that i watch a ton more basketball then you do. you watch the Kings. And have probably been a Kings fan your whole life. It’s not surprising you can’t see what everyone else does.
    .
    infact, Tyreke hasn’t played PG since his rookie year, you’d think you’d be able to catch onto what the professional basketball minds in your own city have already noticed. you’d think.

  • Shawn

    Ok my other post was going to be my last but when you said reke hasnt played PG since his rookie season that just proves my point you look at the stats and not the actual games. Had you watched any of the Kings games last year or any NBA game for that matter, you would know reke played PG for half the season with the line up of

    PG-Tyreke
    SG-Thorton
    SF-Salmons
    PF-Thompson
    C-Cousins

    Yet again you seem to make yourself look more foolish.

    P.S. Tyreke is a PG
    P.S.S. Go watch basketball games kid :)

  • Hugo Silva

    Why? becuase tyreke is waay cheaper and still has lots of potential. He could maybe be better than iguodala one day. Plus iggy is almost 30yrs old and makes nearly 15 million per.

  • Kid

    Dude, i agree with you. The only problem with the Kings is their coach. I watched almost all of the Kings games this season. The rotation sucks like hell. He ends up putting his bench players in the 4th q. The reason why they perform well when they play is that they don’t get to play a lot. The game yesterday against portland, IT, Jimmer, Garcia, Trob and Hayes finished the 4th q of the game cause they played good. Why not letting them play a lot in the 2nd and 3rd q? Keith Smart is a Cancer to the team. And brooks isn’t consistent. I hope they don’t trade tyreke away. He should start as point guard, not shooting guard or forward. Jimmer would be good at the 2. And IT and Marcus would be good back ups.

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